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Title: Carly Fiorina: No Path to Citizenship for those Who Came to U.S. Illegally
Source: Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a ... hose-who-came-to-u-s-illegally
Published: May 4, 2015
Author: David Knowles
Post Date: 2015-05-05 18:48:02 by Southern Style
Keywords: None
Views: 124
Comments: 9

Carly Fiorina: No Path to Citizenship for those Who Came to U.S. Illegally

The former HP executive draws a line in the sand on immigration.

by David Knowles

If Carly Fiorina becomes president, the immigrants currently in the country illegally would face an additional hurdle in their quest for U.S. citizenship.

During a wide-ranging interview with Yahoo's Katie Couric, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO was asked if she favored providing a path to citizenship for the roughly 11 million immigrants in the country illegally.

"I do not. Not for those who came here illegally and who have stayed here illegally," said Fiorina, who announced her candidacy for the Republican nomination earlier in the day.

Unlike former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, and Florida Senator Marco Rubio, all of whom have expressed some degree of openness to creating a framework that would allow undocumented immigrants to eventually obtain citizenship, Fiorina said she would draw the line at offering "legal status."

"Half the people here illegally came on a legal visa–we just never bothered to follow up," Fiorina said. "But for those who came here illegally and stayed here illegally, I think they may earn legal status over time, but not citizenship, because I know too many people, as do you, who worked to earn the right of citizenship, the privilege of citizenship, and I think we're fair-minded people."

Like most candidates in the growing GOP presidential field, Fiorina also emphasized the need to secure the U.S. borders with Mexico and Canada.

"It's not rocket science to do it, we just haven't done it, northern borders and southern borders," Fiorina said. "I think we need to fix the legal immigration system, which has been broken for decades, under both Republicans and Democrats. You know we talk about it but somehow it never gets done."

Asked about support for the Dream Act, which would establish permanent U.S. residency for the children of immigrants brought to the country by their parents under the age of 16, Fiorina again emphasized that border security should take priority.

"In California, I supported the Dream Act because I think that you cannot punish children who came here through no will of there own as young children, but I also think we have the cart backwards, when we pass something called the Dream Act before we've even secured the border all we're doing is making the problem worse," Fiorina said. "And also, we corrode peoples' faith in government. Folks out there say, you know what, the federal government's first job, honestly, is to protect the nation and secure the border, why don't you secure the border, you could, we should, we haven't."

While neither Couric nor Fiornia discussed the costs of securing both the northern and southern borders, a 2013 report by Bloomberg found that maintaining border security with Mexico would cost $28 billion per year.


Poster Comment:

My advice to Carly: Don't look for support from the Republican Party, you'll find none there. Participate in their debates, get your views out as publicly as possible and at the final debate, publicly refute the Republican Party and announce you're running as an Independent.

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#1. To: Southern Style (#0)

Good advice: how is she on jizrael?

Thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   18:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

how is she on jizrael?

Went to her website (carlyfiorina.com), there was no mention of "our" democratic ally in the Mideast, no waving Israeli flags and no one sporting Star of David jewelry or lapel pins. (Which was pretty refreshing in itself)

Checked MSM sources; they covered her announcement but, more importantly, found a way to throw in some ugly stuff about her. I have to view this as a positive, in regards to your question.

If she'll stay away from wearing beanies and kissing walls, she may do alright.

That being said, an independent would have to get pretty damn close to 60% of the vote to overcome the rigged voting process in this country and, frankly, I don't see that happening.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-05-05   19:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Southern Style (#2)

That being said, an independent would have to get pretty damn close to 60% of the vote to overcome the rigged voting process in this country and, frankly, I don't see that happening.

Bottom-line truth. Sadly.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-05-05   20:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

Sadly.

Yeah, I really don't see much hope for this country. For a while, I held out hope for a military coup which would make mass arrests of the elites and restore the constitutional republic but, alas, at the top they are the elites.

To borrow a quote from Laurel and Hardy, "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."

I'm afraid I just don't see anyway we can get there from here and it's gonna be oh-so-ugly.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-05-05   21:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Southern Style (#0)

If Carly Fiorina becomes president, the immigrants currently in the country illegally would face an additional hurdle in their quest for U.S. citizenship.

LOL

Sure they will.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-05   21:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Katniss (#5)

That's a mighty big "If".

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-05-05   22:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Southern Style (#0)

There is very little out there about her except that she allegedly ran HP into the ground. That will be a very high hurdle to overcome.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2015-05-06   2:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Southern Style (#0)

She's just another neocon turd. No mention of Izrul usually means they're planning to spring it on us later.

"Those who came here illegally and stayed here illegally, I think they may earn legal status over time, but not citizenship, because I know too many people, as do you, who worked to earn the right of citizenship, the privilege of citizenship, and I think we're fair-minded people." Well, isn't she NIIIIIICE! Mebbe she's another "compassionate conservative like the Smirking Chimp -- walk softly but keep bombing those dirty Ayrabs.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-05-06   2:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Southern Style (#6)

That's a mighty big "If".

Agree, unless that "hurdle" is going down to Freddic Mac to collect a free home.

Otherwise, the odds are better of one of the two of us winning the Powerball.

Katniss  posted on  2015-05-06   12:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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