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Title: Officials say more biker gang members headed to Waco; 9 confirmed dead in Twin Peaks shooting
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Waco Tribune Herald
URL Source: http://www.wacotrib.com/news/police ... e5-505a-98b4-ecbef08a2a87.html
Published: May 17, 2015
Author: Olivia Messer
Post Date: 2015-05-17 18:54:04 by X-15
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Keywords: Bandidos, Cossacks
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UPDATE, 5:00 p.m.: Officials are hearing reports and seeing evidence of many biker gang members coming into town from throughout the state. In response, police are moving some witnesses to a secure location, said Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton. Multiple police sources confirmed that the Banditos and Cossacks biker gangs were involved in Sunday’s shooting. Swanton said police have also stepped up the law enforcement presence in the area, but won’t say what else officials are doing to prepare. At least 18 people are confirmed injured, in addition to the nine confirmed dead. Most of the injured have gunshot or stab wounds, and some have suffered both. Some of those injured have been transferred to other hospitals for their own safety, Swanton said. Swanton added officials are in the process of shutting down all of Central Texas Marketplace. “We don’t feel it is safe to keep these businesses open,” Swanton said. Three additional biker gang members were arrested with weapons and taken to the McLennan County Jail on charges of engaging in organized crime. The sergeant said police will charge suspects with the most severe charges possible. There are still a large number of people being detained, he noted. “This is not something we’re playing around with,” Swanton said. “This is a major crime scene. ... It is a pretty gruesome scene.” UPDATE, 4:00 p.m.: At least nine people are confirmed dead in a shooting around noon Sunday at Twin Peaks restaurant, said Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton. All of the fatalities are members of biker gangs. No patrons, servers or law enforcement officials were killed, Swanton said. There is a very significant increase in law enforcement in McLennan County right now, Swanton said. Local, county, state and federal agencies are involved in investigations into the biker gangs. DPS and intelligence agents were working on the investigation long before today and Waco police have been aware of the inquest for more than a month, said Swanton. Twin Peaks and Don Carlos were closed down after the shooting, and witnesses are being questioned on the scene and at the police department, according to the sergeant. “The management wanted them here,” Swanton said of Twin Peaks officials. “Management knew that there were issues, and we were here, but they continued to let those groups of people into their business.” Brad Doan, general manager of the Twin Peaks at Central Texas Marketplace, said the restaurant did not have an immediate statement in response to the shootings or Swanton’s claim that Twin Peaks was not cooperative with police until after Sunday’s shootings. Doan referred all questions to Twin Peaks’ corporate management. They were unable to be immediately reached Sunday afternoon. Numerous people have been detained, but it is not clear how many people have been taken into custody. “A lot of innocent people could have been injured today,” Swanton said. “These are very dangerous, hostile criminal biker gangs.” There were at least three rival gangs on the scene when the shooting occurred, Swanton said, though he did not immediately provide the names of the gangs. At least 12 Waco officers, including a SWAT team, and other DPS troopers were at Twin Peaks or in the immediate area when the incident broke out. Waco police officers moved in and did fire rounds during the incident, Swanton said, praising their quick response. “Their action has saved lives by keeping this from spilling into a busy Sunday morning,” he said. Eight people were confirmed dead on the scene and one other at the hospital, Swanton added. Helicopters continued to fly overhead about 4 p.m., and officials asked citizens not to come near the area. ORIGINAL STORY: Multiple people were killed or injured in a shooting that started just after noon Sunday inside Twin Peaks restaurant in Central Texas Marketplace and involved two biker gangs. Officials would not immediately release information about the number of people who were either killed or injured. Police also would not immediately say if any of the injured parties were restaurant servers or patrons but said no law-enforcement officials were injured, said Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton. The altercation began inside Twin Peaks and spilled into the parking lot, Swanton said. One witness described the dangerous, chaotic scene as something akin to a war zone. “There were maybe 30 guns being fired in the parking lot, maybe 100 rounds,” said Michelle Logan, 37, who was at Twin Peaks at the time of the shooting and said she knows some of the victims. “They just opened fire.” Logan said she saw several people injured by the shooting. “There’s a lot of people in the hospital, a lot of people shot,” she said, adding that people scattered after the shooting began. The incident did not appear to be random, Logan said. “It was a set up,” she said. The meeting between the two biker gangs was being monitored by police before the incident started, Swanton said, after officials became aware that the gangs were frequenting the establishment. Swanton said management at the restaurant was not cooperative with police until after the shooting Sunday. Officers quickly had bikers at gunpoint after the altercation moved into the parking lot. Suspects were being held at bay as far from the doors of Twin Peaks as the Interstate 35 access road. Officials called the scene “secure but active” as of about 2:30 p.m. Officers said there were multiple types of weapons used, including guns, chains, knives, bats and clubs. Officers from Lacy Lakeview, the McLennan County Sheriff’s Office and multiple other agencies were on scene, as well as ambulances from as far as Limestone County. Officials locked down Don Carlos restaurant, which is next door to Twin Peaks. It was not immediately known how many people were taken into custody. Victims were taken to both Baylor Scott & White Hillcrest Medical Center and Providence Health Center. I-35 traffic has been diverted from the area. Officials would not release more information about the circumstances of the incident, or if it was related to others throughout the city. Poster Comment: Helluva shootout....it was the Bandidos MC and the Cossacks MC.
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#51. To: Dakmar, Pridie Jones, Lod (#50)
Two outlaw bikers by themselves is my limit, any more and I walk away from the area. Your mileage my vary, it'll be less if you're on a leaking, wheezing Harley :)
-Alex Kurtagic
#52. To: X-15 (#51)
Don't get me started on the acoustic shortcomings of the V-Twin, I could go on for weeks.
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#53. To: X-15 (#46)
Funny, and true.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#54. To: Dakmar (#52)
That's the Sound of Freedumb!!!!! shortcomings of the V-Twin
-Alex Kurtagic
#55. To: Lod (#42)
Just for a little balance, my favorite tavern has a Motorcycle Club/MC right next door to it. Some sort of military veterans group. No problems at all. I was even invited to Sunday poker games - small stakes, and since they're some legitimate private club they serve adult beverages for a fair price. I enjoy poker but didn't feel right going to church and then going out to play cards and drink. A few stop in the tavern from time to time. I know them by sight and a few by name and exchange hellos. In the last year or two the other tavern across the highway went out of business. A different MC purchased it - maybe 2nd Brigade or something like that. They stay in their joint and we stay in ours and I've never heard of a single problem. They're adults 40-60 age group, not a gang by any stretch of the imagination.
#56. To: X-15 (#54)
Boooodn, Boooodn
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#57. To: Fred Mertz (#55)
Would you immediately loot your local convenience store if one of them were shot by a cop? Or would you wait to see what happened? These are the important social questions, as I see them.
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#58. To: Dakmar (#57)
No. I live in a rural area and the convenience stores are in gas stations. They seem to be about 4 or 5 miles apart from each other, now that I think about it. I know many of the workers and customers. I really don't get the purpose of your questions.
#59. To: Fred Mertz (#58)
I forgot to include background information. My questions were related to my thoughts at the time regarding Disgusting. Liberal Intellectuals Race-Bait over Waco Biker Gang Shootout. I really don't get the purpose of your questions.
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#60. To: All (#59)
Note to self, pump up the narrative
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#61. To: Dakmar, Lod, StraitGate, Pridie Nones, Fred Mertz (#60)
More bad blood between the Bandidos and Cossacks: Waco Shootout Linked to North Texas Attacks The shootout in Waco that killed nine motorcycle gang members had its origins in violence that erupted in the weeks before Christmas, with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County and a murder in Fort Worth, according to law enforcement sources. The backdrop is a growing turf battle between the Bandidos — which has controlled drug trafficking routes in Texas for years — and the Cossacks, a lesser-known biker gang that has been gaining power by aligning itself with Bandido rivals, the sources said. On Dec. 13, 10 Bandidos burst into Gator’s bar in Fort Worth and "without saying a word, started punching and attacking people," according to a police affidavit. They then opened fire, killing one motorcycle club member, Geoff Brady of Arlington, and injuring three others, police said. Three gang members were arrested on murder charges. They are out of jail on $100,000 bond each. Exactly one week earlier, on Dec. 6, other Bandidos members beat a rival biker at a Toys for Tots event in Decatur, police said. The victim declined to press charges and no arrests were made. Law enforcement sources say the two incidents and now the Waco shootout highlight a growing fight for control of those drug trafficking routes in Texas. Groups pay a "tax" to the Bandidos for permission to operate freely without trouble, experts say, but the Cossacks are refusing to pay the Bandidos and are aligning themselves with other biker gangs, including the Bandidos’ largest rival, the Hell’s Angels. "Like any criminal organization, it's about money, it's about control, it's about a lifestyle,” said former North Texas FBI agent Gil Torrez. "You know, be it La Cosa Nostra, or be it motorcycle gangs, if they are a criminal organization, sooner or later, they have to be dealt with." The Texas Department of Public Safety profiled the Bandidos in an unclassified Texas Gang Threat Assessment just last year. It identifies the Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang as a criminal enterprise, right behind the Bloods and the Crips street gangs. "Although these gangs vary in size and structure, they are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime across urban, suburban and rural areas of Texas," the report said. Following the Fort Worth murder, the Bandidos and Cossacks have been involved in at least a dozen violent attacks across North Texas involving hammers, chains and guns, experts said. In some cases, rival gang members have tried to literally run each other off highways. Now, with the high-profile shootout in Waco, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies are gearing up to crack down. "Law enforcement has got to be on high alert,” Torrez said. “I'm sure they're beating the bricks and doing what they can to develop human intelligence and try to defend against this." To prevent trouble, some North Texas bar owners are now posting signs which prohibit customers from entering with motorcycle club "cuts, colors or support T-shirts." Others have similar dress codes. "We don't allow any of the colors, the back patches, the knifes, the chains — anything like that," said Brandon Murdoch, with Chill Sports Bar & Grill in Grapevine. "We have plenty of people that ride motorcycles that come in here, we even have a designated motorcycle parking, but none of the '1 per-centers' as they like to call themselves." "If you bend for one or two, then five or six are going to show up, and it can be pretty intimidating for a bar owner," added Murdoch. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Waco-Shootout-Linked-to-North-Texas-Attacks- 304170711.html?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=4e68d4d72b94858507269414a81ea9b9
-Alex Kurtagic
#62. To: X-15 (#61)
Thanks for the ping and the news item.
#63. To: X-15 (#26)
Hey come on, man -- they've got PRINCIPLES. >;-) violence at the drop of a hat, over Cub Scout patches and other juvenile shit. If one punch is thrown their own club rules mandate that everybody else participate in the rodeo.
#64. To: NeoconsNailed (#63)
Ha!!!
-Alex Kurtagic
#65. To: X-15 (#61) (Edited)
The shootout in Waco that killed nine motorcycle gang members had its origins in violence that erupted in the weeks before Christmas, with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County and a murder in Fort Worth, according to law enforcement sources. The backdrop is a growing turf battle between the Bandidos — which has controlled drug trafficking routes in Texas for years — and the Cossacks, a lesser-known biker gang that has been gaining power by aligning itself with Bandido rivals, the sources said. On Dec. 13, 10 Bandidos burst into Gator’s bar in Fort Worth and "without saying a word, started punching and attacking people," according to a police affidavit. Following the Fort Worth murder, the Bandidos and Cossacks have been involved in at least a dozen violent attacks across North Texas involving hammers, chains and guns, experts said. In some cases, rival gang members have tried to literally run each other off highways. Now, with the high-profile shootout in Waco, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies are gearing up to crack down. Fort Worth - less than 100 miles from Waco (approx. 90 minutes): COPS - Community Oriented Policing Services ...Baltimore Moves [Obama] Closer to Federalization of Policing - independentsentinel.com April 28, 2015 Obama Federalizes Police Forces in Six US Cities - Tea Party News Network March 15, 2015 Last year, Rep. Elijah Cummings called for a police czar who would undoubtedly federalize policing.Waco Shootout Linked to North Texas Attacks
http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/
http://www.independentsentinel.com/obama-hints-that-police-are-to-blame-
baltimore-moves-him-closer-to-federalization-of-policing/ The Obama task force is called COPS, the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services. They have currently given grants to six states to cooperate in the federal government’s policing strategies. These strategies are intended to eventually reach all 18,000 police departments throughout the country.
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/03/15/
obama-federalizes-police-forces-in-six-us-cities/ The cities chosen for the COPS pilot program are Minneapolis, Fort Worth, Pittsburgh, Stockton, Birmingham and Gary, IN.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#66. To: GreyLmist, Bill D Berger, Lod, Dakmar, Darkwing, noone222, Pridie Nones, Turtle, Katniss, StraitGate, Jethro Tull, Fred Mertz, Obnoxicated, NeoconsNailed, christine (#65)
OK, here's the definitive last word on Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco: :) 
-Alex Kurtagic
#67. To: X-15 (#66)
Hah!! Funny! Satire, right?
#68. To: NeoconsNailed (#67)
"Would you like some 'Kossack Ketchup' with your Fire Fries?? On-the- house specialty, it's 'sourced' locally....."
-Alex Kurtagic
#69. To: X-15, Lod (#66) (Edited)
Re: "...shootout in Waco ... origins in violence that erupted in the weeks before Christmas, with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County" -- excerpts from the article at Post #61 and quoted at #65 Lod at Posts #50 and #51 of 4um Title: Waco Texas Biker Brawl and Shooting is a Hoax – Totally Ridiculous I didn't find anything like that -- just an Illuminati Game Card about Cycle Gangs that says: And this animated Toy Story movie clip of Buzz Lightyear saying: "I just want you to know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not an idea we promote on my planet." ... "But we're not ON my planet, ARE we?" OK, here's the definitive last word on Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco:
"If anyone has any live videos of this event, PLEASE post them here now, thank you." ... "I'm just trying to learn the truth of this bizarre event."
"Hordes of bikers are rampaging and looting, adding to the destruction..." Gives a +2 on any attempt to destroy another group, or a +4 to any Disaster you play (except in Space).
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#70. To: X-15 (#66)
LMAO
#71. To: GreyLmist (#65)
non sequitur.....dumbass
-Alex Kurtagic
#72. To: X-15, 4 (#68)
Nice. I checked out the menu at the location in south Austin and it seemed way over-priced just to be served by wannabe strippers. I'll pass. "Would you like some 'Kossack Ketchup' with your Fire Fries?? On-the- house specialty, it's 'sourced' locally....."
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#73. To: Lod (#72)
Witnesses Now Claim All 9 Killed In Biker Gang War Actually Died By Police Shooting Into Crowd Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, died of gunshot wounds of the head and trunk. Reporting now indicating that all deceased were killed by police gunfire. From the outset the police description of events at the Twin Peaks (Waco) Gang Shooting seemed oddly self-serving, super efficient/fast, and unusually specific for a mass casualty event outlined in under 3 hours. It was *as if* they wanted to get out ahead of something. One of the original claims, that was still maintained by officials last night, was the origin of the gang violence beginning in a restroom of the bar/grill and spilling outside. Additionally, the police originally stated that all gang member gunfire was inside the building, and all the deceased were shot inside the restaurant. However, a report outlining the 500 page construct of the police affidavit and arrest warrant(s) claims that all events happened outside in the parking lot: The affidavit goes on to say three or more members or associates of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club were in the parking lot of the restaurant when they confronted three or more members of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club when the Banditos arrived at the parking lot. After the two rival groups met in the parking lot a fight broke out, the affidavit says. “During the course of the altercation, members and associates of the Cossacks and Banditos brandished and used firearms, knives, or other unknown edged weapons, batons, clubs, brass knuckles and other weapons,:” the affidavit says. The affidavit says the gang members fired at each other and then when police tried to stop the fight, they began firing at officers. Waco police officers returned fire striking multiple gang members,” the affidavit says. Additionally the police went to great lengths to state the franchise owner/operator of the Twin Peaks restaurant would not cooperate with law enforcement and refused to cancel the event despite the demands of local law enforcement. However, that too is factually disputed by the owner/operator: […] Late Monday afternoon the restaurant’s operators issued another statement in which they said law enforcement officials did not ask the operator or the franchisor to cancel the patio reservation on Sunday. The event Sunday afternoon was not a Bike Night, the statement said, but instead the result of a “regular patio reservation made by a female customer who has been to the restaurant previously.” “Based on the information to date, we also believe that the violence began outside in the area of the parking lot, and not inside our restaurant or on our patio, as has been widely reported,” the statement said. […] “We are in the process of gathering additional facts, and urge that people avoid rushing to judgment before those facts are fully known,” the [franchise owner] statement said. (link) It would appear there are several contradictions with the initial -and ongoing- claims by Waco Police Spokesperson Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton. Including last night: […] Shots were fired inside the restaurant and bikers were shot, stabbed and beaten before the fight . . . Read more: theconservativetreehouse....19/report-of-waco-police- aff...
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, died of gunshot wounds to the neck.
Richard Vincent Kirshner, Jr., 47, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
Richard Matthew Jordan, III, 31, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, died of gunshot wounds to the head and trunk.
Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Matthew Mark Smith, 27, died of gunshot wounds to the trunk.
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
And Charles Wayne Russell, 46, died of gunshot wounds to the chest.
Reporting now indicating 27 people shot by police, 8 still in hospital.
Reporting lowers weapons confiscated to less than 50, mostly pocket knives, chains (attached to wallets?), nail clippers, one padlock and firearms (CCP fired or unfired?).
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#74. To: randge (#73)
Thanks much. This is looking worse and worse for the cops.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#75. To: randge, X-15, NeoconsNailed, StraitGate, Lod, Jethro Tull, Obnoxicated (#73)
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#76. To: Dakmar (#75)
Thanks ~ the story keeps changing constantly.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#77. To: X-15, Lod (#71)
I referenced your hospitable sort of posting for continuity of levity. Regrets if I crashed a private party by miscalculation. My post was mainly an abstractedly joking response to Lod's inquiry and observation of bizarreness from another thread on this issue. Wasn't looking for a Slapstick turf war and can't think of anything nice to say except I hope you liked that pie but, if you didn't -- that would be even better. non sequitur.....dumbass
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#78. To: GreyLmist (#77)
X prolly meant Don Bass, Ukraine.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#79. To: randge (#73)
“They just opened fire.” I can't find any coverage, pics or footage showing blood in the parking lot. Is this normal? “There were maybe 30 guns being fired in the parking lot, maybe 100 rounds,” said Michelle Logan, 37, who was at Twin Peaks at the time of the shooting and said she knows some of the victims.
#80. To: NeoconsNailed (#79)
They forgot the red dye... I can't find any coverage, pics or footage showing blood in the parking lot. Is this normal?
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#81. To: Lod (#78)
So, what you're saying is: I might've mistakenly misread the signals...again!? And, in other "festive" news... Nice try, Sport. :) X prolly meant Don Bass, Ukraine.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#82. To: titorite (#80)
Now, tito, you're not going along with the Zeitgeist here! I was mocked the other day for thinking conspiracy on this the other day..... hey, seen this? The restaurant doesn't look huge. Is it possible even 100 people were in there?
#83. To: X-15 (#66)
Thanks for the ping. I think that's called dark humor. LOL
#84. To: NeoconsNailed (#82)
no i hadnt but i did not see over a hundred people nor over hundred bikes. I figured it could be a jade helm thing. Idk. if i still lived in texas id be tempted to go there in person to investigate things first hand. but thats a pipe dream for me.
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#85. To: titorite (#84)
Maybe the remaining Branch Davidians would like to look into it for us :-)
#86. To: NeoconsNailed (#79)
Well, yes. MSM goes out of their way to not show blood, you know this. When was the last crime scene you saw on the evening news where the reporter swirled a finger in a puddle of blood and held it up to the camera? They put car chases on delay so as not to show blood if it ends in a gunfight. freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi? ArtNum=176926&Disp=All Post #23, leaking blood. That's probably all you'll get out of this story. I can't find any coverage, pics or footage showing blood in the parking lot. Is this normal?
-Alex Kurtagic
#87. To: randge, X-15 (#73)
Have club affiliations of the deceased been released? All 9 Killed In Biker Gang War Actually Died By Police Shooting Into Crowd
#88. To: Buzzard, Lod, christine (#87)
Yes, 1 Bandido and 8 Cossacks. As an aside, notice that all mention of the Texas Rangers involvement has been dropped. Company "F" is headquartered in Waco. The Texas Rangers have their museum in Waco. They're not glory-hounds, they mostly hand off credit for their work to everybody else and just keep on trucking.
-Alex Kurtagic
#89. To: X-15, Lod (#88)
I never thought Major League Baseball would stoop this low.
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#90. To: Dakmar (#89)
Dak put de "sequi" in de non sequitur.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
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