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Miscellaneous See other Miscellaneous Articles Title: Waco witness: ‘It was a setup from start to finish’ WACO — Richie was the first to die, then Diesel, then Dog. Whatever else they were in life, the men with the biker nicknames were Cossacks, loud and proud and riders in a Texas motorcycle gang. And that’s what got them killed, shot to death in a brawl with a rival gang in the parking lot of a Texas “breastaurant” that advertised hot waitresses and cold beer. “I saw the first three of our guys fall, and we started running,” said their brother-in-arms, another Cossack, who said he was there a week ago when the shooting started at the Twin Peaks restaurant. The Cossack, president of a North Texas chapter of the motorcycle gang, asked not to be identified because he is in hiding and said he fears for his life. He is a rare eyewitness speaking publicly about the Waco shootings, one of the worst eruptions of biker-gang violence in U.S. history. Since last week’s violence, Waco police have offered few conclusions in their investigation. But they have said that the violence was touched off when an uninvited group, presumed to be the Cossacks, showed up at a meeting of a larger confederation of motorcycle clubs dominated by the Bandidos. In several interviews in recent days, the Cossacks rider offered a different story. He said the Cossacks were invited to the Twin Peaks patio that day — by a Bandido leader, who offered to make peace in a long-running feud between the two gangs. That invitation was a setup for an ambush, though, according to the Cossack. That’s why the dead included six Cossacks, one Scimitar (an ally of the Cossacks) and only two Bandidos. The biker’s story could not be independently verified; most of those involved in the shootout are still in jail. But significant parts of his account square with police statements, as well as security camera videos obtained by The Associated Press. The biker culture has unwritten rules that everybody in its world knows and has predictable consequences for stepping out of line. So when a biker from the Bandidos, the oldest gang in Texas and one of the largest in the world, ran into a young Cossack in the Twin Peaks parking lot last Sunday, everyone knew what was coming. First words, then fists, then guns. Within seconds, Richie, Diesel and Dog were dead. “I took off,” the Cossacks rider said. “I got out of there. I didn’t have a weapon. I couldn’t fight anybody.” At odds for years It started with a phone call. About a week before the gunfight, according to the Cossack, a leader of the Bandidos, a man named Marshall from East Texas, contacted Owen Reeves, the “nomad,” or leader, of the Cossacks’ Central Texas region. The two gangs had been at odds for years. The Bandidos consider themselves the big dogs of the Texas biker world, and other gangs — or clubs, as they prefer to be called — generally don’t cross them. The Bandidos wear their claim to the Lone Star State on their backs. Their vests have “Bandidos” across the shoulders, just above their logo, a caricature based on Frito-Lay’s Frito Bandito. Below, the word “Texas” is stitched boldly in an inverted crescent. That crescent, the “Texas rocker,” has long belonged to the Bandidos, and they consider it a provocation if someone else wears it without permission, which is exactly what the Cossacks did. The Bandidos are second in numbers only to the Hells Angels and have as many as 2,500 members in 13 countries, according to the Justice Department, which considers the group a violent criminal enterprise engaged in running drugs and guns. The Cossacks, a smaller group, do not show up on law enforcement lists of criminal gangs, but the group has been growing more aggressive in recent years. Officials have warned of the potential for violence between the two gangs. “We don’t claim any territory, but the reason that the Bandidos have such an issue with us is that we wear the Texas rocker on our back, but we don’t pay them $100 a month per chapter to do it,” the Cossack said. On May 1, the Texas Department of Public Safety issued a bulletin to law enforcement agencies across the state warning about the Bandidos having “discussed the possibility of going to war” with the Cossacks, largely over the issue of the Texas rocker. The bulletin noted that on March 22, several Cossacks attacked a Bandido with chains, batons and metal pipes. On the same day, Bandidos attacked a Cossack with a hammer and demanded that he remove the Texas rocker from his vest. After all that, the phone call from Marshall was a welcome olive branch, the Cossack said. Marshall invited the Cossacks to Twin Peaks last week when the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents was scheduled to hold a major meeting. Those meetings are generally about bikers’ rights, safety and other administrative issues. The Bandidos dominate that organization; the Cossacks are not members. Marshall said that the Bandidos “wanted to get this cleared up,” according to the Cossack, who was relating what he said Reeves told him. “He said, ‘Bring your brothers, hang out, and let’s get this fixed and we can all leave in peace and be happy.’ He was talking to our chapter in Waco. ... The leader of our Central Texas chapter said, ‘OK, I’m going to make this happen.’ ” Reeves, who was jailed after the melee, could not be reached for comment. No members of the Bandidos could be reached for comment. On the patio Last week, about 70 Cossacks on Harley-Davidsons thundered down Interstate 35 through Waco and rolled into the parking lot of the Twin Peaks. The Cossack said he and the others congregated on the outdoor patio and started ordering food and drinks. They chatted with other bikers from smaller mom-and-pop bike clubs ahead of the 1 p.m. confederation meeting. Guns and other weapons are a common part of biker culture, and the Cossack acknowledged that members of his gang were armed. “But not all of us,” he said. “We had no reason to believe that this was going to go that way.” The parley with the Bandidos had been set for 11 a.m., the Cossack said, but the Bandidos didn’t arrive until about 12:15, when about 100 of them pulled up in a long, loud line of Harleys. Trouble started almost immediately, he said: One of the Bandidos, wearing a patch that identified him as a chapter president, ran his bike into a Cossack standing in the parking lot. The Cossack who was hit was a prospect, a man seeking to become a full member of the club. “They came up really fast, and the prospect turned and faced the bikes,” the Cossack chapter president said. “He fell backward into other parked bikes. The guy who hit him stopped and got off of his bike and said, ‘What are you doing? Get ... out of my way. We’re trying to park.’” Cossacks quickly jumped to the prospect’s defense, he said: “Guys were saying, ‘You’re disrespecting us,’ or, ‘We’re not backing down.’ ” In a blink, it started, he said: “Two punches: One from them, one from us.” A Bandido with a patch identifying him as sergeant-at-arms of the same chapter threw a punch at Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, known as “Richie,” who was from Pasadena. Jordan punched back. “At that point in time, the sergeant-at-arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said. Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head. “Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said. “There were maybe 60 or 70 of us in the parking lot. ... We took off running. We scattered. Three of our guys went down instantly. They caught a couple more that tripped and fell, and Bandidos were shooting at them.” He said that the second man to die was Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, a Cossack known as “Diesel.” Police said that the Waco man died from gunshot wounds to the head. The third man down was “Dog,” Charles Wayne Russell, 46, of Winona. Russell’s cause of death was listed as a gunshot wound to the chest. The Cossack said that he believes the Bandidos had no intention of making peace that day. “It was a setup from start to finish,” he said. A parking issue The Cossack’s story has been impossible to verify, but it is largely consistent with what police have said about how the brawl began. Waco police spokesman Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said the shooting started in the parking lot with a confrontation over what he called a parking issue. A leader of the Bandidos, who goes by “Gimmi Jimmy,” told The New York Times that there had been no incident in the parking lot but that he had heard there was a fight in the restaurant bathroom. He did not respond to numerous emails. The Cossack’s account is also consistent with a Twin Peaks security video. The Associated Press reported that the video shows the shooting started in the parking lot at 12:24 p.m., and that panicked bikers started running into the restaurant to flee. The AP reported that the video shows one shot being fired, but it did not say who fired the shot. After the bloodshed, Texas authorities warned of the threat of further violence, saying that the Bandidos had called for reinforcements from outside the state. “History has a way of repeating itself,” Swanton said. “Violence amongst these groups leads to more violence amongst these groups.” The Cossack said he, too, believes more violence is brewing. He said he received a call late Thursday from a friend in Bandidos leadership, who warned him to get out of his house and spread the word that the Bandidos were “coming hard” after Cossacks. He said he was told “they’re going to hit houses. They’re going to hit funerals. And if another Cossack or a cop gets in the way, so be it.” Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 34.
#25. To: X-15, jethro tull (#0)
for what its worth, I spent several days in Waco last week, and there is no inkling of problems, bikers, murders or murderers, killer cops, crisis actors, false flags , fema camps, boogiemen, or any of it. its just like any other city anywhere, people going about there business as usual. I sometimes think that conspiracy types (of which I am one) become WAY too immersed and concerned about what amounts to a bunch of completely irrelevant b.s.
A false flag requires flawless
execution by 100s of people in live time + the ability to keep these actors,
parents, cops, judges, DAs, etc. silenced, not only immediately after the event,
but for years thereafter. This latter point is overlooked by most false
flaggers. Time isn’t the friend of silence. To think that not one person has
broken ranks and come forward with details of a false flag is to ignore human
nature and the lure of fame & fortune. Given this, and the knowledge that
government can’t find it’s ass with both hands, the statical odds of success
veers off into the land of the absurd. It could even be argued that the
bickering over false flags are a false flags themselves. FFs are the shinny
glitter that InterWeb hacks throw up in the air to distract us from reality. While
some of us still discuss the validity of the 1969 moon landing, our Southern
border has collapsed, the national debt is exploding and what remains of the
middle class is being hammered with high taxes, diversity and a bevy of other
distasteful progressive social programs. Today, on the front page of Drudge,
there are 2 articles from reputable economic sources. They both talk about the
pending economic collapse. This is reality and this is where I am concentrating
my time & energy.
I would love to believe as you do on this, but like I said before, the spineless sheeple literally worship the government, which has an infinite budget and infinite bullets and is known to work by threat, intimidation and murder. 9/11 is clearly a massive theatrical production whose cast is known to be keeping totally mum even as the public builds a master's degree in why it's a fraud. As you see, it doesn't require flawless execution -- despite the obviously lousy job Mossad et al did, Amurrica still believes it and lives by it! Some of the alleged hijackers are known to still be living (or were after the big day), but they're never heard from -- certainly the media aren't going to ring them up to help expose the colossal fraud they've unanimously presented and maintained all these years. The media, the propaganda arm of government, are virtually as powerful as anything going on within the beltway. People believe what the media present more than God -- media are their other god. Human nature? This IS human nature, chile! I've already theorized that the astronauts were threatened into going along with the moon fraud and there's no other explanation in sight for their freakish behavior in that press conference. With victory as well as tragedy, you've got a public desperate for unity of emotion. OH, blubber blubber, 9/11 really happened because our daughter defending us from those MOOZLUMS that did it and keep flitting from one country Israel hates to another, escaping capture for 13 years now, the varmints! OH, ain't it great to be an Amurrican, we got to the moon first and everybody in the whole world knows we did -- we're the biggest and baddest and bestest country on effing EARTH. USA! USA! USA!!!!! One of the few actually great things about what's left of amerika is our freedom to discuss what the system's doing to us all we want in places like this -- and since the moon walk is one of the prime false flags (literally this time) on which Washington's legitimacy hangs, I'm delighted people are willing to get into it. We think it matters, you don't, that's life. Say, by your logic your stab at throwing us the trail could be a false flag. Who you with, huh -- the ILLUMINATI? (Little joke there.) Further insights into Waco II -- http://www.castefootball.us/forums/showthread.php/17307-Guns-of-Anarchy? highlight=bandidos
I push 9/11 off to the side for many
reasons, but chief among them is that as a false flag it was, and is, an abject
failure. Contemporaneous accounts from survivors & first responders called the
official account BS from the get go. More than 50? Israelis were arrested (only
to be released & deported), 100s of highly educated engineers formed together to
debunk the collapse story & Larry Silverstein 's pulling of Bld 7 is
immortalized forever on YouTube. My favorite witness to the crime is William
Rodriquez who saved countless ppl that day. His testimony is riveting and it
comes from a man with no dog in the fight. The last nationwide poll regarding
9/11 showed more Americans believing that it was an inside job than those who
didn't. There are countless other nuggets of 9/11 truth we can discuss, but at
least some of the inconvenient truths that have emerged post 9/11 are what I'd
expect to see with the other FFs put forward.
Right. Some polls show most amerikans see the 9/11 fraud. Parenthetically, however, we're as stuck with it as we are with the also charlatanical Martin Lucifer King cult. All newscasters and politicians still mouth fervent belief in these and 9/11's 100-year extension, the "war" on "terror," and the sheeple keep consuming it -- partly by remaining passionately devoted to the mindless non-9/11 programming that pays the media gods' bills. The world mourned the passing of Seinfeld as of an only son, but I'm proud to say I barely knew who he was. "There are countless other nuggets of 9/11 truth we can discuss, but at least some of the inconvenient truths that have emerged post 9/11 are what I'd expect to see with the other FFs put forward" -- start talking! In a relevant thread, natcherly.
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