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Title: McDonald's response to the $15 dollar an hour minimum wage
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Published: May 28, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-05-28 09:46:33 by Jethro Tull
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I have asked this question many times from those that decry unions, minimum wages etc etc... If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????
Some of each, imo.
If the law does not allow lesser wages and does not prohibit greater wages, one has to wonder why 99 per cent of employers have no employees warranting more than minimum wage.
Some jobs are just meant to be entry level minimum wage jobs. In other cases, employees that have worked years to rise slowly and slightly above minimum wage are being reset back to minimum wage, or very close to it, every time that minimum wage is raised and they don't get a comparable cost of living increase in their wages too. No matter how much minimum wage is raised, it is still just minimum wage. Businesses can simply increase their prices by the percentage of increase, regardless if they have just one or very few minimum wage workers, and they profit much from the rest of their staff's earnings staying the same (thereby losing more and more of their percentage margin above minimum wage each time). Businesses make a big show of grumbling about it but they are actually being enriched each time by that raise robbery sleight-of-hand scam and its resultant virtual rollback of their longterm/above minimum wage workfore closer towards entry level payment where they started.
HISTORY.... Henry Ford broke ranks with the capitalist barons by paying his workers five dollars a day. The business world was outraged. Ford was making millions, then he turned greedy, he "needed" to make more millions, but how? Ford invented the assembly line system. He had a bright idea, he could make more millions by speeding up the assembly line, paying the "laborers" the same pay to turn out more cars. Brilliant idea, make labor sweat, Ford has more millions to count. When the dastardly laborers had the audacity to go on strike, Ford and the police shot and killed a few of them, how dare they strike. No one went to jail, good men were dead and labor had learned their place at the bottom of the ladder.
Henry Ford broke ranks with the capitalist barons by paying his workers five dollars a day. The business world was outraged. Ford was making millions, then he turned greedy, he "needed" to make more millions, but how? Ford invented the assembly line system. He had a bright idea, he could make more millions by speeding up the assembly line, paying the "laborers" the same pay to turn out more cars. Brilliant idea, make labor sweat, Ford has more millions to count. When the dastardly laborers had the audacity to go on strike, Ford and the police shot and killed a few of them, how dare they strike. No one went to jail, good men were dead and labor had learned their place at the bottom of the ladder. I'd have to check but that strike might be what sent Ford to Russia, where he likely made additional millions from his factory set ups there instead roundabout here. Do people really need a union to go on strike? I don't think so. The coal miners, for example, should have asserted that the resources being extracted were their State's property and theirs too as citizens of it, imo, and if the proprietors didn't see it that way, they could try to go elsewhere and the workers would continue working for their economy. The unions did nothing to facilitate any bargainings like that to benefit laborers.
I have a head full of useless information. Ford and Stalin were olde buddies in the early 1930s. Of course Ford made millions off Stalin but Stalin got auto and truck factories with which to build tanks etc etc for WWII. The workers were shot in late 1930s, I cannot recall what year. If you ask why Stalin wanted armaments in 1930s, I will send along. Remember in early 1930s, Germany was training their army and air force in Russia, by and for Stalin.
Ford and Stalin were olde buddies in the early 1930s. Of course Ford made millions off Stalin but Stalin got auto and truck factories with which to build tanks etc etc for WWII. The workers were shot in late 1930s, I cannot recall what year. If you ask why Stalin wanted armaments in 1930s, I will send along. Remember in early 1930s, Germany was training their army and air force in Russia, by and for Stalin. Could you post that armament and training info for us? I suspect Ford may have been a camouflaged Communist and appreciate your insights on the past.
Holy shit!! Ford hated communism with a passion because they tend to nationalize factories. Get that ugly thought out of your head.
Holy shit!! Ford hated communism with a passion because they tend to nationalize factories. Get that ugly thought out of your head. Ford would and did business with the Devil if he made a buck. Hitler and Stalin both paid.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp...aily/nov98/ nazicars30.htm By Michael Dobbs Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, November 30, 1998; Page A01 When American GIs invaded Europe in June 1944, they did so in jeeps, trucks and tanks manufactured by the Big Three motor companies in one of the largest crash militarization programs ever undertaken. It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel -- a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary -- and flying Opel-built warplanes. (Chrysler's role in the German rearmament effort was much less significant.) When the U.S. Army liberated the Ford plants in Cologne and Berlin, they found destitute foreign workers confined behind barbed wire and company documents extolling the "genius of the Fuehrer," according to reports filed by soldiers at the scene. A U.S. Army report by investigator Henry Schneider dated Sept. 5, 1945, accused the German branch of Ford of serving as "an arsenal of Nazism, at least for military vehicles" with the "consent" of the parent company in Dearborn. The relationship of Ford and GM to the Nazi regime goes back to the 1920s and 1930s, when the American car companies competed against each other for access to the lucrative German market. Hitler was an admirer of American mass production techniques and an avid reader of the antisemitic tracts penned by Henry Ford. "I regard Henry Ford as my inspiration," Hitler told a Detroit News reporter two years before becoming the German chancellor in 1933, explaining why he kept a life-size portrait of the American automaker next to his desk. Although Ford later renounced his antisemitic writings, he remained an admirer of Nazi Germany and sought to keep America out of the coming war. In July 1938, four months after the German annexation of Austria, he accepted the highest medal that Nazi Germany could bestow on a foreigner, the Grand Cross of the German Eagle. The following month, a senior executive for General Motors, James Mooney, received a similar medal for his "distinguished service to the Reich."
Thanks... Big business did business with both sides. My complaint is that they also sent useless eaters such as myself to bleed and die for the bastards. Big business is now doing well with China, making billions, when war is decided, the lice at the bottom will once again be thrown into the death trap.
#43. To: Cynicom (#36)
My complaint is that they also sent useless eaters such as myself to bleed and die for the bastards. Big business is now doing well with China, making billions, when war is decided, the lice at the bottom will once again be thrown into the death trap. Take pride in being one of the very few veterans actually honoring his oath, Cynicom -- on the battlefield or off. Barbaric countries love war and eagerly sacrifice their youth to it -- the only citizens young and clueless enough to go. In this sense amerika and the other largest countries (and supposedly best-educated) are pre-medieval in their level of basic decency. I was probably about 7 when they told me it was just normal and required that every young man spend a couple of years in the military whether there was a war on or not. Every atom of my being revolted against this even back then! I really, REALLY didn't like the idea that I was expected to do anything when I grew up, including paying taxes -- and every bit of that revulsion has been vindicated by the rest of life.
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#4. To: Cynicom (#2)
If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????
#6. To: Lod (#4)
Some of each, imo.
#9. To: Cynicom (#6)
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If the law does not allow lesser wages and does not prohibit greater wages, one has to wonder why 99 per cent of employers have no employees warranting more than minimum wage.
#10. To: GreyLmist (#9)
#19. To: Cynicom (#10)
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HISTORY....
#20. To: GreyLmist (#19)
I'd have to check but that strike might be what sent Ford to Russia, where he likely made additional millions from his factory set ups there instead roundabout here
#25. To: Cynicom (#20)
I have a head full of useless information.
#26. To: GreyLmist (#25)
I suspect Ford may have been a camouflaged Communist
#28. To: X-15, GreyLmist (#26)
I suspect Ford may have been a camouflaged Communist
#31. To: Cynicom (#28)
#36. To: X-15 (#31)
Replies to Comment # 36. Big business did business with both sides.
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