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Title: McDonald's response to the $15 dollar an hour minimum wage
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Published: May 28, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-05-28 09:46:33 by Jethro Tull
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I have asked this question many times from those that decry unions, minimum wages etc etc... If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????
Some of each, imo.
If the law does not allow lesser wages and does not prohibit greater wages, one has to wonder why 99 per cent of employers have no employees warranting more than minimum wage.
Some jobs are just meant to be entry level minimum wage jobs. In other cases, employees that have worked years to rise slowly and slightly above minimum wage are being reset back to minimum wage, or very close to it, every time that minimum wage is raised and they don't get a comparable cost of living increase in their wages too. No matter how much minimum wage is raised, it is still just minimum wage. Businesses can simply increase their prices by the percentage of increase, regardless if they have just one or very few minimum wage workers, and they profit much from the rest of their staff's earnings staying the same (thereby losing more and more of their percentage margin above minimum wage each time). Businesses make a big show of grumbling about it but they are actually being enriched each time by that raise robbery sleight-of-hand scam and its resultant virtual rollback of their longterm/above minimum wage workfore closer towards entry level payment where they started.
HISTORY.... Henry Ford broke ranks with the capitalist barons by paying his workers five dollars a day. The business world was outraged. Ford was making millions, then he turned greedy, he "needed" to make more millions, but how? Ford invented the assembly line system. He had a bright idea, he could make more millions by speeding up the assembly line, paying the "laborers" the same pay to turn out more cars. Brilliant idea, make labor sweat, Ford has more millions to count. When the dastardly laborers had the audacity to go on strike, Ford and the police shot and killed a few of them, how dare they strike. No one went to jail, good men were dead and labor had learned their place at the bottom of the ladder.
Henry Ford broke ranks with the capitalist barons by paying his workers five dollars a day. The business world was outraged. Ford was making millions, then he turned greedy, he "needed" to make more millions, but how? Ford invented the assembly line system. He had a bright idea, he could make more millions by speeding up the assembly line, paying the "laborers" the same pay to turn out more cars. Brilliant idea, make labor sweat, Ford has more millions to count. When the dastardly laborers had the audacity to go on strike, Ford and the police shot and killed a few of them, how dare they strike. No one went to jail, good men were dead and labor had learned their place at the bottom of the ladder. I'd have to check but that strike might be what sent Ford to Russia, where he likely made additional millions from his factory set ups there instead roundabout here. Do people really need a union to go on strike? I don't think so. The coal miners, for example, should have asserted that the resources being extracted were their State's property and theirs too as citizens of it, imo, and if the proprietors didn't see it that way, they could try to go elsewhere and the workers would continue working for their economy. The unions did nothing to facilitate any bargainings like that to benefit laborers.
I have a head full of useless information. Ford and Stalin were olde buddies in the early 1930s. Of course Ford made millions off Stalin but Stalin got auto and truck factories with which to build tanks etc etc for WWII. The workers were shot in late 1930s, I cannot recall what year. If you ask why Stalin wanted armaments in 1930s, I will send along. Remember in early 1930s, Germany was training their army and air force in Russia, by and for Stalin.
Ford and Stalin were olde buddies in the early 1930s. Of course Ford made millions off Stalin but Stalin got auto and truck factories with which to build tanks etc etc for WWII. The workers were shot in late 1930s, I cannot recall what year. If you ask why Stalin wanted armaments in 1930s, I will send along. Remember in early 1930s, Germany was training their army and air force in Russia, by and for Stalin. Could you post that armament and training info for us? I suspect Ford may have been a camouflaged Communist and appreciate your insights on the past.
Here is written historical account, one of many. There are also photos on internet.
Here is written historical account, one of many. There are also photos on internet. Thanks much but it happened while I was reading through it that this part was not at all helpful to my efforts of reimaging Henry Ford as something other than a camouflaged Communist: Couldn't manage to translate those German words and all I could find about the company was that it has something to do with applied-research services for private and public enterprise. Back now to working at not thinking about Henry Ford anymore as maybe a disguised Communist. SUBARU LEGACY | JR. DRIVER COMMERCIAL
GEFU = society for the promotion of commercial enterprises. I guess since everybody already knows I'm a heretic, I'll posit that Ford and Detriot wordlessly demonstrate that mfg is no basis for a healthy long-term economy. Well, the total state of things shouts it in my view. Even if Ford wasn't a commie, mfg requires a constant stream of consumption and this breeds massive overkill and waste. Mfg has wings -- it suddenly flees an area after making it a major paragon of prosperity. Gary, Camden, the whole rust belt, this whole damn country!
Ford was a friend of Fr Coughlin and despised by the jews, so I think that qualifies him as OK in my book. Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
I have no idea. Corporations only have loyalty/ideology to profits; they don't care the country of origin.
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#4. To: Cynicom (#2)
If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????
#6. To: Lod (#4)
Some of each, imo.
#9. To: Cynicom (#6)
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If the law does not allow lesser wages and does not prohibit greater wages, one has to wonder why 99 per cent of employers have no employees warranting more than minimum wage.
#10. To: GreyLmist (#9)
#19. To: Cynicom (#10)
(Edited)
HISTORY....
#20. To: GreyLmist (#19)
I'd have to check but that strike might be what sent Ford to Russia, where he likely made additional millions from his factory set ups there instead roundabout here
#25. To: Cynicom (#20)
I have a head full of useless information.
#30. To: GreyLmist (#25)
Could you post that armament and training info for us?
#47. To: Cynicom (#30)
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Could you post that armament and training info for us?
During the months of August and September of 1923, the German company of GEFU (Gesellschaft für Förderung gewerblicher Unternehmungen) created a joint-venture company with its Soviet counterpart, Bersol. Two headquarters were created; one in Berlin and one in Moscow.
#51. To: GreyLmist (#47)
#55. To: NeoconsNailed (#51)
#58. To: Artisan (#55)
Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
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