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Title: McDonald's response to the $15 dollar an hour minimum wage
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Published: May 28, 2015
Author: Interwebs
Post Date: 2015-05-28 09:46:33 by Jethro Tull
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I have asked this question many times from those that decry unions, minimum wages etc etc...

If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-28   10:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

If union and wage laws were repealed, would the hourly rate go up, remain the same or go down????

If wage laws were repealed some would be paid more than others related to their skill and dependency, among other things.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-28   10:13:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

If wage laws were repealed some would be paid more than others related to their skill and dependency, among other things.

If that were true, would it not also apply now? That current employers would pay some employees more, or is it most likely they pay only what the law requires?

Having been child labor in the great depression, employers never, ever, paid for dependent or skilled help. Never happened.

They could hire four children for twenty five cents each for ten to twelve hours labor, or hire a man for a dollar. We know who they hired.

There is no milk of human kindness in employers, that will never happen.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-28   10:31:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

Having been child labor in the great depression, employers never, ever, paid for dependent or skilled help. Never happened.

They could hire four children for twenty five cents each for ten to twelve hours labor, or hire a man for a dollar. We know who they hired.

There is no milk of human kindness in employers, that will never happen.

Since there aren't unions for every category of work, it seems that only certain employers would be egregiously unfair like the lucrative coal mining industry, for example -- lucrative, as well, for the union industry that shields those employers from being bothered about any worker wage increases for years at a stretch until the next scheduled union negotiations.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-05-28   10:50:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#7)

We could revert to the good olde days, "laborers" had no rights, no recourse, had nothing. How dare they?

Example...

My wife was taken at age twelve from an orphanage, by a judge, given to a school teacher for free labor, for six long years. That was during the great depression, humans were given away, no rights, nothing.

Not so long ago, we had slave labor in this country, then we went to child labor, now some would revert back in time.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-28   11:09:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#8)

My wife was taken at age twelve from an orphanage, by a judge, given to a school teacher for free labor, for six long years. That was during the great depression, humans were given away, no rights, nothing.

Not so long ago, we had slave labor in this country, then we went to child labor, now some would revert back in time.

You should write up an essay about your & your wifes experience of what child labor was really like. That would generate a lot of interest because most people have never heard. Stories like that.

I think laws against child labor today aren't to prohibit forced labor, but serve to quash enginuity and parents teaching their kid work ethic. When I was a kid I had candy stands and made a good profit. Id also do extra stuff like wash cars and walk dogs for extra cash. And it wasn't because I needed cash or was lacking anything, but rather it was fun to earn your own money. Today those would be prohibited by gov regulations.

Artisan  posted on  2015-05-28   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#13)

People of this "modern" age do not want to read or hear of the past history of this country.

The internet is replete with hundreds of photos of children working in American factories, as young as six years olde.

At six he should become more "skilled" for higher wages?

Hunger is a stern taskmaster, its lessons are never forgotten.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-28   12:08:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom, christine (#17)

People of this "modern" age do not want to read or hear of the past history of this country.

The internet is replete with hundreds of photos of children working in American factories, as young as six years olde.

I don't think that's true, I think that many people would be very interested in your stories, myself included. I could publish it and I think it would get a lot of readership.

Small snippets on 4um now & again don't do all your knowledge & experiences justice, in my opinion.

I told some others here the story of my dad. I made a point to record many hours of video interviews with him about his life, etc for the future generations of our family. It is a priceless collection lept intact and I encourage everyone else to do the same with their parents and grandparents.

I bet you have a lot of interesting photos & momentos too. I love that kind of stuff.

Artisan  posted on  2015-05-28   15:11:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Artisan, Cynicom, 4 (#61)

I bet you have a lot of interesting photos & mementos too. I love that kind of stuff.

I agree; anecdotal history is just fascinating.

Lod  posted on  2015-05-28   15:16:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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