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Title: McDonald's response to the $15 dollar an hour minimum wage
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Published: May 28, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-05-28 09:46:33 by Jethro Tull
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#49. To: pmg (#48)
In my head. Dude their is a pm system you could use it to insult me like you normally do instead of shitting all over.this thread thanks. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
are you ever reading your own post?? LMFAO
if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people
GEFU = society for the promotion of commercial enterprises. I guess since everybody already knows I'm a heretic, I'll posit that Ford and Detriot wordlessly demonstrate that mfg is no basis for a healthy long-term economy. Well, the total state of things shouts it in my view. Even if Ford wasn't a commie, mfg requires a constant stream of consumption and this breeds massive overkill and waste. Mfg has wings -- it suddenly flees an area after making it a major paragon of prosperity. Gary, Camden, the whole rust belt, this whole damn country!
Invention, innovation, and manufacturing new goods and products are the very backbone of a healthy society and economy, in my view.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
We have to keep in mind this oligarchic shite posing as capitalism today isn't related to Adam Smith at all. What we have is greed stuffed in an undersized 3-piece suit.
That's interesting, I know a little bit about the history of hardees and their mexican menu. Hardees is the east coast spin off of Carls Jr, which was foinded in CA by Carl Karcher, a Catholic guy who began with a hot dog stand in So. Cal. (Karcher & his brother Frank donated lots of $$ to a beautiful Passionist Retreat Center called Mater Dolorosa in sierra Madre, CA.` Carls Jr only sold hamburgers and stuff for years. Pretty good burger. Meanwhile in the 80s a startup called Green Burrito began in So Cal and had very good quality Mex fast food. Burrito combos tacos, nachos, et, with fresh salsa bar. The chain began to franchose their stores and expan. I was friends with two guys who opened one in so. Cal. It was an amazing success story as they both, childhood pals from NY, quickly earned brand new homes & mercedes. They were PR genius and genuinely great wth people and great food to boot at their green urrito. (Which had nothing whatsoever to do with mega chain Carls jr/Hardees). Then, someone at corporate GB sold out to Carls which then began adding green burrito to its menu. However, the food quality and uniquiness went down the drain sadly. The independent green burriros still existed along with the green burritos in Carls jr. East coast Hardees callled it "Red Burrito", same menu as the GB in Carls. While its not bad for americanized Mx fast food, it doesn't hold a candle to the original GB. Though GB will always hold nice memories for me for many reasons. ;-) "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Ford was a friend of Fr Coughlin and despised by the jews, so I think that qualifies him as OK in my book. Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
And most people's, 'tis clear.
Fine, but what else is there ever with a mfg basis? What else could there ever be, in view of life, exploitation and pollution since the Industrial Revo began?
I have no idea. Corporations only have loyalty/ideology to profits; they don't care the country of origin. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Kudos for the (I think) proper (for once) use of the word meme. People might have gotten carried away with here calling him a communist, but if (!) it's true he did such business with the USSR that's not good at all. That's the problem with the super-wealthy -- nasty revelations about them keep popping up. Ford gave Americans affordable wheels and workers a decent wage, bravo for that, but was FoMoCo overall a blessing or a curse on Detriot? The town I live in has never known the heights of luxury and prestige Detriot did, but it's also never been turned into a black hole despite having its negro content. How long, in fact, was Detroit's Ford-induced heyday -- 30 years, say from 1925 to 1955? It's been an infamous negropolis as long as this baby boomer can remember. I don't mind a bit if Henry Ford helped the Nazis. Has a mighty purty ring to it!
Don't tell anybody, but I think the mushroom and swiss thickburgers a work of art. Must be full of MSG or something -- I do see double and can't sleep for 3 days after eating one (just kidding).
The internet is replete with hundreds of photos of children working in American factories, as young as six years olde. I don't think that's true, I think that many people would be very interested in your stories, myself included. I could publish it and I think it would get a lot of readership. Small snippets on 4um now & again don't do all your knowledge & experiences justice, in my opinion. I told some others here the story of my dad. I made a point to record many hours of video interviews with him about his life, etc for the future generations of our family. It is a priceless collection lept intact and I encourage everyone else to do the same with their parents and grandparents. I bet you have a lot of interesting photos & momentos too. I love that kind of stuff. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I agree; anecdotal history is just fascinating. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Fine, but what else is there ever with a mfg basis? What else could there ever be, in view of life, exploitation and pollution since the Industrial Revo began? Interesting suggestions recently by Tatarewicz that might be workable for a self-employed, labor based alternative-economy option instead of just the one that's business/mfg/financing based: Post #5 of 4um Title: SECRET MEETING IN LONDON TO “END CASH” ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I don't remember. lol Just kidding. : ) It was me. Just something that I've wondered about now and again amongst the run-up of things to WWII. Didn't know he was friends with Fr. Coughlin...but a Commie surely might want to infiltrate his ministry. Just sayin'. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Many aspire to much more than surviving here. Operating "under guidance of computer programmers" sounds like a socialist's wet dream. No thank you. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
That's intriguing! One of my own: since the govt (or Fed)* just prints all the money it needs for what it wants to do and even misplaces trillions at a time, why doesn't it simply write every adult a check for 50 grand a year? Or say 10 or 20 grand to each household to keep people motivated to do more. It would instantly cure poverty and if they want to provide free drugs to proven addicts (or just legalize everything) that will end the drug war. To keep people responsible it could start really enforcing penalties on those that drive stoned etc. *or FED as lots of our folk would naively write it.
Now, did you have to say wet dream? The word dream wouldn't have done it, is that right? Wet is gross, and we're in mixed company. Merely curious.
Yes, I did. It's a juvenile, never to be realized, sleep induced, orgasmic fantasy. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
No, you didn't. Wet dreams happen in teenage boys' pajamas. I fail to see why they must pepper conversation between conservatives like they do with liberals'.
It should do all of its printing on whatever brands of unperishable paper was seen around the grounds of the WTC on 9/11. I suppose the main reason that the govt doesn't issue yearly profit-sharing checks/dividends from its enterprisings is because it's miserly and usually claims to be a pauper. Also, we'd be like the Indians then who get such checks from their casino establishments. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Would be more workable if people who prefered to use cash had the option of being issued spendable certificates for their labor and contributions. Similarly, I remember when items could be purchased with Green Stamps and Blue Chip Stamps. That could maybe work well again, too, as an alternative monetary system. Possibly, the reason those were phased out is because they functioned very well transactionally and the Fed Res conglomerates lobbied against it. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
How did your street agitation go yesterday? Any pics?
It went great, thanks. No pics. The 15th anniv of the Confederate flag sellout in Columbia is coming up June 1. Anybody want to picket some of the traitors?
Can I picket from the comfort of my sofa?
Archiving some relevant migrant and economic info: From 4um Title: 49 U.S. Governors Request Refugees from Feds May 25, 2015 Exclusive From AFP [American Free Press] Activist Frank George of Wyoming has been working tirelessly to bring attention to the so-called U.S. Refugee Resettlement Program (RRP). Officially, the program falls under the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. But unlike most federal programs, the process is pretty simple. What happens is that the governor of a state, who wants to become a part of the program, contacts the federal government, which works in conjunction with the United Nations (UN) and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) like the secular Lutheran Services in America. The Catholic Church is also deeply involved in this program along with other denominations that sound like churches but are in reality NGOs. The NGOs are key to this, because they, with the help of the UN, seek out refugee populations to bring into the U.S. These private organizations are then paid by the head, much as with cattle, by the federal government, and sometimes even state funds are tapped for this purpose. Directors of these NGOs can earn as much as $400,000 a year, and the more people they bring into the U.S., the more money they make. Many population foreign-imports are likely to apply for gov assistance. Comparing that stage of the business profiteering process above to observations at Post #15 about regulating businesses that want to be outlandish and slave labor acquisitionists: Additionally: washingtontimes.com: Federal appeals court deals blow to President Obama’s amnesty [4um reference here] ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Suit yourself, but it sounds like you could use a little fresh air.
I for one am thankful I can get in my car and buy toothpaste. It was getting tiresome finding chalky deposits near cliffsides, pulverising it in a pestal really got to be a chore. It left me with no time to forage for fresh mint leaves.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Life's a bitch, move to Waco; they've lots of toothpaste and mouthwash there.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Free roaming mouthwash bushes? I'm there dude!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
And used Harley-Davidson's, thought the titles might be a bit 'murky' :-o sure all in your head all in there juste for you
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#51. To: GreyLmist (#47)
#52. To: NeoconsNailed (#51)
#53. To: Lod, Cynicom, 4 (#52)
#54. To: NeoconsNailed (#33)
#55. To: NeoconsNailed (#51)
#56. To: Lod (#52)
Invention, innovation, and manufacturing new goods and products are the very backbone of a healthy society and economy, in my view.
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#53)
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We have to keep in mind this oligarchic shite posing as capitalism today isn't related to Adam Smith at all. What we have is greed stuffed in an undersized 3-piece suit.
#58. To: Artisan (#55)
Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
#59. To: Artisan (#55)
Ford was a friend of Fr Coughlin and despised by the jews, so I think that qualifies him as OK in my book. Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
#60. To: Artisan (#54)
#61. To: Cynicom, christine (#17)
People of this "modern" age do not want to read or hear of the past history of this country.
#62. To: Artisan, Cynicom, 4 (#61)
I bet you have a lot of interesting photos & mementos too. I love that kind of stuff.
#63. To: NeoconsNailed, Jethro Tull, Tatarewicz (#57)
We have to keep in mind this oligarchic shite posing as capitalism today isn't related to Adam Smith at all. What we have is greed stuffed in an undersized 3-piece suit.
Eliminate monetary reward altogether; operate as a family under guidance of computer programmers. Western society now has more than enough resources and skilled labor to provide everyone with the basics of food, shelter and medical. Items beyond basics available on the basis of merit in terms of wealth production and training achieved to be available to do a job. Money stewards and counters are a redundancy in a cyber-robotics age; would be more useful in fixing potholes.
#64. To: Artisan (#55)
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Ford was a friend of Fr Coughlin and despised by the jews, so I think that qualifies him as OK in my book. Where-t-f did this Ford/Commie meme come from?
#65. To: GreyLmist (#63)
#66. To: GreyLmist (#63)
#67. To: Lod (#65)
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#68. To: NeoconsNailed (#67)
#69. To: Lod (#68)
#70. To: NeoconsNailed (#66)
That's intriguing! One of my own: since the govt (or Fed)* just prints all the money it needs for what it wants to do and even misplaces trillions at a time, why doesn't it simply write every adult a check for 50 grand a year? Or say 10 or 20 grand to each household to keep people motivated to do more.
#71. To: All (#63)
Eliminate monetary reward altogether; operate as a family under guidance of computer programmers. ... Money stewards and counters are a redundancy in a cyber-robotics age; would be more useful in fixing potholes.
#72. To: NeoconsNailed (#69)
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#72)
#74. To: NeoconsNailed (#73)
#75. To: X-15, 4 (#22)
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just wait until the Trans Pacific-Partnership is passed: every last job that can be sent to the Pacific Rim will fly out of America. Between that and the increase in H1-B visa's, a person will be lucky to get any job at all. This nation is just swirling around the (Pacific) rim before the final plunge.
At a time when the United States suffers from record high joblessness, unprecedented debt and a failing economy, governors in 49 states across the country have been taking money from the federal government to “resettle” refugees from third world countries in Africa and the Middle East. It’s all part of a little-known program whereby states like Wyoming and Minnesota, which have seen thousands of good-paying, middle-class jobs exported to foreign lands, agree to take in tens of thousands of foreign immigrants, who will no doubt have to depend on taxpayer-funded medical care and other welfare services.
Currently, the Federal Gov is itself basically in a pact with some commercial enterprises to subcontract Food Stamp recipients who are assigned to work-for-food. I suspect the Federales are profiting somehow as a sort of Temp Worker outlet for businesses that want to pay those centers an access fee for worker slaves who'll get zero actual-wages from them. That, of course, is not a good incentive for businesses to function more properly, fairly and supportively for the overall economy.
judges have ruled that Mr. Obama can’t go further and grant many [illegal alien] people an affirmative status carrying all sorts of benefits, including driver’s licenses, tax credits and preferential work status under the terms of Obamacare.
#76. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
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#77. To: NeoconsNailed, Jethro Tull, Lod, Cynicom (#76)
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#78. To: Dakmar (#77)
#79. To: Lod (#78)
#80. To: Lod, Dakmar (#78)
move to Waco; they've lots of toothpaste and mouthwash there.
-Alex Kurtagic
#81. To: GreyLmist (#21)
I haven't been to Arby's in many years, but out of curiosity I just checked their website, and that smokehouse brisket sandwich looks pretty good. I'll have to try when I'm in town one of these days. McDonalds doesn't show any sign of resting from its role in the culture war against us; they're 365 Black now, and have been for some time. http://www.mcdonalds.com/365black/en/home.html I boycotted Arby's for a long time because of their degrading commercial. After they stopped broadcasting that and seemed to be consistently moving away from those tactics, I decided to give them another chance.
#82. To: StraitGate (#81)
The brisket sandwich is a disappointment after my love affair with the reuben, the $1+ chocolate turnovers and all-too-temporary Andes mint chocolate shake. Arby's ain't your usual fast food joint. The one near me has an almost chic interior formerly including fake plants. The drive-through's alongside a curving row of mimosas. They had good club sandwiches for awhile on real bread. Curly fries are decadently delicious when fresh enough.
#83. To: GreyLmist (#71)
Certificates like cash seem to me to be a redundancy which uses up manpower, energy and resources. In Canada today medical and hospital care is available to all without having to pay any cash or present any certificates other than ID. Only medications have a charge and even these are mostly paid for out of taxes in the case of seniors. Patients don't even get a statement of what care costs and now there are so many doctors that clinics are advertising for patients and hospital docs make a real pitch for some therapy they feel you need. Food production is in so much surplus that it is estimated up 40% has to be thrown out. Add to this the cost of retailing. Would be much less wasteful to have programmers set up algorithms to determine each family's food requirements in advance, centrally package a week's supply and deliver the entitlement the way milk used to be delivered. Algorithms could likewise be devised to survey the population for needs/wants and determine what training/skills are required to meet people's desires. If you came up with an idea for a service or product (to enhance your merit status) an algorithm would do a market survey and determine feasibility, then arrange supply of resources and manpower to put your idea into production. Thanks for your input. Would be more workable if people who preferred to use cash had the option of being issued spendable certificates for their labor and contributions.
#84. To: Tatarewicz (#83)
15-20 years ago when this was all a lot newer we consistently heard that Canadians had endless long waits for basic (even urgent) procedures, it wasn't really that economical, Canadians were mobbing doctors south of the border in amerika. No longer the case? Never was? As ripped up by "diversity" as Canada is, I suspect it's not even half as bad as amerika yet in that regard, and if things like this "free" care work up there, it may not be a given they'd work here.
#85. To: NeoconsNailed (#84)
Reason Canucks went south for operations is that Canada lagged by ten years the advances made in US. This was told to me by a hospital worker when I mentioned a stenting technique or something like that. Canadians were mobbing doctors south of the border in amerika. No longer the case? Never was?
#86. To: Tatarewicz (#85) (Edited)
I have no way to dispute it, but it seems really strange that our only immediate first-world naber, sometimes dubbed the 51st state, would lag that far -- especially with less of the affirmative action shackles on them than we. DO you live in or near Canada?
#87. To: pmg (#24)
I don't know...I think the metabolic syndrome look has a certain appeal. McDonald's is better off closing for the population and economic heath reason anyway
#88. To: Tatarewicz (#83) (Edited)
Certificates like cash seem to me to be a redundancy which uses up manpower, energy and resources. In Canada today medical and hospital care is available to all without having to pay any cash or present any certificates other than ID. Only medications have a charge and even these are mostly paid for out of taxes in the case of seniors. Patients don't even get a statement of what care costs and now there are so many doctors that clinics are advertising for patients and hospital docs make a real pitch for some therapy they feel you need. Food production is in so much surplus that it is estimated up 40% has to be thrown out. Add to this the cost of retailing. Would be much less wasteful to have programmers set up algorithms to determine each family's food requirements in advance, centrally package a week's supply and deliver the entitlement the way milk used to be delivered. Algorithms could likewise be devised to survey the population for needs/wants and determine what training/skills are required to meet people's desires. If you came up with an idea for a service or product (to enhance your merit status) an algorithm would do a market survey and determine feasibility, then arrange supply of resources and manpower to put your idea into production. Thanks for your input. Similarly: zengardner.com Jun 24, 2015: Tim Jenkin – The Community Exchange System [20.75 minute video -- sport scoring comparison to explain the alternative monetary concept of cashless earnings by electronic-accounting; credit/debit card-like, as people have long been accustomed to using but usually with an option to convert their earnings into cash as well.] Published at YouTube on Jul 2, 2013 by School of Business and Economics This interview is part of an article published in the online magazine Talkin'Business of the School of Business and Economics at Maastricht University. Would be more workable if people who preferred to use cash had the option of being issued spendable certificates for their labor and contributions.
Very informative interview with Tim Jenkin, who founded the CES in Cape Town, an amazingly user-friendly alternative economy that has gone global over the last few years.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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