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Title: Surveillance powers set to lapse with no deal in Senate (False flag alert!)
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URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-05-31-19-36-38
Published: May 31, 2015
Author: ERICA WERNER and KEN DILANIAN
Post Date: 2015-05-31 20:03:52 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 161
Comments: 33
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The National Security Agency will lose its authority at midnight to collect Americans' phone records in bulk, after an extraordinary Sunday Senate session failed to produce an 11th-hour deal to extend the fiercely contested program. Intelligence officials warned that the outcome amounts to a win for terrorists. Poster Comment: Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag? An attack while NSA is defanged would assure an emboldened surveillance society while an uneventful period will make the laws appear unnecessary. Perception is reality and imo there is a lot riding on the next few days.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I put nothing past those pedo-cretins in deecee, nothing at all.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Yeah, I'm just about counting on it, and I'd lay odds on it, but I'm not a betting man. ISIS or whatever the f they call themselves, generously supported through the back door by our Offense Department, will commit some horrible outrage on "homeland" territory, and the alphabet soup of the mainstream will be banging trash can lids together screaming "I told you so!" I'm, like, depressed over it in advance. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
Utter bullshit. ""Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag? '' Not in my opinion. To me this "drama" is nonsense, no way the government will stop anything.
There is no "magic" plug to be pulled at midnight. Not possible.
No, but they'll bitch like hell that the Senate has deprived them of "vital tools" in the fight against "terror." They have an army of idiots ready to pop the cork on a Technicolor spectacular. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
There will be no change at midnight, regardless of what the huff and puff congress says.
This is a direct slap to the perception of national security. We know it's BS, but the morons don't. If we aren't whacked, then the argument against NSA surveillance has been strengthened enormously.
+1. They'll keep collecting info whether a law is in place or not. Who's there to stop them?
My guess is that the central government will keep on doing whatever they want to do anyway, with or without authorizing legislation. In fact, it's to the government's advantage if the people believe that the government has had to stop doing this thing or that thing to them because some bill supposedly expired.
My thoughts exactly. (I hadn't seen your post before I sent mine.)
Been in NSA bowels at Ft. Meade, it is a monster.
Interesting. Can you tell us more? I once read that the NSA parking lot has 10,000 parking spaces, and that it stays pretty full.
In a world of fuzzy edges and countless shades of gray, it's reassuring to still see someone here well grounded in rock hard reality. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
The air force detachment, at my last visit, had 900 analysts. They are one small segment. A few years ago one could drive around the entire base, with no gates or guards. Most everything is underground.
My first exposure to NSA was the year they were created, 1952, at that time and for many years they were strictly foreign oriented. The government changed that.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
''Republican leaders now hope to finish up action to restore Patriot Act surveillance authorities in the coming days, calling the authorities of critical importance at a time of rising and sophisticated terrorist threats."" the criminal monster is now in charge.
Yep. What a scam. The FBI admits that all the spying has resulted in ZERO attacks prevented. I want my money back. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I pretty much thought the same thing when I wrote this earlier today. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
""The U.S. intelligence community is vast, composed of 17 distinct organizations each operating under its own shroud of secrecy. Oversight of these agencies generally falls to the Department of Defense or Congress, leaving the average citizen with precious little knowledge of how they operate.""
Thanks. We are clueless as to what all is going on...by design. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
When I lived in dc, we had rats in the backyard. I pulled into the drive one evening and saw some large rats dive for cover. Upon inspection, I found that they'd disappeared down a couple of rat holes in the grass. I had a hose handy and tried drowning them out. The hose literally ran for hours before water came up along with a couple of baby rats escaping the deluge. Water would not kill these pests, and no poison I could buy would rid me of the rats. One of my neighbors clued me in to the city department responsible, and their office sent out an exterminator with some nasty stuff I was cautioned to stay away from and that you need a license to set out. That finally solved the problem. A strong agent is required to get rid of subterranean vermin. They are a stubborn breed. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
In Iowa, GOP voters are uneasy about Paul’s crusade against NSA spying By James Hohmann May 31 at 9:50 PM DAVENPORT, Iowa — Rand Paul notched a big victory in Washington on Sunday night by following through on his promise to block the renewal of the anti-terrorism law used to justify domestic spying programs. But back in Iowa, where Paul has tried to use the issue in recent days to revive his struggling presidential campaign, many Republican voters have responded with unease. Even some who stood in line to see Paul as he traveled the state last week said that they simply could not agree with his argument that the National Security Agency’s bulk data collection was an unreasonable invasion of privacy. “If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book-signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.” The MSM can always be counted on to lend a hand to the establishment.
Dear God. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” Naive, ignorant, stupid sheep and they...VOTE... Government ....STORES.....everything we say for present or...FUTURE...use. Ten years from now they can punch in Jethro Tull and review every phone call that potential enemy of the state has made. Damn.
Dear God. Hard to believe, isn't it?
If ever there was a reason for mass data collection.....
Not really.... When I ask two school teachers who Lenin and Stalin were and they never heard of them, the government skool system has done its job. P.S. They both knew who Hitler was, is there a clue there?????????
They know what THEY want them to know.
The second button contains key words they desire such as revolution, shoot, remove and...GOVERNMENT...They tell the judge that Jethro used the words revolution and shoot a hundred times in ten years, proof he is a terrorist. The government judge agrees, says "hang the man at sunrise".
I'm sure that ISIS stays up nights war-gaming against Des Moines.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
(Edited)
Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag?
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Intelligence officials warned that the outcome amounts to a win for terrorists.
#4. To: randge (#2)
I'm, like, depressed over it in advance.
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
There is no "magic" plug to be pulled at midnight.
#6. To: randge (#5)
No, but they'll bitch like hell that the Senate has deprived them of "vital tools" in the fight against "terror."
#7. To: randge, Lod, Cynicom (#2)
Yeah, I'm just about counting on it, and I'd lay odds on it, but I'm not a betting man.
#8. To: Cynicom (#3)
....no way the government will stop anything.
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#10. To: Obnoxicated (#8)
+1. They'll keep collecting info whether a law is in place or not. Who's there to stop them?
#11. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, randge (#7)
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
Been in NSA bowels at Ft. Meade, it is a monster.
#13. To: Cynicom (#6)
There will be no change at midnight, regardless of what the huff and puff congress says.
#14. To: StraitGate (#12)
I once read that the NSA parking lot has 10,000 parking spaces, and that it stays pretty full.
#15. To: randge (#13)
#16. To: Cynicom, 4 (#15)
patriot act update -
#17. To: Lod (#16)
#18. To: Cynicom (#17)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag? An attack while NSA is defanged would assure an emboldened surveillance society while an uneventful period will make the laws appear unnecessary.
#20. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, All (#18)
#21. To: Cynicom (#20)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Surveillance powers set to lapse with no deal in Senate (False flag alert!)
#23. To: Cynicom (#14)
Most everything is underground.
#24. To: All (#0)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-iowa-gop-voters-are-uneasy-about-pauls-crusade-against-nsa-spying/2015/05/31/0b528f46-0775-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
“If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”
#26. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#24)
said that they simply could not agree with his argument that the National Security Agency’s bulk data collection was an unreasonable invasion of privacy.
#27. To: Lod (#25)
“If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”
#28. To: Cynicom (#26)
Ten years from now they can punch in Jethro Tull and review every phone call that potential enemy of the state has made.
#29. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#27)
Hard to believe, isn't it?
#30. To: Cynicom (#29)
They both knew who Hitler was, is there a clue there?????????
#31. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#28)
#32. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, 4 (#27)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
(Edited)
“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book-signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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