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Title: Surveillance powers set to lapse with no deal in Senate (False flag alert!)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-05-31-19-36-38
Published: May 31, 2015
Author: ERICA WERNER and KEN DILANIAN
Post Date: 2015-05-31 20:03:52 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 314
Comments: 33

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The National Security Agency will lose its authority at midnight to collect Americans' phone records in bulk, after an extraordinary Sunday Senate session failed to produce an 11th-hour deal to extend the fiercely contested program.

Intelligence officials warned that the outcome amounts to a win for terrorists.


Poster Comment:

Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag? An attack while NSA is defanged would assure an emboldened surveillance society while an uneventful period will make the laws appear unnecessary. Perception is reality and imo there is a lot riding on the next few days.

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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Am I right in thinking that this is the time for a false flag?

Yeah, I'm just about counting on it, and I'd lay odds on it, but I'm not a betting man.

ISIS or whatever the f they call themselves, generously supported through the back door by our Offense Department, will commit some horrible outrage on "homeland" territory, and the alphabet soup of the mainstream will be banging trash can lids together screaming "I told you so!"

I'm, like, depressed over it in advance.

randge  posted on  2015-05-31   20:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge, Lod, Cynicom (#2)

Yeah, I'm just about counting on it, and I'd lay odds on it, but I'm not a betting man.

This is a direct slap to the perception of national security. We know it's BS, but the morons don't. If we aren't whacked, then the argument against NSA surveillance has been strengthened enormously.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-05-31   20:33:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, randge (#7)

Been in NSA bowels at Ft. Meade, it is a monster.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-31   20:40:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Been in NSA bowels at Ft. Meade, it is a monster.

Interesting. Can you tell us more?

I once read that the NSA parking lot has 10,000 parking spaces, and that it stays pretty full.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-05-31   20:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: StraitGate (#12)

I once read that the NSA parking lot has 10,000 parking spaces, and that it stays pretty full.

The air force detachment, at my last visit, had 900 analysts. They are one small segment.

A few years ago one could drive around the entire base, with no gates or guards.

Most everything is underground.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-05-31   21:07:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: Cynicom (#14)

Most everything is underground.

When I lived in dc, we had rats in the backyard.

I pulled into the drive one evening and saw some large rats dive for cover. Upon inspection, I found that they'd disappeared down a couple of rat holes in the grass.

I had a hose handy and tried drowning them out. The hose literally ran for hours before water came up along with a couple of baby rats escaping the deluge. Water would not kill these pests, and no poison I could buy would rid me of the rats. One of my neighbors clued me in to the city department responsible, and their office sent out an exterminator with some nasty stuff I was cautioned to stay away from and that you need a license to set out.

That finally solved the problem. A strong agent is required to get rid of subterranean vermin. They are a stubborn breed.

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