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Title: Answers Sought After Church Group Shooting
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w ... 784-2005Mar14?language=printer
Published: Mar 14, 2005
Author: RYAN NAKASHIMA and JULIET WILLIAMS
Post Date: 2005-03-14 12:08:51 by crack monkey
Keywords: Shooting, Answers, Sought
Views: 80
Comments: 6

Answers Sought After Church Group Shooting

By RYAN NAKASHIMA and JULIET WILLIAMS The Associated Press Monday, March 14, 2005; 11:43 AM

BROOKFIELD, Wis. - It was just another weekend service for churchgoers in this Milwaukee suburb when, without warning, they began to be gunned down by one of their own.

Now victims' relatives are struggling to keep their faith and find answers.

"This is a totally senseless thing," said Jeff Miller, whose 44-year-old brother, Gerald, died shielding an elderly woman who survived. "He was a great guy. He didn't deserve to die."

Terry Ratzmann, a buttoned-down churchgoer known for sharing homegrown vegetables with his neighbors, walked into the room and police said he shot 22 bullets from a 9 mm handgun within a minute.

None of those who knew him expected Ratzmann to be violent, though some said he had grappled with depression. Neighbors said he was quiet and devout, that he liked to tinker about his house and garden. He would even release the chipmunks caught in traps he set in his yard.

But Saturday, the Sabbath for the Living Church of God, Ratzmann turned on worshippers. When it was over, seven people, including the church's minister and his teenage son, were killed, and four others, including the minister's wife, were wounded. Ratzmann, 44, then shot himself; he sat slumped against the back wall with four rounds left in his gun, police said.

"He wasn't a dark guy. He was average Joe," said Shane Colwell, a neighbor who knew Ratzmann for about a decade. "It's not like he ever pushed his beliefs on anyone else."

The 44-year-old computer technician lived with his mother and sister in a modest home about two miles from the suburban Milwaukee hotel where police say he opened fire during service.

The Charlotte, N.C.-based Living Church of God is a denomination that grew out of a schism in the Worldwide Church of God, formed in 1933, and focuses on "end-time" prophecies.

This year, the group's leader, Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, wrote that events prophesied in the Bible are "beginning to occur with increasing frequency." The church has an estimated 6,300 members in 40 countries.

Ratzmann himself regularly attended the gatherings at the Sheraton hotel - the Milwaukee-area church group did not have a building of its own.

Member Chandra Frazier told "Good Morning America" that he had walked out of a recent sermon "sort of in a huff." The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Monday the Feb. 26 sermon that upset Ratzmann had made the point that people's problems are of their own making.

Charles Bryce, the national church's director of administration, said Monday he was told the sermon was about "basic Christian living" but was trying to get more information about what specifically upset Ratzmann.

"That's something we just don't know. I don't know whether we'll ever know," Bryce said.

Between 50 to 60 people were at the weekly meeting Saturday, and anyone in Ratzmann's path appeared to be a target. He allegedly dropped a magazine and reloaded another.

It was so unbelievable, someone shouted out, "This is for real!"

Dorothy Hodzinski hit the floor and Gerald Miller, a delivery truck driver, threw his arm over her as they lay together, she told WISN-TV in Milwaukee.

"He tried to protect me," she said. "I said, 'Gerry, I think you better start to pray.'"

"He said 'Yeah, I think we better,' and he went 'uh' ... Maybe that's when he was shot."

Although he left no suicide note and gave no explanation for the killings, investigators said Ratzmann was on the verge of losing his job. Agents who searched Ratzmann's home found three computers containing many encrypted files. They also found a rifle and ammunition.

Ratzmann went to church every Saturday, Colwell said, and had lived in the same house his entire life. But another neighbor called Ratzmann a drinker, and church members said he struggled with depression.

"When he was really depressed he didn't talk to people. Sometimes it was worse than others," said Kathleen Wollin, 66, who was sitting at the front of the room during Saturday's service.

A former member of the church told the Journal Sentinel Ratzmann was a smart but "angry" figure.

"He was always kind of weird and standoffish. He never did anything physically violent, but he could say things very sharply," said David Patrick of Versailles, Ky. "I always saw the potential there for him to explode. I was intimidated and scared of him at times."

In addition to Miller and Ratzmann, the dead were Randy L. Gregory, 51, and his son, James Gregory, 16; Harold Diekmeier, 74; Richard Reeves, 58; Bart Oliver, 15; and Gloria Critari, 55.

Gregory's wife, Marjean, 52, remained hospitalized in critical condition Monday. Matthew P. Kaulbach, 21, and Angel M. Varichak, 19, were in satisfactory condition. A 10-year-old girl police identified as Lindsay was released from the hospital.

A crowd gathered for a candlelight vigil Sunday night at a makeshift memorial of flowers, crosses and stuffed animals in a snowbank in front of the hotel.

Ratzmann was not known to have threatened anyone and had no criminal record, police said. Waukesha County supervisor Andrew Kallin, who led the vigil, could only offer a prayer.

"The Lord works in mysterious ways."

© 2005 The Associated Press

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#1. To: All (#0)

The Charlotte, N.C.-based Living Church of God is a denomination that grew out of a schism in the Worldwide Church of God, formed in 1933, and focuses on "end-time" prophecies.

The Rapture Monkeys are a weird bunch alright. Is it just me, or does one seem to go on a rampage every month or so?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-14   12:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Mad moms, insane law By RICK CASEY Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

At a time when I should be thinking about a particular Madonna and child, I find myself preoccupied with Andrea Yates.

And three other Texas women since Yates who, like her, killed their babies after a history of mental illness.

This is not a column of Christmas cheer, but it hopes to tap Christmas charity.

Yates' lawyer and prosecutors argued before an appeals court last week over whether her conviction and sentence of life in prison should stand.

Yates' lawyers presented 19 points of error in the trial. I don't envy the justices having to wrestle with the Yates case.

But from my point of view, the trial itself was an error, an error caused by the primitive state of Texas law.

Four similar cases Consider these brief facts from the four recent cases:

•Andrea Yates killed her five children in 2001. She had been repeatedly hospitalized for depression. A psychiatrist who saw her after her fourth birth described her as one of the sickest people he had seen. She called the police on herself, and said she killed the children after conversations with Satan because it was the only way to guarantee heaven for them and protect them from her inadequacies as a mother.

•Lisa Diaz of Plano killed her two children, 3 and 5, in 2003. She had repeatedly sought medical help for terminal illnesses she did not have. She said she killed her children, and then repeatedly stabbed herself in an attempted suicide, to save them from evil spirits and terminal diseases that she thought she had given them. A jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity.

•Deanna Laney of Tyler killed two sons and maimed a third in 2003, then called 911. She said God told her to do it to test her faith. Even the prosecution's expert psychiatrist said she was legally insane. A jury found her not guilty.

Hymns in background

•Earlier this year, Dena Schlosser of Plano killed her 10-month-old son, then called her husband to tell him what she had done. She belonged to a fundamentalist sect. When police arrived, a hymn was playing in the background and a Bible was open in her bedroom. She told a police officer she "felt like I had to" kill the baby. The night before, she told her husband she wanted to "give her child to God," according to police.

Schlosser had been investigated by Child Protective Services for neglecting her baby. She was put on medication for depression, then weaned off. After a relapse, she was reportedly put on medication again but appears to have quit again. The court this week ordered her to be tested to see if she is competent to stand trial. Her attorney, David Haynes, said Friday his understanding is that the psychiatrist found she isn't. If so, she will have to receive medication and therapy so she will be sane enough to be tried.

These cases have several things in common.

They involve horrible homicides of small children. The women have histories of psychiatric illnesses. The women made no attempt to escape responsibility for their acts, none of the deception that denotes most crimes.

None was shown to have any motive for what they did other than those arising from their deranged mental states.

For a mother to kill her babies so goes against nature that she should be assumed to be doing it out of insanity unless there is evidence that she had some other motive — maybe an insurance policy she intends to collect on or a boyfriend who can't stand the children.

Yet under Texas law, prosecutors feel impelled to try to convince a jury that the women, in their mental illnesses, knew what they were doing was "wrong." And we don't even provide a definition of "wrong."

So Andrea Yates kills her children because she thinks it's the only way they're going to heaven, but calls 911 because she knows it's illegal.

Texas law made this mad woman sane, then sent her to a prison mental ward. This law is itself either crazy or barbaric.

My Christmas wish: Let's change it.

You can write to Rick Casey at P.O. Box 4260, Houston, TX 77210, or e-mail him at rick.casey@chron.com

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-14   12:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: crack monkey (#1)

The Rapture Monkeys

They (The Charlotte, N.C.-based Living Church of God) are Seventh Day Adventists. They may believe in "end times prophecy", but they may not be "rapture monkeys".

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-14   14:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CWRWinger (#3)

They (The Charlotte, N.C.-based Living Church of God) are Seventh Day Adventists. They may believe in "end times prophecy", but they may not be "rapture monkeys".

Weren't the 7th day Advenitst the first Rapture Monkeys?

The daddy of them all so to speak?

I recall a story when they predicted the end of time somewhere back in the 1870s. Everyone gave away their possessions and stood on a hill waiting for the Rapture. When it didn't come, someone went into a barn and had a vision that the dates were different in heaven than on earth. Since that time, they predict the end of the world every few years or so. When it doesn't come to pass, someone has another vision that sorts it out for them.

If there is any truth to this, and I think there is, then they are Rapture Monkeys incarnate.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-14   19:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: crack monkey (#4)

Weren't the 7th day Advenitst the first Rapture Monkeys?

First chance I get, I'll check into it.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-15   9:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: crack monkey (#2)

We've had a rash of those nutcase rapture monkey women ripping their babies apart here too.

One was sentenced to 7 or 8 years about a month ago. When the judge announced the sentence, the defendant lunged over the judge's bench in an attempt to kill her.

The trial for the second started a week or so ago. I haven't heard anything about that one yet.

Don't know anything about the third.

The papers aren't mentioning anything about them being religious nutcases, but my neighbor who works down there tells me that they are really taking a toll on the people who have to deal with them. From what he's saying, these women pace around their cells screaming at the top of their lungs about the rapture, sitting at the right hand of God, and being lifted out of their clothes 24/7.

Esso  posted on  2005-03-15   10:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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