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Title: Caught On Tape: Cop Pulls Gun On 2 Kids, Unleashes Profanity-Laden Tirade In Affluent Suburb
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URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015- ... y-laden-tirade-affluent-suburb
Published: Jun 8, 2015
Author: Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMa
Post Date: 2015-06-08 14:24:29 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: law enforcement, police state
Views: 2986
Comments: 213
Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com, I’ll be up front with you and say that this video is disturbing. It’s like a bucket of ice-cold water thrown in the face of the dream world that most people are walking through. Watching riots on TV in places like Baltimore and Ferguson, it’s easy to think, “That couldn’t happen here. All that police violence only happens in poor communities.” Guess again. This weekend it was the safe, quiet suburb of McKinney, Texas, about 30 minutes outside of Dallas. McKinney is no gang-infested slum; it’s an affluent bedroom community with an average household income over $96,000 according to Colliers International. (Having grown up just a few miles away, I would add that it’s pretty sterile too, full of big-box retailers, megaplex cinemas, and chain restaurants.) Over the weekend some local kids were having a summer pool party to celebrate a friend’s birthday. With that many adolescents crammed together in one place, there was undoubtedly some silly teenage drama going on. And police were called to the scene. One of them starts off almost immediately screaming profanity-laden tirades at the kids, many as young as 14. This courageous officer’s advice to young people included such gems as “Sit your asses down,” and “Don’t make me fuckin’ run around with 30 pounds of goddamn gear on. . .” At one point throws a girl to the ground who had apparently failed to ‘get her ass out of here’ with appropriate alacrity. You can see him grab her neck and attempt to shove her face into the pavement. The kids all start screaming. Two of them rush over to try and help their classmate, at which point Captain America pulls his gun out and advances menacingly towards them. They bolt. So he turns his attention back to the girl, grabs her head once again, and screams “ON YOUR FACE!!!” as he pins her down on the ground and puts her in handcuffs. It’s really disturbing to watch. Had it been a parent trying to grind his kid’s face into the pavement, Child Protective Services would have immediately removed the girl from the home and the father would be rotting in jail this very moment. But when a police officer does it, he goes on ‘leave’. And only when he’s unlucky enough to be caught on camera. If some random stranger grabbed your child and started attacking her, you’d instantly turn into Bruce Lee and put the guy in a Kung-Fu death grip. But when a police officer attacks your child, the government expects you to just stand around and watch. That’s one of the most disturbing things from the video. You’ll see there are a bunch of adults in the video milling around with their hands in their pockets while the kids get abused. I appreciate they’re doing whatever they feel like they can do to make the best of a bad situation. But they’ve been indoctrinated for so long that their reaction is to be obedient and submissive. They don’t interfere with ‘the law’. They know their place and they act like it. The kids, on the other hand, are all still young enough that they haven’t totally subordinated themselves to the state. There’s still a part of them that’s free. So when the cops get totally out of control, their instinct is to fight back. That is, after all, our natural instinct– to be free. We have to -learn- to be intimidated and subservient to the state. We have to learn to stand around with our hands in our pockets while our children are abused. And that learning takes place in none other than the public school system. I checked the McKinney Independent School District’s website and found that these kids all recite the Pledge of Allegiance in the morning, including that part about “liberty and justice for all.” They sing songs gushing about freedom in America. But they just got a taste of how free they really are. Hopefully that lesson stays with them. It’s certainly more powerful that an entire semester of the mandatory civics class they have to take. After watching the video I actually downloaded a copy of the staple civics textbook Magruder’s American Government, and found a rather prescient passage in the first chapter: “This nation was founded by those who loved liberty and prized it above all earthly possessions.” True statement. But that instinctive flame to be free has gone out for so many people, not only in America but across the world. And no nation can rise again until that flame is rekindled. The textbook continues: “To preserve and protect [their rights and liberty], each generation must learn and understand them anew, and be willing to stand up for them when necessary.” Perhaps that time is finally coming. Poster Comment: -------------------------------------- CRAZY!Caught On Tape: Cop Pulls Gun On 2 Kids, Unleashes Profanity-Laden Tirade In Affluent Suburb
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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
A show of hands: Who thinks that these cops are: A: Mentally balanced Running is now a crime. Must suck to be so paranoid. It's easy to see however why their jobs are so difficult. Without the heroic intervention of these guys the kids would have been left to simply have a good time in the heat. Thank god for these guys keeping us all safe. I would have been terrified driving through that neighborhood and all of those kids in swimsuits. It's clear that they could have had all kinds of weapons stuffed into their trunks & bikinis. I can't believe that these heroes in blue actually risked their lives to protect the community! That girl in the bikini weighing have of that full-grown man was clearly a threat to him, it's obvious. Again, what a dangerous job. I hope that I never have to start a fight with a girl half mysize in a bikini with no shoes while I'm wearing gear designed to mix it up. I'd be terrified. It clearly makes him feel like a big man. Must be that his homelife ain't goin' so well. How'd you like to be that asshole's wife. Sounds like what threw them into psychotic rage was the fact that there was an altercation between a woman and a girl. Everyone else was "guilty" by association even though a fight isn't necessarily a crime. Talk about overreaction. One of these days a few of them are going to be unrecognizeable after a crowd finally has had enough. I have to say my pity will be nonexistent on that day. Perhaps that'll teach these psychos to behave like civil human beings. I doubt it, but one can hope. In the meantime, guilty until proven innocent continues to rule the land, and proving oneself innocent costs money, sometimes much money, especially when these psychos make up evidence against them. Our society is so morally fucked up!
morally and mentally “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The cops were attempting to put down another black riot. The neighborhood was invaded by a black flash-mob. The news media are, again, fueling the black undertow by deliberately lying and representing the 'black yoots' as innocent waifs-of-the-summer enjoying ice cream and having robust discussions of philosophy and religions around the pool.
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B: Have broken brains and are mentally diseased
#2. To: Katniss (#1)
Our society is so morally fucked up!
#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: Katniss (#1)
The niggers came back to that neighborhood at night and stole a truck and crashed it into other vehicles, attempted to kick in front doors, vandalized everything that could be damaged.......but don't look for ANY television or newspaper outlet in DFW report the whole story.
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: Katniss (#1)
From a local forum in DFW: Maybe those "urban youths" should consider the following: 1. Don't show up to a TPC golf course community where you aren't invited to and have no business being at in the first place. 2. Don't scale fences, hide in bushes, advertise on FB and twitter etc. 3. Don't try to reenact the freaknik at the country club pool. 4. Don't harass the residents who pay quite a bit of money to live in a nice PRIVATE community. 5. When the cops come, usually things like yes sir, no sir go a long way. Trying to run, disobeying instructions, yelling 'I dindu nuffin', and swarming a cop while he is detaining your home girl are all not helpful. You are not going to win an argument. If you have a gripe, by all means, film the interaction and take it up in court. 6. After you have been thrown out of a neighborhood you don't belong in, don't come back later to vandalize vehicles and houses because you feel 'disrespecked'.
-Alex Kurtagic
#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
"Facebook friends and family – PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported… A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived. This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies. PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE. The unfortunate result is that our neighbors are now being threatened. We have also had cars and property in and around the park area vandalized this weekend. Unfortunately, the press and social media are trying to enflame the situation. I am asking for your help for my family and my neighbor’s safety…PLEASE, PLEASE do not rebroadcast any of these lies."
-Alex Kurtagic
#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
quote: One resident, Benet Embry, a black man, posted on Facebook about the events leading up to the police call. “Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all,” Embry wrote. “A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issues that NEED our attention other flights of made up make believe causes.” In another post he is critical of media coverage of the incident. “I’ve never seen such irresponsible reporting and miss management of media resources in my life,” he said. quote: Bryan Gestner, posted on Facebook, “This was a Twitter party that turned into a mob event. Jumping pool fence. Assaulting 2 security guards, attacking a mother with three little girls. The video doesn’t show everything.” He continued saying the kids were drinking and “smoking weed” and they would not listen to any of the adults around the pool. “This isn’t about race,” he continued. “This is about outside kids invading our neighborhood and had no respect for authority or the residents here. I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.” “Yall don’t know the whole story,” Gestner continued. “I commend the officer for handling this situation.” Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”
-Alex Kurtagic
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, 4 (#0)
When feral blacks encounter civilized people chaos is always the end result. BTW, if white people are so racist & evil why do they invade our swimming pools?
#10. To: All (#9)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
Defiant swimming as racial empowerment? :) if white people are so racist & evil why do they invade our swimming pools?
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: X-15 (#3)
+1. Can't be easy dealing with a screaming pack of hysterical buhboons bent on starting a chimpout.
#13. To: X-15, 4 (#11)
We've entered the Age of Crackpottery. I was told long ago that the End Times will be ushered in by a 'general confusion' a time when even formally clear thinkers roll off the track into the gully. We're there. Defiant swimming as racial empowerment? :)
#14. To: X-15 (#7)
AM radio reported this morning that the pool-party was hosted by a black family that lived in the community. Sounds like the DJ was the prime cause of nogs crashing a community event. Whatever, the one cop was over the top, imo.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
I have to agree, sadly. If cops stand down to mob violence then that puts the onus on The People to resort directly to firearms to maintain order. I don't want that to happen, not at all. I sincerely want everybody to behave and leave other people's property alone. I've got my share of grievances with the actions and misdeeds of some cops, but they are a 'thin blue line' between Evil and the wrath of a pissed-off citizenry.
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: X-15 (#3) (Edited)
gin annog saggin
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#17. To: Dakmar (#16)
Unfortunately. However, this IS DFW, there's not a history of that kind of nonsense going on here. Guess why???
-Alex Kurtagic
#18. To: Lod, X-15 (#14)
D J Reign wasn't invited by the residents, rather he 'twitters out' Rave Parties & charges $15 a head (or whatever he can get.) As far as the cop goes, I've been surrounded by chimps and I've done the same. I'd do the same today as an armed citizen.
#19. To: All (#18)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
So the idiot DJ was the cause of all this mess? I'd think that her actions are actionable.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#21. To: Lod, Katniss, x-15, Obnoxicated, jethro tull, dakmar, (#2)
morally and mentally ------------------------------------------ History repeats - with vengeance. Man is ignorant to his own ways, refuses to take counsel, rejects ancient wisdoms, and repeats the sins of fallen generations and civilizations. I often think about Socrates being forced to drink hemlock for speaking out against the state corruption, and the corrupted youth of his day. The Suicide of Socrates, 399 BC Socrates Socrates was 70 years old and familiar to most Athenians. His anti-democratic views had turned many in the city against him. Two of his students, Alcibiades and Critias, had twice briefly overthrown the democratic government of the city, instituting a reign of terror in which thousands of citizens were deprived of their property and either banished from the city or executed. After hearing the arguments of both Socrates and his accusers, the jury was asked to vote on his guilt. Under Athenian law the jurors did not deliberate the point. Instead, each juror registered his judgment by placing a small disk into an urn marked either "guilty" or "not guilty." Socrates was found guilty by a vote of 280 to 220. We are coming quickly to a 'Socrates' choice in this country if you speak out against homosexual perversion, the corruptness of this government and law enforcement, and a youth who now has absolute free reign and is devoid of even the meanings of morality and integrity, you may soon PAY WITH YOUR LIFE! As I've said, MOST LE are mentally SANE and decent folks. But that is changing quickly. The sane and decent folks are beginning to throw up their hands and walk away from a professions that is CRITICAL to keeping our society from diving into the abyss of anarchy. Bribes on both sides. "Just pull over here and get into my squad car ma'am and we can 'take care' of this ticket." "Man, I'll give you half of this meth if you don't bust me. It's worth about $40,000. Nobody will ever know." What happens when you take a punk and put him in a L.E. uniform? Bad, bad shit. Our society is so morally fucked up!
On a day in 399 BC the philosopher Socrates stood before a jury of 500 of his fellow Athenians accused of "refusing to recognize the gods recognized by the state" and of "corrupting the youth." If found guilty; his penalty could be death. The trial took place in the heart of the city, the jurors seated on wooden benches surrounded by a crowd of spectators. Socrates' accusers (three Athenian citizens) were allotted three hours to present their case, after which, the philosopher would have three hours to defend himself.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#22. To: Lod (#20)
That's the million $$$ mystery: Young KC's whereabouts and whether the police are throwing handcuffs at this area troublemaker.
-Alex Kurtagic
#23. To: X-15 (#22)
It that your neck of the woods, X?
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
I drive by Craig Ranch twice a week, I've seen that whole area built up from pastures since the mid-90's. It's pretty nice for suburbia (read: $$$ excludes the undesirables)
-Alex Kurtagic
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
McKinney is about 60 miles north of Dallas proper on IH35 if memory serves. 35 will soon enough be built-out to OK.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#26. To: X-15 (#24)
Thank god $$$ still works. I could never live with them (read: $$$ excludes the undesirables)
#27. To: Lod (#25)
Is that part of that super highway thingie? 35 will soon enough be built-out to OK.
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
Yes, Rick Perry's dream that's been derailed for a while.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#29. To: Lod (#25)
McKinney is off I-75. It's I-35 that goes North from Waco-Fort Worth- Gainesville to Okiehoma.
-Alex Kurtagic
#30. To: Lod (#28)
Thank goodness for that. You just know that if he gets into the Oval Office that it'll become a federal "priority", with executive orders and eminent domain being used to gobble up private land. Rick Perry's dream that's been derailed for a while.
-Alex Kurtagic
#31. To: X-15 (#29)
DOH...I knew that...thanks for clearing the brain-fart. Isn't there 35 and 35W? or am I in a parallel universe here?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#32. To: X-15, Lod (#30)
I think Texas should be given to Mexico. snicker
#33. To: Lod (#31)
Yes, it splits north of Waco, goes through Fort Worth and Dallas, then merges together again in Denton.
-Alex Kurtagic
#34. To: Cynicom (#32)
Hey!! Then you'll be deprived from exposure to taco's, festive fiesta music, and Mexican pointy boots. I think Texas should be given to Mexico.
-Alex Kurtagic
#35. To: X-15 (#33)
Thanks, I've only driven those roads since '65 and completely forgot about Central Expressway etc. Don't get olde.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#36. To: X-15, Lod (#34)
Obombo should declare Texas a separate country, make it a buffer zone between Messico and civilization. hehehehehe
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
Here comes the other shoe dropping: Cornell William Brooks, NAACP president and CEO, released the following statement on the incident: “I am deeply disturbed by the McKinney Police Department’s treatment of these African American teenagers. The excessive force on an unarmed 14-year-old girl clad only in a bikini by an officer wearing a uniform and a gun, was particularly troubling. "These teens appeared to be simply attending a pool party and deserved respectful treatment under the law. We are calling for a full investigation of the McKinney Police Department officers and that they be held accountable to the full extent of the law. We also join the community in wrapping our arms around these young people as they heal from the physical and mental scars this incident may have caused.” starlocalmedia.com/mckinn.../mckinney-police-officer- placed-on-leave-after-throwing-girl-to/article_bb2ca766-0d52-11e5-8e0d- afc03a177a23.html#user-comment-area
-Alex Kurtagic
#38. To: Cynicom (#36)
That would leave Tejas free to deal with the border as the state see's fit, without FedGov oversight or interference. Mexico would end up with a shooting war on the border in short order, possibly. Obombo should declare Texas a separate country
-Alex Kurtagic
#39. To: X-15 (#37)
What a crock. We also join the community in wrapping our arms around these young people as they heal from the physical and mental scars this incident may have caused.”
#40. To: X-15 (#37)
Uhhh... Give me a break, gum. We also join the community in wrapping our arms around these young people as they heal from the physical and mental scars this incident may have caused.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#41. To: Lod (#40) (Edited)
Evidently this has hit a very raw nerve with White people in McKinney: they're pushing back hard against WFAA/KDFW/Dallas Morning news. The DFW news media thought that White people would roll over on this but it's blowing up in their collective faces and they are confused.
-Alex Kurtagic
#42. To: X-15 (#41)
Great! keep us posted on what seems to be a developing story. The DFW news media thought that White people would roll over on this but it's blowing up in their collective faces and they are confused.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#43. To: X-15 (#37)
======================================= Link not working, can you post a separate article pls. I still think from the footage the responders went a little ape shit. starlocalmedia.com/mckinn.../mckinney-police-officer- placed-on-leave-after-throwing-girl-to/article_bb2ca766-0d52-11e5-8e0d- afc03a177a23.html#user-comment-area
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#44. To: X-15 (#41)
------------------------------------------------ I know Houston got a butt load of Katrina 'survivors.' Has that impacted Dallas as bad as Houston? Glad you folks finally got some rain ;>) Evidently this has hit a very raw nerve with White people in McKinney: they're pushing back hard against WFAA/KDFW/Dallas Morning news. The DFW news media thought that White people would roll over on this but it's blowing up in their collective faces and they are confused.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#45. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#44) (Edited)
North Texas is drowning, CenTex and the Hill Country are still in drought mode, even with the recent flooding. Lakes and aquifers are still thirsty.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
------------------------------------------------------- Source pls. "There was no racism, police brutality, it was idiotic teens doing idiotic things and thiking they didn't need to suffer any consequences. Now our beautiful neighborhood and neighbors feel like someone came and pooped all over our lives."
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#47. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#43)
It's the McKinney Courier-Gazette, a small local rag. Here's the whole article: starlocalmedia.com/mcki nneycouriergazette/ At around 7:15 p.m. June 5, police responded to a disturbance at the Craig Ranch North Community Pool. The initial call came in as a disturbance involving multiple juveniles at the location who do not live in the area or have permission to be there, and who were refusing to leave. Police received several additional calls related to the incident advising that juveniles were fighting, according to police. Upon arrival, officers encountered a large crowd that police say refused to comply with their commands. Nine additional officers responded to the scene, and police were eventually able to gain control of the situation, said Officer Sabrina Boston, McKinney PD spokeswoman. But not before at least one officer, Cpl. Eric Casebolt, was clearly angered. A teenager at the scene recorded a video that shows Casebolt expressing his ire with profanity, mad that the teens were making him run around "in the sun because you want to screw around." What really caught viewers' attention, though, was Casebolt using force to get a girl to the ground. Casebolt is shown throwing around the girl, 15-year-old Dajerria Becton, and pushing her face into the ground. He shoves others who come near, and when two men surround him on the other side, seemingly to come to the girl’s aid, Casebolt pulls out his gun and points it at them. “This video has raised concerns that are being investigated by the McKinney Police Department,” Boston said in a news release. “At this time, one of the responding officers [Casebolt] has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of this investigation.” The video went viral, with local and national news outlets picking it up. Over 4.3 million people had viewed it on YouTube by Monday morning. McKinney Mayor Brian Loughmiller said in a released statement that he was “disturbed and concerned” by the video and that he and the City Council expect the police department to “act professionally and with appropriate restraint relative to the situation they are faced with.” After the incident went viral, many took to social media to vent their frustrations, either with the police officers’ actions or with the negative attention the case was getting. Michael Cory Quattrin, who says he lives in the Craig Ranch neighborhood where the party was held, said in a Facebook post that a DJ had set up at the pool and blasted explicit music, then invited others to the pool party via Twitter for $15. “The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence,” the post reads. “The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene.” Quattrin went on to say that the video is “only a very small segment of what happened” and that reports are painting the neighborhood as a “whites only, racist area.” “Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright lie,” he stated. Other videos have surfaced showing at least one fight between two girls outside the pool, with neighbors breaking it up, before police arrived. Benet Embry, who's black, posted on his Facebook account: "Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all. A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issues that NEED our attention other flights of made up make believe causes." Yet, plenty think Casebolt handled the situation with unwarranted force and intimidation. One person even posted Casebolt’s address online as an urge for retaliation against the officer. Many are calling for the immediate firing of Casebolt and his permanent removal from the police department. R.G. Osborne told the McKinney Courier-Gazette there are plenty who are "prepared to demonstrate in solidarity for the rights of the children who were abused and humiliated by Officer Eric Casebolt." "Racism cannot be tolerated anywhere, but most especially it cannot be tolerated when practiced by the very people whose sworn (and, I might add, taxpayer paid) duty is to protect the safety of all citizens, not just those whose color they find personally acceptable," Osborne wrote in an email. McKinney Police Chief Greg Conley, who just recently took over as head of the department, said Sunday that an internal affairs investigation is being conducted. State and national NAACP leadership plans to meet with Conley on Monday and “demand a thorough investigation led by an independent police agency,” according to a release. Cornell William Brooks, NAACP president and CEO, released the following statement on the incident: “I am deeply disturbed by the McKinney Police Department’s treatment of these African American teenagers. The excessive force on an unarmed 14-year-old girl clad only in a bikini by an officer wearing a uniform and a gun, was particularly troubling. "These teens appeared to be simply attending a pool party and deserved respectful treatment under the law. We are calling for a full investigation of the McKinney Police Department officers and that they be held accountable to the full extent of the law. We also join the community in wrapping our arms around these young people as they heal from the physical and mental scars this incident may have caused.”
-Alex Kurtagic
#48. To: Lod (#45)
Lakes and aquifers are still thirsty. -------------------------------------------- I have a good friend and two nieces I need to go see in Houston. If it were anywhere else in Texas I wouldn't dread going. Love the country around Orange, Texas! Love Texas! Suzy give me goose bumps .. North Texas is drowning, CenTex and the Hill Country are still in drought mode, even with the recent flooding.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#49. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#44)
Has that impacted Dallas as bad as Houston? No. Of course, White people avoid Dallas blacks at every turn, we know better without "visiting the zoo" that the "cages" don't contain the animals very well. Sounds brutal, but there it is. I know Houston got a butt load of Katrina 'survivors.'
-Alex Kurtagic
#50. To: X-15 (#47)
Tnx, bud. I pray 'Don't Mess With Texas' still applies to Al Sharpton. It's the McKinney Courier-Gazette, a small local rag. Here's the whole article:
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#51. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Jethro Tull (#47)
http://starlocalmedia.com/mckinneycouriergazette/news/family-members-civil- rights-activists-speak-out-against-mckinney-police/article_e0f48340-0e0d-11e5- a282-077e0fa8b81b.html (copy/paste link if you like, auto link won't work with something so long) Civil rights activists, local pastors and family members spoke out against what they deem racist and unprofessional behavior by McKinney Police Cpl. Eric Casebolt, whose seemingly excessive force while responding to a Friday pool party went viral over the weekend. As state and national NAACP leaders met with Police Chief Greg Conley inside the McKinney Public Safety building, a press conference was held right outside its doors Monday afternoon. Those who spoke called for the immediate firing of Casebolt, who’s been placed on administrative leave pending an internal affairs investigation into Friday’s incident. Jahi Adissa Bakari, father to a teenage girl struck by Casebolt as he was trying to hold down teen Dajerria Becton, the focus of the incident, said he was disappointed that McKinney PD didn’t have any female or black officers respond to the party. Though he “saw [officers] doing the right thing,” he said Casebolt “was out of control” and should be drug tested, then fired. “He pulled the gun out on teenagers,” he said. “I thought it was over at that point.” Another parent, Maurice Gray, whose wife and five children were at the party, said there was no sex or weed there as has been reported, according to his wife. “I really was afraid of what I saw on the video,” he said. David Lee, a Christian author, spoke most passionately in front of media. “Appalling” and “unacceptable” were how he described Casebolt’s actions, largely because they were directed at and in the presence of children, he said. “We have a rogue officer on our hands,” said Lee, a former McKinney resident. “He has to go.” But others urged people to allow due process and a full investigation before making swift judgments. Derrick Golden, pastor at Amazing Church, said, “McKinney is on watch … we believe we’re going to get the right, righteous resolve.” Bruce Miller, Christ Fellowship pastor and the lone white speaker at the press conference, said pastors have been praying and communicating – “standing together against racism … calling out city to justice, to peace and to love.” Activists are calling for all charges against teens at the party to be dropped, and for Casebolt and any other officer who “assaulted these minors” to be fired and criminally charged. /////////////////////////////////// Here comes the Baltimore/Ferguson bullshit.
-Alex Kurtagic
#52. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#48)
As you saw on the news, Houston got hammered with rain also; epic rainfall.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#53. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#48)
Thanks, Suzy gets it done very, very well.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#54. To: X-15 (#51)
=================================== Family members, civil rights activists speak out against McKinney police officer In Baltimore, the same agitators who raised hell in Ferguson were bused into Baltimore. Be on the lookout for out of state plates. Activists are calling for all charges against teens at the party to be dropped, and for Casebolt and any other officer who “assaulted these minors” to be fired and criminally charged.
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#55. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#46)
Check Michael Quattrin FB page.
#56. To: X-15, 4 (#51)
Yet more excuses for animalistic 'groid behavior. Civil rights activists, local pastors and family members spoke out against what they deem racist and unprofessional behavior by McKinney Police Cpl. Eric Casebolt, whose seemingly excessive force while responding to a Friday pool party went viral over the weekend.
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
==================================================== He's mentioned here. Source: LIBERAL NPR Days after a dramatic video surfaced of a Texas police officer pulling a gun and screaming at young people at a community pool, the teenage girl he forced to the ground has spoken out. So have local residents who back the police. The officer who briefly pulled a gun and then held the teenager on the ground — at one point by kneeling on her back — has been identified as Cpl. Eric Casebolt. He has been put on leave, but the video record of him shouting profanities and ordering swimsuit-clad youths to get on the ground has renewed a broader conversation over the proper use of police force and the dynamics of race in America. The teenage girl who was pushed to the ground and briefly detained is black; Casebolt is white. Many critics of the police action at the Craig Ranch North Community Pool say that black teens at the outdoor party were targeted. "Everything could've been solved way better than what it was," says Tatiana Rhodes, 19, who tells local TV news WFAA that she organized the party along with her mother and sister. "I mean, there were other officers that were actually nice to people." Rhodes and her sister, 15, say that they can't stop thinking about the incident; her sister calls it "horrific." ADVISORY: This video contains profanity and violence. McKinney's police department says it took at least 10 units to calm the scene at the Craig Ranch North Community Pool, and that the first officers arrived around 7:15 p.m. local time Friday. They were answering residents' concerns about "multiple juveniles at the location, who do not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave," the department said Sunday. The teenager, whose age was initially reported as 14 and has since been listed as 15, spoke to local Fox 4 News, saying of the officer who grabbed her, "He told me to keep walking, and I kept walking. And then, I'm guessing he thought we were saying rude stuff to him." She described how her arm had been twisted around her back, how her hair had been pulled and how her back hurt. She added, "Him getting fired is not enough." But some homeowners who live near the pool have backed the police in the matter. Fox 4 reports that someone put up a sign at the pool Sunday thanking the officers for their work. The station also spoke to a woman who didn't want to be identified on camera. "They were just doing the right thing when these kids were fleeing and using profanity and threatening security guards," the white resident says of the police. On Sunday, McKinney Police Chief Greg Conley said: "A formal investigation into the incident has been started, and the officer involved has been placed on administrative leave, pending the outcome of the investigation. "The McKinney Police Department is committed to treating all persons fairly under the law. We are committed to preserving the peace and safety of our community for all of our citizens." At a news conference Sunday, Conley refused to discuss what one questioner called a history of racial tension in McKinney. This background about the town comes from the Dallas Morning News: "McKinney attracted national attention in 2004 after the Police Department's tactics were called into question by the U.S. Department of Justice. Racial tensions between police and residents in an east-side neighborhood escalated following four execution-style slayings earlier in the year. "About 75 percent of McKinney residents are white, and about 10 percent are black, according to 2010 census data." Local radio show host Benét Embry, who is black and lives in McKinney, tells the Morning News that the community "is not a racist neighborhood" and that it's "unfortunate that an event like this brings the spotlight." Embry also says that police who responded to calls of a disturbance at the pool did their best to restore order — and that a small number of kids were "acting the fool." Another view comes from Michael Corey Quattrin, who wrote a post on Facebook that has been shared tens of thousands of times since it was posted Sunday night. Quattrin, who says he lives in the neighborhood, believes the incident is being misrepresented. Quattrin says that both black and white teenagers from outside the neighborhood were drawn to the party by tweets, and that led to a scene that prompted residents to call police. "The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool," he says. "Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene." The McKinney Police Department has been slow to provide details about Casebolt, and a LinkedIn profile in his name has been deleted. According to the Morning News, before it was removed, Casebolt's profile described him as a Navy veteran and former highway patrolman who joined the McKinney police force in the summer of 2005. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/08/412889290/texas-pool-party-update-teens-and-residents-speak-out Texas Pool Party Update: Teens And Residents Speak Out
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#58. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, 4 (#57)
Quattrin says that both black and white teenagers from outside the neighborhood were drawn to the party by tweets, and that led to a scene that prompted residents to call police. "The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool," he says. "Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene." Quattrin did a terrific job of reporting, but it's to no avail. This is a perfect opportunity for darks to advance their agenda, and they will thx to ignorance & white guilt. Another view comes from Michael Corey Quattrin, who wrote a post on Facebook that has been shared tens of thousands of times since it was posted Sunday night. Quattrin, who says he lives in the neighborhood, believes the incident is being misrepresented.
#59. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, 4um (#57)
It just struck me that whenever you are having a Pool-Party, and have a need for security officers, something is way, way wrong somewhere.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#60. To: Lod (#59)
There you go, being practical again. It just struck me that whenever you are having a Pool-Party, and have a need for security officers, something is way, way wrong somewhere.
#61. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#59) (Edited)
If I got caught up in a swirling crowd of chimping 'groids I damn sure would have my pistol out and be trying to back away from it all, I'm no fool and I like living. Cop had more balls than I would to wade into that mess. If I lived in Craig Ranch I'd be super-pissed that those little thugs made their way into my neighborhood. The people who live there are PAYING to be in a rarified atmosphere.
-Alex Kurtagic
#62. To: X-15, 4 (#61)
Not too shabby, if you're into that sort of living. check out craig ranch tx -
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#63. To: X-15 (#61)
Sounds like they need to splurge on some additional security to keep their air properly filtered. PAYING to be in a rarified atmosphere.
#64. To: Lod (#59)
School, funerals, anti-violence rallies, awards ceremonies...is there some common denominator to spontaneous yet guaranteed mayhem? It just struck me that whenever you are having a Pool-Party, and have a need for security officers, something is way, way wrong somewhere.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#65. To: X-15, 4 (#61)
The Alpha chimp gets in the wind when the cop's gun comes out, so the desired result was achieved w/o undue violence. Of course some people would prefer a cop never unholster his gun but they have never been chimped.
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
We should take up a collection to buy those folks some Chuck E Cheese gift certificates, dine-in only. The Alpha chimp gets in the wind when the cop's gun comes out, so the desired result was achieved w/o undue violence. Of course some people would prefer a cop never unholster his gun but they have never been chimped
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#67. To: Dakmar, X-15, Lod, Cynicom, HAPPY (#66)
WARNING Heavily armed Just posted...... #McKinney residents plan to crash tonights anti police brutality protest. Be careful out there. pic.twitter.com/Nn5uxkVRCJ
#68. To: Buzzard (#63)
Rarified atmosphere, lol! The whole thing is a scam perpetrated by the filter manufacturers! Sounds like they need to splurge on some additional security to keep their air properly filtered.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#69. To: All (#67)
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#67)
Malibu's Most Wanted meets the Beverly Hillbillies, DFWPD must be terrified.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#71. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
I would have cracked her upside the head for not respecting my authortie, which is like reason #3 I'm not a cop.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
There's all the evidence we could need. It even looks like he's got a gun back there.
#73. To: NeoconsNailed (#72)
"Sit down, shut up" He had me with the badge. Of course I'm wholly in favor of redemptive force in the face of miscreants. Should be legal.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#74. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
=================================================== I (seriously as hell) blame Hussein Obama. This is a perfect opportunity for darks to advance their agenda, and they will thx to ignorance &
white guilt
. 
Bill Burr White Guilt and Racial Stereotypes in Movies
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#75. To: Lod, Katniss, x-15, Obnoxicated, jethro tull, dakmar, (#67)
Just posted...... ======================================= This came from out of the Blue. Wasn't orchestrated or organized, just mean Blacks forcing their way into a private pool party (tweeted by naive White kids) that sucked them in. It does however bring on a new dimension to why Texans are not comfortable with J.Helm. Fully expect certain 'spectators' in the live audience. Its too quickly developing and too far away from the northeast to bring in outside instigators, just locals, that we know of .. WARNING Heavily armed #McKinney residents plan to crash tonights anti police brutality protest. Be careful out there. pic.twitter.com/Nn5uxkVRCJ
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#76. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
bumping #69
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#77. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#74)
I'd probably land the role of the nerdy black man which would be fine until I had to look the part, then a rich relative would burst in with a super gift..... Racial Stereotypes in Movies
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#78. To: jethro tull, x-15 (#0)
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#79. To: Katniss, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)
Cop
Who Brutalized and Pulled Gun on Kids at a Pool Party was ‘Officer of the Year’I can't believe that these heroes in blue actually risked their
lives to protect the community! That girl in the bikini weighing have of that
full-grown man was clearly a threat to him, it's obvious. Again, what a
dangerous job. I hope that I never have to start a fight with a girl half mysize
in a bikini with no shoes while I'm wearing gear designed to mix it up.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
#80. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, BUMP! (#74)
That is a hoot, HAPPY!!! :P
#81. To: Bill D Berger (#79)
===================================== I
call this the "Black piranha feeding frenzy effect." And everyone scratches
their head wondering why good men don't want to be law enforcement. Cop
Who Brutalized and Pulled Gun on Kids at a Pool Party was ‘Officer of the
Year’
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#82. To: Dakmar (#77)
You sayin' you got the nerdy part down OK??
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#83. To: Bill D Berger (#79)
Please accept this gift certificate redeemable for two dine in meals at the Chuck E Cheese of your choice. 49 cent off purchase of 1.10 or more.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#84. To: randge (#82)
Flubber remake would have been much funnier with Dakmar instead of Eddie Murphy. You sayin' you got the nerdy part down OK??
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#85. To: McKinney (#84)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
WTF is that? She's wearing wooden spoons as earrings? Is that some kind of black-pride, tribal thing?
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
#87. To: Bill D Berger, McKinney, X-15, Lod, Cynicom, HAPPY, NN, et al (#86) (Edited)
Beats the f**k out of me, but the Racial road show has arrived in McKinney, TX. www.weaselzippers.us/225...g-the-road-show-to-texas/
#88. To: X-15 (#47)
Guess Sharpton won't be asking this guy over for dinner. Apparently he is off the black reservation completely and is able to think for himself. Doesn't he know that calling black yoots "thugs" is racist? After Baltimore riots, some leaders slam 'thug' as the new n-wordBenet Embry, who's black, posted on his Facebook account: "Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all. A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
#89. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#74)
This must be in celebration of the thread heading -- "Profanity-Laden Tirade". Bill Burr White Guilt and Racial Stereotypes in Movies
#90. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#44)
Has that impacted Dallas as bad as Houston? I have a friend who was actually moving from Ca to Houston when katrina hit. She had some epic stories and thought they were literally going to die that day. I know Houston got a butt load of Katrina 'survivors.'
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#91. To: All (#87)
#92. To: Jethro Tull, Bill D Berger, McKinney, X-15, Lod, Cynicom (#87)
www.weaselzippers.us/225...g-the-road-show-to-texas/ Beats the f**k out of me, but the Racial road show has arrived in McKinney, TX. ======================================= Posted .. (WITH LIVE LINK) - #McKinney Protest: The Radicals Bring The Road Show To Texas To: Bill D Berger, McKinney, X-15, Lod, Cynicom, HAPPY, NN, et al
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#93. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
Bitch, you are the fifth generation Sec 8, and how many whelps do you have who will continue the proud tradition?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#94. To: Lod (#2)
The latter follows the former. Always. morally and mentally
#95. To: X-15 (#5)
Not sure what one has to do with the other. Going by what other Texans here and in the piece say about the neighborhood being relatively nice. It sure looked nice. I didn't see a single black person deserve what was handed to them in that video. You supporting the swine here? The niggers came back to that neighborhood at night and stole a truck and crashed it into other vehicles, attempted to kick in front doors, vandalized everything that could be damaged.......but don't look for ANY television or newspaper outlet in DFW report the whole story.
#96. To: Lod, 4 (#93)
Niggers & their imps are forever wading in... Bitch, you are the fifth generation Sec 8.....
#97. To: X-15 (#6)
1. Don't show up to a TPC golf course community where you aren't invited to and have no business being at in the first place. 2. Don't scale fences, hide in bushes, advertise on FB and twitter etc. 3. Don't try to reenact the freaknik at the country club pool. 4. Don't harass the residents who pay quite a bit of money to live in a nice PRIVATE community. 5. When the cops come, usually things like yes sir, no sir go a long way. Trying to run, disobeying instructions, yelling 'I dindu nuffin', and swarming a cop while he is detaining your home girl are all not helpful. You are not going to win an argument. If you have a gripe, by all means, film the interaction and take it up in court. Yeah, that's right, and if you do then risk the psychotic behavior of Cops-Out-Of-Control! Right! And by all means, let's start making all kinds of excuses to allow this behavior ...., rather continued behavior, by cops all around the country. BRILLIANT! Think things through please! Maybe those "urban youths" should consider the following:
#98. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#21)
And quite frankly life won't really be worth living then. If it gets to a point where people are not free to choose their own peaceful morality, forced to believe lies, at least overtly, and have to act against their own liberty, if that's not a time to either take action or stand down permanently, I have no idea when that would be. JMO We are coming quickly to a 'Socrates' choice in this country if you speak out against homosexual perversion, the corruptness of this government and law enforcement, and a youth who now has absolute free reign and is devoid of even the meanings of morality and integrity, you may soon PAY WITH YOUR LIFE!
#99. To: Bill D Berger (#79)
Those awards are for corrupt establishments. True peaceful civil societies don't need them. The Nobel Peace Prize has been reduced to a joke, and damn sure asshole corrupt congressman calling each other "distinguished" is the joke of the century, among others. Suits hide much. Cop Who Brutalized and Pulled Gun on Kids at a Pool Party was ‘Officer of the Year’
#100. To: Katniss (#98)
If it gets to a point where people are not free to choose their own peaceful morality, forced to believe lies, at least overtly, and have to act against their own liberty, if that's not a time to either take action or stand down permanently, I have no idea when that would be. JMO ================================= Taking things in perspective .. Nations RISE and nations FALL. It is a rule of nature as solid as an apple falling from a tree. Man always corrupts his own best inventions, and the USA is just a pimple on the butt of history. Looking at these events from historical perspectives and how they are impacting the USA on a NATIONAL level gives one a good grip on what is about to unfold. I take none of this personally, in fact it is to be expected. And because I don't take them personally (I DID NOT CAUSE THEM), I sleep very, very good at night knowing the difference. And quite frankly life won't really be worth living then.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#101. To: Katniss (#98)
So, are you going to kill a cop or kill yourself? And quite frankly life won't really be worth living then.
#102. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#100)
This country is a first class immoral shithole, a real filth pit. Between the worship of wealth and mammon, the raising of extemporaneous and pervasive bullshit to the level of "hero" status, the lies and propaganda fed to people in the name of "news", etc., the subsequent and related war on the human populace around the globe, this country has its ass where its head should be. It lost its soul long ago.
#103. To: Katniss (#102)
Between the worship of wealth and mammon, Relax, have a beer, it's going to be a looooong Summer. This country is a first class immoral shithole, a real filth pit.
#104. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
=============================================== You just reminded me, I've got a chilled bottle of wine in the fridge .. Relax, have a beer, it's going to be a looooong Summer.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#105. To: Dakmar (#84)
Dawg.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
#106. To: Katniss (#99)
Anyone wearing a suit today reveals much, to me. Especially a PIAPS.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#107. To: Katniss (#95) (Edited)
Yes. If I lived in that neighborhood I would want those hooligans removed with whatever level of force it took to make it happen. If the "youth" get mouthy with the cops and don't comply with multiple orders to "Leave now!" then they reap what they sow.
-Alex Kurtagic
#108. To: Jethro Tull, Katniss, Lod, Dakmar (#103) (Edited)
The social organizers haven't thought this through if they think that they're going to lay a Baltimore or Ferguson on Texas. Those people are paying a lot of money for their homes in Craig Ranch. What does mortgage/homeowner insurance say about civil disturbance/civil unrest? Not covered/denied/too bad. That puts the cops in a tough spot: if they're told to hang back, like happened in Ferguson/Baltimore, I guarantee you that Texans will say "Step aside" and take care of business in short order. They won't allow the George Soros sponsored Black Summer Olympics to leave their homes in smoldering ruins. No sir. And that would be wrong to put the citizens in the position of having to defend their homes/businesses while cops just look on.
-Alex Kurtagic
#109. To: X-15 (#107) (Edited)
Then I'd suggest that you're a part of the problem, not a part of any solution. That's establishment talk. Over a pool party and a fight between a woman and a girl? Really? You'll be next one day for something else. Don't bitch when it happens. Yes. If I lived in that neighborhood I would want those hooligans removed with whatever level of force it took to make it happen.
#110. To: X-15 (#108)
photo 001g.gif First of all, yeah right. I think that's just Texas pride talking and as is almost always the case, the words are much bigger than the actions when TSHTF. Secondly, I think you're comparing apples to oranges here. I realize that any time you see a black person it spells trouble for you, but these kids didn't seem to be problematic besides perhaps only minor stuff. In no way was the cops' reaction warranted. And oh yeah, I noticed that all the "good cops" on duty there too didn't seem to give much of a shit either. The social organizers haven't thought this through if they think that they're going to lay a Baltimore or Ferguson on Texas. Those people are paying a lot of money for their homes in Craig Ranch. What does mortgage/homeowner insurance say about civil disturbance/civil unrest? Not covered/denied/too bad. That puts the cops in a tough spot: if they're told to hang back, like happened in Ferguson/Baltimore. I guarantee you that Texans will say "Step aside" and take care of business in short order. They won't allow the George Soros sponsored Black Summer Olympics to leave their homes in smoldering ruins. No sir. And that would be wrong to put the citizens in the position of having to defend their homes/businesses while cops just look on.
#111. To: Katniss (#109)
Any solution should involve the parents of those black youth getting thumped real hard for raising mouthy little pieces of shit. I've got no sympathy for any of the blacks involved, they've wore out their welcome in America.
-Alex Kurtagic
#112. To: Katniss (#110) (Edited)
You'd willingly allow a black mob to torch your home/car while the cops look on? I think not. Texas has a target on it because: 1. It was a part of the Confederacy. That grudge will never go away. 2. Texas never experience the diversity of a good, wholesome black riot back in the 1960's. That chaps "their" hide to this day.
-Alex Kurtagic
#113. To: X-15 (#111)
I'm with you there, X. The parents have an obligation to teach their kids how to comport themselves in a civilized society. Nobody should expect any favoritism or have a different set of standards and expectations based upon the tone of their skin.
#114. To: X-15, ethro Tull, Katniss, Lod, Dakmar (#108)
======================================= 'STAND YOUR GROUND' applies to your house, and even your SWIMMING POOL. Texas just happens to be a 'STAND YOUR GROUND' state. ======================================= Most states have long allowed the use of reasonable force, sometimes including deadly force, to protect oneself inside one's home—the so-called Castle Doctrine. Outside the home, people generally still have a "duty to retreat" from an attacker, if possible, to avoid confrontation. In other words, if you can get away and you shoot anyway, you can be prosecuted. In Florida, there is no duty to retreat. You can "stand your ground" outside your home, too. Florida is not alone. Twenty-three other states now allow people to stand their ground. Most of these laws were passed after Florida's. (A few states never had a duty to retreat to begin with.) Here's a rundown of the states with laws mirroring the one in Florida, where there's no duty to retreat in public places and where, in most cases, self-defense claims have some degree of immunity in court. (The specifics of what kind of immunity, and when the burden of proof lies on the prosecution, vary from state to state.) Many of the laws were originally advocated as a way to address domestic abuse cases 2014 how could a battered wife retreat if she was attacked in her own home? Such legislation also has been recently pushed by the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups. Click on the state to see its law. Illinois (The law does not include a duty to retreat, which courts have interpreted as a right to expansive self-defense.) Oregon (Also does not include a duty to retreat.) Washington (Also does not include a duty to retreat.) http://www.thewire.com/national/2012/03/23-other-states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/ The social organizers haven't thought this through if they think that they're going to lay a Baltimore or Ferguson on Texas. Those people are paying a lot of money for their homes in Craig Ranch. What does mortgage/homeowner insurance say about civil disturbance/civil unrest? Not covered/denied/too bad. That puts the cops in a tough spot: if they're told to hang back, like happened in Ferguson/Baltimore. I guarantee you that Texans will say "Step aside" and take care of business in short order. They won't allow the George Soros sponsored Black Summer Olympics to leave their homes in smoldering ruins. No sir. And that would be wrong to put the citizens in the position of having to defend their homes/businesses while cops just look on.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#115. To: X-15, (#108)
===================================================== This much property tax can hire a lot of PD protection. Those people are paying a lot of money for their homes in Craig Ranch.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#116. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
While the lamestream milks yet another opportunity to declaim systemic violence against poor innocent blacks, they totally ignore yet another unarmed White man gunned down by a psychopathic cop for walking with his hands in his pockets. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e10_1433447679
#117. To: StraitGate (#116)
================================================== Numbers don't lie, except when they are over or understated of course, which the gov routinely does, depending on which regime is in power. ================================================== Uploaded on Apr 22, 2011 This Video is a list of Crime statistics provided by the FBI and US justice department, in relation to the differences between White And Black crime rates and a comparison of the amount Crimes Blacks and Whites commit against each other. Link on screen gives most information for the video. For others ask which specifically and I will provide them. The purpose is in no way to suggest that all Black people are Criminals, merely to show the difference in the sheer amount of Crimes committed, in relation to their proportion of the population. The only category Blacks don't commit a higher percentage of crimes in comparison to their percentage of the population is DUI http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf -Blacks 39 times more like to commit crime against whitesWhile the lamestream milks yet another opportunity to declaim systemic violence against poor innocent blacks, they totally ignore yet another unarmed White man gunned down by a psychopathic cop for walking with his hands in his pockets.
-35,000 black on white rapes reported per year
-9 (nine!) white on black rapes
(This means that every day, over 100 white women are raped or sexually assaulted by black men)
-Over 3000 black on white gang rapes
-White on black gang rapes "so rare" they do not even show up on statistics.
To all the liberal posters out there, how can you possibly argue with DOJ STATISTICS?
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#118. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#48)
She gave them to me. What a great rendition of Someday Soon. Suzy give me goose bumps ..
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#119. To: christine (#118)
Have you heard her sing Somewhere Between (Your Heart and Mine)? Beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2X3gBm3cE What a great rendition of Someday Soon.
#120. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
^^good find^^
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#121. To: StraitGate (#119)
Listening now...she's awesome.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#122. To: Bill D Berger (#88)
oh, lord, is there another planet to move to? I'm getting really, really sick of this one. After Baltimore riots, some leaders slam 'thug' as the new n-word
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#123. To: All (#122)
Teach Your Children - Suzy Bogguss, Kathy Mattea, Crosby, Stills & Nash
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#124. To: christine (#123)
Beautiful happy rendition by a couple of real aryan princesses....... wait a minute, is that John Tesh on pedal steel???
#125. To: Katniss, X-15, 4 (#110)
I realize that any time you see a black person it spells trouble for you, but these kids didn't seem to be problematic besides perhaps only minor stuff.
#126. To: X-15 (#111)
Oh, is that what this discussion is about? I'm sorry, I thought that it was about a cop(s) gone mental. My bad. So yeah, let's let the cops go mental on anyone that they want because of your racist views. Got it. Any solution should involve the parents of those black youth getting thumped real hard for raising mouthy little pieces of shit. I've got no sympathy for any of the blacks involved, they've wore out their welcome in America.
#127. To: X-15 (#112)
Texas has a target on it because: 1. It was a part of the Confederacy. That grudge will never go away. 2. Texas never experience the diversity of a good, wholesome black riot back in the 1960's. That chaps "their" hide to this day. You're confused brother. I'm sorry, I missed the parts of blacks in the streets of a pool party near McKinney with torches and desirous of burning down houses. Again, brilliant thinking there Einstein, let's let the cops nullify the Constitution de facto, break the same laws that they are put in place to enforce, and arbitrarily go mental and psycho on people behaving civilly. Yeah, what an absolutely brilliant idea. As I said, you are blinded by your racist views to the extent that you're willing to cut off your arm to spite your hand. I don't think I've ever read such repetitive foolishness here before. You'd willingly allow a black mob to torch your home/car while the cops look on? I think not.
#128. To: Katniss (#127)
You sound like Sharpton.... As I said, you are blinded by your racist views
#129. To: X-15 (#107)
I do not waste good effort reading or posting to...black/whites. A black/white is the scum of society.
#130. To: NeoconsNailed (#124)
it looks like it is John Tesh.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#131. To: All (#130)
Former officer & attorney Pete Schulte answers some questions about the McKinney pool party investigation. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152865431452093&set=vb.172530812092&type=2&theater
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#132. To: christine (#120) (Edited)
I've watched that video in that spot about 50 times and I don't see anyone doing anything that is remotely threatening to the cop let alone anyone who looks like he is about to pull... BTW, even Mark Fuhrman couldn't excuse what this cop did...
--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...
#133. To: christine, 4 (#131)
www.facebook.com/video.ph...2530812092&type=2&theater
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#134. To: war (#132)
Agree, the cop acted like he wanted to create a disturbance from the instant that he arrived there. Out of control.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#135. To: Lod (#134)
Despite some rhetorical posturing on unnamed chit chat rooms, I really am willing to give cops some amount of quarter when it comes to crowd control...this guy was just clueless...in fact, it should be shown in every academy how not to control a crowd. Look, this cop may be great at 99% of the aspects of policing...this certainly falls in to that 1%... Agree, the cop acted like he wanted to create a disturbance from the instant that he arrived there.
--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...
#136. To: Lod (#133) (Edited)
Thanks for that news video coverage. Seems to be a fair assessment of what happened from what I've read about this incident. Folks at the tavern last night were on both sides of the fence on this. i.e. Those kids should listen to the cops (most of them did)...to, That pig is out of control (I took that side). Edit: I added a few oink oinks to liven the discussion.
#137. To: Fred Mertz (#136)
Ha... Edit: I added a few oink oinks to liven the discussion.
--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...
#138. To: All (#134)
The approved way to remove 100+ unwanted fatherless gums from a private pool is what?
#139. To: Katniss (#127)
Those black kids were out of control. If you are in denial about that, then that's on you. I don't think you live on MLK Blvd, nor would you stroll down any MLK Blvd at midnight, so check yourself. Black youth gathered in a mob without adult supervision is a recipe for disaster and you damn well know it so get off of your high horse. go mental and psycho on people behaving civilly.
-Alex Kurtagic
#140. To: All (#133)
here's the girl that hosted the party -
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#141. To: Jethro Tull, TV educated (#138)
Asking that question of brainwashed, programmed and TV educated people on 4um is the ultimate in hyperbole. The approved way to remove 100+ unwanted fatherless gums from a private pool is what?
#142. To: Jethro Tull (#138) (Edited)
Beseech them to "In the name of His Holiness, Martin Luther King, I implore you to cease your raucous shindig and Please disperse after properly gathering up your belongings and depositing all trash in the provided receptacles. In His name, Amen". And hope to hell that they will listen?? One reason, among many, that DFW never experienced riots was a heavy-handed police presence who have never tolerated any BS from "them". That's just the way it is here. When I was about 12 my Dad told my brother and I about cops having "throw- downs" and what that was all about and to obey what they tell us to do when out away from the house. Dad only had to tell us that ONCE and neither of us ever questioned his wisdom.
-Alex Kurtagic
#143. To: Lod (#140)
She wasn't a host. She wasn't a guest. She's a street nog who tweets out impromptu rave parties.
#144. To: X-15, Cynicom, 4 (#142)
There is absolutely no pleasant way to chase a pack of nogs. It can't be done. Period, end of story. One reason, among many, that DFW never experienced riots was a heavy-handed police presence who have never tolerated any BS from "them". That's just the way it is here.
#145. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#144)
My Dad chased single ones down over in Germany who went AWOL (not his primary duty, just helping the MP), that was enough for him. He said they weren't concerned over a dishonorable discharge after a court-martial because they were too stupid to realize the consequences of their actions.
-Alex Kurtagic
#146. To: Lod (#140)
#147. To: X-15, Jethro Tull (#145)
I was in military for awhile, had to ax people what in hell is the Mo-Po.
#148. To: Jethro Tull (#144)
Here's a HUGE problem, it starts with Dad-as-the-idiot: But Jahda Bakari, 13, who lives in Craig Ranch, said there were no drugs or alcohol at the party, which had been planned for several weeks and was promoted on social media. Initially, most of the teens at the party were from Craig Ranch or nearby neighborhoods, she said. “The party was mainly black kids,” she said. “We all knew each other.” Jahda said tensions escalated when uninvited teenagers began jumping the fence to get into the party and police responded. Her father, Jahi Bakari, said he understood why some of the partygoers reacted to the police with alarm. Bakari said he tells his children to run from the police if they haven’t done anything wrong, because of concerns about police brutality. “The kids saw four police cars, and they started running,” he said. “Being a black youth today in this climate, after Ferguson and Baltimore, I would’ve done the same — I tell them, ‘You see the cops, you go.’ There’s nothing but bad things that can possibly happen. This is a case of truth right here.” http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/mckinney/headlines/20150608- dueling-views-of-mckinney-melee-fault-intruding-teens-racist-adults-police- officer.ece
-Alex Kurtagic
#149. To: X-15 (#145)
Your dad was right. And every black guy I worked with in Brooklyn North would agree. These thuggies embarrassed decent blacks, but apparently they don't have that effect on some whites. In short order this mess will be visited on all of us and we have ourselves to thank for allowing the media to manipulate matters.
#150. To: X-15 (#148)
When I was a kid I'd be more scared of my daddy after acting like a little asshole.
#151. To: X-15 (#142)
And in spite of all the MLK force-feeding that goes on every day, half the younger people there would probably say..... "Who dat?" MLK was all for nonviolence. You know, just like Jues are peace loving, shalom shalom. Beseech them to "In the name of His Holiness, Martin Luther King, I implore you to cease your raucous shindig and Please disperse after properly gathering up your belongings and depositing all trash in the provided receptacles. In His name, Amen".
#152. To: Jethro Tull (#150)
I dreaded going home after screwing up and another adult saying "I'll call your Dad tonight!".
-Alex Kurtagic
#153. To: Jethro Tull (#149)
Who called the police?
#154. To: Cynicom, X-15, 4 (#153)
I'm not sure who initially called the police. I'll see if I can get that info. In the meantime, the above woman was the victim of an assault and now her safety is in jeopardy. If this were my daughter/wife she'd have me as an armed escort to & from work, and YES! I'd pull my gun out as needed. It's about time for some dopey whites to stand up to this black intimidation. 
#155. To: Jethro Tull (#138)
I don't get why some people are getting all worked up over this. Nobody got hurt. Nobody went to jail. The cops went home safe and the nigger kids lived to chimp another day. "No Niggers were injured while filming this video."
#156. To: Obnoxicated (#155)
I agree. We've entered an age where a cropped Youtube can give the nogs & their sympathizers a case of the shits.
#157. To: Obnoxicated, jethro tull (#155)
================================================ Nobody was necessarily 'worked up' over the initial (very stupid) series of events. Minor league duldrum, actually. What we were waiting for was 'the next shoe' to drop, and what the usual instigators would drum up afterwords. And it will be interesting on WHO called the cops on the first call, and how the usual instigators play this (dead issue) even out. I don't get why some people are getting all worked up over this. Nobody got hurt. Nobody went to jail. The cops went home safe and the nigger kids lived to chimp another day.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#158. To: Jethro Tull (#154)
some data from twitter, a cop I know posted it https://twitter.com/eBama/status/608099290842583040 Here is Sean Toon the man who called 911 in #McKinney. He has a long wrap sheet including animal abuse. pic.twitter.com/vOYXT3hq5M— eSHEIKH (@eBama) June 9, 2015 Protest. McKinney. pic.twitter.com/TjbyqabNJ8— deraymckesson(@deray) June 9, 2015I'm not sure who initially called the police. I'll see if I can get that info. In the meantime
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#159. To: Obnoxicated (#155)
I feel the same way. today in the internet age the most mundane event which years ago would never have been known by anyone is spread worldwide in seconds,. this is not a bad thing, but it magnifies irrelevant things to a level they don't often deserve. but even here on 4um, you have the cop defenders and the cop critics, yadda yadda yadda back and forth, and I'm wondering, who really gives a shit, how does this effect any of our lives? what is the point of all this? I guess it's a way to pass the time before we're six feet under. I don't get why some people are getting all worked up over this
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#160. To: Artisan (#158)
I've been told the kid who made the vid called 911.
#161. To: Jethro Tull, christine, 4um (#160)
I miss the "Market Wrap-Up" threads.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#162. To: Cynicom (#153)
In my best Hillary voice, "What difference does it make?" I agree, this is soap opera news, and this is my 2d and final response to it. I hope. Who called the police?
#163. To: Esso (#161)
I'm afraid a market wrap-up thread these days would have me on suicide watch. It's best that I hold & ignore.
#164. To: Artisan (#159)
""how does this effect any of our lives?"" Not at all if one so desires. There are a few that view the future with alarm. Who are these "alarmists"? Mostly those not educated by TV. but even here on 4um, you have the cop defenders and the cop critics, yadda yadda yadda back and forth, and I'm wondering, who really gives a shit, how does this effect any of our lives? what is the point of all this?
#165. To: Cynicom (#164)
Who are these "alarmists"? Mostly those not educated by TV. Ive seen a lot of alarmism since I was a kid and the alarm rarely if ever goes off. I think alarmism or fatalism is sort of like adrenalin, like a junkie enjoys their fix. ive come across probably more rotten cops than most people, and am more confrontative than most, but I don't think cops are all bad, or all good. its just not that relevant to watch stories like this all day every week, every month, . it gets boring. but to each their own.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#166. To: Artisan (#165)
That leaves the TV educated segment, the brainwashed and programmed. Most are unable to overcome that disability. Blend in hate for those people and a lemming is born. I think alarmism or fatalism is sort of like adrenalin, like a junkie enjoys their fix.
#167. To: Artisan (#165)
This scares me more than a little bit, the increasing chance of it happening in North Texas is unacceptable.
-Alex Kurtagic
#168. To: X-15 (#167)
Any idea what took the guy down?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#169. To: X-15 (#167)
Look for it in all 4 cardinal points and the middle -- soon. These bastards mean business. We, the people, don't very much.
#170. To: X-15 (#139) (Edited)
High horse? That's hilarious for someone that condemns anything just because a black person is involved. Perhaps you should take your own suggestions. Otherwise, I didn't see anything out of control with them anymore than with anyone else in that video. If there's other video, post it. Nothing I've read suggests any different either. Absolutely nowhere did we read "blacks crash white pool party" and it was clear that at least some of those white kids knew some of the black ones. Look, I realize that there are problems beyond problems in black communities and within the black demographic, but where I live there are quite a few intelligent and civil black people. Unlike you, everytime one happens to be in a video I don't blame the black community at large for any and all problems associated with it. Otherwise, you in your brilliance, once again, completely missed the point. Completely. As such, just remember, if/when the cops go psycho on you, just STFU and suck, be the man that you seem to think that you are, and suck it up. If you're going to defend that behavior, and you have and are simply due to your racist views, then I have no idea why you're even here. Those black kids were out of control. If you are in denial about that, then that's on you. I don't think you live on MLK Blvd, nor would you stroll down any MLK Blvd at midnight, so check yourself. Black youth gathered in a mob without adult supervision is a recipe for disaster and you damn well know it so get off of your high horse.
#171. To: Artisan (#159)
For me it's just one more example of how uncivil our society has gotten. Part of me still cannot believe that cops behave like this, and as I stated before, it's clearly epidemic. Why can't they behave like decent and civil human beings? It's because the establishment does not want them to. You are correct that we cannot do anything about it, but we can ask what the point of anyone posting here on any topic then is, right. After all, we really have no ability to change much of anything that's discussed here. We discuss it to vent and hopefully to make a few others aware of the problematic nature of it all that will quite likely impact them one day too. Funny too, many people that think it's no big deal all of a sudden do a 180 when it happens to them. But how can they then expect others to see it their way if everyone must first be personally impacted prior to getting it. You're right though, and on that note, once again I find myself questioning why I waste any time at all here. but even here on 4um, you have the cop defenders and the cop critics, yadda yadda yadda back and forth, and I'm wondering, who really gives a shit, how does this effect any of our lives? what is the point of all this?
#172. To: Artisan (#165)
I've come across more than my share as well. And even 25 years ago I cannot recall any that ever approached me without assuming that I was doing something illegal, yet, I've never even been arrested, not even once. I also find that when I give it back them, sternly but professionally, they typically back down. Is this what cops are supposed to be/do? I don't think so. If they focused on actual stuff instead of making shit up then this world and country would be a far far better place. As to good/bad cops, again, there are two sayings that the establishment absolutely loves to spout off, but which they themselves seem to believe that they're exempt from: Not saying "no" is just like saying "yes." ... and ... If you see something, say something. Cops and LE want everyone else to do those things, but when it comes to them they want us to shut up and keep it to ourselves. Again, once these so-called "good cops" begin to police their own, pun intended, then perhaps people won't paint the entire corrupt group with the broad brush that they've earned. Today I think I'd shit my pants in sheer and utter disbelief if ever a cop walked by me said "hi" and smiled. ive come across probably more rotten cops than most people, and am more confrontative than most, but I don't think cops are all bad, or all good. its just not that relevant to watch stories like this all day every week, every month, . it gets boring. but to each their own.
#173. To: Lod, Pinguinite (#133)
how did you get it to hyperlink? the auto feature isn't working for me!
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#174. To: christine (#173)
As always, I deleted the "s". 4um don't do secure linking.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#175. To: X-15 (#167) (Edited)
This scares me even more, sitting in a restaurant, minding my own fucking business, while the cops take a break and allow it to happen when if they had done their fucking jobs everyone there would have been safe. This is the part that you seem to be willfully oblivious to. And where were our heroes? Not a one in fucking sight! Too dangerous for our law-enforcing heroes apparently. I've been in those restaurants, there's absolutely no alternate way out of there. This scares me more than a little bit, the increasing chance of it happening in North Texas is unacceptable.
#176. To: Katniss (#170)
Fuck off, dick. More than ample facts have been offered that the black "youth" were out-of-control, your blindness to that is your problem.
-Alex Kurtagic
#177. To: Lod, X-15 (#174)
oh..I keep forgetting that.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#178. To: X-15 (#176)
A black/white is not a rational person, akin to the cockroach that hides in the darkness. They are known by their "droppings" and smell. We have several here.
#179. To: christine, Penguinite, 4 (#173)
kinda like the Auto-categorize feature has NEVER worked. We don't need that "feature", imo the auto feature isn't working for me!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#180. To: X-15 (#176)
I haven't seen any of it. You haven't anted up when I've asked for it. Instead you just run off at the mouth in your racist ways. Sorry, but that doesn't help. Either way, clearly you're too stupid and far from intelligent enough to be able to sort through the differences in what I'm actually talking about. Then you sit there and scratch your noggin as to why problems in our country exist with attitudes and the complete lack of ability to dissect a situation and properly analyze it. No wonder we're fucked, take a good long look in the mirror and you'll see a part of the problem intellectually speaking. Either way, you're a full blown racist. Your breakdown and inability to process anything that I've said precedes you. Like most Americans, and the cops, your rage precedes you! Like I said, when they come for you, just sit back, STFU, and tell yourself that you've invited it. The nice thing, for you, is that you'll be in very good company. If I don't respond to you anymore it's because I've put you on ignore and really don't want to hear anymore of your racist views. Fuck off, dick. More than ample facts have been offered that the black "youth" were out-of-control, your blindness to that is your problem.
#181. To: christine (#173)
I believe web sites have to begin with "http:" in order for auto hyperlinking to work. As I recall, programming it to auto hyperlink anything that contains a ".com" in it made too subject to hyperlinking things that were not supposed to be hyperlinks. So if you add "http://" in front of a web address, it should auto hyperlink just fine.
#182. To: Pinguinite, X-15 (#181)
thanks, Neil. Lod had told me that before and I forgot. ;) Mike, FYI.
Truth is still truth even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.
#183. To: christine (#182)
Forgive if this is a repeat of others' stuff -- I simply can't keep up with these huge long threads -- but here (courtesy of the fabulous Nutty News Today) is what purports to be a first-hand account: Links to this -- do threats and abuse against the officer by outright "Marxist- Leninist-Maoists" color the scene any particular way? The first article doesn't seem to have comments, the 2nd does -- re the 1st.
#184. To: Katniss (#180)
You are ten times more disturbed by the term 'nigger' than by what niggers do. If you think that I should be an anarchist and totally shun ALL police, then Fuck You again. Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, ace.
-Alex Kurtagic
#185. To: Katniss (#170)
Thinking back, I've always had the ability to have a rational two-way conversation with every cop I've ever met, even the ones who I disagreed with. Of course, I don't run my mouth against them and spout "I'm a sovereign citizen!!" and other bullshit. And that's right here in North Texas with all of the heavy-handed RACIST police who were tobacco-chewing rednecks and every other stereotype you can assign to them. Those "youth" at that neighborhood were NOT INVITED and were TRESPASSING and were ENTITLED BRATS who should have been beat with rubber hoses in front of their parents. As such, just remember, if/when the cops go psycho on you,
-Alex Kurtagic
#186. To: Cynicom, X-15 (#178)
Just another rancid White Guilter. 
#187. To: Jethro Tull (#186)
-Alex Kurtagic
#188. To: X-15 (#185) (Edited)
I think I like your answer best out of the 187. You've had better cops to deal with -- being "racist" normally gives people a virtual PhD in one of the most crucial subject affecting any society! But I will say much of the time I to have managed an adult conversation with cops when pulled over. Suspect this results in more warnings (less tickets) than some approaches. Yeah, it's partly luck. Ann Coulter puts this McKinney business nicely in context: http://freedomsback.com/ann-coulter/immigration-hey-look-a-cop-yelling-at-a- black-girl-in-a-bikini/ The media are indeed criminal on this. The make such a story the Second Coming while ignoring much more substantive and ominous police brutality going on every day.
#189. To: Jethro Tull, x-15, neoconsnailed, katniss (#186)
Did y'all hear the update to this story? The cops lawyer said he apologized and sorry this reflected badly on his dept, said he was emotional and "had been on two suicide calls" that day which affected "his mental state" ! He resigned.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#190. To: Artisan (#189)
Ha. Big deal. Thats what the thug gets paid for and to steal apples. Put him in stocks on the street corner, make an example of him. "had been on two suicide calls" that day which affected "his mental state" ! He resigned.
#191. To: NeoconsNailed (#188)
What do you mean by that? For myself, as I explained to lod in another thread, I've never been offended by racial names. Growing up I saw a lot of nigger shit firsthand, and back then we called it for what it is. I've told some of the stories here. I'm not afraid to call a nigger a nigger. However, I don't believe all blacks are niggers. I've had black roomates and coworkers both male and female and had no problems related to race. As a Christian I believe that every human is created in the image and likeness of God & that we should love one another, (but that doesn't mean being reginald denny'd by a mob of crazed niggers during a riot).it would not be immoral in the least to mow em down if necessary to save your life. being "racist" normally gives people a virtual PhD in one of the most crucial subject affecting any society!
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#192. To: Artisan (#191)
Amen, and well said. As a Christian I believe that every human is created in the image and likeness of God & that we should love one another, (but that doesn't mean being reginald denny'd by a mob of crazed niggers during a riot).it would not be immoral in the least to mow em down if necessary to save your life.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#193. To: Artisan (#191)
Amen. From the balcony. One cannot discuss such with a racist black/white. As a Christian I believe that every human is created in the image and likeness of God & that we should love one another, (but that doesn't mean being reginald denny'd by a mob of crazed niggers during a riot).it would not be immoral in the least to mow em down if necessary to save your life.
#194. To: Cynicom, lod (#193)
1992 the day of the rodney king riots my oldest sis lived on catalina island and was scheduled to take the boat to san pedro.to visit. I had to drive thru COMPTON to pick her up. I stopped by my folks house and my other sis, her boyfriend, my mom, dad and I watched on live tv reginald denny get his brqains bashed in. They were ozzing out onto the street!! Ill never forget it! And I had to drive thru that??? I had no qualms about mowing such MFers down if need be. Made it there safe and sound but everyone I know carried in their car for weeks afterwards.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#195. To: Artisan, Lod (#194)
Tolerance has its limits. Whites are automatically "intolerant" and people of color have their "rights". From experience, over a long life and living in major cities, blacks in particular are taught hatred.
#196. To: Artisan (#189)
He was given two options, 1) resign, or 2) be brought up on charges and tried, with the outcome per-determined. He made the right call, and speaking of calls, good luck to the decent citizens of McKinney should they become victims of little nigger bastards who decide to invade their property uninvited. The police response time will be a lot slower. See the Ferguson Effect. Did y'all hear the update to this story? The cops lawyer said he apologized and sorry this reflected badly on his dept, said he was emotional and "had been on two suicide calls" that day which affected "his mental state" ! He resigned.
#197. To: All (#194)
By the way that oldest sis, who in high school had been attacked by mobs of niggers who jumped on hef white gremlin screaming get whitey (she has blonde hair too) this was during alex haleys ROOTS mimiseries, kunte kinta and all that. When she saw all the rodney king riots on tv in catalina she cancelled her trip, but the phone lines were down so she couldn't get a call thru. I have many more nigger stores like the time they robbed my lemonade stand and we chased them down, Or the time me and larry were chased by niggers, we split up but they caught him. My dog pepper (half coyote) warded them off. Even tho larry wasn't her owner, pepper protected him! My middle sis was accosted by niggers on haloween, they punched her in the stomach and stole her pillow case plum full of candy. Ill never forget my brawler brothers formed a posse to hunt theculprits down. I could actually write a book on niggers! The late 1970s early 80s was a rough time in L.A. That is why I know what I nigger is and call a spaide a spaide!
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#198. To: Artisan (#197)
Today's Progressive Movement will make the 70s look like child's play. Cops today, Christians tomorrow, Whites in general going forward. You're looking at raw communism and any study of the history of national transformation should curl the hairs on the back of your neck. I could actually write a book on niggers! The late 1970s early 80s was a rough time in L.A.
#199. To: Artisan (#197)
Damn. You have more gum stories than Uncle Remus.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#200. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#198)
Although no smarter, Texas' gums all in all seem more restrained than those raised elsewhere. Am I reading this incorrectly?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#201. To: Lod (#200)
I think you're right, however, the cadre of professional street agitators that rolled into McKinney spelled real trouble. They were the same Soros sponsored bums who did Ferguson & Baltimore. I only wish Whites were allowed to organize like that but we'd be arrested upon arrival.
#202. To: Artisan (#189)
Investigating two dead, messy bodies can't be fun. "had been on two suicide calls" that day which affected "his mental state"
-Alex Kurtagic
#203. To: Artisan (#191)
I meant of course that being racially aware and realistic makes one a hell of a lot smarter with no extra schooling than those who embrace PC and pretend to believe all races are exactly equal except for skin color. Must have misread #186.
#204. To: Artisan (#189)
Good. Big deal tho. He's just one of tens of thousdands that are emotionally and mentally unfit to hold such a position. He should be prosecuted too. Naturally that won't happen. Did y'all hear the update to this story? The cops lawyer said he apologized and sorry this reflected badly on his dept, said he was emotional and "had been on two suicide calls" that day which affected "his mental state" ! He resigned.
#205. To: Artisan (#191)
Unless I missed something, and I watched all videos presented, I didn't see any "crazed mob of niggers." In fact, I saw plenty of non-blacks too. What I saw was something that would have been dispersed simply by the cops showing up, as appeared to be happening, in the old days, with the cops not chasing anyone, not shouting obscenities demonstrating that they've lost all personal control and have no discipline. I saw a simple problem whose outcome was exasperated and the situation worsened by the cops' actions. Again, if I missed something please post it. As a Christian I believe that every human is created in the image and likeness of God & that we should love one another, (but that doesn't mean being reginald denny'd by a mob of crazed niggers during a riot).it would not be immoral in the least to mow em down if necessary to save your life.
#206. To: Katniss (#205)
I wasn't even referring to this incident specifically, and I haven't even watched the vid. I was referring to my experience with blacks in general as all my stories, pro and con, brought me to my position. You see, I sort of see both sides here. On the one hand, you know I'm not a white separatist . Although that's their peogative as people thru the ages stick to their own and there's nothing wrong with it. Hatred of other races, on the other hand, as I said above, is sinful in Christianity. The term nigger to me means a black thug, just as cholo for a mexican thug or mafio.so for italian thug. These terms simply don't bother me as they do some, #1 because I'm not afraid of words or opinions, #2 because of my experience in this matter I know all about niggers, and I don't like them, and the title sometimes fits. I assume that the people here with these what appear to be anti black views have a deeply ingrained life experience which resulted in their opinions. I would love to know what those experinces were, because I find it interesting, but not too many people are like me and always like to tell personal stories. LoL.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#207. To: Artisan (#206)
I enjoy reading your stories, Artisan. Keep 'em coming, please! but not too many people are like me and always like to tell personal stories. LoL.
#208. To: Artisan (#206)
Now and again, on forums such as this, there appears people that are either black or black/whites, to whom race is either lifes passion or they are paid race baiters. Hate is their game. I assume that the people here with these what appear to be anti black views have a deeply ingrained life experience which resulted in their opinions. I would love to know what those experinces were, because I find it interesting, but not too many people are like me and always like to tell personal stories. LoL.
#209. To: StraitGate, lod, jethro tull, katniss, christine, titorite (#207) (Edited)
Thanks! Before I was into 911 and politics and the horror of the NWO, I had quite a following with a colum I wrote in the 90s called the weekly gripe report. I was new to the internet and developed quite a following and then started a radio show at a small station in hollywood , it was called the gripe show. During that time I did a great interview with a vietnam vet which would make anyone cry, wow and that is when I covered the los angeles laker championship (the first in their string after many years of losses) I interviewed many celebs there and then in the finale the lapd actually started this riot. The news said that rowdy hooligans started it but that is bogus. Now mind you id never have believed this shit if I hadn't been there, I still have it all on tape. It actually changed my life. And 2 months after that was the national democratic convention in LA at the staples center (same place as the lakers cop riot) so this time I began to sniff out the rot of the lapd because I knew how dirty they were firsthand. They started riots there too. Only one year later was 9/ 11, and these two events actually prepared my foundational understanding to see 9/11 for what it really was, in october 2001: One of these days ill post the show. I called lapd live on air and they denied all of it and I interspeersed the audio of them making me and 50 other bystanders, including guests of the Indiana Pacer NBA players, close to a burning nbc news van. Who the fuck would go ten feet away from a van engulfed in flames?? I was so red hot pissed at these evil lying monsters it was unreal. True first hand account of the so-called Lakers 'riot', ten years ago: LAPD started it http://libertyfight.com/archives/2010/Lakers_riot_june_2000_cops_started _it.html I enjoy reading your stories, Artisan. Keep 'em coming, please!
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#210. To: Artisan (#209)
libertyfight.com/archives/2010/ Lakers_riot_june_2000_cops_started_it.html For me, this link is whacked.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#211. To: Lod (#210) (Edited)
this will work http://libertyfight.com/archives/2010/Lakers_riot_june_2000_cops_started _it.html
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#212. To: Artisan (#206)
These terms simply don't bother me as they do some, #1 because I'm not afraid of words or opinions, #2 because of my experience in this matter I know all about niggers, and I don't like them, and the title sometimes fits. I assume that the people here with these what appear to be anti black views have a deeply ingrained life experience which resulted in their opinions. I would love to know what those experinces were, because I find it interesting, but not too many people are like me and always like to tell personal stories. LoL. I agree with that generally. The difference is that this thread is about that video. I'm curious what you think of it. Because some comments were made about the blacks in it, but in the beginning as everyone starts running, it's blatant that there were plenty of white kids too. Which is why I'm perplexed at some of the response. All I'm told is "what happened prior to that," but when I ask where they got their info they provide none validating "what happened prior to that" to only implicate the black kids here. In fact, the black kids seem quite well spoken, not like black kids from a highly problematic area or cultural background. That's my issue. The blacks in Baltimore, yes, that's one thing, thugs. The ones here I just didn't see it, and sure as hell not to the point where a cop twice the size and infinitely more body-armored that a teen girl in a bikini not even with shoes, had to be taken down and have the swine's knee shoved into her back for "not doing what he said." That does not command respect. It's fear, really TERROR driven tactic, which imo makes him more of a terror-ist than the type of cop that's good for a civil, decent, and humane society. You see, I sort of see both sides here. On the one hand, you know I'm not a white separatist . Although that's their peogative as people thru the ages stick to their own and there's nothing wrong with it. Hatred of other races, on the other hand, as I said above, is sinful in Christianity. The term nigger to me means a black thug, just as cholo for a mexican thug or mafio.so for italian thug.
#213. To: Artisan (#209) (Edited)
You know what's funny about that, if you tell the average American that, what we know, they consider you to be nuts. The Point: Works like a charm
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