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Title: Open carry of firearms, Things to consider
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URL Source: http://www.crimefilenews.com/2015/0 ... rry-of-firearms-things-to.html
Published: Jun 9, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-06-09 16:18:54 by christine
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Views: 602
Comments: 31

Houston, TX—Like many people I believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. There is no question in my mind that Americans have the absolute right to keep and carry arms everywhere. Politicians and some courts differ with this as they attempt to violate Americans rights under color of law.

Saying that, mentioning the foolishness of civilians openly carrying firearms must be discussed and debated. The debate about the law here is long over for me. Open carry or any carry is the law of the land. The debate about the wisdom of open carrying in an urban setting must continue.

Just because you can carry openly should you?

I say that open carry is incredibly problematic and will put you in prison or worse! Let’s begin with the worse. If you’re carrying a gun for personal and family security doing that openly, deprives you of the element surprise needed to survive a violent event. Even worse, experienced violent criminals can be counted upon to attempt to strong-arm you for your weapon. The tactical disadvantages of open carry are huge.

Other challenges are laid out like mines in a minefield. I’ve seen the fallout of open carry first hand. Here are just some scenarios:

A gun rights hater sees you with your gun and calls 911. The story this jerk tells is exaggerated in many different ways because the caller wants to see the police confront you and your gun. The 911 caller will say, “the guy appears drugged up or drunk” or “The guy looks mean and angry and has his hand on the gun!” or “The guy is paying quick draw in the street!” The police can be counted on to treat the call like it is valid and the potential for disaster here is enormous.

Then there is the town troublemaker who will see your weapon and will try to aggravate you and instigate to the point where something stupid happens. Last but not least is the malicious person that you may or may not know. He or she wants to see you in jail and calls 911 saying, “there’s a guy with a gun and he pointed at me and threatened to shoot me!” The police arrive and see you carrying the gun as described. With a complainant that continues with this lie the police have absolute probable cause to arrest you for a felony crime of Aggravated Assault.

They will arrest you, seize your gun and you will spend the next year of your life fighting the lie in court. Between the huge cost for bail and lawyers, even if you win in court you lose. Yes, I’ve seen innocent people sent to prison for as much as seven years this way.

If you are arrested for Aggravated Assault there is an 80% chance you will be convicted. Innocence is really irrelevant in today’s American courtrooms. If you are discreet and keep your weapon concealed you can avoid so many real booby traps that can kill you or ruin your life. Why would you take the unnecessary risks of open carry?

Saying all of that there are places where open carry is not a problem Events like those put on by SASS (Single Action Shooting Society) or for filmmaking. I simply ask you to think before you place yourself in harm’s way by openly carrying.


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#11. To: christine (#0)

This article is full of alarmist bullshit.

Period.

Here's how things actually work in the real world.

The state you live in, affects whether or not you can or cannot open carry, with or without a permit.

If you have a permit where I live, you may carry concealed, or you may open carry. I myself do not have a preference. The fact that I carry is my business and not something that affects others, because in just about every instance that someone takes notice of my firearm, nobody has said or done anything to make me hostile.

I have had on more than one occasion had a gas station attendant stop my pump so that I could come inside, which sent a pack of teen thugs scurrying because they thought 5-O was on the scene.

I have had one instance where a police officer was called to where I was with a "Man With A Gun" scenario. When he showed up, he went inside the gas station to talk to the person that called, then walked out and talked to me. When he told me what was up I was quite surprised, as I hadn't seen any crazy person with a gun. When he told me that I was the person they called about, he thought it was funny because at first glance, he thought I was an undercover cop.

He was very nice to me, and he had no issues with carry permit holders exercising their god given right to self defense. You are going to find that nearly every cop on the planet believes that way. The only ones who don't are the ones who have something to be scared of.

If you do indeed brandish a firearm and scare someone, then yes you will go to jail. The problem with that is, you have to have proof. Witnesses who are credible who see you do it, or video. Video is always best for the police. Otherwise the police when they roll up, if they have no proof, they can't do anything to you.

Now, if they suspect you of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs, then yes you are going to jail. If you are carrying you cannot, ABSOLUTELY Cannot avoid being tested.

As far as the other bullshit where you have the gangster who wants to take your gun, if you are aware of your surroundings, you will know immediately who is and who is not looking to rob you. Thugs travel in packs. The lone nut who is going to try and take your gun, will stand out because you will literally feel their eyes on you.

I think that this article makes way too much of things that can go wrong, when a novice is carrying.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2015-06-10   11:22:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#11)

This article is full of alarmist bullshit.

Given the number of states where OC is currently not subject to LE persecution, I'd say you're right. Either there's wholesale censorship on the topic, or there's an astounding lack of stories regarding open carry incidents. I doesn't seem to be much of a problem or the generally anti-gun press would be all over it on a daily basis.

It's good to know that OC is available, especially in times of disorder or civil disturbance when abiding by the customary concealment requirements might be burdensome or even dangerous.

Nevertheless, under normal, everyday circumstances, I'd feel like more of a target with a hog leg strapped to my thigh than with a nine in my belt nestled under a vest or jacket. Plus I'd have to trash that nylon thing that doesn't scratch, is easy to clean and doesn't wear the bluing on a piece.

You know for daily wear you're going to have to pay $150 for a decent holster and you're going to have to have both black and brown to match your shoes and accessories.

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#15. To: randge (#14)

I made my own holster. It goes with everything I own.

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#17. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)

I made my own holster.

1. Do you hand-stitch?

2. What's your riveting method?

3. How do you finish edges?

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