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Title: JEB BUSH CALLS FOR ERASING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG - S.C. statehouse fights over Confederate flag controversy
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2015/06 ... rolina-confederate-flag-brawl/
Published: Jun 30, 2015
Author: cbs
Post Date: 2015-06-30 17:45:25 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: confederate flag, FIRST AMENDMENT, jeb bush, civil war
Views: 188
Comments: 13


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Note how the CBS announcer begins the story with how "The South started the civil war.'

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#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, 4 (#0)

Note how the CBS announcer begins the story with

"This morning, the Confederate flag is no longer flying over Fort Sumter, South Carolina,"

Excerpts from usatoday.com June 29, 2015: Confederate flag taken down at Fort Sumter

CHARLESTON, S.C. — The historic site where the first shots of the Civil War were fired is no longer flying versions of the Confederate flag above it.

The U.S. National Park Service ordered all flags except the U.S. flag to be taken down at the Fort Sumter National Monument in Charleston Harbor.

The park service also took down the South Carolina state flag.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-07-01   1:49:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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The park service also took down the South Carolina state flag.

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That was a Federally mandated order.

Has the State voted on it yet?

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-07-01   1:54:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6)

That was a Federally mandated order.

Has the State voted on it yet?

No. Apparently, employees of the Park Service were lawlessly ordered by their Federal commandants to remove the flags, including the State flag of South Carolina. Going all the way back to before the "Civil War", the Federal government had failed to legally fulfill its agreed terms for utilization of Fort Sumter.

tenthamendmentcenter.com: States Don’t Have to Comply: The Anti-Commandeering Doctrine

Most Americans believe that the federal government stands absolutely supreme.

Nobody can question its dictates.

Nobody can refuse its edicts.

Nobody can resist its commands.

This is simply not true.

Laws passed in pursuance of the Constitution do stand as the supreme law of the land. But that doesn’t in any way imply the federal government lords over everything and everybody in America.

First off, as James Madison asserted in Federalist 45, the powers of the federal government are “few and defined.” So federal power actually extends into only a few spheres. Most power and authority was left to the states and the people.

Second, even within those areas that the federal government does exercise authority, it cannot force state or local governments to cooperate in enforcement or implementation. The feds must exercise their authority on their own, unless the state and local governments choose to assist.

Simply put, the federal government cannot force state or local governments to act against their will.

This is known as the anti-commandeering doctrine, and it is well established in constitutional jurisprudence. Four Supreme Court opinions dating back to 1842 serve as the foundation for this legal doctrine.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-07-01   2:37:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Going all the way back to before the "Civil War", the Federal government had failed to legally fulfill its agreed terms for utilization of Fort Sumter.

Fort Sumter - Wikipedia

It was one of a number of special forts planned after the war of 1812, combining high walls and heavy masonry, and classified as Third System, as a grade of structural integrity. Work started in 1829, but was incomplete by 1860, when South Carolina seceded from the Union.

Named after [Brigadier] General Thomas Sumter, Revolutionary War hero [of South Carolina's Militia], Fort Sumter was built following the War of 1812 as one of a series of fortifications on the southern U.S. coast to protect the harbors. Construction began in 1829 and the structure was still unfinished in 1861, when the Civil War began.

The Confederate Reprint Company: Confederate Books, Southern Heritage Books, Confederate Flags, Civil War Books

What is not generally known is that South Carolina had freely ceded property in Charleston Harbor to the federal Government in 1805 [My note: for defense of the States and their Freedom, not the unified-in-fealty to D.C. autocrats], upon the express condition that "the United States... within three years... repair the fortifications now existing thereon or build such other forts or fortifications as may be deemed most expedient by the Executive of the United States on the same, and keep a garrison or garrisons therein." Failure to comply with this condition on the part of the Government would render "this grant or cession... void and of no effect." The State then appointed commissioners and paid for the land to be surveyed out of its own treasury. Work on Fort Sumter did not begin until 1829 and had still not been completed by 1860. Unfinished and [essentially] unoccupied for over thirty years [except for a few laborers/inspectors at times and, iirc, a lighthouse operator], the terms of the cession were clearly not fulfilled.

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