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Business/Finance See other Business/Finance Articles Title: Are Americans really Legally Piggybacking “Canadian Social Security?” Does Lifetime Income Report have a secret way to "piggyback" and earn "benefits" on the Canada Pension Plan? (Uh, "no" ... but more on that in a moment) Welcome! If you are new to Stock Gumshoe, grab a free membership here and join us to get our free newsletter alerts with new teaser answers and debunkings. Thanks! Not new? Please log in at top right of this page This ad has driven a lot of questions to the Gumshoe doorstep the pitch is from Zachary Scheidt for his Lifetime Income Report, and it implies that we can get extra benefits by piggybacking on the Social Security plan of Canada. Really? Well, no. Not in the way youre thinking. But if you have a very open interpretation of the word piggybacking and are willing to accept an imaginative turn of phrase, there is a little something to the ad. Let me explain. The headline is what really gets peoples attention, I think, that notion that somehow piggybacking Canadas retirement plan is going to get you some benefit checks
Americans Now Legally Piggybacking Canadian Social Security
And Collecting Extra Monthly Benefit Checks From $400 to $4,700" And no, youre not going to get that. You cant get benefits from the Canada Pension Plan (thats what they call their social security system) unless you pay into it while youre working in Canada in broad strokes, its not too different from the US Social Security program. But you can, kinda, copy them. If you want to. Thats a big difference, no? Imitating someone, versus collecting checks from them? Ill explain a bit more in a moment, but first I have to share with you just a bit more of the misleading teaser pitch heres the part about why youd want to piggyback on Canadas scheme: I recently heard some fascinating claims about a potential loophole in the Canada Pension Plan
Irregulars Quick Take Paid members get a quick summary of the stocks teased and our thoughts here. Join as a Stock Gumshoe Irregular today (already a member? log in at top right) A loophole that allows Americans of any location, age or income level to begin collecting work-free income checks running from $400 to $4,700 per month. The Canada Pension Plan in case you didnt already know is the Canadian equivalent of the Social Security system we have here in the States
except for a few key differences. Unlike American Social Security (which is run by overpaid government bureaucrats), the Canadian variety is managed by a highly skilled team of professional investors. Also, unlike American Social Security (which you and I both know is a system thats running on fumes), the Canadians have managed to more than DOUBLE their reserves since 2004. In fact, from the projections Ive seen
reserves for the Canada Pension Plan are set to QUADRUPLE by 2040 (which, ironically, is the same time when most experts believe American Social Security will be completely bankrupt). All that is pretty much true the Canada Pension Plan does really include a distinct account, and it is managed as an investment account like most private sector pension funds, buying up equities and bonds and valuable assets around the world in order to meet their future income obligations. Canadians dont get more retirement income when the pension plan does better, their benefits are set by law and regulatory guidelines in much the same way that US Social Security benefits are set, but they do enjoy a bit more security, perhaps, because they have what I consider a much more viable system. The Canada Pension Plan has probably about a 75-year horizon of reasonably being able to pay expected benefits based on the current contributions and the value of (and returns from) the investment fund, so its not just a pay-as-you-go benefit like Social Security (though the fund only represents a small portion, 20-30%, of future liabilities, the rest is like Social Security and dependent on future contributions), and the government hasnt been using all the cash flow from Canada Pension Plan contributions for other things the Canada Pension Plan, unlike Social Security, is partly in a lockbox, at least for now, and its not just an IOU from the government. But can you piggyback on it? What the heck does that even mean? Scheidt goes through several examples of readers he has talked to who have, or at least so he implies, somehow invested in the Canada Pension Plan
heres one example: As Anne explained, she first discovered about the Canada Pension Plan while living with her husband in Nashua, New Hampshire. Her house was, as she put it, just a stones throw from the Canadian border
and her backyard actually ended at the provincial boundary. But make no mistake about it
Anne has never lived or worked in Canada. She barely even visited our neighbor to the north. So how was she able to piggyback the system? Well, according to Anne, it all has to do with a major change that took place with the Canada Pension Plan back in 1997. I guess a stones throw is a nice colloquialism you can use for any distance, but Nashua, NH is just about a Boston suburb its about as far south as you can get and still be in New Hampshire, so its about a three hour interstate drive to the Canadian border. And apparently Anne has a helluva big yard. But thats not the real point, of course. Yes, 1997 was when Canada reformed the Pension Plan to make it more sustainable basically, they increased the contribution rate by 50% and created that investment fund. The fund is indeed managed with some independence, it is overseen by the semi-independent CPP Investment Board, and it is basically a huge institutional investment fund with about $250 billion under management in the CPP Reserve Fund. I admire the Canadians for doing this, it was an abrupt but probably much healthier solution than simply scooching out the retirement age and increasing contributions and adding taxes here and there as weve done in the US as is typical, US politicians did what voters consistently tell them we want them to do: Put a coat of paint on the problem, and dont make any hard choices. Thats probably not completely fair we did increase Social Security taxes as part of the tax reform program in the early 1980s (not as dramatically as Canada did a decade later), and again very slightly in 1989
but thats about it. But thats not the point, either other than that Zach Scheidt certainly knows that talking about Social Security will get retirees hot and bothered, and getting people hot and bothered is a good way to get them to read your ad, and oh, by the way, the average person who subscribes to an investment newsletter is roughly 60 years old, exactly the person who gets most anxious about Social Security. And nothing about Canadas Pension reform of 1997 had anything at all directly to do with this Anne person unless she was a Canadian citizen. So whats the real story? More from the ad: I began hearing wild rumors about a savvy group of Americans whove figured out a way to legally piggyback the Canada Pension Plan
And collect an additional $400 to $4,700 per month as a result. From what I could gather, these folks were able to do this without living
working
or even traveling to Canada. This, really, is the problem with the ad folks are likely to read that and see words like collect and benefit, but a far more accurate word would be earn. Because all Scheidt is really talking about here is collecting dividends. They dont even have to be Canadian dividends, frankly. And probably most of them arent from Canadian companies. The woman he uses as an example, Anne, provides a few more clues about exactly whats going on underneath this charade of Canadian Social Security Benefits
. Anne didnt invent the loophole, or even discover it for herself. She simply heard about it from a close friend (sort of like how Im telling you today). And since it seemed relatively risk-free and only required a few hundred dollars (and a couple hours of her time) to get started, she figured it was something worth trying. Anne continued to make contributions to the account
which can be done in some cases for what amounts to as little as 50 cents per day. Less than the price of a cheap cup of coffee at the store. She didnt have to renounce her citizenship
or visit a Canadian embassy
or do anything drastic. Today, she collects enough in benefits to do all the extra things she wants
without putting any additional strain on her budget. And the $407 she collects every month from piggybacking barring any unforeseen disaster should continue to roll in for the rest of her life. Whenever a word or phrase appears in quotes in these kinds of teaser ads, like Canadian Social Security or Contributions or Benefits, you can pretty much assume that the quotes mean, look out, Im making stuff up here. What Anne really did, in all likelihood, was set up either a simple brokerage account or a direct stock investment plan (DSPP or DRIP are usually the terms used now, and their primary benefit is that they allow small monthly investments in individual stocks and free dividend reinvestment something that used to be almost impossible before discount brokerages took over a couple decades ago). She either collected the dividends or reinvested them, and she kept buying a bit each month, and she reports those dividends on her taxes just like anyone else, and they provide a nice supplemental bit of income to add to her pension and her (US) Social Security checks. Scheidt says that she reports this Canada Pension Plan benefit on line 9a of her 1040, which is, of course, right where you report your dividend income. What is she earning that dividend income from? That I cant tell you, Scheidt doesnt hint at all about which income investments he suggests, or which ones Anne bought, or what might be the best buys now line 9a is actually for ordinary dividends, not qualified dividends, so it might even be that hes suggesting slightly more traditional income investments like real estate investment trusts (REITs) or bonds, or funds that invest in such assets and which pay fully taxable dividends (as opposed to the qualified dividends that are paid by most normal corporations that arent tax-advantaged entities). Scheidt does go on to get a little bit more clear about this, after talking about the huge asset base managed by the Canada Pension Plan, including investments in hundreds of companies and funds around the world heres how he gets us back to reality at least, for the few intrepid souls who could stand to read this far in the ad:
they strategically invest in companies that are highly profitable
companies that gush large amounts of cash. Like one of my favorite businesses
a company youve probably never heard of before
a company called Realty Income Corp. Realty Income Corp. specializes in commercial real estate. It owns 4,300 properties in 49 states and rents out these properties to businesses like Walgreens, Taco Bell and Fed-Ex. And heres why I like it so much: Its main goal is to make ever-increasing dividend payments to shareholders. In fact, its mission statement reads, Since 1969 our mission has been the same
to generate dependable monthly dividends. And thats the key: dependable monthly dividends. Its now paid out 535 consecutive monthly dividends. And its increased those payments 79 times. And when you begin piggybacking the Canada Pension Plan in the way Ill show you in just a minute you essentially become a part-owner in incredible income-producing assets like Realty Income Corp. So yes, piggybacking on the Canada Pension Plan really just means buy good, income-producing stocks. Dang. You actually have to buy them. And wait for your dividends to come in, and to compound over time. And you dont get free money from the Canadian government. This is terribly disappointing. But, of course, reality often disappoints especially when it comes to investing. Do you really want to piggyback on the Canada Pension Plan? Their goal is 4% annual real returns (after inflation), which is the number they need to hit to pull their weight in backing pension benefits for the next 75 years. To do that, they keep costs low and have lots of investments in real estate, private equity, and public equities you can review their website and see some of the specifics about what they own if you like, but other than a few overweight positions in Canadian banks and assorted other international investments its going to end up looking a lot like the performance of a global stock market index. They own 2,500 individual equities, and their largest weighting is less than 0.5% in any one stock. A conservative, extremely diversified equity portfolio. And yes, they do have a mandate to invest with an eye on future inflation prospects, and to try to get some alpha by investing with other private equity and hedge fund managers, and buying individual income-producing assets like office buildings but thats really no different from any big pension fund or insurance company. Theres nothing magical about the Canada Pension Fund, and it certainly doesnt have shockingly magical returns just like theres nothing magical about buying a bunch of dividend-producing stocks, investing continuously into those stocks, letting your dividends compound, and creating a big of a supplemental income stream from those dividends over a lifetime of investing. Thats really pretty much all she wrote or all he wrote, in this case. Scheidt says he has a private website that will help with some future income planning, and help you piggyback on the Canada Pension Plan, but I would imagine that probably what hes really doing is picking a couple dozen income stocks, probably including REITs like Realty Income (O), which was the only individual idea he mentioned or hinted at in the ad, and throwing in a few personal finance calculators so you can see how much you have to invest in these kinds of stocks in order to earn some future hypothetical piggyback income. He does also briefly mention juicing those dividends, which means hes very likely also suggesting some options income selling covered calls or cash-covered puts along the way on your stock holdings to improve the returns (with some significant tax consequences sometimes, so be careful), but thats about it as far as this ad goes. Anticlimactic, no? Well, at least I warned you up front no, the Canadians arent going to send you a benefit check unless you earned it, and you cant buy in to the Canada Pension Plan (nor would you probably want to, since youre probably aiming for returns of more than 4% or can get similar returns with either a large basket of dividend stocks or a few index funds), and unfortunately I cant tell you which specific investments Scheidt is suggesting for income because he doesnt hint at those at all. If youve suggestions for income stocks you think are worth consideration, whether theyre Canadian banks or REITs or blue chips or whatever else, please feel free to toss em on the pile with a comment below. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
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