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Title: Churches could face IRS probe (TV preacher Parlsey is one)
Source: Columbus Dispatch
URL Source: http://www.dispatch.com/news-story. ... 2006/01/16/20060116-A1-00.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: Mike Harden and Joe Hallett
Post Date: 2006-01-16 13:20:24 by Zipporah
Keywords: Churches, preacher, Parlsey
Views: 202
Comments: 15

Pastors Parsley, Johnson exploited pulpits to play politics, ministers’ complaint alleges
Monday, January 16, 2006
Mike Harden and Joe Hallett
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

ADAM CAIRNS | DISPATCH
Eric Williams, senior pastor of North Congregational United Church of Christ, tallies up petitions that ask the IRS to investigate political-campaign activities of two central Ohio churches.
The complaint alleges churchsponsored events have
showcased Republican gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell.
The Rev. Rod Parsley, left, and the Rev. Russell Johnson have been accused of using their churches for partisan politics.

More than 30 local pastors last night officially accused two evangelical megachurches of illegal political activities.

In a rare and potentially explosive action, the moderate ministers signed a complaint asking the Internal Revenue Service to investigate World Harvest Church of Columbus and Fairfield Christian Church of Lancaster and determine if their tax-exempt status should be revoked.

The grievance claims that the Rev. Rod Parsley of World Harvest Church and the Rev. Russell Johnson of Fairfield Christian Church improperly used their churches and affiliated entities — the Center for Moral Clarity, Ohio Restoration Project and Reformation Ohio — for partisan politics, including supporting the Republican gubernatorial candidacy of Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell.

The complaint asks the IRS to seek a court injunction "if these churches’ flagrant political campaign activities do not cease immediately." It was signed by 31 pastors from nine denominations during a meeting last night at the North Congregational United Church of Christ in Columbus and was to be faxed late last night to IRS Commissioner Mark W. Everson.

"For me, it’s church and state, not church in state and I really feel there are some churches in central Ohio crossing that line," said Eric Williams, senior pastor of the host church. "The law allows church involvement in issues. This goes beyond issue-involvement to partisan politics and we’re simply asking the IRS to uphold the law."

Williams and the other signers stressed that they were acting individually and not on behalf of their congregations, whose affiliations include: The American Baptist Churches/USA; the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ); the Episcopal Church in the USA; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; Judaism; the United Church of Christ; the United Methodist Church; Presbyterian Church, USA; and the Unitarian Universalist Association.

The complaint makes three main allegations:

• That church-sponsored events conducted by Parsley and Johnson have showcased a single gubernatorial candidate — Blackwell.

• That Parsley and Johnson have launched a "partisan-oriented" voter-registration campaign "with the goal of registering 400,000 voters to support Blackwell’s candidacy."

• That Parsley and Johnson have been behind efforts to distribute "biased voter education" materials aimed at solidifying voter support for Blackwell.

Johnson said last night that his church and its affiliate, the Ohio Restoration Project, do not support candidates and he was disappointed to learn about the complaint.

"It’s sad to see the religious left and the secular left forge an unholy alliance against people of faith," Johnson said. "We have invited people to pray, to serve and to engage, and candidly, we will not be intimidated or bullied by these folks."

In a statement e-mailed to The Dispatch last night, Mark Youngkin, spokesman for Parsley, did not directly address the allegations. But he said the World Harvest Church, Center for Moral Clarity and Reformation Ohio are separate nonprofit ministries "who are committed to full compliance with all applicable federal tax laws governing" the organizations.

"Voter registration has been encouraged — without regard to political affiliation — from diverse communities, including predominantly urban neighborhoods in Toledo and the Miami Valley," he said.

The IRS complaint, launched by members of mainline Judeo-Christian denominations, represents a deepening concern that leaders of the evangelical religious right are mounting an assault on the separation of church and state.

John Green, a University of Akron authority on religion and politics, said the complaint is extraordinary because it was filed by pastors rather than watchdog groups that routinely monitor church and state issues.

"This complaint is detailed and complex enough that I think the IRS is going to say, ‘We better look into this,’ " said Green, author of Religion and the Culture Wars.

Jack Seville, Ohio conference minister of the United Church of Christ, was among those asking the IRS to investigate.

"I would raise a question about any church, be it of the left or the right, that would endorse a candidate or ask its members to vote only for a specific candidate on the basis of its religious or moral values," Seville said.

"There were a number of people within my denomination who were framers of the Constitution. That’s why alarm bells go off when I see churches becoming directorial instead of letting the individual church member make up his or her own mind."

Rabbi Harold Berman of the Columbus synagogue Tifereth Israel, who also signed the complaint, said: "There are some Jewish groups that cross the lines of church and state, and I’ve spoken out about that as well. It’s a violation of the law if we want to be tax exempt."

Marcus Owens, a Washington, D.C., tax attorney and director of the IRS tax-exempt division from 1990 to 2000, said that IRS investigations of churches typically involve theft, but examinations of churches for playing politics are becoming more common.

Owens, who helped the clergy draft the IRS petition, said they had extensively documented the alleged political activities of Parsley and Johnson and their affiliated organizations.

"You have a number of churches and charities involved with a number of road trips for Mr. Blackwell, all of which seem to be aimed at gaining him visibility for his political campaign," Owens said.

Blackwell, who often carries a Bible to GOP events, has actively courted Christian right voters and became a champion for many of them by leading the successful campaign to ban same-sex marriages through a ballot issue in the November 2004 election.

The complaint cites nine instances when Blackwell was featured at events by the churches or their entities. During an October gathering at the Ohio Statehouse orchestrated by Reformation Ohio and led by Parsley, the televangelist called upon supporters of his $38.5 milliona-year church and affiliated operations to sign up 400,000 voters statewide. Blackwell shared the dais with Parsley.

"Man your battle stations," Parsley commanded attendees, who had been bused Downtown from his World Harvest Church. "Ready your weapons. Lock and load. Let the reformation begin."

The University of Akron’s Green said the "most problematic allegation" in the IRS complaint involves preferential treatment accorded Blackwell by Parsley, Johnson and their affiliated organizations.

Marci A. Hamilton, a professor of constitutional law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York City and an expert on the separation of church and state, said she was surprised by the pastors’ complaint.

"There are very few instances where anybody’s ever been turned in on this," she said. "Even though the laws are on the books, it’s rare that the law is enforced."

During the last 15 years or so, Hamilton added, churches have had "a tacit agreement" to look the other way and not criticize each other for political activities. But, she said, that appears to be changing as televangelists and conservative evangelical churches flex their muscles in the political arena.

"Those who have been in favor of separation of church and state have been pretty quiet, and it may be because they couldn’t get hold of the microphone. The agenda has been set by the religious right for so long."

Owens, who is representing a pacifist California church being audited because its former pastor delivered an anti-war sermon, said the number of investigations has grown dramatically of late, particularly under the Bush presidency.

"I think historically there were about 20 audits a year, and the number now is up to 50 or 100," he recalled from his 25-year tenure at the IRS, including 10 as head of its tax-exempt arm.

Owens said the jump in the number of church investigations has occurred because, since 2004, audits no longer require high-level approval in the IRS, and can be initiated by revenue agents or their subordinates.

"It is like doing away with the grand jury and giving authority to the cop on the beat," he said. "On its face, it really smells and suggests that there is something very wrong with how the IRS selects cases for review."

Supporters of Owens’ client church, All Saints Episcopal, of Pasadena, say that the IRS singled out the church for preaching against President Bush’s prosecution of the war in Iraq.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Good. Bring them ALL down. Bring down every church, and force them to pay taxes and tithe to government. I guarantee it would make a dent in our federal deficit. The minute the IRS oversteps its bounds, that's when ministers, preachers, and priests will start telling their flocks to stand up and be heard, instead of being yes men.

When their money supply is endangered, churches have been known to start a crusade to save their asses.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-01-16   13:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

I've heard a bunch of preachers speak a pro-republican message while leading a church service. They don't get an IRS audit over it.

jesus said that the 'fallen away' church must come before he returns. It is here. You can tell who they are, they shill for bush and the new world order. the ones who speak against it are persecuted, this is the real church.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-01-16   13:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Red Jones (#2)

You can tell who they are, they shill for bush and the new world order. the ones who speak against it are persecuted, this is the real church.

Preach it, brother.

Lod  posted on  2006-01-16   14:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#0)

Now this is interesting:

After Raw Story article, Republican National Committee modifies website

The Republican National Committee has revised their website in the wake of a RAW STORY article revealing that the Party had listed nonprofit organizations as "GOP groups."

An article this morning revealed that the Party listed non-partisan, tax-exempt nonprofits as "GOP groups." By this afternoon, the RNC had changed their website to list nonprofits and other groups illegally listed as Republican Party groups as "Other Organizations."

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-16   15:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#2)

I've heard a bunch of preachers speak a pro-republican message while leading a church service. They don't get an IRS audit over it.

jesus said that the 'fallen away' church must come before he returns. It is here. You can tell who they are, they shill for bush and the new world order. the ones who speak against it are persecuted, this is the real church.

Maybe they weren't reported to the IRS? Remember during the Clinton years how the freepers would have a fit about this.. but it was only a few churches and if I remember correctly, a Buddist temple?

And remember that the scripture says there will be a reminant.. not mega churches..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-16   15:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#0)

Owens said the jump in the number of church investigations has occurred because, since 2004, audits no longer require high-level approval in the IRS, and can be initiated by revenue agents or their subordinates.

"It is like doing away with the grand jury and giving authority to the cop on the beat," he said. "On its face, it really smells and suggests that there is something very wrong with how the IRS selects cases for review."

Supporters of Owens’ client church, All Saints Episcopal, of Pasadena, say that the IRS singled out the church for preaching against President Bush’s prosecution of the war in Iraq.

No gripe too petty.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
~James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-01-16   15:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

No gripe too petty.

Seems it depends on the individual investigators politics..?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-16   17:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#0)

The white conservative churches, at any rate.


Think globally, burn locally.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-01-16   23:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tauzero (#8)

True.. I do not get why these people believe that supporting the death and destruction of a nation including the deaths of civilians, women and children.. maimed and killed is within God's will?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-16   23:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah, Red Jones (#0)

The complaint asks the IRS to seek a court injunction "if these churches’ flagrant political campaign activities do not cease immediately." It was signed by 31 pastors from nine denominations during a meeting last night at the North Congregational United Church of Christ in Columbus and was to be faxed late last night to IRS Commissioner Mark W. Everson.

Williams and the other signers stressed that they were acting individually and not on behalf of their congregations, whose affiliations include: 1)The American Baptist Churches/USA; 2)the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ); 3)the Episcopal Church in the USA; 4)the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; 5)Judaism; 6)the United Church of Christ; 7)the United Methodist Church; 8)Presbyterian Church, USA; and 9)the Unitarian Universalist Association.

Since when did Judaism become a church???????

The IRS complaint, launched by members of mainline Judeo- Christiandenominations, represents a deepening concern that leaders of the evangelical religious right are mounting an assault on the separation of church and state.

The Myth of a Judeo-Christian Tradition

http://www.biblebelievers.o rg.au/judeochr.htm

"Jesus Christ and the Pharisees

The New Testament Gospels reveal an intense conflict between Jesus and the Pharisees, one of the two principal Judean religious sects (see Matthew chapter 3, verse 7; Matthew chapter 5, verse 20; Matthew chapter 23, verses 13-15, 23- 29; Mark chapter 8, verse 15; Luke chapter 11, verse 39). Much of this controversy was centred on what was later to become the foundation and highest authority of Judaism, the Talmud. In the time of Jesus Christ, this bore the name of "The Tradition of the Elders" (see Matthew chapter 15, verses 1-9).

The Judean historian Josephus wrote: "What I would now explain is this, that the Pharisees have delivered to the people a great many observances by succession from their fathers, which are not written in the laws of Moses . . ."

While the Pharisees recognized the laws of Moses, they also claimed that there was a great body of oral tradition which was of at least equal authority with the written Law - and many claimed that the Tradition was of greater authority. By their tradition, they undertook to explain and elaborate upon the Law. This was the "Tradition of the Elders", to which the name of Talmud was later given. It had its beginning in Babylon, during the Babylon captivity of the people of Judah, where it developed in the form of the commentaries of various rabbis, undertaking to explain and apply the Law. This was the foundation of Rabbinic Judaism.

This Judaism was very different from the religion of the ancient Israelites. The late Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, who was the Chief Rabbi of the United States, expressed this conclusively when he said: "The return from Babylon, and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism." The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that the Talmud is actually "the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools" and is generally referred to as "the Babylonian Talmud".

Dr. Boaz Cohen in Everyman's Talmud states the Talmud is the work of "numerous Jewish scholars over a period of some 700 years, roughly speaking, between 200 [B.C.] and 500 [A.D.]."

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein in Volume 1 of The Pharisees, the Sociological Background of their Faith says, "Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaption of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered."

According to The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VIII, (1942) p.474 : "The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single member of that literature."

Moshe Menuhim explains that the Babylonian Talmud embodied all the laws and legends, all the history and 'science,' all the theology and folklore, of all the past ages in Jewish life -- a monumental work of consolidation. In the Talmud, Jewish scholarship and idealism found their exclusive outlet and preoccupation all through the ages, all the way up to the era of Enlightenment. It became the principal guide to life and object of study, and it gave Judaism unity, cohesion and resilience throughout the dark ages.

The Talmud, more than any other literature, so defined Judaism that Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser admitted, <.u<"Judaism is not the religion of the Bible." (Judaism and the Christian Predicament, 1966, p.159) It is the Talmud that guides the life and spirit of the Jewish people.

"The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we [Jews] observe -- whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists -- we follow the Talmud. ****It is our common law." (A History of the Jews, Solomon Grayzel).

Both Jewish and Christian scholars agree that it was Jesus Christ's flagrant rejection of this "Tradition of the Elders" and his open confrontation with the powerful Pharisees that created the climate that led to his death. Historically, Christian thinkers argued that the Talmud was directly responsible for the rejection of Christ.

In their view these "traditions" blinded the eyes of the people to a true understanding of the prophecies which related to the coming of the Messiah...."

Index http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/judeindx.htm

Read Galatians 3 through 5:1. They have been trying to drag us back to Babylon with them for 2,000 years. And they have just about succeeded. Search Cornwallis to George Washington [who was a monarchist, related to the royals, who themselves were infiltrated by the Jews through marriage, if in fact, were not "Jewish" from the beginning.]: In Legions of Satan..... A holy war will now begin against America....in 200 years, her churches will be teaching the Jews' religion.... It has been a holy war since long before that. The Plymouth Colony moved in and began trying to take over from the colony that planted the cross and dedicated the country to Jesus Christ and the spreading of the gospel. PBS has a documentary on the churches in America, and the wolf churches dressed like the sheep churches to as not to arouse suspicion. As I posted last week, the Virginia Colony caught on, saw that the Plymouth Colony was trying to set up the golden calf, and tried to confiscate their goods and banish them from the Kingdom, as they were mandated by the law of the First Charter of 1606.

"For me, it’s church and state, not church in state and I really feel there are some churches in central Ohio crossing that line," said Eric Williams, senior pastor of the host church. "The law allows church involvement in issues. This goes beyond issue-involvement to partisan politics and we’re simply asking the IRS to uphold the law."

The US is STILL a British Colony [search]. All the rest has been an illusion/delusion [Rev. 20:7-10]. Maybe it's time to go back to the law of the First Charter of Virginia. [Micah 4, Psalm 2]

I wish People would wake up to the fact that the CHURCH is the ISRAEL OF GOD, built upon Jesus Christ, the apostles, and the prophets. Furthermore Jesus is the same God who led the Israelites out of Egypt the first time. Did you know the "NWO" refers to America as New Egypt? It seems they know something our pastors are blind to. Genesis 15:13-14; Galatians 3:16-29. It does not refer to the Israelites who were NOT afflicted under Joseph, who lived to be 110, and was buried in Egypt. It does not refer to those who came out and worshipped the golden calf.

As far as the "churches" crossing the line, I have four words: KOSHER TAX - NOAHIDE LAW.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-01-24   7:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

"We are obliged to conceal our own particular character and mode of life so that we will be allowed to continue our existence as a parasite among the nations. Our success in this line has gone so far that many believe that the Jews among them are genuine Frenchmen, or Englishmen, or Italians, or Germans who just happen to belong to a religious denomination which is different from that prevailing in these countries. Especially in circles concerned with government, where the officials have only a minimum of historical sense, we are able to impose our infamous deception with comparative ease. Therefore, there is never the slightest suspicion that we Jews form a distinct nationand are not merely the adherents of a 'confession.' Though one glance at the press which we control ought to furnish sufficient evidence to the contrary, even for those who possess only the smallest degree of intelligence."

See Genesis 15:13-14.

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976

...."The Hidden Tyranny

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer."

The above is an exact quote of Harold Wallace Rosenthal, former top Administrative Aide to the then Senator Jacob Javits, who was since defeated in the 1980 election. ....."

http://www.antichristconspiracy .com/HTML% 20Pages/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal_Interview_1976.htm

Ezekiel 38-39; Rev. 20:7-10.

If you are Jewish and reading this, please open your eyes. Time is running out.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-01-24   8:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKingsHorsesWontDoIt (#11)

I heard Parsley a couple months ago talking about a conspiracy of international bankers running the world. This is the reason for the irs investagation along with the Google investagation

http://snipurl.com/lu1x

http://snipurl.com/lu22

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-01-24   9:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Zipporah, Red Jones, lodwick, robin, Tauzero, valis, Arator (#12)

fyi

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-01-24   9:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#12)

Thank you for the links. I printed the pages but will have to find another computer to view them. I'm working on a clunker. My computer crashed after I made my posts. I'd LOVE to see them now...oh well. You and I have both spent enough time on the Federal Reserve and the money powers to know they are behind EVERYTHING. I have followed your lead. I think it was you that first woke me up to this, although perhaps under another name? :) in another place. "The love of money is the root of all evil."

If Parsley was exposing them, no wonder they want to shut him up.

I was trying to see if these churches were also advocating divesting from Israel. WHTT.ORG ran an article a while back about the Episcopal church that wanted to divest, and they were threatened with their church being burned down with the people in it. That's what we are up against.

I ran a link the other night, but checked the next day, and it was mangled. Here it is again, in case people are having trouble understanding this:

The Thirteenth Tribe

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

Ezekiel 38-39: Revelation 20:7-10; Rev. 2:9: 3:9; Micah 4; Psalm 2.

I'd like this to be a war of WORDS, but as I said last week, only time will tell. God wants ALL to be saved, but the time will come when He will put His flock [Ezekiel 34:13] above all.

See 2 Chronicles 20:11 as an example.

And Matthew 15:13.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-01-24   9:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Red Jones, Zipporah, Itisa1mosttoolate, Coral Snake (#0)

I was trying to see if these churches were also advocating divesting from Israel. WHTT.ORG ran an article a while back about the Episcopal church that wanted to divest, and they were threatened with their church being burned down with the people in it.

Actually, I think that might have been a Presbyterian church.

I hate to rag on them, but I woke up thinking of that sick, twisted little ditty Homeland Insecurity came up with to terrorize the kids [nevermind that "All terror proceeds from us" - Protocols of Sion], and in the DC area at least, passing the edict that during the next terror event, they will cut off all cell phones, further isolating kids from their enslaved parents, and couple that with them getting ready to send us into another depression, putting HS in charge of our bank deposits and boxes, preparing the camps for resisters, and I think it's now or never....wake up, church!

The Money powers/Zionists have been behind every war this country has been involved with, including the Revolutionary War, having funded both sides. All have been for the purpose of harnessing Christians in the name of patriotism, to their war chariots, all so that they, the money powers can set up their global plantation over us all. Note all the CROSSES at National Cemetery, FAR outnumber the Star of David. The following are just a few relevant quotes about the Jews, that the ADL, the mouthpiece of the Federal Reserve, is so desperate to censor speech on the internet for. This is not to foment hatred of the Jews, but to open the blind eyes of the church in America, so that they can rise to the challenge God has put before them. We are to be the salt of the earth. We are not to be codependents in the Jews' heresy. We were chosen to be priests and kings, to shine the light of the Gospel into every dark corner, to be the messengers of peace and liberty to the captives, not harbingers of death, lies, and destruction.

The quotes:

"The Jew...is not content merely to destroy Christianity, but he preaches the gospel of Judaism; he not only assails the Catholic or the Protestant faith, but he incites to the unbelief, and then imposes on those whose faith he has undermined his own conception of the world, of morality and of life. He is engaged in his historic mission, the annihilation of the religion of christ." (Bernard Lazare, Antisemitism: It's History and Causes, Translated by Britons Publishing Co., London (1967)"

"Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks, we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jews' Harvest: The Jew Banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet." (Rabbu Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon-Ben- Judah, 1869, Henry Ford also noted that: 'It was a Jew who said, 'Wars are the Jews' Harvest'; but no harvest is so rich as civil wars.' The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, Vol. III, p. 180)"

"I fear the Jewish banks with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America. And use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos that the earth should become their inheritance." Bismarck

Coral Snake, this one is for you. Note the references to the Scythians and the "Stone of Destiny". While doing research on JAPHETH at http://wikipedia.com, I linked to some of the names there, and found many that reminded me of the traits of the Tribe of Dan [ships, metalworkers, horses, eagles, barbarians, idolators, robbers], the Scythians being prime examples. I told you I thought the Tribe of Dan was the missing link you were looking for. The following is adding fuel to the fire. I had said that I thought that "Dan is a Lion's whelp" was in reference to him springing from Dan/Laish, but later thought it might have something to do with Zarah/Zereh, the twin brother of Pharez, from whom Jesus descended. In the Bible, there is often conflict between twins. Abel and Cain being prime examples. Many scholars believe Cain was actually the devil's seed, and I concur. I have tried to find out exactly who Zarah and Pherez's mother was descended from, but the Bible is unclear, and in fact, I wonder if the truth was removed. The Jews removed two or three references to Israel being saved "from the wood", according to Justin Martyr, who saw some of the scriptures before they had censored all of them. However, the Talmudists have said that the "AntiChrist" [there have been many] would come from the Tribe of Dan. Zarah put his hand out first, and the midwife put the SCARLET CORD on his wrist. The Kaballah has something to do with a scarlet cord. After reading the following, recall the blasphemy at http://asis.com regarding the ROYAL HOUSE OF BRITAIN, and Zarah, and the Stone of Destiny. That stone, if it is in fact the original stone, is the stone that Jacob placed as an altar at the "gate of Heaven", and named it Bethel, which means House of God. Bethel is one of the cities where Jeroboam and Dan set up the golden calf. It was the place God had chosen to put His name, at first. Other than the stone tablets bearing the ten commandments, this may have been the FIRST "stone the builders rejected", Jesus Christ being the Stone God intended in 1 Kings 5. I ran across a story in the Bible last week I had never seen before, that of a Danite blaspheming the name of God, and being stoned to death for it. They have been antiChrist from the beginning. I'm trying to think of any of the other tribes being guilty of blaspheming God, and I am drawing a blank. Does this make any sense? His mother was a Danite, and HER father was an Egyptian.

"In its issue of 10 March, 1921 (No. 214) La Vieille France gives the version of this funeral oration which was published in La Russie Juive. It is perfectly clear that the funeral oration and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion come from one and the same mint. Both are prophetic; and the power which made the prophecies has been able to bring about their fulfillment. This oration is so important that we append to it an account of the fulfillment of each of the sections. There can no longer be any doubt as to whose is the power which is disturbing the world, creating World Unrest, and at the same time reaping all the profits. Jewry is enslaving all Christian peoples of the earth. There IS a Jew World Plot and it now stands finally and completely unmasked.

"There is a Jewish conspiracy against all nations; it occupies almost everywhere the avenues of power - a double assault of Jewish revolution and Jewish finance, revolution and finance. If I were God, I'd clean this mess up and I would start with cleaning the Money Changers out of the Federal Reserve. He does say in His Word that the gold and silver will be thrown in the streets. Since they aren't using money in Heaven now, we won't need any when He gets here. It will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Oh, I do thank God for that! Hallelujah!l bet you haven't heard this much praises, ever." (La Nouveau Mercure, Paris 1917, Rene Groos)

1). Every hundred years, We, the Sages of Israel, have been accustomed to meet in Sanhedrin in order to examine our progress towards the domination of the world which Jehovah has promised us, and our conquests over the enemy -- CHRISTIANITY.

"Judaism, which was destroyed politically (as a result of the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D.), went forth into the great world. It adapted its possessions to its wanderings. I once compared it to an army going to war, a movable State."

Jews were compelled to smuggle their goods across from frontier to frontier; so they chose abstract wares, easy to stubble; and this gave them ability, despite ghettos and restrictions, to enter everywhere; and so it is that the Hebrew people have penetrated everywhere. The argument is that JUDAISM, BY PENETRATING AMONG THE CHRISTIANS, HAS GRADUALLY REINSTITUTED THE REMNANTS OF PAGANISM. SUCH PENETRATION HAS NOT BEEN WITHOUT DELIBERATE JEWISH CONNIVING IN THE SHAPE OF ASSISTANCE BESTOWED IN A THOUSAND WAYS, DEVICES AND DISGUISES. IT HAS BEEN AFFECTED IN GREAT MEASURE BY CRYPTO-JEWS, WHO HAVE PERMEATED CHRISTIANITY AND SPOKEN THROUGH THE MOUTH OF CHRISTIANITY (By false teachers, as we were warned of by Christ). BY THESE DEVICES OF THEIR JEWISH BLOOD; and owing to an instance for 'requital,' THEY (Jews, who, posing as Christian teachers - such as Mike Evans, Billy Graham, Jack Van Impe, and the Jews lackeys - such as Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggert, Oral Roberts and almost all, if not all television evangelists) HAVE GRADUALLY INDUCED CHRISTIANITY TO ACCEPT WHAT WAS LEFT IN IT OF PAGAN ELEMENTS AS THEIR OWN; AND IT IS THEY (Those Jews, posing as Christians) WHO, IN PRINCIPLE (even though they are called by great Gentile names), OF DEMOCRACY, OF SOCIALISM, AND OF COMMUNISM. ALL THIS ACHIEVEMENT...HAS COME ABOUT CHIEFLY THROUGH UNKNOWN ANONYMOUS JEWS, JEWS IN SECRET, EITHER CRYPTO-JEWS WHO MINGLED AMONG THE CHRISTIANS AND NURTURED GREAT THINKERS FROM AMONG THEM; OR, THROUGH THE INFLUENCE OF JEWS, WHO, IN THE GREAT CRISES OF LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, HAVE STOOD BEHIND THE SCENES; OR THROUGH JEWISH TEACHERS AND SCHOLARS (Posing as Christians, men such as John Calvin*) FROM THE TIME OF THE MIDDLE AGES. It was disciples of Jewish teachers who headed the Protestant movements. These dogs, these haters of the Jews have a keen nose. In truth, JEWISH INFLUENCE IN GERMANY IS POWERFUL. It is impossible to ignore it. Marx was a Jew. His manner of thought was Jewish. His keenness of intellect was Jewish; and one of his forebears was a most distinguished rabbi endowed with a powerful mind. THE NEWSPAPERS, UNDER JEWISH CONTROL, obviously served as an auxiliary in all movements in favor of freedom. Not in vain have Jews been drawn toward journalism. In their hands IT BECAME A WEAPON HIGHLY FITTED TO MEET THEIR NEEDS...The MANY CHRISTIANS HAVE AT LAST REALIZED THIS SECRET, THAT JUDAISM HAS GRADUALLY PENETRATED THEM LIKE A DRUG...AND IS TRYING TO ORGANIZE THE FINAL BATTLE. TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE TRYING TO ORGANIZE ITS LAST WAR AGAINST JUDAISM. And there is no doubt that this warfare...is being waged specifically against Democracy, against Socialism. This is another world wide warfare again against the forces of Judaism. I venture to think that Socialism in its highest form is the fruit of the Jewish spirit, and the fruit of the world outlook of the prophets. It is they who were the first Socialists.

WAR IS NOW BEING WAGED AGAINST US {but unknown to most of Christianity. Because God's People refuse to accept knowledge and recognize the enemy}, AGAINST JUDAISM, not in our own land, but in the great outer world where we are scattered. They would 'smoke us out' of all the cracks and crannies where we have hidden. They would exterminate us like bacilli, and be rid of us." (N.H. Bialik, in an address delivered at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, May 11, 1933, which appeared in Lines of Communication, Palestine, July, 1933) *(We Jews can boast of being the Creators of the Reformation! Calvin was one of our Children; he was of Jewish descent, and was entrusted by Jewish authority and encouraged with Jewish finance to draft his scheme in the Reformation. From a series of speeches at the B'nai B'rith Convention in Paris, published shortly afterwards in the London Catholic Gazette, February, 1936; Paris Le Reveil du Peuple published similar account a little later and Phillip II, by William Thomas Walsh)

2). This year, united over the tomb of our reverend Simeon-ben-Ihuda, we can state with pride that the past century has brought us very near to our goal, and that this goal will be very soon attained.

3). Gold always has been and always will be the irrestible power. Handled by expert hands it will always be the most useful lever for those who possess it, and the object of envy for those who do not. With gold we can buy the most rebellious consciences, can fix the rate of all values, the current prices of all products, can subsidize all State loans, and thereafter hold the state at our mercy.

4). Already the principal banks, the exchanges of the entire world, the credits of all the governments, are in our hands.

5). The other great power is The Press. by repeating without cessation certain ideas, the Press succeeds in the end in having them accepted as actualities. The Theater renders us analogous services. Everywhere the Press and the Theater obey our orders.

6). By the ceaseless praise of Democratic Rule we shall divide the Christians into political parties, we shall destroy the unity of their nations, we shall sow discord everywhere. Reduced to impotence, they will bow before the Law of Our Bank, always untied, and always devoted to our Cause.

7). We shall force the Christians into wars by exploiting their pride and their stupidity. They will massacre each other, and clear the ground for us to put our own people into.

8). The possession of the land has always brought influence and power. In the name of social Justice and Equality we shall parcel out the great estates; we shall give the fragments to the peasants who covet them with all their powers, and who will soon be in debt to us by the expense of cultivating them. Our capital will make us their masters. We in our turn shall become the great proprietors, and the possession of the land will assure the power to us.

9). Let us try to replace the circulation of gold with paper money; our chests will absorb the gold, and we shall regulate the value of the paper which will make us master of all the positions.

"The god of the Jews had been secularized and has become the god of this world,' Marx wrote. 'Money is the jealous god of the Jews, beside which no other god may stand.'" (David Horowitz, Human Events)

10). We count among us plenty of orators capable of feigning enthusiasm and of persuading mobs. We shall spread them among the people to announce changes which should secure the happiness of the human race. By gold and by flattery we shall gain the proletariat which will charge itself with annihilating Christian capitalism. We shall promise workmen salaries of which they have never dared to dream, but we shall also raise the price of necessities so that our profits will be greater still.

11). In this manner we shall prepare Revolutions which the Christians will make themselves and of which we shall reap the fruit.

12). By our mockeries and our attacks upon them we shall make their priests ridiculous then odious, and their religion as ridiculous and as odious as their clergy. Then we shall be masters of their souls...

13). We have already established our own men in all important positions. We must endeavor to provide the Goyim with lawyers and doctors; the lawyers are au courant with all interests; doctors once in the house, become confessors and directors of consciences.

14). But above all let us monopolize Education. By this means we spread ideas that are useful to us, and shape the children's brains as suits us.

15). If one of our people should unhappily fall into the hands of justice amongst the Christians, we must rush to help him; find as many witnesses as he needs to save him from his judges, until we become judges ourselves. [Noahide Law]

16). The monarchs of the Christian world, swollen with ambition and vanity, surround themselves with luxury and with numerous armies. We shall furnish them with all the money their folly demands, and so shall keep them on leash.

17). Let us take care not to hinder the marriage of our men with Christian girls, for through them we shall get our foot into the most closely locked circles. If our daughters marry Goyim they will be no less useful, for the children of a Jewish mother are ours. Let us foster the idea of free love, THAT WE MAY DESTROY AMONG CHRISTIAN WOMEN ATTACHMENT TO THE PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICES OF THEIR RELIGION.

18). For ages past the sons of Jews, despised and persecuted have been working to open up a path to power. They are hitting the mark. They control the economic life of the accursed Christians; their influence preponderates over politics and over manners.

19). At the wished for hour, fixed in advance, we shall let loose the Revolution, which by ruining all classes of Christianity will definitely enslave the Christians to Us. Thus will be accomplished the promise of God made to His People.

(16) The "Stone of Destiny" has been or is being returned to Scotland: After 700 years, the Stone of Scone (pronounced 'Skoon'), will be returned to the people of Scotland. The 336 lb. Red sandstone rock; the coronation seat of Scottish kings, when there was Scottish royalty, has been used in Westminister Abbey, as the coronation seat for English kings and queens, since Edward I removed the stone, ostensibly for "safe-keeping," in 1296.

****Historically, Israelites trace the stone's lineage to that of the stone Israelite Patriarch Jacob rested his head upon, when he dreamed of the heavenly ladder (Genesis 28:10-22). This "pillow stone" would later be anointed by Jacob and given the name "Bethel" (God's House), Jacob declaring, "The stone which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house."

The stone was kept with the Children of Israel and revered as a coronation seat on which the kings of the House of David were crowned. Later, during the Assyrian captivity of the ten tribes, and later most of the other three, it is believed that the stone was taken, by fleeing Israelites, first into Spain, then north by sea to Ireland, where it remained for centuries.

The stone came to Scotland, via Ireland, during the 7th century A.D., and continued to be used, as it had been since the time of Solomon's Temple, as a coronation seat. In 843 A.D., Kenneth MacAlpin was crowned upon the stone as the first King of the United Kingdom of the Picts and Scots. This Stone of Destiny would later take on the name of "Scone," for the name of the town in which it resided.

It is clear that King Robert the Bruce was well aware of the stone's significance and from whence the people of Scotland came. In a letter, dated April 6, 1320, Robert the Brice wrote, in part: "...(T)he nation of the Scots has been distinguished by many honors; which passing from greater Scythia through the Mediterranean Sea and Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar) and sojourning in Spain among the most savage tribes through a long course of time, could nowhere be subjugated by any people, however barbarous; and coming thence one thousand two hundred years after the outgoing of the People of Israel, they by many victories and infinite toil, acquired for themselves the possessions in the West which they now hold...In their kingdom, one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, no stranger intervening, have reigned..."

QUOTES BY FAMOUS JEWS

http://www.israelect.com/reference/Willie- Martin/QuotesByJews.html

God said the hidden things of darkness would be revealed. It all makes me think we are fast approaching the end of an age.

Royal House of Britain

http://asis.com/~stag/royalty.html

US Royal Presidents

http://asis.com/~stag/uspres.html

Psalm 2:2 [Kings of the earth. How can people not believe in God, when He foresaw this eons ago?] I think the author is well-intentioned, but he is taken in by British- Israelism. Fascinating site, though.

See also the Lost Tribe of Dan at http://watch.pair.com

The important thing to me seems to be for the people in this nation, ALL of us, to do what the children of Israel did, sing praises to the Lord, and ask Him to help us.

"Turn to me, turn to me, for why will you die, O House of Israel?"

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-01-24   14:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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