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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 14291
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#136. To: Neil McIver (#131)
Neil, Let me be more clear for you. WHAT NOT TO DO IF ARRESTED Any law enforcement officer such as a policeman, sheriff, deputy sheriff or state trooper can make a lawful arrest. The arrest may be made with a warrant or, under certain circumstances, without a warrant. Do not resist a law enforcement officer who attempts to arrest you - even if you are innocent. The fact that you are innocent will not make the arrest illegal if the officer’s action conformed to the requirements of a legal arrest as stated above. If the arrest is legal and you resist, you may be guilty of the crime of resisting lawful arrest. If the arrest is illegal, you are entitled to bring an action against the law enforcement officer for false arrest. Do not resist a law officer’s attempt to search or "frisk" you. It is legal for an arresting officer to search your person and the area in your immediate presence. Even if he does not arrest you, an officer - after identifying himself - may stop you in any public place if he has reason to believe that you have committed, are committing or are about to commit a crime. He may demand your name and address and an explanation of your actions. If he reasonably suspects that he or another is in danger of being attacked, he may search you for weapons. Now... Getting back to the matter at hand... We can clearly see where Michelle screwed up and got herself promoted from "Simple Citation" to "Arrested and Jailed."
Elliot, So, now that you have conceded that Michelle was in the wrong, now you go with IT LOOKS BAD? Tough. She broke the law. If she had been hit by a car after the police had warned her against skating in the streets, you would be first in line asking for the cops who DIDN'T stop her to be fired. If you fear your safety in this city so much, perhaps you should move.
I have had no problem with the idea that she was in the wrong, my problem is with her being beaten in the streets by a cop. As far as the whole "she broke the law" argument, hell, that can be applied to everybody in this country. There are so many things "against the law" nowadays that everybody is always guilty of something. As far as if she had been hit by a car, my response would have been "tough titty", she gets drunk and rollerskates in traffic, then she's a grown girl and she takes her chances. And no, I don't live in Texas, and I wouldn't live in that state for any reason. I visited there once for about a month twenty years ago, and got my fill of it in that time. Once again, there is a difference between deserving to be arrested and deserving to be beaten. If this girl had instead been a 250 lb guy, we would not be having this discussion. But officer FearBiter decided to smack around a little girl, and now he's all upset because people like me are pissed off about it. Tough. If he can't take the heat, he should get out of the kitchen.
#137. To: Elliott Jackalope (#134)
#138. To: Richard (#137)
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#139. To: Richard (#136)
WHAT NOT TO DO IF ARRESTED All well and fine. Nonetheless, it is lawful to resist an unlawful arrest.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#140. To: Elliott Jackalope (#138)
Elliot, She broke the law. MORE IMPORTANLTY. She RESISTED ARREST AND ATTACKED A POLICE OFFICER. She was NEVER beaten. NEVER BEATEN. Get it thru your head. I was there. She was wrestled to the ground, and other than cutting her face on the ground while she was struggling, she was not harmed. SHE WAS NOT BEATEN. Being as how YOU were not there and I was, you have no business even suggesting such a thing.
#141. To: Neil McIver (#139)
Neil, How does one determine an "unlawful arrest?" Do you have a law degree and have you passed the bar in every state in the union? You are free to fight with the cops all you want, just be prepared to get your head handed to you for your troubles, and rightfully so.
#142. To: Richard (#100)
There ARE laws against INCEST ya know. BTW, how long have you been screwing your 17 year old daughter? 10 weeks, 10 months, 10 years?
she is of the age of consent and can have sex with whomever she pleases
#143. To: FormerLurker (#142)
Lurker, You need to read the whole thread before you go of on your little rant. The comment you read was made inside of "Elliot's World." In Elliot's World, if there is No Victim, there is No Crime. Keep things in context.
#144. To: Richard, Red Jones (#56)
Wow, you must be quite a dolt if you think anyone believes that some witness to this incident just happened to find 4um in order to "relate" his side of the story. Is this the sort of piss poor quality psy-op that our tax money buys these days? Sheesh.
Wow, you are quite the conspiracy theorist to presume that I am lying about being an eye-witness to this idiotic woman's behavior.
#145. To: Richard (#140)
Oh yes, the ever popular "s(he) fell" argument. That used to work all of the time back in the day, but you are missing the larger issue here, which is that too many of us have seen too much abuse of authority by too many cops, and we are no longer inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the police any longer. If the robocops had shown some restraint over the last twenty years they would have a lot more support from the community, but since they have largely acted like aggressive jerks too many times to too many people they can no longer count on that support. Maybe it's not fair, but it is reality.
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#146. To: Elliott Jackalope (#145)
Elliot, You don't live in the city, much less the state. You were NOT there. You are going off of photographs that tell you NOTHING. If you go by the photos, there is NO evidence that she was harmed by anyone. You can't tell if she inflicted the wounds herself or not. Just because you have seen abuse of authority does not mean it existed in this incident. Being an eyewitness observer, I can tell you that it there was no abuse of authority in this case. Being as how you have no clue what happened, all you can do is try to stir the pot when you don't actually know squat.
#147. To: Richard (#143)
That's odd, as from looking over the thread, I saw you making a lot of comments about screwing your daughter, so to me, it was more of a "Richard's World" sort of thing.
The comment you read was made inside of "Elliot's World."
#148. To: FormerLurker (#144)
Lurker, I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
#149. To: Richard (#146)
You have repeatedly proven incapable of understanding the larger issues at stake here, and so I am done trying to convince you of anything. However, you might consider that every single other person here disagrees with you. Perhaps that might tell you something?
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#150. To: FormerLurker (#147)
Lurker, Again with your ignorance. I was illustrating how Elliot's concept of No Victim No Crime just does not work in the real world. Too bad you are not bright enough to grasp that concept.
#151. To: Richard (#146)
I doubt you were either. Why don't you tell us the name of the officer that interviewed you, and what time of the evening it was when the interview was conducted.
You were NOT there.
#152. To: Richard (#150)
Too bad you are not bright enough to grasp that concept. Too bad you're too dumb to realize that a man screwing his daughter is not a victimless crime. So how long have you been banging her?
I was illustrating how Elliot's concept of No Victim No Crime just does not work in the real world.
#153. To: Elliott Jackalope (#149)
Larger Issue At Stake? What we have is a woman who broke the law and fought with the police. She was not beaten. The police used reasonable restraint. They did not mace, tazer, shoot or use their batons on her. You don't like the police. That is fine. But to immediately presume that the police are wrong when you weren't there... that is ignorance. I was there. You disagree with me because you weren't there. You know the 'myth.' I know the Facts.
#154. To: FormerLurker (#152)
Lurker, Not in Elliot's World. If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases. So, in Elliot's World, we could have sex legally. No victim. She is volunteering. Once again, you are too slow to see what is going on here.
#155. To: Richard (#148)
Why you ask? Because 4um doesn't come up in Google that easily. Why don't you provide the search terms you used to find this site. I'd be highly surprised if you did.
I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
#156. To: Richard (#154)
You are forgetting about the INCEST laws, which are written in order to prevent various genetic disorders in offspring, in addition to preventing the psychological damage caused by those acts.
If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases.
#157. To: FormerLurker (#144)
it's pretty funny really. hard to believe a witness would go out of his way to glorify police like Richard.
Is this the sort of piss poor quality psy-op that our tax money buys these days? Sheesh.
#158. To: FormerLurker (#156)
Lurker, In Elliot's World... Those laws don't exist. At 17, she would be at the age of consent, and not being bound by our laws, open to do what she would please. You can't prove any psychological damage if she wants to do it, she is old enough to make her own choices and free from "real laws" in Elliot's World. Furthermore, as for genetic disorders, well, those can occur any time there is a pregnancy. So, two swings and two misses for the FormerLurker Again, you are too stupid to realize that this entire issue is taking place in a theoretical place where if there is No Victim, there is No Crime. Elliot's World.
#159. To: Red Jones (#157)
Red, I am not glorifying anything. I am simply not standing by and letting people form their own lynch mobs. I was there and I saw what happened. She was not beaten, the police were not out of line.
#160. To: Richard (#154)
I don't think that is true. the law is different in every state. It is really odd that you picked this example. It just goes to show the Jeff Gannon rule. People who glorify the government and the police are usually perverts.
If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases.
#161. To: Red Jones (#157)
Especially when the 4um article doesn't come up in Google until after 100 pages or so, if at all.
it's pretty funny really. hard to believe a witness would go out of his way to glorify police like Richard.
#162. To: FormerLurker (#155)
FormerLurker. Here was the intricately designed search term I used. "Michelle Metzinger" Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx? q=Michelle+Metzinger&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0 here is the results link, in case you are too stupid to actually form the querry yourself.
#163. To: Richard (#158)
Under the Common Law this is a fact. You've been blowing smoke at everyone on here the whole time, little do you know.
No Victim, No Crime.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#164. To: Red Jones (#160)
Red, I was working with Texas, cuz that is where I live. Nice to see you are happy with your bigoted statements that people who glorify the government are usually perverts. I am not glorifying anything... just keeping the truth in this conversation instead of letting those who WEREN'T there, like yourself, let these lies of yours continue.
#165. To: BTP Holdings (#163)
BTP... And if our nation was run solely under Common Law that would mean something. Being as how it is not, it does not matter.
#166. To: FormerLurker (#161)
Lurker, you do a MSN search for "Michelle Metzinger" and it is in the first 25 hits. First page. Lord you are a dolt.
#167. To: Richard (#158)
In Elliot's World... Those laws don't exist. No, in Richard's World they don't, as this is YOUR example, not Elliot's. At 17, she would be at the age of consent, and not being bound by our laws, open to do what she would please. Again, that is not necessarily true in regards to the age of consent laws, as many are written to state that one in charge of a minor, such as a parent or school teacher, would be guilty of statutory rape if they had sexual relations with that minor. You are still forgetting the fact that there are reasons for those laws. Why did you even use that as an example? It is quite lame from a legal standpoint, and only infers that you have such thoughts running through your mind. You can't prove any psychological damage if she wants to do it, she is old enough to make her own choices and free from "real laws" in Elliot's World. So you acknowledge a need for age of consent laws, yet you say that there is no real need for incest laws. The same underlying principle is common between both, in that both laws are written to prevent psychological harm. If the age of consent laws have any legitimate basis, then so do the laws against incest. Furthermore, as for genetic disorders, well, those can occur any time there is a pregnancy. The possibility of genetic disorders is drastically increased in cases of incest.
#168. To: FormerLurker (#167)
Lurker, Good lord, you are an idiot. You have a taken a concept that was introduced to rebut Elliot's idiotic concept and now are trying to apply it to other circumstances. The comment that you first latched onto was specifically designed to be applied in ONE situation, in Elliot's World. No where else. You don't know what you are talking about, and you don't know why you are talking about it. Be still, child.
#169. To: Neil McIver (#135)
Don't give them any ideas...taxpapers are sources of revenue for Leviathan...can't have 'em running off.
I thought perhaps putting up a wall & barbed wire fence and machine-gunned guard towers around the USA would be a good way to keep people IN who wanted to leave.
#170. To: FormerLurker (#167)
Notice how the replies are becoming increasingly testy and insulting? Such a common pattern, once I've observed many times before.
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#171. To: All (#170)
once I've observed s/b ONE I've observed - oops.
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#172. To: Richard (#168)
Good lord, you are an idiot. Coming from one that approves of a 250 lb cop sticking his knee into the back of the neck of a 100 lb girl and scraping her face into the pavement, all for the simple crime of rollerskating, I take that as a compliment. All of the real witnesses tell a different story than you. You may well have found this forum via MSN, but you'd be in the minority if you use MSN as a search engine, as most people use Google or Yahoo. If you were unhappy with the news reports, you would have written an editorial for the local paper. There is a marginal chance that you found this forum in the manner that you claim, but the odds against it are high. Go back to licking the boots of the boys in blue (or black, camouflage, or whatever color tickles your tongue). Apparently your daughter knows what tickles your tongue as well...
#173. To: Elliott Jackalope (#170)
It's a time tested formula, that's for sure.. :)
Notice how the replies are becoming increasingly testy and insulting? Such a common pattern, once I've observed many times before.
#174. To: Richard (#89)
R, Please show where I indicated you cared?
I don't care if I have "credibility" with you. I don't need it.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#175. To: Richard (#162)
Actually no, it appears on the 2nd MSN page, shit for brains.
Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass.
#176. To: Richard (#162)
BTW, you DO know how to count past one, right? Are you sure your daughter's really 17?
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