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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 13766
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#1. To: All (#0)
Pig mother effers. IMVHO, a .45 cal should be mandatory when roller-skating in Dallas.
We should be sure of all the facts. The story claims witnesses said she was aggravating the situation by attacking the cop. Were the witnesses impartial?
She looks ok in the first picture standing next to police car. At that point she seems to be in custody, and police are responsible for her.
She looks like she had her face scraped across the pavement. Don't know what else would likely cause that kind of redness. That does suggest the cop had control of her at the time it happened.
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
That much blood doesn't come from mere scrapes.
The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event rather than giving any kind of testimony of what HE saw happen, and if he didn't see it but speaks as though he did, then that's pretty incriminating as well. It's likely his version of the events is mere heresay, at best. The girl is smart to consult a lawyer before making any public comments.
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? I'll tell ya, I've wrapped up guys, lean 'n' mean and 15 years younger than me, without giving them so much as a bruise. And this creep thumps this little girl so hard the blood is all over her face. And then his knee on her throat and her spine. I hope these pics really hang him. He went way overboard and now it's time to pay the fiddler. The head hunters will have some fun looking into his record and sending him for new psych tests. ;0)
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? Oh, damn, that's from a different story. Oh, it looks as it this Lt. is just a mouthpiece they roll out to make sound bites. Yeah, well, he can bite me too. ;0)
I was there that night and saw the situation as well. They also took my info as a witness. I side with the police on this one, sorry. The girl who got arrested was stoned out of her mind, argumentative and clearly off her nut. I had seen her and her friend earlier skating on Main Street. They were skating on the sidewalk at that time, and they fell down numerous times as well as nearly crashed drunkenly into lines of people waiting to get into clubs. She had been warned by the police on Main Street about her conduct before she was finally ticketed and arrested on Elm Street. The "tiny girl" on skates had been told before not to skate in the street by the police, and as you said, was arrested and in the process of being ticketed for her conduct. She was breaking the law. Right now, the most common arrest in Deep Ellum is NOT assault, breaking and entering, or any other violent crime; it is PUBLIC INTOXICATION. Michelle was a prime object lesson for this. She was arrested, and not only failed to follow the instructions of the police, she was an ass about it. She was skating in the middle of a BUSY street, if she had been hit by a car, you would all be crawling up the butt of the police asking why they DIDN'T stop her from skating in the street. Or are you now advocating that people go roller skating in the middle of a busy street on a weekend night? Perhaps we should have a skating party on the 75 next Saturday? As civillians, we need to respect the police. Even if we disagree with them. There are structures in place to dispute the actions of the police. The middle of Elm Street is NOT a place to do this. Also, you NEVER have a right to swing at a police officer, even if you are drunk. It is their job to protect us from harm, even when that harm is coming from our own actions (like a drunken girl who wants to rollerskate in the MIDDLE OF A BUSY STREET). You laughingly play it down as she gave "a little attitude" when in fact she was extremely disrespectful and got what she deserved. She was intoxicated, breaking the law and endangering her life and the lives of the drivers in the area, I really don't see how her weight comes into play there. She resisted arrest, and fell to the ground in the scuffle, so what? I would be FAR more concerned if the officer was NOT able to control her. So she got cut... big deal. She resisted arrest. She should not have done that. The officer has been on the force for 12 years and has been written up 3 times. That is immaterial. It does not show a "pattern" of abusive behavior. Clearly each incident was addressed or he would not be serving on the force presently. It is hack journalism to try to paint the police officer as being in the wrong for doing his job because of 3 write ups over a 12 YEAR SPAN. She was drunk and under arrest, she should not have resisted. Had she not resisted, she would have been ticketed and relased... unharmed. It is amazing that you all are trying to portray this idiotic, offensive and drunken female as a victim... The cops did their job, and did it well. She got what she deserved. Perhaps you all will learn a little respect the police from this lesson.
Hi Richard, and welcome. About the above comment, no, we don't have to respect the police. I don't and I was a member for years. Today they've become nothing more that revenue collectors for local government - heavy handed ones at that. What they did to this girl is the real crime, imo. Having spent nearly 15 years on the NYPD, beginning in the late 60's, I saw lots of serious criminal activity. Roller skating, even under the influence, isn't one of them. I can think of countless ways a 250 pound, trained police officer could have handled this, but this guy seemingly chose the least civilian friendly method. I believe a Dallas PD spokesman (Watson) was interviewed for the article? Well, let the spin begin. This goof is going to need spin. Those pictures paint an ugly picture. If this were my daughter that cop would have one pissed off ex cop all over his butt. Lets see how this all shakes out. At the very least the guy should be fired, sued and possibly jailed.
I agree with you JT. I'm sure there's a lot of fine police fellows, just as there are in any profession. even among drug smugglers there's some fine people. but the police in this country have done so many horrible things. How can we respect them any more! As far as Richard's commentary - I am skeptical of it. an eye-witness - how convenient. there's no excuse for drawing all that blood from someone, especially a woman.
Red, Wow, you are quite the conspiracy theorist to presume that I am lying about being an eye-witness to this idiotic woman's behavior. What would I possibly stand to gain? The police have my information and I told them I would be happy to testify if needed. Perhaps you think they are paying me? Sorry... I live in Deep Ellum and am sick to death of the drunken idiots that think that "the man" is there to keep them down. The police are there to protect the law abiding citizens from the rest of you. Michelle was drunk and skating in the middle of the street. She was told not to skate in the street and chose to do so anyway. You are upset because the police arrested a woman? How incredibly sexist of you. Would you have felt better if she had successfully managed to gouge out the officers eye as she was trying to do? Then would his actions be justified? Sorry, Red, but you really don't have much ground to stand on here if you are trying to introduce the sex of the criminal as justification for her actions.
Wow, you must be quite a dolt if you think anyone believes that some witness to this incident just happened to find 4um in order to "relate" his side of the story. Is this the sort of piss poor quality psy-op that our tax money buys these days? Sheesh.
Lurker, I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
Why you ask? Because 4um doesn't come up in Google that easily. Why don't you provide the search terms you used to find this site. I'd be highly surprised if you did.
FormerLurker. Here was the intricately designed search term I used. "Michelle Metzinger" Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx? q=Michelle+Metzinger&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0 here is the results link, in case you are too stupid to actually form the querry yourself.
Actually no, it appears on the 2nd MSN page, shit for brains.
Lurker, Sorry you have a tiny monitor... I am sure that is not the only tiny thing you have, starting with your brain... but it is on the first page on mine. I don't have a daughter, you idiot. As I said, I was illustrating a point. Perhaps such intricate concepts are beyond your ability to comprehend. Hopefully you are not allowed to use the sharp scissors.
Sorry you have a tiny monitor... I am sure that is not the only tiny thing you have, starting with your brain... but it is on the first page on mine. I'm sure your sexual fantasies require large monitors, such as a wide screen behomouth in order to get a crystal clear image when you watch your "Big Black Cops in Luv" DVDs. I don't have a daughter, you idiot. As I said, I was illustrating a point. You were fantasizing about what you'd do if you did though. You obviously wouldn't care if she got slammed to the ground by a big ole cop, as long as she could still put out for you. Perhaps such intricate concepts are beyond your ability to comprehend. I understand you all too well. Hopefully you are not allowed to use the sharp scissors. Do scissors scare you enough to make you want to ban them? I bet you REALLY hate guns, don't you...
Lurker, I have a nicer computer than you do because I have a better job, not because of some need to fulfill a sexual fantasy. I have no problem with guns. I own a licensed firearm and have my CHL. Nor was I fantasizing about anything with my point to Elliot. So, wrong, wrong and wrong on your assertions. That is ok, I am now certain that you are used to being wrong.
Richard, are you a betting man? I'm here to tell you that this cop is going to
face civil charges as a result of this. If this young girl doesn't already
have an attorney, she will shortly. Those pics are real damaging, despite what
you claim to have seen. Incidentally, eye witnesses make the worst of all
possible witnesses. Give me 10 people at the same scene, all seeing the same
event in real time, and I’ll give you 10 different versions of said event.
The criminal matter is quite different. Here the cop wins (whether right or
wrong). Judges, cops, and lawyers all rely on the fact that a jury would
indict a ham sandwich if presented correctly, and once that happens most folks
cop to a lesser charge. It’s a simple matter of economics; people can’t afford
to fight a fixed system. So, here's the bet. $50 bucks says this cop loses
this matter civilly.
Jethro, Of COURSE he will face civil charges because America has become the nation where everyone is the Victim. It wont go to civil court, however, because she could never win. She was not beaten. All she got a cut on her face because she was taken to the ground after she assaulted a policeman. She does not have a chance in hell in civil court. Especially with the convictions for public intoxication, resisting arrest, and assauting a police officer on her record going into that trial.
FYI, I have a Pacer account and I did a US Party/Case Search of all courts (Texas, 5th Circuit, District & Appellate, Civil & Criminal) for any records involving "Metzinger, Michelle" and there were *no criminal records* and no civil records either. Texas courts are included in the ECF/PACER system and if the records are under her name, they ought to show up. But there were no hits. There was only a Chapter 7 filing for a different METZINGER, in a South Dakota BK court in 1992. So, Richard, as you claim to know about these convictions of record which don't seem to be in the system, would you kindly correct any misspelling I might have in her name or otherwise cite the court and docket numbers wherein the records show Michelle Metzinger has prior convictions for "public intoxication, resisting arrest, and assauting a police officer"?
I did not claim that she had any previous convictions. I stated, if you could READ, that she would surely be convicted of the charges stemming from her conduct on Saturday and that THOSE charges would be introduced if she was foolish enough to press a civil suit. Once again, children, you need to work on READING AND COMPREHENSION.
In your post #203 your exact words are: Of COURSE he will face civil charges because America has become the nation where everyone is the Victim. It wont go to civil court, however, because she could never win. She was not beaten. All she got a cut on her face because she was taken to the ground after she assaulted a policeman. She does not have a chance in hell in civil court. Especially with the convictions for public intoxication, resisting arrest, and assauting a police officer on her record going into that trial. I scanned the entire thread and I don't see where you discussed her conviction on any charges, before your post#203, just her losing a civil complaint because of what you allege to be prior convictions. And following your post #203, the only discssion of convictions were questions posed to you about your post #203. So, if not post #203 (wherein you implied prior convictions on her record) where else in this thread (what post #) did you predict her conviction on the charges of public intoxication, resisting arrest, and assauting a police officer, please?
I will do this REAL SLOW so you can grasp it. She will be CONVICTED of the charges stemming from her conduct on SATURDAY. THOSE CONVICTIONS will be ON HER RECORD going into her CIVIL TRIAL. Ergo, she does not have a chance in hell in civil court. I did NOT imply she had prior convicitons, Starwind. I implied that she would easily be convicted of the charges she incurred Saturday. Wow, you really are not very good at this.
not very good at reading and comprehending what you had not written prior to your clarification? No, you're right. I'm not very good at assumptions and prejudging as you seem to be. I prefer explicit fact, whereas you rely on implication, inuendo, and insult.
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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
#7. To: Neil McIver (#4)
#11. To: Dakmar (#7)
#15. To: Neil McIver (#11)
#38. To: christine (#15)
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
#39. To: All (#38)
#41. To: Neil McIver (#39)
The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
#43. To: All (#42)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
#44. To: ALL (#43)
#48. To: Richard (#44)
As civillians, we need to respect the police.
#53. To: Jethro Tull, Richard, Neil McIver (#48)
we don't have to respect the police
#56. To: Red Jones (#53)
#144. To: Richard, Red Jones (#56)
Wow, you are quite the conspiracy theorist to presume that I am lying about being an eye-witness to this idiotic woman's behavior.
#148. To: FormerLurker (#144)
#155. To: Richard (#148)
I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
#162. To: FormerLurker (#155)
#175. To: Richard (#162)
Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass.
#178. To: FormerLurker (#175)
#186. To: Richard (#178)
#188. To: FormerLurker (#186)
#196. To: Richard (#188)
#203. To: Jethro Tull (#196)
#287. To: Richard, Jethro Tull, Neil McIver, All (#203)
Especially with the convictions for public intoxication, resisting arrest, and assauting a police officer on her record going into that trial
#290. To: Starwind (#287)
Starwind,
#295. To: Richard (#290)
I did not claim that she had any previous convictions.
Jethro,
I stated, if you could READ, that she would surely be convicted of the charges stemming from her conduct on Saturday and that THOSE charges would be introduced if she was foolish enough to press a civil suit.
#298. To: Starwind (#295)
STARWIND...
#302. To: Richard (#298)
you really are not very good at this.
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