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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 13016
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
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Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#13. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
Agreed, but if she attacked the cop, as described, then the rules changed. Maybe she didn't, but it's an important fact to know.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Even granting that she may have been drunk and disorderly, the level of force used to subdue her appears to have been disproportionate. It's not like she was waving an AK47 or something, the primary reason for arrest was to prevent her from hurting herself.
"We have our own values; we build our own special, our JEWISH life - and we are proud, so very proud." - Meir Kahane
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
Yep, those are more than scrapes. The bloody papers in the last photograph are also visible in next-to-last, looks like quite a bit of blood.
"We have our own values; we build our own special, our JEWISH life - and we are proud, so very proud." - Meir Kahane
Just like the discredited US army is responsible for the detainees at Abu Graib
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
YEP. Cops just want to have fun.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Not to sound too harsh, but if that fat prick winds up with one in the head, I won't shed a tear.
If she was drunk, she'd be even easier to control. There looks to be a 200 pound difference bet her and the doughnut muncher.
The white cop in pix #4 would not look the lady in the face -' he is (or should be) ashamed of what he is a part of. I'll say it - the black cop needs hanging. There it is, it's obvious. Yes and on MLK day - I dare say he would agree with me and any other thinking person as well. She may have weighed in at 130 lbs?? Him 220 if an ounce. DISGUSTING- hang him and the chief of police as well. That will help the criminals think about the consequences of their actions.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
And she's on skates. Common sense would dictate either the skates be removed or she be put in back seat of patrol car. Cops made us stop stop racing ten-speed bikes in empty (abandoned) parking lot one time, and we were only a little bit drunk.
"We have our own values; we build our own special, our JEWISH life - and we are proud, so very proud." - Meir Kahane
Yeh a chick in a miniskirt on rolling skates - a real threat to the public safety.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
If the colors of these two were reversed, Sharpton, Jackson and the other racial scumbags would light the town up. Yes, hang the porker.
The cops tried to get me to stop breaking into cars once. Thank goodness I could run!
The mother's pulled down the pics!!!!
The guy who took the pics says someone on the sidewalk made a wisecrack at the girl. She kinda turned halfway to respond to them and that is when the cop flipped out on her. Clearly off the wall and over reaction. Notice that the cop is kneeling on her neck and also has his knee on her spine. I can tell you from experience that is how to really put some serious hurt on someone. And this guy had to weigh in at 250. Some kinda tough guy, NOT. I would have kicked him in the head if I was there and saw the whole thing. Imagine if it was a white cop and a black girl. Half of Dallas and maybe Ft. Worth would be in flames. Here is what the guy said on another forum, The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Probably exceeded bandwidth on the hosting site at tinypic.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Translate, BTP? WIll they be back up?
The Patroit Act is again protecting us. Go back to watching the regularly programmed TV show or rent a movie about the Holocost.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Hate us cause we're free.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I think so. There is a daily bandwidth limit on many of these hosting sites. The first place he had them only lasted a few hours and he reposted them to the new venue. Now it seems that has run out also. Maybe after midnight or some time tomorrow they will be up again. Best thing is to copy the properties links and try to get them later on by linking to them directly and copying them to your HD. My experience in working crowd control tells me this incident stinks to high heaven. I've seen it happen, it's sort of like a gang situation. And what is worse, these thugs are heavily armed.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Back about 15 years ago when I used to bicycle race two of us got pulled over for speeding in a residential speed zone (clocked 31 in a 25). I about lost my mind. True, the town we were in was pretty quiet, but no place is so quiet to warrant pulling two cyclists over for speeding. Cars in the area commonly go faster than that. The cop told us that we were doing well (but not any longer, standing still with heartbeat still at like 160 beats per minute), but that traffic laws applied to us too.
Jethro Tull posted on 2006-01-16 21:47:06 ET Can you imagine the uproar if it were a 240 lb white idiot cop and a 120 lb black fox on roller skates ........................ This beast need to be sent back to Brazzeville, Congo and be eaten by his bros. Sorry if I offened anyone. (Not really).
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
that's one of those *you gotta be shitting me* stories.
All I see is some chick with her face bloodied. I'd be the first one to rail on this situation, but after reading the article, and seeing the pictures, it can go either way as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure she'll be making money off of this with her lawyer, and the cop will likely get a slap on the wrist if anything else happens. People should be less concerned about a black cop and a white idiot getting roughed up, and be more concerned that so many stupid people live in this world and wreck it for the rest of us.
Neil , this girl has every constitutional right to "aggravating the situation." She has the right to tell the officer to fuck off and go find a real criminal. Nothing criminal in that statement.
-- George Bonser
#14. To: Neil McIver, Jethro Tull (#13)
Agreed, but if she attacked the cop, as described, then the rules changed.
#15. To: Neil McIver (#11)
#16. To: christine (#15)
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
#17. To: Dakmar (#7)
t that point she seems to be in custody, and police are responsible for her.
#18. To: christine (#8)
standard CYA.
#19. To: lodwick (#10)
#20. To: Dakmar (#14)
Even granting that she may have been drunk and disorderly, the level of force used to subdue her appears to have been disproportionate.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#24. To: tom007 (#21)
I'll say it - the black cop needs hanging. There it is, it's obvious.
#25. To: Dakmar (#22)
#26. To: All (#25)
#27. To: Neil McIver, Jethro Tull, christine (#4)
We should be sure of all the facts. The story claims witnesses said she was aggravating the situation by attacking the cop. Were the witnesses impartial?
I met up with Amanda outside of Elm St. Tattoo, and there was a derby girl skating from the bar across the street to the tattoo parlor. No big deal. But a cop stopped her to give her a ticket. Well, she gave some attitude, but went with it. Kept her hands on the car while he wrote her a ticket. I crossed the street to the bar, and another skater went past me, nothing happened to her, even though her friend was getting a ticket for skating in the street.... very weird. I turned back around to look at the girl and the cop, and I see him wrestling her to the ground. She's screaming, this tiny girl, is struggling, while about 50 people gather and start yelling. Turns out someone on the sidewalk yelled something to her, she turned to see the person, took her hands off of the car, and the cop got pissed. She gave attitude, I think he shoved her back on the car, so she struggled back up, and he shoved her around.
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
The mother's pulled down the pics!!!!
#29. To: BTP Holdings (#28)
#30. To: BTP Holdings (#27)
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
he mother's pulled down the pics!!!!
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
Translate, BTP? WIll they be back up?
#33. To: Dakmar (#22)
Cops made us stop stop racing ten-speed bikes in empty (abandoned) parking lot one time
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
If the colors of these two were reversed, Sharpton, Jackson and the other racial scumbags would light the town up. Yes, hang the porker.
#35. To: historian1944, TommyTheMadArtist (#33)
#36. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#37. To: Dakmar (#14)
I agree that does appear to be the case.
the level of force used to subdue her appears to have been disproportionate.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#38. To: christine (#15)
That much blood doesn't come from mere scrapes.
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#39. To: All (#38)
The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event rather than giving any kind of testimony of what HE saw happen, and if he didn't see it but speaks as though he did, then that's pretty incriminating as well. It's likely his version of the events is mere heresay, at best. The girl is smart to consult a lawyer before making any public comments.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#40. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Maybe he was just getting some practice in on smacking white girls around, as he hasn't had the chance to get some licks in since his white girlfriend told him to get lost. I wonder if this fat pig would have been so brave had the "subject" been a "banger"...
#41. To: Neil McIver (#39)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman. The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? I'll tell ya, I've wrapped up guys, lean 'n' mean and 15 years younger than me, without giving them so much as a bruise. And this creep thumps this little girl so hard the blood is all over her face. And then his knee on her throat and her spine. I hope these pics really hang him. He went way overboard and now it's time to pay the fiddler. The head hunters will have some fun looking into his record and sending him for new psych tests. ;0)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#43. To: All (#42)
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? Oh, damn, that's from a different story. Oh, it looks as it this Lt. is just a mouthpiece they roll out to make sound bites. Yeah, well, he can bite me too. ;0)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#44. To: ALL (#43)
I was there that night and saw the situation as well. They also took my info as a witness. I side with the police on this one, sorry. The girl who got arrested was stoned out of her mind, argumentative and clearly off her nut. I had seen her and her friend earlier skating on Main Street. They were skating on the sidewalk at that time, and they fell down numerous times as well as nearly crashed drunkenly into lines of people waiting to get into clubs. She had been warned by the police on Main Street about her conduct before she was finally ticketed and arrested on Elm Street. The "tiny girl" on skates had been told before not to skate in the street by the police, and as you said, was arrested and in the process of being ticketed for her conduct. She was breaking the law. Right now, the most common arrest in Deep Ellum is NOT assault, breaking and entering, or any other violent crime; it is PUBLIC INTOXICATION. Michelle was a prime object lesson for this. She was arrested, and not only failed to follow the instructions of the police, she was an ass about it. She was skating in the middle of a BUSY street, if she had been hit by a car, you would all be crawling up the butt of the police asking why they DIDN'T stop her from skating in the street. Or are you now advocating that people go roller skating in the middle of a busy street on a weekend night? Perhaps we should have a skating party on the 75 next Saturday? As civillians, we need to respect the police. Even if we disagree with them. There are structures in place to dispute the actions of the police. The middle of Elm Street is NOT a place to do this. Also, you NEVER have a right to swing at a police officer, even if you are drunk. It is their job to protect us from harm, even when that harm is coming from our own actions (like a drunken girl who wants to rollerskate in the MIDDLE OF A BUSY STREET). You laughingly play it down as she gave "a little attitude" when in fact she was extremely disrespectful and got what she deserved. She was intoxicated, breaking the law and endangering her life and the lives of the drivers in the area, I really don't see how her weight comes into play there. She resisted arrest, and fell to the ground in the scuffle, so what? I would be FAR more concerned if the officer was NOT able to control her. So she got cut... big deal. She resisted arrest. She should not have done that. The officer has been on the force for 12 years and has been written up 3 times. That is immaterial. It does not show a "pattern" of abusive behavior. Clearly each incident was addressed or he would not be serving on the force presently. It is hack journalism to try to paint the police officer as being in the wrong for doing his job because of 3 write ups over a 12 YEAR SPAN. She was drunk and under arrest, she should not have resisted. Had she not resisted, she would have been ticketed and relased... unharmed. It is amazing that you all are trying to portray this idiotic, offensive and drunken female as a victim... The cops did their job, and did it well. She got what she deserved. Perhaps you all will learn a little respect the police from this lesson.
#45. To: Richard (#44)
Hi Richard, First, welcome to 4um. I'm sure your account will inspire a lot of commentary. A few questions: Did you see her "swing" at the police officer? She wasn't simply "cut" as you suggest. Her face was badly scraped up and there is enough blood in the street to form a small puddle. How can you suggest the officer used sufficient minimal force, as police are supposed to be trained to do, with that kind of harm inflicted? I for one don't defend reckless behavior that endangers others. But being drunk and/or stoned and argumentative does not justify overwhelming crushing force. Even if she did take a swing at the officer, it does not justify scraping her face against the road and cutting her so badly.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#46. To: Richard (#44)
She got what she deserved. Perhaps you all will learn a little respect the police from this lesson. You were doing pretty good until the last couple of lines. Saying that "she got what she deserved" and "perhaps you all will learn a little respect" is where you went over the high side. I remember my stepfather and the discussions we had concerning things like liberty and privacy, and his big answer was always "if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about". Trying to explain why that was wrong to him was like trying to explain calculus to a chimpanzee, he simply had no facility to be able to understand the concept, it was utterly beyond him, and sadly that proved true about all of his cop friends as well. Some people understand liberty, most people don't. Those who spout sayings like "she got what she deserved" and "perhaps you will learn a little respect" fall into the camp of those who don't.
The cops did their job, and did it well.
 | Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#47. To: Neil McIver (#45)
Neil, Yes, I did see her swing at the officer. She was cut on the face, and facial lacerations bleed a lot. She was not severly harmed. The bottom line is simple: If she had not resisted, she would not have been harmed, nor taken into custody. She would have been cited and released. If you are trying to say that it is "ok" for her to take a swing at a police officer, then you lose from the start. In whose world is it "ok" to swing on the people who are here to protect us from the kinds of people who have such disregard for our society that they would swing on the police? She got what she deserved.
"Even if she did take a swing at the officer, it does not justify scraping her face against the road and cutting her so badly."
#48. To: Richard (#44)
Hi Richard, and welcome. About the above comment, no, we don't have to respect the police. I don't and I was a member for years. Today they've become nothing more that revenue collectors for local government - heavy handed ones at that. What they did to this girl is the real crime, imo. Having spent nearly 15 years on the NYPD, beginning in the late 60's, I saw lots of serious criminal activity. Roller skating, even under the influence, isn't one of them. I can think of countless ways a 250 pound, trained police officer could have handled this, but this guy seemingly chose the least civilian friendly method. I believe a Dallas PD spokesman (Watson) was interviewed for the article? Well, let the spin begin. This goof is going to need spin. Those pictures paint an ugly picture. If this were my daughter that cop would have one pissed off ex cop all over his butt. Lets see how this all shakes out. At the very least the guy should be fired, sued and possibly jailed.
As civillians, we need to respect the police.
#49. To: Elliott Jackalope (#46)
Elliot, She did get what she deserved, and you all are showing a great amount of disrespect for the police. Your stepfather was right, if you are not doing anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about. Michelle WAS doing things wrong, MANY things. She was intoxicated in public. She was rollerskating in the middle of a busy street. She was NOT listening respectfully to the police when they tried to peacefully resolve the matter. She was resisting arrest. So... The cops did their job, and they did it well. If you don't respect the police, then you don't respect society, Elliot. The police are put in place by society to keep us safe from people like Michelle. If I had been driving down Elm and hit her because she was rollerskating in the street because the police saw her and did nothing, you would be screaming at the police for their inaction. Can't have it both ways, Elliot. The police did their job, they stopped someone who was breaking the law. She got what she deserved and perhaps will learn NOT to resist arrest next time.
#50. To: Richard (#49)
We are going to have to agree to disagree, Richard. I don't respect the police, not any longer, not when they say things like "ignorance of the law is no excuse" but then cannot even tell me how many laws there are that I have no right to be ignorant of. The line is drawn, you are on one side and I am on the other. At least you are honorable enough to have a clear position and the will to defend it, but I will never agree with those who believe that "if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about".
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#51. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
Hi Jethro, First off, I appreciate and acknowledge your service to this country. That said, in this instance, you were not present at the scene, I was. The girl was rollerskating in the middle of a busy street and the police asked her nicely to stop. She did not. Then, when they were going to give her a ticket for her actions, she got violent. The police begain with a civillain friendly method - Michelle chose to take Door #2. Are you suggesting, as a 15 year vet of the NYPD, that if a woman took a swing at you that you would simply laugh it off and release her? I don't think so. The officer in question subdued his attacker, plain and simple. He should not be fired, sued nor jailed for his actions. You were not there, Jethro, I was.
#52. To: Richard (#49)
I'd feel safer with Michelle keeping me safe from your cop
The police are put in place by society to keep us safe from people like Michelle.
#53. To: Jethro Tull, Richard, Neil McIver (#48)
I agree with you JT. I'm sure there's a lot of fine police fellows, just as there are in any profession. even among drug smugglers there's some fine people. but the police in this country have done so many horrible things. How can we respect them any more! As far as Richard's commentary - I am skeptical of it. an eye-witness - how convenient. there's no excuse for drawing all that blood from someone, especially a woman.
we don't have to respect the police
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