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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 14390
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
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Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#316. To: Dakmar (#315)
Neil did not make a "Factual Statement." He made an assertion, and it was incorrect. Again, nice try, and thanks so much for playing.
SO now she's a YAHOO? Richard, your pending testimony is worthless.
He said a defense attorney is a representative of the court. It's no one's mistake but yours that you read that as "representing the interests" of the court. Once again, a defense lawyer, being an officer of the court, is by definition a representative of the court.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
Makes me want to give Metzingers lawyer a call...
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
This info might be worth a few bucks to him :) Our friend Richard has impeached himself with his overt bias.
A Defense Lawyer is an Officer Of The Court. That does not mean that they speak FOR the court. It means that they can speak TO the court. The are not the representative of the COURT, they are the representative of the DEFENDANT. Once again, you fail to grasp the situation at hand. Just because YOU read the wrong meaning into the word does not excuse your ignorance.
You go right ahead... see how far it gets you. LOL
I read a factual statemment. You read more into it than was there.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
Sadly you would not know a "factual statement" if it bit you on the lip. Neil did not make a factual statment. He made an ASSERTION. Again, your ignorance of the truth is no defense.
So a defense attorney is not an officer of the court?
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
Welcome to the website for the State of Delaware Public Defender's Office. The office was created to preserve the constitutional rights of indigent defendants in criminal cases, through the assistance of counsel, at every stage of the adjudication process. In addition, case law has established that the Public Defender, as an officer of the court, has the professional duty to assist the court in every reasonable way in the improvement of justice. Golly, Richard, that sure sounds like a representative to me.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
Random is the means by which it is impartial. The state should not be specifically screening out people that disagree with the law, which it does. What's wrong with that? Is there something wrong with homeless people? You could also get 12 people that were unfairly charged with DUI. Odds are though that you'd get people associated with both sides. Since it takes a unanimous vote to convict, even having 11 related to a drunk driving death (which is very unlikely) would still need that 12th vote to convict. Oh, I most certainly do. I'm just not indoctrinated by the modern broken legal system as you seem to be. That's what the system likes to preach. But as long as one can only have a lawyer approved by the court to represent one's case, and that the judge can adversely impact the attorney's career, then there's a problem. I'm not going to get into a silly argument over whether that constitutes "represent". Call it what you will if not that. What a stupid comment. I suppose everyone should just trust you without question? Another stupid comment.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Noooooooooo.........!!!! Keep the fruitcake. It's just too fitting.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Seems this is a big issue to you. Yes, it is possible for the lawyer to represent the court and the client. I've no interest in arguing it further, so if you disagree, fine.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Lord you are a dolt. A defense attorney IS an officer of the court. That is NOT to say he is a representative of the court. He does, in no way, REPRESENT the court. He represents his CLIENT.
He is a representative of the CLIENT in the courtroom, Dakmar. He knows how the court system works, but does not represent their interests, except to say that EVERYONE should be interested in the improvement of justice. But he is NOT the representative of the court, and the statement you quoted in NO way implies that he is. Sorry, wrong again.
ROFLMAO! RANDOM IS THE MEANS BY WHICH IT IS IMPARTIAL??? In whose universe? In the 1940s, a black defendant had NO chance of having a black person his jury because there were no black people allowed on juries. Female defendants were denied female jurors in the same fashion. Would you consider those to be IMPARTIAL jury pools simply because they are randomly selected? Random selection of the jury pool ensures that no one had a hand in selecting the potential jurors. Voi Dire ensures that the actual jurors are not fettered with undue prejudices, like having a woman who lost her son to a drunk driver the month before serving on a jury for a DUI case. Both the prosecution AND the defense get to eliminate potential jurors from the pool, you moron. "Is there something wrong with homeless people?" You can't be on the jury pool if you are not a registered voter. Homeless people don't vote and thus are not valid jurors. There is nothing "wrong" with them, they are just not candidates in our system. Neil, how do you support your claim that you have an understanding of the system of juris prudence in this country? Your innane ramblings go to prove the contrary As for your ridiculous notion about the relationship between attorneys and judges... you really show how little you know about the law. MOST attorneys never take a case before a trial judge in their careers. Furthermore, the judge in NO WAY holds the sway that you are trying to imply over any attorney. Wow, you are clueless about the legal system in this country. You need to stop reading those John Grisham novels. It is amazing how myopic you have allowed yourself to become, Neil. Sadly, it is not surprising.
This is the BEST evidence that you don't know what you are talking about... "You could also get 12 people that were unfairly charged with DUI. Odds are though that you'd get people associated with both sides. Since it takes a unanimous vote to convict, even having 11 related to a drunk driving death (which is very unlikely) would still need that 12th vote to convict." It does NOT always take a unanimous verdict to convict. Depends upon the case. Furthermore, a jury of 12 people unfairly charged with DUI would not be an IMPARTIAL jury either. Both panels of jurist would be disqualified.
Hoo mee? Howd yu no i dint got out of high skool.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
For real? Cool. Send me your info in 4 mail. If I score, we'll go drinking and roller skating.
Nicely done!
I didn't say I would assist you in any way. I said that you should go ahead with your master plan. Enjoy...
Actually, you can't assist anyone in any way. But we've been down this
road....
Nice try, and thanks for playing... but if I am called to testify, I will do so with a clear conscience. If I am called to testify, it certainly will not be by the defense. However, I doubt that she will take this case to court. She will plead out in the next three weeks. And then that will be the last you hear of her abortive attempt at a civil case... it will fade quietly into the woodwork.
Uhhh... no. If blacks and females are not selected, then obviously it's not random. I don't think "random" means what you think it means. Have a nice one, fruitcake.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. At that time, they were picking from the available jurors. Blacks and females were not available. So why is that not "random" to you? You are picking at random from the available pool.
"There was a show at the LIQUID LOUNGE, even though the flyer said Lizard lounge, and it WASN'T free, for some of our Dallas derby girls. I met up with Amanda outside of Elm St. Tattoo, and there was a derby girl skating from the bar across the street to the tattoo parlor. No big deal. But a cop stopped her to give her a ticket. Well, she gave some attitude, but went with it. Kept her hands on the car while he wrote her a ticket. I crossed the street to the bar, and another skater went past me, nothing happened to her, even though her friend was getting a ticket for skating in the street.... very wierd. I turned back around to look at the girl and the cop, and I see him wrestling her to the ground. She's screaming, this tiny girl, is struggling, while about 50 people gather and start yelling. Turns out someone on the sidewalk yelled something to her, she turned to see the person, took her hands off of the car, and the cop got pissed. She gave attitude, I think he shoved her back on the car, so she stuggled back up, and he shoved her around. He was at least 200 pounds. She was about 100. Her face was bloody. I have a few pictures. I was questions, they got my info to call me. I hope they do. Honestly, this whole mess makes me fucking sick and sad. I want to be a cop, so it's not like I'm against them. About 6 more cop cars showed up. 18 cops. One ambulance. They're treating us, including us ones trying to be helpful and nice, like shit. And when we're explaining it to other people, they yelling at us, and threating us "we'll give you tickets for standing on the street, we don't care!" What.... what the hell? How ignorant. The girl got checked up, seemed fine, and then they took her off to jail.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
You keep saying that, all full of sound and fury, but the fact is that Neil's original statement was: That is what you are putting all this time, energy, and negative energy into? That could never be proven in court, although it is absolutely true. No one ever claimed defense lawyers were biased toward the judge, which is either a very silly or very corrupt notion to begin with. As Billy Jack once said, "When the police break the law then there is no law, just a fight for survival."
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
the situation wasn't funny, but your wording there is. :P I know how much it bugs some people, women in particular, if a person has a little something attached to their face. I know cookie crumbs can sometimes get caught in facial hair. I once had an inebriated roommate with a piece of a hotdog bun seemingly magically attached to his cheek. Trust me, these things eventually fall off on their own though. In my case, good old fashioned guy instincts came into play. I ignored the problem on the hopes that it went away. It worked. The dog wandered off. It is a miracle anything gets done around me these days after verifying that important life lesson, lol. I never did mind about the little things. - Maggie (Bridget Fonda), Point of No Return
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious i knew you were an extra smart one. :P
So close and yet so far... but you nearly are on point.
You said that "No one ever claimed defense lawyers were baised toward the judge, which is a very silly or very corrupt notion to begin with." Well, hate to prove you wrong again, but Neil sure pointed his finger in that direction when he said "But as long as one can only have a lawyer approved by the court to represent one's case, and that the judge can adversely impact the attorney's career, then there's a problem." Wrong again, little sister. You REALLY are not very good at this, Dakmar.
What are you talking about "Maybe I shouldn't have fucked with Tom?" Like he is anything to worry about? He was not there and is going off hearsay. Yes, I did read the account you posted, and that is this other person's point of view. It sounds to me like they were at least at the scene. Even they state that the girl seemed fine before going to jail... not beaten as some of you reactionaries would try to state. As for the police telling people they would get tickets for standing in the street... well, it is illegal to stand in the street, so I don't have a problem with that. Odd that they would mention that, but hey, they have their point own point of view. Of course, according to Neil, this is not an unbiased witness either becuase they are clearly against the police, lol. Still don't see how this has anything to do with Tom or why I should give two soft craps about him or his opinion...
This is the BEST evidence that you don't know what you are talking about... "You could also get 12 people that were unfairly charged with DUI. Odds are though that you'd get people associated with both sides. Since it takes a unanimous vote to convict, even having 11 related to a drunk driving death (which is very unlikely) would still need that 12th vote to convict." It does NOT always take a unanimous verdict to convict. Depends upon the case. Furthermore, a jury of 12 people unfairly charged with DUI would not be an IMPARTIAL jury either. Both panels of jurist would be disqualified. Richard posted on 2006-01-20 17:19:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply I take it that you are either hired or employed by a law office to represent the violent officer, and are "seeding" the false testimoney you plan to present to the court by offering these conversations as evidence of your actually being at the crime site. You a sicko, Richard. Doing it for money.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Maybe when YOUR wife's head is ground into the asphalt, or yours, by the state, "for your own good" you'll come to what little senses you have. You could have done this so much better, BTY, because maybe the women was aggresive. I don't think she was, but possibly. Your trooper boot licking mindset, coupled with your arrogent, pompous, I'm of course right and you are all BOOGERS on my moustache, attitude, didn't get you far. And don't try to tell me your wife's head could never be ground into the asphalt, or yours. The police state has a mind of it's own. And that is the problem.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You were not their either. Did your check clear from the Law Office retained by the PO representing him?? Enjoy the pices of silver.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I am not affiliated with the city of Dallas, I do not work for or with the Dallas Police department, I do not know Officer Gordon nor do I work for or with him in any capacity. I am not employed by a law office nor am I hired by anyone to represent the interests of any of the parties involved in this matter. I was simply at the scene and saw the incident unfold. I already gave my statement to the police at the scene, so it does not matter what I say here. I don't see how I could benefit from "seeding" any testimony on this board as none of you would be able to be jurors. Anyone who participates in this thread would not survive Voi Dire to make it on the jury for this case... unless of course they lied, which I am now sure many of you would do. Then again, this case will NEVER go to trial. Michelle will plead out inside of three weeks and her pretend civil suit will disappear right behind it. Sorry, Tom, but you weren't there and I was... so I have a lot better vantage point on this matter than you do... your so called "violent officer" simply put a violent offender in handcuffs. Other than the little cut on her face, she was not significantly injured. You are the one stating that he is a "violent officer" although there is no evidence to support that statement. He subdued a subject, and according to ANOTHER eyewitness at the scene stated after she was handcuffed following her assault on the officer that "the girl got checked up, seemed fine..." That is not the expected result of a 100 lb girl (how do you all know how much this chick weighed, by the way?) being savaged by a 250 lb "violent officer".
If my wife was drunk in public, rollerskating on the middle of busy streets and resisting arrest, I would say she got what was coming to her. Of course, my wife has a good deal more sense than to exhibit such wantonly reckless behavior. Michelle is a professional rollerderby chick, so she is naturally more violent and reckless. Don't think that little fact wouldn't come up in court if she tried to take this to a jury. She fights for a living and now claims she was a helpless victim? ROFL Anyone who choses to resist arrest should expect to meet a similar fate to Michelle.
I was most certainly there, otherwise the police would not have taken my statement. I was standing in front of July Alley, which is right next to the tatoo parlor where all of this started. I was amused that they were cooking food on a little barbque grill in front of the tattoo parlor. It is curious to see that you feel ANYONE who disagrees with you (even though YOU weren't there) must be a shill. I was there, I saw what I saw. You weren't there, you saw nothing.
I have to imagine the Law office that heired the goon Richard is going to order a "Stop Pay" on his retainer check when the partners read the 4um thread. Martha Stewart says "Thats A Good Thing".
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
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#317. To: Richard (#308)
Of COURSE she is. Every yahoo who gets arrested tries to sue the police, it is the national pastime.
#318. To: Richard (#316)
He made an assertion, and it was incorrect.
#319. To: Jethro Tull (#317)
#320. To: Dakmar (#319)
Makes me want to give Metzingers lawyer a call...
#321. To: Dakmar (#318)
Dakmar,
#322. To: Jethro Tull (#320)
Jethro,
#323. To: Richard (#321)
Just because YOU read the wrong meaning into the word does not excuse your ignorance.
#324. To: Dakmar (#323)
Dakmar,
#325. To: Richard (#324)
#326. To: Richard (#324)
#327. To: Richard (#293)
Voi dire is designed to ensure that it is impartial.
If it was random you could not be assured of being judged by a jury of your peers. You could have 12 homeless guys in the jury box under your system.
Well, then you could be before the courts on a DUI charge and have a jury full of people who recently lost their husband or wife to a drunk driver that never got charged or convicted of their crimes.
You really don't have a clue what you are talking about, Neil.
You can't represent BOTH the Court and your client as an attorney. You have to represent ONE OR THE OTHER.
I am not "claiming" to be a witness, I AM a witness to this event.
However, my "bias" does not impede my ability to see a situation and accurately report what I saw.
-- George Bonser
#328. To: Dakmar (#313)
I take back my fruitcake remark,
-- George Bonser
#329. To: Richard (#316)
-- George Bonser
#330. To: Dakmar (#325)
Dakmar,
#331. To: Dakmar (#326)
Dakmar
#332. To: Neil McIver (#327)
Neil:
#333. To: Neil McIver (#327)
Neil,
#334. To: Richard (#296)
It is a wonder any of you got out of high school with your inability to read and comprehend basic statements.
#335. To: Richard (#322)
You go right ahead... see how far it gets you.
#336. To: Hmmmmm (#334)
LOL Hmmmmm
#337. To: Jethro Tull (#335)
Jethro,
#338. To: Richard (#337)
I didn't say I would assist you in any way.
#339. To: Jethro Tull (#338)
Jethro,
#340. To: Richard (#332)
In the 1940s, a black defendant had NO chance of having a black person his jury because there were no black people allowed on juries. Female defendants were denied female jurors in the same fashion. Would you consider those to be IMPARTIAL jury pools simply because they are randomly selected?
-- George Bonser
#341. To: Neil McIver (#340)
Neil,
#342. To: All (#341)
Perhaps NOW you see how "Random" does not ensure "Impartial" in any way.
#343. To: Richard (#342)
Richard I think maybe you shouldn't have fucked with Tom, yours isn't the only story out there.
#344. To: Richard (#331)
Sorry, wrong again.
"As long as they hold a license to "represent" clients, they also represent the courts."
#345. To: christine (#263)
At one point in my life I had an 80 pound German Shepherd attached to mine for a few moments.
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
There are 9,000 hedge funds out there. There aren't that many smart people in the world. - Michael Driscoll, a trader at Bear Stearns & Co. in New York
Some days you just want to pull out the Bonehead Stick and beat people senseless. - mirage
#346. To: markm0722 (#345)
In my case, good old fashioned guy instincts came into play.
#347. To: Dakmar (#344)
Dakmar,
#348. To: Dakmar (#344)
Dakmar,
#349. To: Hmmmmm (#343)
Hmmmmmm...
#350. To: Richard, neil mciver, zipporah, christine (#333)
eil,
#351. To: All (#350)
#352. To: Richard (#349)
He was not there and is going off hearsay.
#353. To: tom007 (#350)
Again, Tom... I will say this for you slowly in case you didn't understand all the words the last time.
#354. To: tom007 (#351)
Tom,
#355. To: tom007 (#352)
Tom,
#356. To: Jethro Tull (#317)
SO now she's a YAHOO? Richard, your pending testimony is worthless.
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