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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 13008
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
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Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#343. To: Richard (#342)
"There was a show at the LIQUID LOUNGE, even though the flyer said Lizard lounge, and it WASN'T free, for some of our Dallas derby girls. I met up with Amanda outside of Elm St. Tattoo, and there was a derby girl skating from the bar across the street to the tattoo parlor. No big deal. But a cop stopped her to give her a ticket. Well, she gave some attitude, but went with it. Kept her hands on the car while he wrote her a ticket. I crossed the street to the bar, and another skater went past me, nothing happened to her, even though her friend was getting a ticket for skating in the street.... very wierd. I turned back around to look at the girl and the cop, and I see him wrestling her to the ground. She's screaming, this tiny girl, is struggling, while about 50 people gather and start yelling. Turns out someone on the sidewalk yelled something to her, she turned to see the person, took her hands off of the car, and the cop got pissed. She gave attitude, I think he shoved her back on the car, so she stuggled back up, and he shoved her around. He was at least 200 pounds. She was about 100. Her face was bloody. I have a few pictures. I was questions, they got my info to call me. I hope they do. Honestly, this whole mess makes me fucking sick and sad. I want to be a cop, so it's not like I'm against them. About 6 more cop cars showed up. 18 cops. One ambulance. They're treating us, including us ones trying to be helpful and nice, like shit. And when we're explaining it to other people, they yelling at us, and threating us "we'll give you tickets for standing on the street, we don't care!" What.... what the hell? How ignorant. The girl got checked up, seemed fine, and then they took her off to jail.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
You keep saying that, all full of sound and fury, but the fact is that Neil's original statement was: That is what you are putting all this time, energy, and negative energy into? That could never be proven in court, although it is absolutely true. No one ever claimed defense lawyers were biased toward the judge, which is either a very silly or very corrupt notion to begin with. As Billy Jack once said, "When the police break the law then there is no law, just a fight for survival."
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
the situation wasn't funny, but your wording there is. :P I know how much it bugs some people, women in particular, if a person has a little something attached to their face. I know cookie crumbs can sometimes get caught in facial hair. I once had an inebriated roommate with a piece of a hotdog bun seemingly magically attached to his cheek. Trust me, these things eventually fall off on their own though. In my case, good old fashioned guy instincts came into play. I ignored the problem on the hopes that it went away. It worked. The dog wandered off. It is a miracle anything gets done around me these days after verifying that important life lesson, lol. I never did mind about the little things. - Maggie (Bridget Fonda), Point of No Return
When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious i knew you were an extra smart one. :P
So close and yet so far... but you nearly are on point.
You said that "No one ever claimed defense lawyers were baised toward the judge, which is a very silly or very corrupt notion to begin with." Well, hate to prove you wrong again, but Neil sure pointed his finger in that direction when he said "But as long as one can only have a lawyer approved by the court to represent one's case, and that the judge can adversely impact the attorney's career, then there's a problem." Wrong again, little sister. You REALLY are not very good at this, Dakmar.
What are you talking about "Maybe I shouldn't have fucked with Tom?" Like he is anything to worry about? He was not there and is going off hearsay. Yes, I did read the account you posted, and that is this other person's point of view. It sounds to me like they were at least at the scene. Even they state that the girl seemed fine before going to jail... not beaten as some of you reactionaries would try to state. As for the police telling people they would get tickets for standing in the street... well, it is illegal to stand in the street, so I don't have a problem with that. Odd that they would mention that, but hey, they have their point own point of view. Of course, according to Neil, this is not an unbiased witness either becuase they are clearly against the police, lol. Still don't see how this has anything to do with Tom or why I should give two soft craps about him or his opinion...
This is the BEST evidence that you don't know what you are talking about... "You could also get 12 people that were unfairly charged with DUI. Odds are though that you'd get people associated with both sides. Since it takes a unanimous vote to convict, even having 11 related to a drunk driving death (which is very unlikely) would still need that 12th vote to convict." It does NOT always take a unanimous verdict to convict. Depends upon the case. Furthermore, a jury of 12 people unfairly charged with DUI would not be an IMPARTIAL jury either. Both panels of jurist would be disqualified. Richard posted on 2006-01-20 17:19:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply I take it that you are either hired or employed by a law office to represent the violent officer, and are "seeding" the false testimoney you plan to present to the court by offering these conversations as evidence of your actually being at the crime site. You a sicko, Richard. Doing it for money.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Maybe when YOUR wife's head is ground into the asphalt, or yours, by the state, "for your own good" you'll come to what little senses you have. You could have done this so much better, BTY, because maybe the women was aggresive. I don't think she was, but possibly. Your trooper boot licking mindset, coupled with your arrogent, pompous, I'm of course right and you are all BOOGERS on my moustache, attitude, didn't get you far. And don't try to tell me your wife's head could never be ground into the asphalt, or yours. The police state has a mind of it's own. And that is the problem.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You were not their either. Did your check clear from the Law Office retained by the PO representing him?? Enjoy the pices of silver.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I am not affiliated with the city of Dallas, I do not work for or with the Dallas Police department, I do not know Officer Gordon nor do I work for or with him in any capacity. I am not employed by a law office nor am I hired by anyone to represent the interests of any of the parties involved in this matter. I was simply at the scene and saw the incident unfold. I already gave my statement to the police at the scene, so it does not matter what I say here. I don't see how I could benefit from "seeding" any testimony on this board as none of you would be able to be jurors. Anyone who participates in this thread would not survive Voi Dire to make it on the jury for this case... unless of course they lied, which I am now sure many of you would do. Then again, this case will NEVER go to trial. Michelle will plead out inside of three weeks and her pretend civil suit will disappear right behind it. Sorry, Tom, but you weren't there and I was... so I have a lot better vantage point on this matter than you do... your so called "violent officer" simply put a violent offender in handcuffs. Other than the little cut on her face, she was not significantly injured. You are the one stating that he is a "violent officer" although there is no evidence to support that statement. He subdued a subject, and according to ANOTHER eyewitness at the scene stated after she was handcuffed following her assault on the officer that "the girl got checked up, seemed fine..." That is not the expected result of a 100 lb girl (how do you all know how much this chick weighed, by the way?) being savaged by a 250 lb "violent officer".
If my wife was drunk in public, rollerskating on the middle of busy streets and resisting arrest, I would say she got what was coming to her. Of course, my wife has a good deal more sense than to exhibit such wantonly reckless behavior. Michelle is a professional rollerderby chick, so she is naturally more violent and reckless. Don't think that little fact wouldn't come up in court if she tried to take this to a jury. She fights for a living and now claims she was a helpless victim? ROFL Anyone who choses to resist arrest should expect to meet a similar fate to Michelle.
I was most certainly there, otherwise the police would not have taken my statement. I was standing in front of July Alley, which is right next to the tatoo parlor where all of this started. I was amused that they were cooking food on a little barbque grill in front of the tattoo parlor. It is curious to see that you feel ANYONE who disagrees with you (even though YOU weren't there) must be a shill. I was there, I saw what I saw. You weren't there, you saw nothing.
I have to imagine the Law office that heired the goon Richard is going to order a "Stop Pay" on his retainer check when the partners read the 4um thread. Martha Stewart says "Thats A Good Thing".
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You were NOT. YOU ARE A PAID SHILL BY THE LAW OFFICE REPRESENTING THE PO THAT COMMITTETED CRIMES AGAINST THE DEFENDENT. YOU ARE INTENDING TO COMMIT A FRAUD UPON THE COURT. THAT IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE., RICHARD.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You are free to jump on your conspiracy bandwagon and ride it all the way into town. I have not been hired by anyone involved with this case in any way, nor am I working in any capacity with this case. My "pending testimony" won't involve any of the conversation on this thread, just in case you were thinking it would. It would involve what I saw at the scene, nothing more. Surely they would have many witnesses, for the defense and for the prosecution, and there would be many different versions of what occurred... that is IF this ever went to trial, which it wont. This is a simple slam dunk case, public intoxication, resisting arrest and assaulting an officer. If she gets a decent attorney, she will more than likely plead it down in the next three weeks to the PI and a Disorderly Conduct, pay her fines, and be let go with time served. She will at that point have no shot at a civil case. Tom, you are forgetting that this "frail little 100 lb girl" is a professional roller derby chick. She fights for a living. She can't make a convincing argument in civil court that she was just sitting there sober as a church-mouse, minding her own business, and the big bad police came and jumped on her when she had just gotten thru fighting with a dozen other women on rollerskates all night.
You are sadly mistaken. I was most certainly there. Whether or not you believe me is immaterial. I gave my statement to the officers at the scene, and they believed me, which matters a great deal. I am not intending to commit any fraud. Tom, this case will never go to court, she will plead it out as soon as she can. Sorry, Rumplestiltskien, but you can't change what I saw by screaming... LOL
Impressive spelling. I am awed.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
They believed you! Now there's a shocker. They need all the help they can get, even if it's from a flawed witness. Yes, this case will weave its way through the system. The sharks smell blood :)
Maybe so. With the Police not contesting the charges, the citizens of Dallas will pay $75000 to close the case, the Law Office will collect 40% of that. Nice scam you seem to be a part of. Sicko cop beats up girl on skates, you get money for being a shill. Have a good night. Ever think about carpentry for a living? Most of the carpenters I know are pretty happy people.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
If you actually were a cop, then you know that as well as I do. She will plead this out before Valentine's Day and will never be heard from again. She can't make the civil case work. She was barely scratched as a result of her resisting arrest, she was not beaten, no broken bones. Her injuries came as a result of her resisting arrest, and they were trivial. Sorry, Aqualung, but in this case you are Thick As A Brick. She will plead out as fast as she can and go Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day. (high fives to me for the fantastic JT refs)
"Sicko Cop Beats Up Girl???" Where did this happen? She was never beaten, Tom. He did not strike her even once. Hard to make the case for beating her up if she only has a scratch on her face. Oh, and please show me your evidence for me being a paid shill of someone involved with this case, this should prove most amusing. You know you have nowhere to stand so you resort to attempting to impune me with your ridiculous and unsupported statements. Just shows that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. Oh, and I am a very happy person, I enjoy my life. You are the one who is spouting all the hatred around here, Tom... sounds like life is not to happy in your neighborhood. Then again, when I see the nonsense you post, I am not surprised that you are just angry and bitter at the world.
Hard to make the case for beating her up if she only has a scratch on her face. I will let your words stand on their own. That is all that is necessary.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
So now you concede that she was, in fact, NOT beaten, and that you are just trying to inflame a situation that you were not present at because of some pictures that you saw and your mistrust of the police. Good to see.
You know you have nowhere to stand so you resort to attempting to impune me with your ridiculous and unsupported statements. Just shows that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. Oh, and I am a very happy person, I enjoy my life. You are the one who is spouting all the hatred around here, Tom... sounds like life is not to happy in your neighborhood. Then again, when I see the nonsense you post, I am not surprised that you are just angry and bitter at the world. Richard posted on 2006-01-20 22:46:34 ET No Richard, this is why you are a shill for the state.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
You know you have nowhere to stand so you resort to attempting to impune me with your ridiculous and unsupported statements. Just shows that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. Oh, and I am a very happy person, I enjoy my life. You are the one who is spouting all the hatred around here, Tom... sounds like life is not to happy in your neighborhood. Then again, when I see the nonsense you post, I am not surprised that you are just angry and bitter at the world. Richard posted on 2006-01-20 22:46:34 ET You are getting a little nutty, pal.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Ah..., make that Double Nutty, if you please.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Trial? I told you earlier the criminal case is a foregone conclusion. Cops win here. It's about punitive damage at this point. The rules of evidence are different, as you might or might not know. The visual of this kid in court with beef-boy is amusing. The city will pay large to get out of this mess, and beef- boy will be taken off the street and tucked away in the property clerk for the next 10 years. As It Is Written, So Shall it Be Done.
How am I a shill for the state? I am not employed by them nor am I to receive any compensation for relating what I saw to the authorities. This case will never go to trial, so I don't understand why you are worried about my eye-witness testimony, as it will never be asked of me in court. YOU are the one who is getting a little nutty, Tom.
Get a whiff of reality. She is charged with Public Intoxication, Resisting Arrest and Assaulting a Police Officer. She pleads to PI and Resisting Arrest so they let her go on the more serious Assualting an Officer charge. Fine. So now she tries to go to civil court saying that the little scratch she got was excessive force, when she fights for a LIVING and admits she resisted arrest? ROFLMAO. Perhaps you were not a very good police officer, Jethro, but those of us in the real world know that she won't try to sing that song, as the band wont play. The city will pay nothing to get out of this mess, because there IS no mess. Officer Gordon will not be moved off the street, but hopefully Michelle will have learned her lesson about drinking and listening to the police.
So now you concede that she was, in fact, NOT beaten, and that you are just trying to inflame a situation that you were not present at because of some pictures that you saw and your mistrust of the police. Good to see. Richard posted on 2006-01-20 22:52:24 ET Man - you're a real deal case. Hope the check clears - though I don't think the law firm is going the 4um ever again for the corraboration. Hang the black cop, and hang the white cop that went along with it. That will send a "message" to the rest of the criminals in the LEC to watch out. Or are they your gods on earth?
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
She was never beaten, Tom. He did not strike her even once. Hard to make the case for beating her up if she only has a scratch on her face. I will let your words stand on their own. That is all that is necessary. You stated that you will let my words stand on their own, you did not refute them. So you are saying that you agree with them. She was NOT beaten. She fought with the police and ended up with a scratch on her face. She was never struck, which is a crucial element in a good beating. A scratch on her face from falling to the ground after fighting with the police is not a beating in anyone's book.
Please show me, Richard, where I am worried about his, Richard? Thanks in advance Richard. Or do you just make thinks up, Richard?? Richard, are you there?? Or is is spelled Richeared?
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Wow, what a careful and measured response you have issued here. Hang two police officers, one for successfully detaining a suspect who resisted arrest, and the other... well, I guess for letting him do it. I do agree with you, however, that ALL criminals should watch out, or do you advocate people committing crimes? I suppose you would, being as how you are advocating a lynching even though you were not at the scene. Tom, did you stop taking your medications?
To: Richard YOU ARE A PAID SHILL BY THE LAW OFFICE REPRESENTING THE PO THAT COMMITTETED CRIMES AGAINST THE DEFENDENT. YOU ARE INTENDING TO COMMIT A FRAUD UPON THE COURT. THAT IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE., RICHARD. This is where you displayed your concern over my potential testimony, Tom... I know it was more than 20 minutes ago, so you more than likely forgot... You REALLY are not very good at this. But then again, I am sure you are doing the best that YOU can do. LOL... that makes it even more sad.
She was NOT beaten. She fought with the police and ended up with a scratch on her face. She was never struck, which is a crucial element in a good beating. A scratch on her face from falling to the ground after fighting with the police is not a beating in anyone's book. GADman have you no shame> O I guess you have already proven that. A "scratch" on the face??????????????????????????? As I am not being paid I am about done with you Richie. Sad that you embrace the chains so eagerly. The girl may have been totally nuts and Mr Big may have been protecting the widows and orphens amoungst us. Your arguments, however, defending the police state actions are repugnent. Go quietly with your chains around your neck. And give "hosannas " to your masters.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
I was THERE, he did not beat her. You were NOT there, you have no idea what you are talking about. What EVIDENCE do you have that proves she was BEATEN? (answer: none, because she was not beaten) Your constantly saying it does not make it so, sorry to tell you. Perhaps it IS best that you go quietly into that good night now. It is clear that you have nothing of value to contribute here.
You're right on with this, JT. But with all the negative publicity for the PD on this so early they have been forced to launch an IAD investigation now instead of 3 or 4 weeks from now. This cop will be lucky if he can get a job in Texas rounding up wetbacks. There is no way he will be allowed to stay in Dallas, especially with SIX complaints in his jacket. I saw the other info that tom007 posted on the other thread. This guy was an accident waiting to happen; a ticking bomb. I know how it is from my time on the bouncer gig and I know you do as well from NYPD. I know how long it took me to unwind after working a show and being in the thick of the action. I was keyed up. It usually took 2 or 3 hours, six beers and a few shots of tequila to get the edge off. Here in the county I live in the Sheriff was forced to get rid of 10 of his deputies for "irregularities" which means they were found jobs in other counties in the state. If the "irregularities" are bad enough, that type of transfer would be impossible. This guy in Dallas may not even be able to stay in Texas considering his work record is so impaired. Which department would take on a known liability?
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Richard posted on 2006-01-20 23:12:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Richard, Thak you so much for this conversation. It has made me think and contemplate upon my, your, and others words and beliefs. I appreciate your time and efforts. I also maintain by the remark above, and here I quote it for all to review, "Tom, did you stop taking your medications? " - Richard-: That this marks YOU as a man devoid of cognate responses to the discussion. It is, essentially the mark of a man, like you, who can no longer reason, but must use his fists to defend his position. Which usually means the position is ideological and not necessarilly rational. Do you not agree?? And have I ever called you a "defective" as a counter argument? An apology is, I think, in order. But no offense if not offered. I don't expect it from other that gentleman.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Yep. If he can't handle this tiny thing - no matter how she was acting - he doesn't belong on the job. It's scary what the public is beginning to accept. Had this happened in Harlem, with the colors of the actors reversed, 125th St would still be on fire.
Officer Gordon has been disciplined three times in his 15 year career. He only has six complaints? Complaints are NOT convictions or disciplines, you know. ANYONE can make a complaint and it HAS to be filed regarless of how frivolous. Wow, most cops have more than that because EVERYONE files a complaint these days. You need to call your local police force and investigate that one for yourself. An average of one every 5 years is not a "ticking time bomb waiting to happen." Especially when he is still working on the streets after those incidents. Oh, and lovely racist comment "rounding up wetbacks" that sure shows us how fair and impartial YOU are. LOL I suppose you don't like it that it was a black officer and a white female suspect. You prolly got all scared that he was trying to take your women!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestRichard I think maybe you shouldn't have fucked with Tom, yours isn't the only story out there.
#344. To: Richard (#331)
Sorry, wrong again.
"As long as they hold a license to "represent" clients, they also represent the courts."
#345. To: christine (#263)
At one point in my life I had an 80 pound German Shepherd attached to mine for a few moments.
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
There are 9,000 hedge funds out there. There aren't that many smart people in the world. - Michael Driscoll, a trader at Bear Stearns & Co. in New York
Some days you just want to pull out the Bonehead Stick and beat people senseless. - mirage
#346. To: markm0722 (#345)
In my case, good old fashioned guy instincts came into play.
#347. To: Dakmar (#344)
Dakmar,
#348. To: Dakmar (#344)
Dakmar,
#349. To: Hmmmmm (#343)
Hmmmmmm...
#350. To: Richard, neil mciver, zipporah, christine (#333)
eil,
#351. To: All (#350)
#352. To: Richard (#349)
He was not there and is going off hearsay.
#353. To: tom007 (#350)
Again, Tom... I will say this for you slowly in case you didn't understand all the words the last time.
#354. To: tom007 (#351)
Tom,
#355. To: tom007 (#352)
Tom,
#356. To: Jethro Tull (#317)
SO now she's a YAHOO? Richard, your pending testimony is worthless.
#357. To: Richard (#355)
was there, I saw what I saw. You weren't there, you saw nothing.
#358. To: tom007 (#356)
Tom,
#359. To: tom007 (#357)
Tom,
#360. To: Richard (#359)
Sorry, Rumplestiltskien,
#361. To: Richard (#359)
I gave my statement to the officers at the scene, and they believed me,
#362. To: Richard (#359)
Tom, this case will never go to court, s Tom, this case will never go to court, she will plead it out as soon as she can
#363. To: Jethro Tull (#361)
Oh my sad Aqualung, this case will never go to trial.
#364. To: tom007 (#362)
Tom,
#365. To: Richard (#364)
She was never beaten, Tom. He did not strike her even once.
#366. To: tom007 (#365)
Tom,
#367. To: Richard (#364)
Oh, and please show me your evidence for me being a paid shill of someone involved with this case, this should prove most amusing.
#368. To: Richard (#366)
Oh, and please show me your evidence for me being a paid shill of someone involved with this case, this should prove most amusing.
#369. To: Richard (#366)
So now you concede that she was, in fact, NOT beaten, and that you are just trying to inflame a situation that you were not present at because of some pictures that you saw and your mistrust of the police.
#370. To: Richard (#363)
#371. To: tom007 (#367)
Tom,
#372. To: Jethro Tull (#370)
Jethro,
#373. To: Richard (#366)
om,
#374. To: tom007 (#369)
#375. To: Richard (#371)
This case will never go to trial, so I don't understand why you are worried about my eye-witness testimony, as it will never be asked of me in court.
#376. To: tom007 (#373)
Tom,
#377. To: tom007 (#357)
On 2006-01-20 21:59:42, tom007 wrote:
#378. To: Richard (#374)
So you are saying that you agree with them.
#379. To: tom007 (#378)
Tom,
#380. To: Jethro Tull (#370)
Trial? I told you earlier the criminal case is a foregone conclusion. Cops win here. It's about punitive damage at this point. The rules of evidence are different, as you might or might not know. The visual of this kid in court with beef-boy is amusing. The city will pay large to get out of this mess, and beef- boy will be taken off the street and tucked away in the property clerk for the next 10 years.
#381. To: Richard (#376)
Tom, did you stop taking your medications?
#382. To: BTP Holdings (#380)
This cop will be lucky if he can get a job in Texas rounding up wetbacks
#383. To: BTP Holdings (#380)
BTP,
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