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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 12887
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#50. To: Richard (#49)
We are going to have to agree to disagree, Richard. I don't respect the police, not any longer, not when they say things like "ignorance of the law is no excuse" but then cannot even tell me how many laws there are that I have no right to be ignorant of. The line is drawn, you are on one side and I am on the other. At least you are honorable enough to have a clear position and the will to defend it, but I will never agree with those who believe that "if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about".
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#51. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
Hi Jethro, First off, I appreciate and acknowledge your service to this country. That said, in this instance, you were not present at the scene, I was. The girl was rollerskating in the middle of a busy street and the police asked her nicely to stop. She did not. Then, when they were going to give her a ticket for her actions, she got violent. The police begain with a civillain friendly method - Michelle chose to take Door #2. Are you suggesting, as a 15 year vet of the NYPD, that if a woman took a swing at you that you would simply laugh it off and release her? I don't think so. The officer in question subdued his attacker, plain and simple. He should not be fired, sued nor jailed for his actions. You were not there, Jethro, I was.
#52. To: Richard (#49)
I'd feel safer with Michelle keeping me safe from your cop
The police are put in place by society to keep us safe from people like Michelle.
#53. To: Jethro Tull, Richard, Neil McIver (#48)
I agree with you JT. I'm sure there's a lot of fine police fellows, just as there are in any profession. even among drug smugglers there's some fine people. but the police in this country have done so many horrible things. How can we respect them any more! As far as Richard's commentary - I am skeptical of it. an eye-witness - how convenient. there's no excuse for drawing all that blood from someone, especially a woman.
we don't have to respect the police
#54. To: Elliott Jackalope (#50)
Elliot, I am not sure how your discussion of the concept "if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about" comes into play in this matter. What we have here is a woman who was first told by the police nicely that her actions were unlawful and asked to stop. When she continued to do the actions that she was just TOLD were unlawful, she was arrested and given a ticket for her actions. She was NOT doing nothing wrong. She was KNOWINGLY doing wrong. Then, while under arrest, she assaulted the police officer. Now, I acknowledge that there are many laws and we don't know them all... but come on... we ALL know that you can't take a swing at a police officer when you are under arrest. How are you saying that Michelle was ignorant of the law? She was warned first, so she was NOT ignorant of the law. If she had obeyed the law at that point, none of this would have happened.
#55. To: Richard (#51)
LOL - Thanks, but I didn't serve the country. For me it was the NYPD or Vietnam. I chose the paycheck, over an illegal war. If she took a swing at me, I'd have grabbed her arm and cuffed her. No takedown, complete with a knee in the back, was necessary. I realize you were there, and I think your testimony will be invaluable in the civil portion of this matter. Just repeat exactly what you have in this post. It reeks of excessive force.
First off, I appreciate and acknowledge your service to this country.
#56. To: Red Jones (#53)
Red, Wow, you are quite the conspiracy theorist to presume that I am lying about being an eye-witness to this idiotic woman's behavior. What would I possibly stand to gain? The police have my information and I told them I would be happy to testify if needed. Perhaps you think they are paying me? Sorry... I live in Deep Ellum and am sick to death of the drunken idiots that think that "the man" is there to keep them down. The police are there to protect the law abiding citizens from the rest of you. Michelle was drunk and skating in the middle of the street. She was told not to skate in the street and chose to do so anyway. You are upset because the police arrested a woman? How incredibly sexist of you. Would you have felt better if she had successfully managed to gouge out the officers eye as she was trying to do? Then would his actions be justified? Sorry, Red, but you really don't have much ground to stand on here if you are trying to introduce the sex of the criminal as justification for her actions.
#57. To: Red Jones (#53)
When we stop respecting them Red, they might start behaving. Same goes for most forms of government that I can think of. None are worthy of my respect.
#58. To: Richard (#54)
Here's the problem: It simply doesn't matter what the circumstances were leading up to this incident, the result was a 250 lb black officer beating a 100 lb white woman bloody. Now, imagine if this situation were turned around, and it was a 250 lb white officer beating a 100 lb black woman bloody. When rule of law becomes rule of force, facts cease to matter and appearances become everything. Yes, it's unfair, but it is also the way things are. Where are the victims of this woman's actions? Is there a single person who was harmed by what she was doing? I don't see anyone else lying broken and bloodied by her actions, but I see a lot of blood on the ground from what the cop did to her. My stepfather used to practice his "take-down" moves they taught him at the CHP academy on me, and I know for a fact that cops have a lot of ways to deal with people that don't involve cracking their heads open. This woman stupidly chose to take a drunken swing at a cop, for that she should be prosecuted in a court of law. But this officer had a lot of different ways to deal with the situation, he chose a method that spilled a fair amount of blood, and that's going to cause problems.
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#59. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
Jethro, Yes, in fact, you DID serve your country by serving the city of New York. Perhaps you don't see the bigger picture, but in any event, your work is appreciated. So you would have grabber her arm and cuffed her? Simple as that, eh? And it always goes smoothly, because the criminal does not continue to resist? LOL This was not a "little girl" but a professional rollerderby skater. She knew how to fight and chose to do so at her own peril. She lost. As she should. I will be happy to testify to her illegal and violent behavior in court if asked to do so.
#60. To: Elliott Jackalope (#58)
Elliot. Here is where you lose all credibility. Race does not enter into this matter at all. It is offensive of you to even suggest that they do. Also, to assert that the events preceeding her arrest do not factor into things is ridiculous. Furthermore, she was not "BEATEN" as you try to portray, she was simply taken to the ground and handcuffed. The cut she got came because she was resisting arrest (which, by the by, is a CRIME) and was taken to the ground. And FINALLY "Where are the victims of this woman's actions? Is there a single person who was harmed by what she was doing?" SO... you assert that if NO ONE IS HARMED THERE IS NO CRIME? Ok, so when I go to rob a bank, and shove a gun in the face of the teller, but DON'T pull the trigger because she gives me the money... ACCORDING TO YOU I HAVE NOT COMMITTED A CRIME BECAUSE NO ONE WAS HURT??? What a frightening world you live in, Elliot. "This woman stupidly chose to take a drunken swing at a cop, for that she should be prosecuted in a court of law. But this officer had a lot of different ways to deal with the situation, he chose a method that spilled a fair amount of blood, and that's going to cause problems. " YES, this woman stupidly chose to RESIST ARREST and ASSAULT A POLICE OFFICER. The officer did his job by subding the violent offender. He did have lots of different ways to do this. He could have maced her. He could have used his baton on her. He could have used his tazer. He could have shot her. BUT... he didn't, because those methods were excessive given the circumstances. He took her to the ground and handcuffed her. He did not beat her, he simply subdued her.
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#57)
Jethro, Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one.
#62. To: Richard (#60)
Ok, so when I go to rob a bank, and shove a gun in the face of the teller, but DON'T pull the trigger because she gives me the money... ACCORDING TO YOU I HAVE NOT COMMITTED A CRIME BECAUSE NO ONE WAS HURT??? What a frightening world you live in, Elliot. That argument is sophomoric beyond belief. You're a good little boot-licker, I'll give you that much...
SO... you assert that if NO ONE IS HARMED THERE IS NO CRIME?
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#63. To: Richard (#59)
Richard, trust me, I didn't. I'm not entirely sure if the statute of limitations are expired on.....oh, never mind....(g)
Yes, in fact, you DID serve your country by serving the city of New York.
#64. To: Elliott Jackalope (#62)
Elliot, You are saying that because she had no visible victim, because no one got hurt as a result of her actions then she should not have been arrested. Fine. Then I should be able to go 140 down the middle of downtown Dallas, or in a school zone in the afternoon, provided I don't actually HIT anyone with my car, correct? It just does not work that way. You don't have to have a visible "victim" to be breaking the law. What you are suggesting is beyond idiotic and bordering on the surreal, Elliot.
#65. To: Richard, Jethro Tull (#61)
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one. Yeah, JT, you hate America. Where have we heard this tripe before? ROTFLOL!
Jethro,
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#66. To: BTP Holdings (#65)
I never suggest that he hated America. I was simply offering him an alternative to living in a country that he does not hold in high esteem. You read far too much into things, BTP
#67. To: Richard (#64)
Richard, you are being sophomoric again. ;0)
Then I should be able to go 140 down the middle of downtown Dallas, or in a school zone in the afternoon, provided I don't actually HIT anyone with my car, correct?
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#68. To: Richard (#66)
No, I'm not. Unfortunately, I have to step out for a few hours. I'll expand on this later if you will be around.
You read far too much into things, BTP
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#69. To: BTP Holdings (#67)
BTP I am simply dumbing down my game to the level of my comrade.... He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime. That opens the door to a lot of things.
#70. To: Richard (#69)
That opens the door to a lot of things. Suggesting that there are crimes where there are no visible victims opens the door to a whole lot of things as well, Richard.
He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime.
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#71. To: Richard (#69)
He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime. That opens the door to a lot of things. Yes, it does open the door to many things. Be careful on which door you decide to twist the doorknob. From what I've seen here you have very little understanding of the proper role of police in society or the citizen's duty under corrupt government. Perhaps that is why you are a slave and haven't the slightest clue that you are so thoroughly bound. As I said above, we will continue this later. I have to go for now.
I am simply dumbing down my game to the level of my comrade....
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#72. To: Elliott Jackalope (#70)
Yes, Elliot, it does. Under your new rules... I can drive as fast as I want, whenever or where ever I want. Even when I am drunk or high. I can fire my automatic weapons out of my office window in downtown dallas, provided I don't hit anyone or harm their property. I can also have sex with my 17 year old daughter now, according to you. My my... what a fun world you are offering us, Elliot. I can
#73. To: BTP Holdings (#71)
BTP... PLEASE do tell me what you think the proper rolle of the police in society is. Then tell me how that role was violated with the incident where Michelle was arrested after being warned, and then taken into custody after attacking the police. I am eager to hear this.
#74. To: Richard (#61)
I refuse to leave my country until Washington DC is set ablaze and there are 534 members of congress swinging from various trees. Ron Paul catches a break.
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one.
#75. To: Richard (#72)
As opposed to the fun world your kind has given us, a world where I can't even go out and have a single drink at a nightclub for fear of getting a DUI on the way home, a world where the police can bust down my door and steal everything I own after saying the magic word "drugs", a world where citizens have fewer rights every day while the police gain additional powers every day. Yes, such a fun world the statists have given us.
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#76. To: Richard (#49)
Richard I concur with your observation, I think what you are missing is our contempt and mistrust of the police. Just wanted to set the record straight. Oh!.. and fuck society! It's for the children you know, mine.
.....and you all are showing a great amount of disrespect for the police.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#77. To: Elliott Jackalope (#75)
So Elliot, You would prefer to have a society where I can drive as fast as I want, even when I am drunk or stoned, rob a bank - provided I don't actually shoot anyone, and screw my daughter if she is horny? Lovely....
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
NFW this asshole is for real. That would mean that there actually is a perfect asshole. More likely an "old freind" or Pys-op specialist like ................
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#79. To: Richard (#77)
My dog will handle that, again.
screw my daughter if she is horny?
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#80. To: Hmmmmm (#78)
I was going to say I want sloppy seconds on his daughter, but I thought better...
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#80)
LOL... Well, in Elliot's World, you can!
#82. To: Flintlock (#79)
Now there's a visual! The audio: Oh god! Oh god! Oooooooooooooooooh...............
My dog will handle that, again.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#83. To: Richard (#81)
Thank goodness...a sense of humor :)
#84. To: Richard (#77)
You are attributing statements to me that I have not made, and using reductio ad absurdum arguments as well. These are hallmarks of those who wish to bludgeon, not argue. For the record, driving too fast and/or driving drunk or high is wrong and should be against the law. But the drunk driving laws have turned into a moneymaking industry, and are now so vigorously prosecuted that people like myself no longer go out to clubs and bars for fear of getting a DUI even when we are not even close to impared. Of course robbing a bank is wrong, because there is a victim once money has been forcibly extracted by someone via threat of violence (duh!). As far as you having sex with your daughter, the fact that you even bring up that argument is rather, well, disturbing...
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#85. To: Elliott Jackalope (#75)
Funny Richard is a brand new poster, who just happened to be there, assures us the Dallas police, with their culture if violence, assures us the poor men did nothing incorrect. Remarkable, isn't it?? Looks like all the Homeland security is busy protecting the reputation of the Dallas police. And Richard has no credibility with me.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#86. To: Richard, all (#81)
OMG! It's true. It's true. Maybe
LOL...
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#87. To: tom007 (#85)
We really need to rename the Department of Defense with their original name of "Department of War", and then rename Homeland inSecurity with the name "Department of Peace", and then we need to sic them on each other. That'll keep them out of our hair...
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#88. To: Elliott Jackalope (#84)
Elliot, Driving Drunk has NO VICTIM as long as I don't hit anyone or cause an accident. Driving fast has NO VICTIM as long as I don't hit anyone or cause an accident. If I rob a bank and don't harm anyone, there is NO VICTIM. Simply holding a gun is not a crime, nor should it be. If I don't fire it... it is just something in my hand. The supposed "THREAT" is presumed, not real, until such time as I fire the weapon. As for having sex with my daughter... well, in YOUR world of "No Victim, No Crime", I should be able to do so without a problem. You should find YOUR argument disturbing.
#89. To: tom007 (#85)
Tom, I am a new poster, who LIVES in Deep Ellum, and was coming out of July Alley (across the street) when this incident happened. I don't assure you of anthing about the DPD and their culture, nor am I affiliated with them. However, I was an eye-witness to the event in question, and you were not. I am not protecting anyone, I am simply speaking as someone who was there and saw the events unfold. You are just a reactionary looking at photos of a girl who is bleeding and you dont care that she brought that upon herself due to her violent actions. I don't care if I have "credibility" with you. I don't need it.
#90. To: Richard (#88)
You may think you are clever, but in case you have yet to notice nobody else is buying it...
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