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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 13003
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#1. To: All (#0)
Pig mother effers. IMVHO, a .45 cal should be mandatory when roller-skating in Dallas.
We should be sure of all the facts. The story claims witnesses said she was aggravating the situation by attacking the cop. Were the witnesses impartial?
She looks ok in the first picture standing next to police car. At that point she seems to be in custody, and police are responsible for her.
She looks like she had her face scraped across the pavement. Don't know what else would likely cause that kind of redness. That does suggest the cop had control of her at the time it happened.
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
That much blood doesn't come from mere scrapes.
The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event rather than giving any kind of testimony of what HE saw happen, and if he didn't see it but speaks as though he did, then that's pretty incriminating as well. It's likely his version of the events is mere heresay, at best. The girl is smart to consult a lawyer before making any public comments.
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? I'll tell ya, I've wrapped up guys, lean 'n' mean and 15 years younger than me, without giving them so much as a bruise. And this creep thumps this little girl so hard the blood is all over her face. And then his knee on her throat and her spine. I hope these pics really hang him. He went way overboard and now it's time to pay the fiddler. The head hunters will have some fun looking into his record and sending him for new psych tests. ;0)
Of course he can't. Why would he undercut one of his own people? Oh, damn, that's from a different story. Oh, it looks as it this Lt. is just a mouthpiece they roll out to make sound bites. Yeah, well, he can bite me too. ;0)
I was there that night and saw the situation as well. They also took my info as a witness. I side with the police on this one, sorry. The girl who got arrested was stoned out of her mind, argumentative and clearly off her nut. I had seen her and her friend earlier skating on Main Street. They were skating on the sidewalk at that time, and they fell down numerous times as well as nearly crashed drunkenly into lines of people waiting to get into clubs. She had been warned by the police on Main Street about her conduct before she was finally ticketed and arrested on Elm Street. The "tiny girl" on skates had been told before not to skate in the street by the police, and as you said, was arrested and in the process of being ticketed for her conduct. She was breaking the law. Right now, the most common arrest in Deep Ellum is NOT assault, breaking and entering, or any other violent crime; it is PUBLIC INTOXICATION. Michelle was a prime object lesson for this. She was arrested, and not only failed to follow the instructions of the police, she was an ass about it. She was skating in the middle of a BUSY street, if she had been hit by a car, you would all be crawling up the butt of the police asking why they DIDN'T stop her from skating in the street. Or are you now advocating that people go roller skating in the middle of a busy street on a weekend night? Perhaps we should have a skating party on the 75 next Saturday? As civillians, we need to respect the police. Even if we disagree with them. There are structures in place to dispute the actions of the police. The middle of Elm Street is NOT a place to do this. Also, you NEVER have a right to swing at a police officer, even if you are drunk. It is their job to protect us from harm, even when that harm is coming from our own actions (like a drunken girl who wants to rollerskate in the MIDDLE OF A BUSY STREET). You laughingly play it down as she gave "a little attitude" when in fact she was extremely disrespectful and got what she deserved. She was intoxicated, breaking the law and endangering her life and the lives of the drivers in the area, I really don't see how her weight comes into play there. She resisted arrest, and fell to the ground in the scuffle, so what? I would be FAR more concerned if the officer was NOT able to control her. So she got cut... big deal. She resisted arrest. She should not have done that. The officer has been on the force for 12 years and has been written up 3 times. That is immaterial. It does not show a "pattern" of abusive behavior. Clearly each incident was addressed or he would not be serving on the force presently. It is hack journalism to try to paint the police officer as being in the wrong for doing his job because of 3 write ups over a 12 YEAR SPAN. She was drunk and under arrest, she should not have resisted. Had she not resisted, she would have been ticketed and relased... unharmed. It is amazing that you all are trying to portray this idiotic, offensive and drunken female as a victim... The cops did their job, and did it well. She got what she deserved. Perhaps you all will learn a little respect the police from this lesson.
She got what she deserved. Perhaps you all will learn a little respect the police from this lesson. You were doing pretty good until the last couple of lines. Saying that "she got what she deserved" and "perhaps you all will learn a little respect" is where you went over the high side. I remember my stepfather and the discussions we had concerning things like liberty and privacy, and his big answer was always "if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about". Trying to explain why that was wrong to him was like trying to explain calculus to a chimpanzee, he simply had no facility to be able to understand the concept, it was utterly beyond him, and sadly that proved true about all of his cop friends as well. Some people understand liberty, most people don't. Those who spout sayings like "she got what she deserved" and "perhaps you will learn a little respect" fall into the camp of those who don't.
Elliot, She did get what she deserved, and you all are showing a great amount of disrespect for the police. Your stepfather was right, if you are not doing anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about. Michelle WAS doing things wrong, MANY things. She was intoxicated in public. She was rollerskating in the middle of a busy street. She was NOT listening respectfully to the police when they tried to peacefully resolve the matter. She was resisting arrest. So... The cops did their job, and they did it well. If you don't respect the police, then you don't respect society, Elliot. The police are put in place by society to keep us safe from people like Michelle. If I had been driving down Elm and hit her because she was rollerskating in the street because the police saw her and did nothing, you would be screaming at the police for their inaction. Can't have it both ways, Elliot. The police did their job, they stopped someone who was breaking the law. She got what she deserved and perhaps will learn NOT to resist arrest next time.
We are going to have to agree to disagree, Richard. I don't respect the police, not any longer, not when they say things like "ignorance of the law is no excuse" but then cannot even tell me how many laws there are that I have no right to be ignorant of. The line is drawn, you are on one side and I am on the other. At least you are honorable enough to have a clear position and the will to defend it, but I will never agree with those who believe that "if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about".
Gotta agree with you Elliot.......I worked LA for 3 years.....and saw some bad officers do some bad things.....We place too much emphasis on Officers tryin to obey the law, and forget that they are, after all...just human, with emotions and feelings......and we ask much of them, in situations hard to imagine...We all react in diff ways in diff situations....2 hours before this incident, the officer may have covered a child rape or abused wife....or perhaps a robbery in progress, who knows what was in his mind?.....never the less, He could have chose a diff way to handle it.....But in his defense....this aint the movies, folks!.....You try takin down someone who dont wanna be taken down...size has little to do with it....a drunk or someone on PCP...can have strength you might find it hard to believe....and they feel very little pain, until after the fact.....Just my two cents.......Peace, ya'all!
Oh yes, the old "superhuman criminal" story. I've heard that nonsense before too. I don't care how zonked out someone is, you can still take them down with any number of moves, and the cops are taught a whole lot of them. Believe me, I know, my step-father used to practice the moves they taught him on me. Here's a true story of something I saw one day in Silicon Valley (Santa Clara, California). The cops were rousting some guy in a parking lot just off the El Camino by Lawrence Expressway, some bum who looked like he might have thought of himself as a "tough guy", mid-thirties, bald head, no shirt, looked like he worked out. Guess how many cops were there rousting this guy? One? Two? Four? Try more like THIRTY FIVE! No kidding. I counted, but I'm not sure if it was an exact count because there were so many of them. There were so many cops there that they had to have two cops directing traffic around the cop traffic jam created by all of the cop cars who stopped in to roust this guy. Thirty five cops. What were they thinking? I know what I was thinking, "what a bunch of total pussies these blue suited bullies are." Since when are thirty five cops needed to roust a bum? Sheesh. Some may say "support your local police", but I'm not one of them. I don't like cowardly pussy fear biters.
I gather two things from your comments....One, that you are probably a Libral....and Two.....at some point in your life, You have been "Rousted" by some police or authority figure. It kills me to read all of the horror stories about the law enforcement community. Your solution is what?...to disband all police forces? I will totally agree with you, that we have some bad officers out there...But all of them, or MOST of them, are not the "storm troopers" you try to portray them as. I resided in Mexico for a time...The police there pretty much enforce the law, according to how much money a person has, or the social status of an individual. What a country this would be, if that happened here. And yes, my friend, I DO support my local police...I dont always agree, or condone some of thier actions, but I'm not quite ready to just dump our system, just yet.
#732. To: Merlin (#729)
First, no I'm not a liberal, but I'm not a fan of conservatives any longer either. As of now I no longer see things as "right or left", I see them as "right or wrong". And two, yes, I've been rousted before, many time when I was living on the streets. I was rousted and harassed for the crimes of sleeping, and the crime of loitering, and the crime of asking people for money. Did I mention that I came from a really fucked up family background? But I overcame it because of my natural tendency to be a workaholic. Meanwhile, Ken Lay, who stole billions, still has yet to see the inside of a courtroom. Five years later, still has not even been put in handcuffs. Him and thousands of other corporate criminals buy their way out of their crimes that cost people billions. Oh, and another experience I got to live through, about fifteen years ago I came up with "a really good idea", something worth a whole lot of money. I put together a team of engineers, and tried to get venture capital financing. Guess what happened? The VC's stole my idea, and made billions off of it. No shit. I got to spend five years fighting in court, just to end up with a tiny fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what my idea was worth. Why? Because our system is just like the one you described in Mexico. It does, in fact, enforce the law according to how much money a person has. So there you have it. The fact of the matter is I deeply resent and despise cops and our legal system (don't insult us all by calling it a "justice" system), but I also get a big laugh watching what happens to cops after they retire. They usually drink themselves to death. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of assholes. They sure do have a lot of television shows portraying how "brave cops" save us from all of the "street criminals", but they don't have any shows portraying law officers going after corporate criminals and evil lawyers who make a mockery of justice with their manipulations of the law, do they? No, they don't, and the end result is to manufacture people like me who would not piss down a cops throat if their lungs were on fire. Fuck the cops, and fuck this corporatist empire. I hope I live long enough to see the power elites given the French Revolution treatment. I will personally volunteer for executionor duty when that day comes. Heck, I'll do it for free.
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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
#7. To: Neil McIver (#4)
#11. To: Dakmar (#7)
#15. To: Neil McIver (#11)
#38. To: christine (#15)
looks to me like a head laceration that bled down her face. look at the amount of blood on the pavement.
#39. To: All (#38)
#41. To: Neil McIver (#39)
The account given by the police was given by a "Lt. Rick Watson". But I wonder how likely it is that any loftey Lt. was out on patrol doing grunt work. Watson was more likely giving a pro-police version of the event
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
#43. To: All (#42)
“I can not comment on his state of mind,” said Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas PD spokesman.
#44. To: ALL (#43)
#46. To: Richard (#44)
The cops did their job, and did it well.
#49. To: Elliott Jackalope (#46)
#50. To: Richard (#49)
#727. To: Elliott Jackalope (#50)
I will never agree with those who believe that "if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about".
#728. To: Merlin (#727)
You try takin down someone who dont wanna be taken down...size has little to do with it....a drunk or someone on PCP...can have strength you might find it hard to believe....and they feel very little pain, until after the fact
#729. To: Elliott Jackalope (#728)
Some may say "support your local police", but I'm not one of them. I don't like cowardly pussy fear biters.
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