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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 13183
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#64. To: Elliott Jackalope (#62)
Elliot, You are saying that because she had no visible victim, because no one got hurt as a result of her actions then she should not have been arrested. Fine. Then I should be able to go 140 down the middle of downtown Dallas, or in a school zone in the afternoon, provided I don't actually HIT anyone with my car, correct? It just does not work that way. You don't have to have a visible "victim" to be breaking the law. What you are suggesting is beyond idiotic and bordering on the surreal, Elliot.
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one. Yeah, JT, you hate America. Where have we heard this tripe before? ROTFLOL!
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
I never suggest that he hated America. I was simply offering him an alternative to living in a country that he does not hold in high esteem. You read far too much into things, BTP
Richard, you are being sophomoric again. ;0)
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
No, I'm not. Unfortunately, I have to step out for a few hours. I'll expand on this later if you will be around.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
BTP I am simply dumbing down my game to the level of my comrade.... He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime. That opens the door to a lot of things.
That opens the door to a lot of things. Suggesting that there are crimes where there are no visible victims opens the door to a whole lot of things as well, Richard.
#65. To: Richard, Jethro Tull (#61)
Jethro,
#66. To: BTP Holdings (#65)
#67. To: Richard (#64)
Then I should be able to go 140 down the middle of downtown Dallas, or in a school zone in the afternoon, provided I don't actually HIT anyone with my car, correct?
#68. To: Richard (#66)
You read far too much into things, BTP
#69. To: BTP Holdings (#67)
#70. To: Richard (#69)
He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime.
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#71. To: Richard (#69)
He suggested that if there is no visible victim, then there is no crime. That opens the door to a lot of things. Yes, it does open the door to many things. Be careful on which door you decide to twist the doorknob. From what I've seen here you have very little understanding of the proper role of police in society or the citizen's duty under corrupt government. Perhaps that is why you are a slave and haven't the slightest clue that you are so thoroughly bound. As I said above, we will continue this later. I have to go for now.
I am simply dumbing down my game to the level of my comrade....
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#72. To: Elliott Jackalope (#70)
Yes, Elliot, it does. Under your new rules... I can drive as fast as I want, whenever or where ever I want. Even when I am drunk or high. I can fire my automatic weapons out of my office window in downtown dallas, provided I don't hit anyone or harm their property. I can also have sex with my 17 year old daughter now, according to you. My my... what a fun world you are offering us, Elliot. I can
#73. To: BTP Holdings (#71)
BTP... PLEASE do tell me what you think the proper rolle of the police in society is. Then tell me how that role was violated with the incident where Michelle was arrested after being warned, and then taken into custody after attacking the police. I am eager to hear this.
#74. To: Richard (#61)
I refuse to leave my country until Washington DC is set ablaze and there are 534 members of congress swinging from various trees. Ron Paul catches a break.
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one.
#75. To: Richard (#72)
As opposed to the fun world your kind has given us, a world where I can't even go out and have a single drink at a nightclub for fear of getting a DUI on the way home, a world where the police can bust down my door and steal everything I own after saying the magic word "drugs", a world where citizens have fewer rights every day while the police gain additional powers every day. Yes, such a fun world the statists have given us.
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#76. To: Richard (#49)
Richard I concur with your observation, I think what you are missing is our contempt and mistrust of the police. Just wanted to set the record straight. Oh!.. and fuck society! It's for the children you know, mine.
.....and you all are showing a great amount of disrespect for the police.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#77. To: Elliott Jackalope (#75)
So Elliot, You would prefer to have a society where I can drive as fast as I want, even when I am drunk or stoned, rob a bank - provided I don't actually shoot anyone, and screw my daughter if she is horny? Lovely....
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
NFW this asshole is for real. That would mean that there actually is a perfect asshole. More likely an "old freind" or Pys-op specialist like ................
Perhaps you should consider leaving the country if you are not willing to respect the laws of this one.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#79. To: Richard (#77)
My dog will handle that, again.
screw my daughter if she is horny?
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#80. To: Hmmmmm (#78)
I was going to say I want sloppy seconds on his daughter, but I thought better...
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#80)
LOL... Well, in Elliot's World, you can!
#82. To: Flintlock (#79)
Now there's a visual! The audio: Oh god! Oh god! Oooooooooooooooooh...............
My dog will handle that, again.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#83. To: Richard (#81)
Thank goodness...a sense of humor :)
#84. To: Richard (#77)
You are attributing statements to me that I have not made, and using reductio ad absurdum arguments as well. These are hallmarks of those who wish to bludgeon, not argue. For the record, driving too fast and/or driving drunk or high is wrong and should be against the law. But the drunk driving laws have turned into a moneymaking industry, and are now so vigorously prosecuted that people like myself no longer go out to clubs and bars for fear of getting a DUI even when we are not even close to impared. Of course robbing a bank is wrong, because there is a victim once money has been forcibly extracted by someone via threat of violence (duh!). As far as you having sex with your daughter, the fact that you even bring up that argument is rather, well, disturbing...
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#85. To: Elliott Jackalope (#75)
Funny Richard is a brand new poster, who just happened to be there, assures us the Dallas police, with their culture if violence, assures us the poor men did nothing incorrect. Remarkable, isn't it?? Looks like all the Homeland security is busy protecting the reputation of the Dallas police. And Richard has no credibility with me.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#86. To: Richard, all (#81)
OMG! It's true. It's true. Maybe
LOL...
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
#87. To: tom007 (#85)
We really need to rename the Department of Defense with their original name of "Department of War", and then rename Homeland inSecurity with the name "Department of Peace", and then we need to sic them on each other. That'll keep them out of our hair...
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#88. To: Elliott Jackalope (#84)
Elliot, Driving Drunk has NO VICTIM as long as I don't hit anyone or cause an accident. Driving fast has NO VICTIM as long as I don't hit anyone or cause an accident. If I rob a bank and don't harm anyone, there is NO VICTIM. Simply holding a gun is not a crime, nor should it be. If I don't fire it... it is just something in my hand. The supposed "THREAT" is presumed, not real, until such time as I fire the weapon. As for having sex with my daughter... well, in YOUR world of "No Victim, No Crime", I should be able to do so without a problem. You should find YOUR argument disturbing.
#89. To: tom007 (#85)
Tom, I am a new poster, who LIVES in Deep Ellum, and was coming out of July Alley (across the street) when this incident happened. I don't assure you of anthing about the DPD and their culture, nor am I affiliated with them. However, I was an eye-witness to the event in question, and you were not. I am not protecting anyone, I am simply speaking as someone who was there and saw the events unfold. You are just a reactionary looking at photos of a girl who is bleeding and you dont care that she brought that upon herself due to her violent actions. I don't care if I have "credibility" with you. I don't need it.
#90. To: Richard (#88)
You may think you are clever, but in case you have yet to notice nobody else is buying it...
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#91. To: Elliott Jackalope (#90)
Elliot, I am using YOUR RULES. No Victim, No Crime. Perhaps now you see how stupid your rules are....
#92. To: Richard (#88)
uh, Richard..where did Elliott say that your having sex with your own daughter was a victimless crime? no one has said that but you.
As for having sex with my daughter... well, in YOUR world of "No Victim, No Crime", I should be able to do so without a problem.
#93. To: christine (#92)
Christine, Elliot asserted that because there was no "victim" to Michelle's actions, that this should not have happened in the first place. He is proposing a "No Victim, No Crime" system of law. According to that law, if my daughter wants to have sex with me, then I should be free to do so. No victim... so no crime. According to Elliot.
#94. To: Richard (#72)
Richard, if you're on the level, then you're the kind of a guy that goose- steps. It's not a good thing.
#95. To: Red Jones (#94)
Red, I don't goose-step by any means. I just understand what happened with Michelle and what did NOT happen with Michelle because I WAS THERE. It is easy for you to slam the police when you don't know the facts. I know the facts, and they did their job. Michelle made her bed and has to lie in it, blood and all. You don't fight with the police.
#96. To: christine (#92)
As I see it, there are only two kinds of guy that would introduce the concept of having sex with their daughter into a discussion for the sake of winning an argument: 1. Those that really don't have a daughter and 2. Those that really do have sex with their daughter
#97. To: Richard (#93)
goose-steppers frequently have trouble discerning things that the rest of us have no trouble seeing. and I am to explain basics of human life to you apparently. and the mind- numbed robot goose-stepper would argue with me on these basics. Maybe I shouldn't explain to you as it is a waste of time, but others might want to read the reasoning. Let me start at the beginning for the mind-numbed robot goose-stepper who loves jack-booted thugs that beat up women. God made us. and he made us so that we are prepared for a family relationship where a man is the husband a woman is the wife. When a man has sex with his daughter he disrupts this preparation. Because he teaches her a different pattern than that which our creator prepared for us. And this may destroy her ability to have a normal relationship. It will certainly harm her. She is a victim. I would not expect a mind-numbed robot goose-stepper to be able to see these things. All you can do is say 'seig heil' and goose-step. NAZI skinheads are not normal people either.
According to that law, if my daughter wants to have sex with me, then I should be free to do so.
#98. To: Red Jones (#94)
To misquote Goldwater, "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the face of tyranny is no virtue." I'm one of those liberty freaks, I deeply resent those who are willing to surrender inalienable rights to others simply because they brandish symbols of authority. Picking fights with cops is just stupid, but mindlessly obeying cops simply because they are cops is downright cowardly...
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#99. To: Sonovademocrat (#96)
Christine, I was introducing it to illustrate (and you are the perfect example of this) that Elliot's concept of "No Victim, No Crime" just does not work. Thank you for bolstering my point.
#100. To: Red Jones (#97)
Red, How is using Elliot's concept of No Victim No Crime making me a goose stepper? God did not make us, Elliot... if you choose to believe in the Boogeyman, that is fine wtih me, but there is no evidence of this. If I have a daughter and she is 17, in the state of Texas, she is of the age of consent and can have sex with whomever she pleases. She is NOT a victim, she is a volunteer. No Victim, No Crime, says Elliot. The officer in question did not "beat up" the woman, he simply took her to the ground and handcuffed her. Red, it is clear you have never been in a fight in your life, or you would know the difference. If he wanted to "beat up" Michelle, she would either be dead or in the ICU at Baylor. He just wanted to arrest her, and she resisted. WOW... you have introduced Nazis into the conversation... it is clear that you have run out of things to contribute. I am not a nazi, a skinhead, or even a conservative. It is clear that your emotions have gotten the better of you, Red... you have lost the debate and now resort to childish namecalling.
#101. To: Elliott Jackalope (#98)
Elliot, You got one right! Picking fights with cops IS indeed just stupid! Well done! You CAN learn! I am excited for you. Not sure what you mean by "mindlessly obeying cops" in this instance... she was warned, and after being warned she chose to break the law again.
#102. To: Richard, All (#100)
Once again, reductio ad absurdum. Here's the deal, at no point did I make the absolute statement "no victim, no crime". However, I did state that once you accept the idea of victimless crimes, then the door has opened to an endless escalation of laws and supposed "crimes" that eventually results in de facto tyranny. That is a door that is better kept closed, because once opened it is rather hard to close again. My concern is that there are so many laws on the books now that for all intents and purposes the police have become mere tyrants, able to arrest and punish anyone anytime whenever they feel like it. This is a bad thing. Once upon a time this country believed in certain ideals, such as "it is better to let ten guilty men go free than to imprison one innocent man". Sadly those ideals have gone the way of the dodo bird, largely because of people such as yourself who are willing to mindlessly obey those in positions of authority. Since you really cannot defend said argument as stated, you resort to hyperbole and reductio ad absurdum arguments in an attempt to make your point. It is to the credit of everyone else on this forum that nobody else here is buying it.
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#103. To: Richard (#47)
If you are trying to say that it is "ok" for her to take a swing at a police officer, then you lose from the start. I never said this, nor implied it. (Though it is lawful to resist and unlawful arrest, so there are some circumstances when it's okay).
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#104. To: Richard (#88)
Tell her to leave my dog alone.
As for having sex with my daughter..
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
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