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Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)
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NBC5i.com
URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html
Published: Jan 16, 2006
Author: NBC5
Post Date: 2006-01-16 20:18:09 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: Excessive, (Dallas), Police
Views: 14893
Comments: 855
POSTED: 5:16 pm CST January 16, 2006
DALLAS -- E-mails and pictures circulating the Internet tell the tale of a Dallas woman's bloody run-in with police after a roller-skating outing escalated into an arrest with excessive force, but officers and some witnesses Monday told a different story.
The incident happened early Saturday morning in Deep Ellum after police attempted to speak with Michelle Metzinger, 25, who, according to a police report, was intoxicated and weaving through traffic on roller skates.
Images: The Arrest & Other Slideshows
The pictures that stemmed from the events that followed are dramatic. They show an officer arresting Metzinger. Her face is covered in blood and there is a puddle of blood on the sidewalk.
"Very excessive. Uncalled for, you know. We're talking about a 250-pound guy and a 100-pound girl. It was just over the top," witness "D.C." said. "All I saw were her feet in the air and disappearing behind a cop car."
However, Dallas police and other witnesses tell a totally different story.
They said Metzinger was drunk and that she not only ignored officers who asked her to stop skating in the street, but also shouted profanities.
According to reports, an officer then tried to arrest Metzinger for public intoxication.
She resisted and attacked the officer, Lt. Rick Watson said.
"The officer attempted to turn her around, at which time the suspect then reached up and grabbed the officer's -- right part of his face -- trying to gouge the officer's eye," Watson said.
Despite the interest that the story has generated online and in the media, Metzinger said she would not comment on the incident until she had consulted with a lawyer.
Metzinger also had not filed a complaint report, so Dallas police were not conducting an internal investigation.
When I worked concert security and someone got bloodied, it was always proper for us to "get our stories straight." Or, as Eddie Murphy said in that movie, "You were lying your asses off." That LT is a lying piece of shit and so is the black cop who LIED in his report.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, this bastard needs to be caught and given a damn hard ball-batting. And then a WHITE magic marker taken to his forehead and the words BAD COP inscribed thereon. What was done was brutal, inexcusable and unjustified.
Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest
Dramatic Pictures, Rumors Circulate Online
UPDATED: 6:11 pm CST January 16, 2006
Poster Comment:
Pictures taken by a witness clearly show the cops are LIARS!
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#145. To: Richard (#140)
Oh yes, the ever popular "s(he) fell" argument. That used to work all of the time back in the day, but you are missing the larger issue here, which is that too many of us have seen too much abuse of authority by too many cops, and we are no longer inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the police any longer. If the robocops had shown some restraint over the last twenty years they would have a lot more support from the community, but since they have largely acted like aggressive jerks too many times to too many people they can no longer count on that support. Maybe it's not fair, but it is reality.
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#146. To: Elliott Jackalope (#145)
Elliot, You don't live in the city, much less the state. You were NOT there. You are going off of photographs that tell you NOTHING. If you go by the photos, there is NO evidence that she was harmed by anyone. You can't tell if she inflicted the wounds herself or not. Just because you have seen abuse of authority does not mean it existed in this incident. Being an eyewitness observer, I can tell you that it there was no abuse of authority in this case. Being as how you have no clue what happened, all you can do is try to stir the pot when you don't actually know squat.
#147. To: Richard (#143)
That's odd, as from looking over the thread, I saw you making a lot of comments about screwing your daughter, so to me, it was more of a "Richard's World" sort of thing.
The comment you read was made inside of "Elliot's World."
#148. To: FormerLurker (#144)
Lurker, I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
#149. To: Richard (#146)
You have repeatedly proven incapable of understanding the larger issues at stake here, and so I am done trying to convince you of anything. However, you might consider that every single other person here disagrees with you. Perhaps that might tell you something?
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#150. To: FormerLurker (#147)
Lurker, Again with your ignorance. I was illustrating how Elliot's concept of No Victim No Crime just does not work in the real world. Too bad you are not bright enough to grasp that concept.
#151. To: Richard (#146)
I doubt you were either. Why don't you tell us the name of the officer that interviewed you, and what time of the evening it was when the interview was conducted.
You were NOT there.
#152. To: Richard (#150)
Too bad you are not bright enough to grasp that concept. Too bad you're too dumb to realize that a man screwing his daughter is not a victimless crime. So how long have you been banging her?
I was illustrating how Elliot's concept of No Victim No Crime just does not work in the real world.
#153. To: Elliott Jackalope (#149)
Larger Issue At Stake? What we have is a woman who broke the law and fought with the police. She was not beaten. The police used reasonable restraint. They did not mace, tazer, shoot or use their batons on her. You don't like the police. That is fine. But to immediately presume that the police are wrong when you weren't there... that is ignorance. I was there. You disagree with me because you weren't there. You know the 'myth.' I know the Facts.
#154. To: FormerLurker (#152)
Lurker, Not in Elliot's World. If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases. So, in Elliot's World, we could have sex legally. No victim. She is volunteering. Once again, you are too slow to see what is going on here.
#155. To: Richard (#148)
Why you ask? Because 4um doesn't come up in Google that easily. Why don't you provide the search terms you used to find this site. I'd be highly surprised if you did.
I was a witness to the event. Then I saw the news report on TV and was upset by the biased and unbalanced coverage. I searched the web to see if people were talking about it. I found this site and joined it. Why is that so hard to believe?
#156. To: Richard (#154)
You are forgetting about the INCEST laws, which are written in order to prevent various genetic disorders in offspring, in addition to preventing the psychological damage caused by those acts.
If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases.
#157. To: FormerLurker (#144)
it's pretty funny really. hard to believe a witness would go out of his way to glorify police like Richard.
Is this the sort of piss poor quality psy-op that our tax money buys these days? Sheesh.
#158. To: FormerLurker (#156)
Lurker, In Elliot's World... Those laws don't exist. At 17, she would be at the age of consent, and not being bound by our laws, open to do what she would please. You can't prove any psychological damage if she wants to do it, she is old enough to make her own choices and free from "real laws" in Elliot's World. Furthermore, as for genetic disorders, well, those can occur any time there is a pregnancy. So, two swings and two misses for the FormerLurker Again, you are too stupid to realize that this entire issue is taking place in a theoretical place where if there is No Victim, there is No Crime. Elliot's World.
#159. To: Red Jones (#157)
Red, I am not glorifying anything. I am simply not standing by and letting people form their own lynch mobs. I was there and I saw what happened. She was not beaten, the police were not out of line.
#160. To: Richard (#154)
I don't think that is true. the law is different in every state. It is really odd that you picked this example. It just goes to show the Jeff Gannon rule. People who glorify the government and the police are usually perverts.
If my daughter is 17, she is able to make her own decisions and can legally have sex with whomever she pleases.
#161. To: Red Jones (#157)
Especially when the 4um article doesn't come up in Google until after 100 pages or so, if at all.
it's pretty funny really. hard to believe a witness would go out of his way to glorify police like Richard.
#162. To: FormerLurker (#155)
FormerLurker. Here was the intricately designed search term I used. "Michelle Metzinger" Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx? q=Michelle+Metzinger&FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0 here is the results link, in case you are too stupid to actually form the querry yourself.
#163. To: Richard (#158)
Under the Common Law this is a fact. You've been blowing smoke at everyone on here the whole time, little do you know.
No Victim, No Crime.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#164. To: Red Jones (#160)
Red, I was working with Texas, cuz that is where I live. Nice to see you are happy with your bigoted statements that people who glorify the government are usually perverts. I am not glorifying anything... just keeping the truth in this conversation instead of letting those who WEREN'T there, like yourself, let these lies of yours continue.
#165. To: BTP Holdings (#163)
BTP... And if our nation was run solely under Common Law that would mean something. Being as how it is not, it does not matter.
#166. To: FormerLurker (#161)
Lurker, you do a MSN search for "Michelle Metzinger" and it is in the first 25 hits. First page. Lord you are a dolt.
#167. To: Richard (#158)
In Elliot's World... Those laws don't exist. No, in Richard's World they don't, as this is YOUR example, not Elliot's. At 17, she would be at the age of consent, and not being bound by our laws, open to do what she would please. Again, that is not necessarily true in regards to the age of consent laws, as many are written to state that one in charge of a minor, such as a parent or school teacher, would be guilty of statutory rape if they had sexual relations with that minor. You are still forgetting the fact that there are reasons for those laws. Why did you even use that as an example? It is quite lame from a legal standpoint, and only infers that you have such thoughts running through your mind. You can't prove any psychological damage if she wants to do it, she is old enough to make her own choices and free from "real laws" in Elliot's World. So you acknowledge a need for age of consent laws, yet you say that there is no real need for incest laws. The same underlying principle is common between both, in that both laws are written to prevent psychological harm. If the age of consent laws have any legitimate basis, then so do the laws against incest. Furthermore, as for genetic disorders, well, those can occur any time there is a pregnancy. The possibility of genetic disorders is drastically increased in cases of incest.
#168. To: FormerLurker (#167)
Lurker, Good lord, you are an idiot. You have a taken a concept that was introduced to rebut Elliot's idiotic concept and now are trying to apply it to other circumstances. The comment that you first latched onto was specifically designed to be applied in ONE situation, in Elliot's World. No where else. You don't know what you are talking about, and you don't know why you are talking about it. Be still, child.
#169. To: Neil McIver (#135)
Don't give them any ideas...taxpapers are sources of revenue for Leviathan...can't have 'em running off.
I thought perhaps putting up a wall & barbed wire fence and machine-gunned guard towers around the USA would be a good way to keep people IN who wanted to leave.
#170. To: FormerLurker (#167)
Notice how the replies are becoming increasingly testy and insulting? Such a common pattern, once I've observed many times before.
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#171. To: All (#170)
once I've observed s/b ONE I've observed - oops.
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#172. To: Richard (#168)
Good lord, you are an idiot. Coming from one that approves of a 250 lb cop sticking his knee into the back of the neck of a 100 lb girl and scraping her face into the pavement, all for the simple crime of rollerskating, I take that as a compliment. All of the real witnesses tell a different story than you. You may well have found this forum via MSN, but you'd be in the minority if you use MSN as a search engine, as most people use Google or Yahoo. If you were unhappy with the news reports, you would have written an editorial for the local paper. There is a marginal chance that you found this forum in the manner that you claim, but the odds against it are high. Go back to licking the boots of the boys in blue (or black, camouflage, or whatever color tickles your tongue). Apparently your daughter knows what tickles your tongue as well...
#173. To: Elliott Jackalope (#170)
It's a time tested formula, that's for sure.. :)
Notice how the replies are becoming increasingly testy and insulting? Such a common pattern, once I've observed many times before.
#174. To: Richard (#89)
R, Please show where I indicated you cared?
I don't care if I have "credibility" with you. I don't need it.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#175. To: Richard (#162)
Actually no, it appears on the 2nd MSN page, shit for brains.
Your forum is on the first page if hits, dumbass.
#176. To: Richard (#162)
BTW, you DO know how to count past one, right? Are you sure your daughter's really 17?
#177. To: FormerLurker (#172)
Lurker, Coming from one who approves of a 100 lb girl attacking a police officer after she has been arrested for public intoxication and rollerskating in the middle of traffic, I am not surprised. All of the real witnesses do not tell a different story. Both of the people I was standing with saw and said similar things. If I was unhappy with the news reports I would have written an editorial? What makes you think that everyone who is upset with things they see on the news immediately goes and writes an editorial? MOST people do not do this, Lurker. Again, I don't glorify the police, I simply agree with their actions in this specific case because I was there and saw what happened.
#178. To: FormerLurker (#175)
Lurker, Sorry you have a tiny monitor... I am sure that is not the only tiny thing you have, starting with your brain... but it is on the first page on mine. I don't have a daughter, you idiot. As I said, I was illustrating a point. Perhaps such intricate concepts are beyond your ability to comprehend. Hopefully you are not allowed to use the sharp scissors.
#179. To: Richard (#132)
Now thats funny! Richard, you such a silly man.
There is nothing in those photos to suggest that the police caused her injuries.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#180. To: tom007 (#174)
Tom, I was simply informing you that your opinion of my credibility did not matter. Have a lovely day.
#181. To: tom007 (#179)
Tom, Please point to where in those photos you see that the police are causing the injuries. She is laying face down and away from the camera in one, but you can not see any evidence of injury. In the others she is bleeding. Nothing there indicates that her injuries were caused by another person.
#182. To: Richard (#177)
If she was under arrest, she'd be in cuffs. If she was in cuffs, she wouldn't have been able to harm the officer. If she was attacking the officer, he would have simply pepper sprayed her to subdue her. If she was physically assaulting the officer, he could have simply grabbed her arms while an other officer cuffed her if necessary, etc., etc., etc. You are just an agent provocateur looking for attention.
Coming from one who approves of a 100 lb girl attacking a police officer after she has been arrested for public intoxication and rollerskating in the middle of traffic, I am not surprised.
#183. To: Richard, Elliott Jackalope (#137)
A very rash assumption, Richard. Statements like this is why you have no cradibility with me. And don't bother telling me you don't care.
you would be first in line asking for the cops who DIDN'T stop her to be fired.
"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#184. To: FormerLurker (#182)
Lurker, She was stopped and being placed under arrest when she swung on the officer. He should have pepper sprayed her? Or perhaps tazered? Hell, why not whack her with the baton a couple times? Have you ever been pepper sprayed? It is a MUCH more injurious method of subdual than simply taking her to the ground. He did simply grab her and put her on the ground. He did not require the assistance of another officer. Once on the ground he put the cuffs on her. She would not have been injured if she had not attacked the officer. But she did choose to attack the police officer. Her choice. Her consequence. Etc, etc, etc...
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