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Title: First the Battle Flag, Then What Remains
Source: The Unz Review
URL Source: http://www.unz.com/article/first-the-battle-flag-then-what-remains/
Published: Jul 17, 2015
Author: Boyd D. Cathey
Post Date: 2015-07-17 14:09:36 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 1017
Comments: 17

The Attack of the Orcs

Occasionally I will read articles on the ostensibly conservative web site, Townhall.com. Indeed, my good friend Jack Kerwick has published some fine pieces there. Recently, Paul Gottfried forwarded on to me an essay written by a Neoconservative Republican operative, Boston Globe columnist Jeff Jacoby, “The Confederate Flag is Anti-American,” and I wanted to make a few comments on it while my blood pressure is sky high.

One of my bete noires continues to be the group of East Coast, mostly New York, largely (but certainly not exclusively) Jewish intellectuals who now dominate and generally control what is called “Conservatism.” This control extends to the point that just about any opposing conservative view, whether that of Pat Buchanan, Donald Trump, or Paul Gottfried, is condemned out of hand as “racist,” or “isolationist,” or “anti-immigrant,” or—and very ironically in Paul Gottfried’s case as he is Jewish–”anti-semitic.” The Neocons are now, in fact, the “brain trust” for the national Republican Party (although I use the term “brain trust” advisedly). What should be very disturbing to grass roots conservatives (but mostly isn’t) is that the Neocons propound a basic philosophy which, if anything, is over on the historic Left, and encompasses across-the-board-egalitarianism, moral relativism, and a zeal for imposing globally a system of governmental and economic control they label “liberal democracy.”

For some time, I have been documenting this situation in what passes for the American “conservative movement”: recently the managing editor of National Review, came out for same sex marriage(Jason Lee Steorts, “An Equal Chance at Love: Why We Should Recognize Same Sex Marriage,” May 19, 2015,” ); major leaders of the College Republicans have also endorsed it and warned GOP candidates not to oppose it (“Study finds 61% of young Republicans support same-sex marriage,”); on Fox News, the leading Neocon media organ in the nation along with The Wall Street Journal, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, and former Marxist Charles Krauthammer (again, how much Marxism has actually left him?) have endorsed same sex marriage, and George Will literally has been orgasmic about it (no pun necessarily intended). They may not agree with the unconstitutional means of achieving it, but they have no qualms with the end result.

These men and their journals and Fox TV network, and their Republican political camp followers in Congress, are supposed to be our “conservative leaders.” Even the supposedly “conservative” John Locke Society here in North Carolina had Krauthammer as their big anniversary speaker earlier this year, as well as the cretinous Fred Barnes a little earlier. (They scrupulously avoid social and cultural issues, as those might scare away their Chamber of Commerce supporters.)

This, you see, is what parades as conservatism nowadays. And in practical politics, let’s don’t forget the bumbling GOP leaders, including that character straight out of the “dark lands” of Lord of the Rings, Reince Priebus, whose minions got on the phone after the Charleston killings and demanded that the Southern GOP governors do away with CSA symbols, so as not to hurt ole’ Jeb Bush, who called those symbols racist and had suppressed them a few years back in Florida. South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley’s announcement came just a couple of days after she had solemnly intoned that “now is not the time to discuss that question, not now as the funerals of the slain victims are beginning.” But when the RNC demands that these pusillanimous toadies jump, they respond: “How high?” Haley jumped the height of a flag pole.

These aforementioned types are our modern day American Orcs, again using Lord of the Rings imagery: filthy and loathsome creatures who have used and abused Southerners (and other Americans), “triangulated” and told us that “hey, you ain’t got no place to go: it’s either those totally evil Dems or us (who are only about 95% evil)!” And we Southerners, like the lemmings that most of us are, have followed along and voted for such great conservative intellects like…let’s see…George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John “Bomb’em All to Hell” McCain, and Mitt the Twit Romney, Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham. And in the process the old country, what very little is left of is, has literally gone to hell in a handbasket.

You see, the conflict over the Confederate Battle Flag is only the tip of the iceberg: it symbolizes something larger and much deeper. It symbolizes a resistance dating from 150 years ago to the Enlightenment Idea of Progress, opposition to the Triumph of the Heresy of Equality, and standing athwart the march of an ideology which, while firmly ensconced on the Left, also forms the motivating principle of modern Neoconservatism, whose eventual goal is the same as that of the Cultural Marxists, just a bit slower and by another, more circuitous route.

The Neconservative genealogy is strictly Marxist in origin, or, rather Trotskyite Marxist. Back in the 1960s and then in the 1970s when I was assistant to the late Dr. Russell Kirk and was close friends with the great Southern scholar, Dr. Mel Bradford, I was pre-warned about the Neocon infiltration and subversion of an older conservatism and constitutionalism. I read Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and others of that ilk. But, too many of our friends and leaders bought into the Neocon vision, and now, instead of honoring Robert E. Lee, Thomas Jefferson, or George Washington (the one-time father of this country, but, alas, a horrid slave owner!), we honor “the liberator” Abe Lincoln, the philandering plagiarist and communist Martin Luther King, and Karl Rove’s favorite historian, the hard core Stalinist Eric Foner.

So, in reading Jeff Jacoby’s screed, dripping with hatred against the “boobs” and rednecks who live south of the Mason-Dixon Line and in between Manhattan and San Francisco (i.e., all us who’ve not had the privilege of attending Harvard or Boston U., or taking cocktails with the glitterati on the Upper East Side in Noo Yawk City), I remember what Paul Gottfried wrote in great detail in his superb trilogy (After Liberalism, The Strange Death of Liberalism, and Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt), about the rise and triumph of Neoconservative ideology. I recall Russell Kirk’s excoriation of them at the old Heritage Foundation in 1988: “And not seldom it has seemed as if some eminent Neoconservatives mistook Tel Aviv for the capital of the United States”. Accordingly, he was attacked by Midge Decter as an “anti-semite.”

We have been used by these folks, looked down on by them, and now, over the issues of same sex marriage and the Confederate Battle Flag, their surrogates have let the mask slip off that hid their ulterior intentions. From the feckless inanities at the RNC to their inept Republican political puppets and hacks who got elected in states like South Carolina (the traitoress Nikki Haley) and North Carolina (the bumbling Pat McCrory), presenting themselves as “conservatives,” but who were little more than wolves in sheeps’ clothing hawking the tawdry and odiferous enticements of cultural corruption and defecation, they now stand revealed for all to see.

So, when I take a look at Neocon GOP hack Jacoby’s screed and cast my eyes on the photograph of the face of a modern day Orc, I see a denizen of the dark world, who serves “the Dark Lord” and whose attack is actually much broader than just attacking the Confederacy and the symbols of the old South. He represents an Evil conception of power and the state that will not be content until each and every one of us either fully accepts the pestilent template he pushes, or is safely six feet under.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Wow, what a grand slam! Didn't know Cathey named the Jue! Great summary of the neocon (properly NOcon) curse. Worship the Jue in the Juty of kosherness, that's the new konservative MO.

GOOD one, X.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-17   14:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed, X-15, 4 (#1)

AJ and Chuck Baldwin are having a discussion of the Battle Flag, etc right now.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-17   14:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)

This I've got to see. I'll defend AJ's greatness to the end, but he doesn't seem much concerned about Dixie.

www.infowars.com/watch- alex-jones-show/

Headline happening now -- "West Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates".

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-17   14:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

He's plenty concerned.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-17   14:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

“The Confederate Flag is Anti-American,”

Um. It's actually anti-union/anti-federal government. Something that tends to escape those on both sides of the issue.

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PnbC  posted on  2015-07-17   15:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PnbC (#5)

Well, it's anti-federal tyranny.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-17   15:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)

AJ and Chuck Baldwin are having a discussion of the Battle Flag, etc right now.

Mississippi, home of the Confederacy's President, Jefferson Davis, is the next State on the Commie agenda for CSA flag and symbolism removal, per Pelosi's "privileged resolution", as it's called, to have it banned from being displayed within the presumed territory of the House of Representatives in D.C., except inside the office quarters of Mississippi's Federal Representatives.

1.5 hour CSPAN video JULY 9, 2015: House Removal of Confederate Flags

At 19:47, Headline of the next step in the day in the U.S House: Pelosi ambushes GOP with Confederate flag resolution

Excerpted at 24:24 ...

Pelosi ambushes GOP with Confederate flag resolution

And whereas this impairment of the dignity of the House and its members constitutes a violation of rule 11 of the rules of the House of Representatives of the 114th Congress, now therefor be it resolved that the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall remove any State flag containing any portion of the Confederate Battle Flag, other than a flag displayed by the office of a member of the House, from any area within the House wing of the capitol or any House office building and shall donate any such flag to the Library of Congress.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-07-17   15:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#7)

Turns out that the Battle Flag was based on the Flag of St. Andrew who was crucified on an X-shaped cross.

Bonus info from Baldwin: St. Andrew is the patron saint of both Scotland and Russia.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-17   15:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

The Battle Flag is probably being targeted by the Commies all the more because of its historic Christian Heritage connection, as well as to Confederate Heritage.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-07-17   15:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#8)

Yep -- note the flag on the Kursk:

Not the CBF but obviously a cousin, "Jack of the Russian navy" --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_flags

Other saltire models there too.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-17   15:52:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#8)

the Battle Flag was based on the Flag of St. Andrew

Nearly 100% of the people who see this don't know that:

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X-15  posted on  2015-07-17   16:16:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#11)

I didn't know it either until this afternoon...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-17   16:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#7) (Edited)

Mississippi, home of the Confederacy's President, Jefferson Davis, is the next State on the Commie agenda for CSA flag and symbolism removal, per Pelosi's "privileged resolution", as it's called, to have it banned from being displayed within the presumed territory of the House of Representatives in D.C., except inside the office quarters of Mississippi's Federal Representatives.

1.5 hour CSPAN video JULY 9, 2015: House Removal of Confederate Flags

At 19:47-20:26, Headline of the next step in the day in the U.S House: Pelosi ambushes GOP with Confederate flag resolution

[Excerpt from Pelosi's Confederate flag resolution] at 24:24 25:24- 26:00 ...

And whereas this impairment of the dignity of the House and its members constitutes a violation of rule 11 of the rules of the House of Representatives of the 114th Congress, now therefor be it resolved that the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall remove any State flag containing any portion of the Confederate Battle Flag, other than a flag displayed by the office of a member of the House, from any area within the House wing of the capitol or any House office building and shall donate any such flag to the Library of Congress.

Edited formatting + to correct the 2nd timestamp startpoint.

Adding these 2 reports at yahoo.com with some supportive news of Confederate flags and commemorative heritage:

Confederate flag supporters rise up to defend embattled symbol - Reuters July 12, 2015

Mississippi divided: Battle over Confederate flag shifts to Magnolia State - Christian Science Monitor July 13, 2015

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-07-20   23:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GreyLmist (#13) (Edited)

"The dignity of the House" -- now isn't that a good one! She being one of the cheapest lays in the whole bordello.

Them and their RULES. There are moral rules against theft and tyranny, but apparently nobody ever "enumerated" them in her hearing growing up.

Where is the dignity of Nancy Pelousy? Most search results on her are rightly contemptuous.

www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pelosi

She's a criminal herself. CLASSIC:

www.youtube.com/watch? v=7KV8W2UiAuA

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   23:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: X-15 (#0)

Are any representatives standing up for the flag of dixie? Is there even one willing to say, " I will not lower our flag"?

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   23:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: titorite (#15) (Edited)

Are any representatives standing up for the flag of dixie? Is there even one willing to say, " I will not lower our flag"?

House Speaker Boehner and 100 Republicans of the U.S. Congress blocked the stealth-Amendment attempts (to the Interior and EPA spending bill) by Cultural Marxist Democrats to ban Confederate flags at cemetaries of our National Parks and from the gift shops. CA-Republican Rep. Calvert introduced an Amendment to replace those of the Commies.

C-SPAN JULY 9, 2015: House Removal of Confederate Flags at ... 13:26-15:33 and 18:58-19:47 [Boehner] ... 1:06:50-1:08-40 [Pelosi] ... 1:15:47-1:22:24 [C-SPAN commentaries].

More info on that at nationaljournal.com July 9, 2015: Republicans Pull Vote on Confederate Flag Amendment

Some additional reports of support by officials of Florida, Mississippi and North Carolina:

news.yahoo.com Reuters July 12, 2015: Confederate flag supporters rise up to defend embattled symbol

the national push to pull the controversial icon from stores and public displays is being met with determined resistance in some corners of the United States.

In Ocala, the seat of Marion County [Florida], an administrator had ordered the Confederate flag's removal from a government complex. But last week county leaders overruled the order and the banner is again flying atop the building. [See also 4um Title: FLORIDA - County Commission restores Confederate flag at McPherson complex]

Mississippi, whose state flag incorporates the design of the Confederate banner, is divided. ... the town of Petal has voted to fly the state flag at all of its city buildings. ... Mississippi Republican Governor Phil Bryant has refused to call a special legislative session to address the issue, resisting calls to do so from leading state officials.

North Carolina's Department of Motor Vehicles recently sold out of a series of specialty license plates featuring the Confederate flag, local media reported. It has ordered more of the plates,

myfox8.com July 20, 2015: Alamance County [NC] Confederate monument will not be taken down - with video

GRAHAM, N.C. — County commissioners said Monday night the historical cleansing of Confederate memorials across the South is not going to happen in Alamance County.

The short video at that article opens with a black man, wisely saying:

"This country has a problem. And that problem is: Too many times we bend to Political Correctness."

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-08-15   3:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GreyLmist (#16)

That's very good! Unprofessionally missing from the reporting: whether the blax spoke against heritage or for it -- and why this hearing is being held.

W-h-y is one of the BASICS of good reporting. Leaving it out is pathetic. The obvious reason is that somebody THAT THE STATION DOESN'T WANT TO MENTION has declared war against the monument.

Members of “Concerned Citizens of Alamance County” have not responded to request for comment, but commissioners said they weren’t touching the memorial fearing removing it would only cause division when communities are in need of unity -- it took decades of hellish strife and betrayal, but finally some officials point out that it's PC that causes division, not Southern heritage -- and a station actually reports it.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-15   4:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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