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Title: Concentration Camps in America?
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Published: Jul 20, 2015
Author: Stephen Lendman
Post Date: 2015-07-20 10:15:50 by Stephen Lendman
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Comments: 27

Concentration Camps in America?

by Stephen Lendman

Post-9/11 repressive laws transformed America into a police state. US prisons already overflow with political and other unjustly incarcerated victims.

It's a short leap to filling concentration camps with dissidents - anyone publicly opposing America run by monied interests and warlords, governed lawlessly, waging endless wars of aggression abroad, persecuting its own people, leaving anyone potentially vulnerable to abuse.

FEMA detention camps were established years ago. Perhaps many more are planned. They're used to incarcerate undocumented immigrants before deportations to countries of origin.

In 2002, Bush Attorney General John Ashcroft called for Americans designated "enemy combatants" to be detained indefinitely - extrajudicially, uncharged and untried unless ordered otherwise.

In January 2003, the Fourth Circuit US Court of Appeals upheld the ruling in a case involving a US citizen.

The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (renewed annually) authorizes indefinite detentions of US citizens at home and abroad.

America's military may arrest and imprison them uncharged - holding them without trial based on suspicions, hearsay, secret evidence, or none at all.

Presidential diktat authority has final say. Everyone is vulnerable. No one anywhere is safe.

Due process, civil protections, and judicial fairness no longer apply. Presidents may order anyone arrested and imprisoned for life without charge or trial. Abuse of power replaced rule of law protections.

Are greater mass incarcerations coming than already? Maybe so if retired General Wesley Clark has his way. Interviewed on MSNBC, he said the following:

"We have got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized. We've got to cut this off at the beginning."

"There are always a certain number of young people who are alienated. They don't get a job. They lost a girlfriend. Their family doesn't feel happy here and we can watch the signs of that."

"And there are members of the community who can reach out to those people and bring them back in and encourage them to look at their blessings here."

But I do think on a national policy level we need to look at what self-radicalization means because we are at war with this group of terrorists. They do have an ideology."

"In World War II, if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn't say that was freedom of speech. We put him in a camp. They were prisoners of war."

"So, if these people are radicalized and they don't support the United States and they are disloyal to the United States, as a matter of principle fine."

"It's their right and it's our right and obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict."

"And I think we're going to have to increasingly get tough on this, not only in the United States but our allied nations like Britain, Germany and France are going to have to look at their domestic law procedures."

Clark advocates indefinite internments for anyone called "radicalized (or) disloyal" based on judgment, not evidence, for the duration of the phony war on terror established for fear-mongering to continue longterm.

What better definition of a police state - mass political imprisonments targeting anyone against fascist rule demanding constitutionally guaranteed rights.

America is infested with lunatics like Clark - on the one hand wanting nuclear war with Russia. On the other, enforcing homeland police state rule.

Big Brother watches everyone to decide who lives, dies, stays free or is interned potentially forever uncharged and untried.

Obama's America is unfit to live in. Nor will things change under a new administration when inaugurated in January 2017.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.

Listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network.

It airs three times weekly: live on Sundays at 1PM Central time plus two prerecorded archived programs.

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#1. To: Stephen Lendman (#0)

Yeah lendman. You tell it like it is!

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   10:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Stephen Lendman (#0)

therealnews.com/t2/compon...8-gun-violence-in-america

FEMA camps:

This is why Americans own guns Lendman, a concept you oppose.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   11:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2) (Edited)

Where? Where has lendman ever opposed the second amendment? I ask because ive read.his.articles for years but never read him write anything opposing gun ownership.

One quick google.search later reveals that i too may disagree with his gun position if such is really so.... but it is still a good article right here.

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   11:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite (#3)

Where? Where has lendman ever opposed the second amendment?

Every chance he gets in every space available to him.....

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-07-20   12:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#3)

i too may disagree with his gun position if such is really so....

Don't take a firm position on the issue...plenty of room for wishy washy on the second amendment. (SARC)

If such is really so? Seriously?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2015-07-20   12:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: abraxas (#5)

Well no, of all the years ive read lendman ive never read any stories of him denouncing gun ownership. But a quick google informs he that he may have some issues regarding the matter. I can still agree with every other position of his...

Is america not a police state? Does israel have a right to commit genocide? Do we pay for our own oppression?

Lendman has many good articles and a willingness to write the truth of the matter in spite of the tyranny.

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   12:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#4)

Every chance he gets in every space available to him.....

Can you link a thread of his from here support your position?

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   12:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: titorite (#3)

Did you bother to read the link I posted written by him?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   12:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Lendman clearly has never heard of Switzerland or of FFops.

On some topics he's bulleye, and on others, he doesn't even hit the paper. imo

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-20   12:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: titorite (#7)

Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury. It's the second leading cause of death. Guns play a leading role. Children, like adults, are harmed.

What kind of country facilitates endemic violence instead of acting responsibly to curb it? What kind of government endorses easy access to dangerous assault and other deadly weapons instead of prohibiting it?

The above is from the link I included in my comment. If you aren't alarmed by a socialist who discusses *prohibiting* gun access, good luck to you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   12:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#9)

On some topics he's bulleye, and on others, he doesn't even hit the paper. imo

Exactly. He's an open progressive who has written articles for socialist mags & web sites. His internet footprint is easy to find.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   12:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

www.socialistviewpoint.org/marapr_13/marapr_13_21.html

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   13:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

An article hard to dispute, incidentally -- even though his tone is a bit confused. He drools à la "Mali matters. It’s worth contesting for" but also chastises the old/new colonial powers for wanting to "rape the continent's riches".

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   13:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Oh no, i missed that the first time. Thanks for pointing it out. Ill give it a view.

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   13:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: titorite (#14)

You're quite welcome, t.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   13:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

even though his tone is a bit confused

This is the essence of progressive thought.

I also get some of what he posts, but his core principles run counter to mine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   13:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

What other bad core principles does he have?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   13:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

Basically, his belief that more government and more laws are the way to go.

He's a governmentist, not a sovereign individualist.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-07-20   13:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

What other bad core principles does he have?

Would you allow anything you've written to be published in something called "Socialist Viewpoint"?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   13:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

Sure. Left and right are finding more common ground all the time.

About those other core principles?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   14:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: NeoconsNailed (#20)

If penning articles pushing gun prohibition, while at the same time being published in socialist rags isn't a sufficient insight into his core principles, then I'll let you listen to his radio show on the Progressive Radio Network - "...cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network."

You can start your listening journey with The Black Agenda Radio

Get back to us with a full report, OK?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   15:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#21)

OK, so finally a hint what you're referring to.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   15:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: NeoconsNailed (#22)

A hint, it took a full pallet of bricks landing your head :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   16:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

No, it just took you getting more specific. That's all it took.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   16:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: NeoconsNailed (#24)

No, it just took you getting more specific. That's all it took.

Not quite considering all I did was reiterate what already had been posted or tagged to the 1st Lendman article I posted. But regardless of how long it took you to get it it's great that you finally did!

PS: his last name should have been enough...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-07-20   16:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

Ok, so maybe this falls under the rule of" all great geniuses being prone to moments of profound stupidity".

I did not know lendmans stance on weapons before or that he thinks sandy hook was real. So the man has a few failings. That aside i still enjoy the majority of.his.commentary despite his complete ignorance of.the.reasoning to encourage all men and women to be armed equally.

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titorite  posted on  2015-07-20   19:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25) (Edited)

Not quite considering all I did was reiterate what already had been posted or tagged to the 1st Lendman article I posted. But regardless of how long it took you to get it it's great that you finally did!

PS: his last name should have been enough...

You are being uncharacteristically sarcastic, patronizing and incoherent on this, and now denigrating an author you posted because he's a Jue. Whatever floats your boat!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-07-20   23:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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