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Title: ATF Works With FBI And VA To Get Veterans’ Guns Taken Away
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URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/21/a ... -get-veterans-guns-taken-away/
Published: Jul 21, 2015
Author: Patrick Howley
Post Date: 2015-07-21 14:54:52 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: second amendment, constitution, veteran, gun rights
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Comments: 6
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is involved in a government effort to disarm America’s veterans and seniors who may lack the capacity to manage their finances. And it’s not just veterans facing this scrutiny: now it’s anybody who gets Social Security. New documents obtained by The Daily Caller reveal that ATF, a division of the Department of Justice, is working with the FBI and the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to enter veterans who get VA benefits into the government’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System. TheDC first reported on a government program in which the VA sends veterans’ medical information to the FBI to disarm them. VA uses sneaky criteria to get veterans on the list for “persons prohibited under federal law from receiving or possessing firearms.” If a veteran is deemed incapable of managing his or her own finances, the VA sends his or her information to the FBI to be automatically added to the criminal background check system. For some injured veterans, their incompetence was determined merely because they signed up for auto-pay on their debit cards, because their wife gives them financial advice, or because they asked for an in-house assistant to help with chores. The VA sends this list to the FBI every month. At last count, there were more than 120,000 veterans in the government’s background check system. Now we know that the enforcement agency ATF is working with the VA and FBI to suppress information about the program. Michael Connelly, executive director of the United States Justice Foundation, sent Freedom of Information Act requests about the program to four federal government agencies. But when it came to get a response, he got one from a fifth agency that he didn’t even request information from: ATF. Connelly, whose research blew the lid off the program in our previous Daily Caller expose, learned that FBI sent his request to ATF, which stifled it. The FBI sent ATF seven pages of documents pursuant to Connelly’s information request to check with them first. ATF denied Connelly’s request for information, telling him that the agency is “withholding deliberative materials” in a letter dated July 12. Why? ATF claims it can withhold “inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in litigation with the agency.” So, if different agencies swap memos around to each other, then you need to sue them to get the documents under public disclosure law? And the story is getting bigger. The Los Angeles Times reported this weekend that the Obama administration is trying to get the Social Security Administration to provide information to the FBI on Social Security beneficiaries who can be prohibited from owning a firearm for some form of incompetence. The Times cited the VA’s strategy of using veterans’ financial records against them. “As I predicted the assault on veterans’ 2nd Amendment rights was just the beginning,” Connelly said. “Social Security recipients would be next. The LA Times has confirmed it. Sometimes I hate it when I am right.”
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Documents obtained by The Daily Caller and interviews with American veterans reveal a shocking government program: The Department of Veterans Affairs is disarming America’s veterans by getting them placed on the FBI’s criminal background-check list. The VA sends veterans’ personal medical and financial information directly to the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, which can seize their guns in home raids. Veterans deemed mentally incompetent or financially incapable are finally speaking out about the errors in the system and the fearful harassment they and their families face from the federal government. And it all starts when vets go to the VA to get medical help. Here’s what we know: VA medical information is used to block veterans from possessing firearms: The Daily Caller obtained a “MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS AND THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION REGARDING THE NATIONAL INSTANT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM.” The document, dated Feb. 27, 2012, makes clear the VA must send health information to the FBI for its gun background-check database. “VA will provide an encrypted compact disc exchanged via mail to the FBI no less than quarterly for, inter alia, inclusion in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS),” the memo reads. The memo defines the NICS database as a list of “persons prohibited under federal law from receiving or possessing firearms.” “Data disclosed by VA to the FBI under the terms of this agreement is to be entered into the NICS Index…” U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
We're at a point in our history that if you can't keep your hands on your guns, and govt. agencies at bay, you don't deserve to own them.
============================================= History is being RE-WRITTEN as we speak .. U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Well vets, do you STILL believe you were sent over there to defend freedom?
John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
And young potential cannon fodder, do you STILL believe this government has any legitimacy whatsoever?
VA Sends Veterans’ Medical Info To FBI To Get Their Guns Taken Away
#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
We're at a point in our history that if you can't keep your hands on your guns, and govt. agencies at bay, you don't deserve to own them.
#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
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