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Title: The Nanking Massacre - Why China Still Hates Japan
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Published: Aug 14, 2015
Author: TestTube News
Post Date: 2015-08-14 00:25:57 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: japan, china, nanking, massacre
Views: 1082
Comments: 28

China and Japan have a long history of rivalry and conflict, marred by war and atrocities. Today, both nations’ economies are thriving, and they’re big trade partners, so why does China still resent Japan? TestTube Daily takes a look at the countries’ dark past and the effect it's had on their relationship today.

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#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The Japanese have tried their best to forget Unit 731, but the Chinese haven't.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-08-14   8:48:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull, neoconsnailed (#8)

Thanks for that video.

A common 'bonus' the the Japanese invading and occupying Manchuria was the special prize of gutting pregnant Chinese women on the street from the vagina to the top of the chest cavity, thus leaving the fetus to perish in the open.

The sickness of this has not left the memory of the Chinese. Nobody can blame either the Koreans or the Chinese for seeking closure on the atrocities the Japanese wrought on them during those terribly dark years. It has been passed down from generation to generation.

Japan is at least ONE of the primary reasons China is building up it's navy as fast as it can. Imagine a Chinese invasion of Japan? And THAT is why the Japanese are seeking to remove the WWII armistice that prevents them from maintaining large military forces.

Add Russia, the Philippines, South Vietnam, Thailand, and all the other nations bordering the China/Japan seas and you begin to see the Old Demon coming back out of the box.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-08-14   14:21:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14)

Has anybody ever heard an explanation as to WHY the Japs did it? Such a normal, very cultured bunch of folks otherwise. Looks like China had "regional dominance in East Asia"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sino-Japanese_War

and Japan grabbed Korea from them, and they were off and running. Maybe the real first cause was "After two centuries, the Japanese policy of seclusion under the shoguns of the Edo period came to an end when the country was forced open to trade by United States intervention in 1854" -- above link. Gee, what would the past century have been like if Japan had been left to its own devices? amerika can NEVER let well enough alone.

Blaming amerika works with such blessed simplicity, it's almost as easy and natural as blaming the Jues -- also usually valid! Regret to say I had a direct ancestor on Perry's barge. The days of taking pride in something like that or having forebears who came over with William the Bastard are long gone -- wow, that was the fiend's other name!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki /William_the_Conqueror

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-14   15:22:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#15)

and Japan grabbed Korea from them, and they were off and running.

The culture of both China and Korea as they were emerging from the 18th century was by any standard feudal and medieval. The governing and trading classes and the nobility were mercilessly corrupt and predatory, by and large.

The other side of the coin--and there is always another side to the coin--is that Korea had never experienced a rate of material progress in its history the like of which was seen during the Japanese occupation of that country. The Japanese did much to moderate the exactions of the nobility upon the peasantry of that country. The Japanese encouraged education (of both sexes), built housing, infrastructure, telecommunication, roads, bridges, and in general brought Korea into the 20th century. They came as conquerors, but they brought virtues other than the purely military ones with them. Koreans are loathe to admit this phase of their history and they would rather forget those parts of it. Readers can satisfy themselves with the statistics. They are quite readily available.

But competition with the West and the desire for empire unfortunately also brought out the dark side of that island culture, and Japan's neighbors suffered from occupation under a military steeped in sadistic levels of discipline directed at its own recruits and soldiers and toward subject populations as well. Japan would have done well to bow out once it was no longer welcome. Empire builders seldom know when it's time to cut losses and carry out an orderly retreat with the nation's standards flying.

randge  posted on  2015-08-14   15:51:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge (#19)

Thank you so much for filling me in there. Fascinating and enlightening. Yeah, any country that finds it's good at messing with other countries (even to the benefit of some) gets too big for its britches. Tell me, how long do you suppose Japan could have remained shut up? One of the few times the word isolationist actually applies. I suppose population pressures ruin everything where other factors are fine in many cases, but mebbe without Western medicine and santitation Japan's population would have corrected itself indefinitely.

Modernizing is a wonderful thing, except that many people ultimately have no choice in whether to accept it -- esp. if amerika's on the other end of the phone.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-14   16:01:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

Tell me, how long do you suppose Japan could have remained shut up?

Wow. Good question. I confess I'm not well-read enough into that slice of time and place to offer an opinion, but it wouldn't have been much longer before the winds of change came from another direction. The industrial revolution was a whirlwind and Japan couldn't have stood impassively in the face of it for long.

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