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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/sheriff-com ... tutionalists-to-isis/?AID=7236
Published: Aug 14, 2015
Author: Mikael Thalen
Post Date: 2015-08-15 12:08:33 by BTP Holdings
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Sheriff Compares Constitutionalists to ISIS "There are some of those folks that want to overthrow the government, period... this is how ISIS starts" Sheriff Compares Constitutionalists to ISIS by Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com | August 14, 2015 Spokane County Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich linked “rhetoric” from supporters of the U.S. Constitution to violent anti-government groups and ISIS this week in an exposé on the officer’s fight against “homegrown extremists.” Artist’s rendition of Sheriff Knezovich standing on “Don’t Tread on Me” flag in August issue of the Inlander / Click to enlarge (Note: Knezovich uninvolved in cover choice) In an article featured in the August 2015 edition of the Inlander, the Washington state sheriff draws comparisons to the ISIS terrorist group while railing against everyone from Infowars’ Alex Jones to Washington State Rep. Matthew Shea. “There are some of those folks that want to overthrow the government, period. They want to hit a reset button,” Knezovich said. “If they’re willing to lie to get that reset button — this is how ISIS starts.” The Inlander piece highlights the sheriff’s ongoing campaign against local conservative groups who he feels are pushing dangerous rhetoric. When asked to specifically name those responsible, Knezovich pointed to both Rep. Shea and “all those folks that created the video about the Deputy.” Knezovich’s statement refers to exclusive footage released by Infowars last December which highlighted unsettling comments made by a Spokane sheriff’s deputy as he stood next to the department’s mine-resistant ambush protected military vehicle (MRAP). After a local resident approached and questioned law enforcement’s need for military hardware, the deputy immediately used “constitutionalists” with “firearms” as justification. “I mean, we’ve got a lot of constitutionalists and a lot of people that stockpile weapons, lots of ammunition,” the deputy said. “They have weapons here locally.” The video brought about an immediate backlash after receiving nationwide attention, causing Knezovich to accuse Infowars of “hatemongering” and taking the deputy’s comments out of context. “Instead of apologizing for the comments made by his deputy, Sheriff Knezovich essentially blamed Infowars for daring to report on the issue, claiming that the quote was taken out of context while failing to explain how such a brazen statement could be taken for anything other than its face value,” noted Infowars’ Paul Joseph Watson at the time. Speaking with Infowars, Rep. Shea expressed outrage at Knezovich’s latest comments and also the article’s analysis on a local pastor. “I fought Islamic terrorists on the ground in Iraq face-to-face,” Shea said. “I lost a man – who was a Christian and who would have fit the Sheriff’s definition of a constitutionalist – under my command fighting Islamic terrorists.” “It is outrageous to compare constitutionalists and Christians to ISIS! We believe in freedom. We believe in liberty. A value set that is rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition. ISIS is anathema to those things. I call on every Christian and constitutionalist in this country to demand an apology from this Sheriff for his outrageous comments and demand his immediate resignation.” Knezovich also went as far as to blame Infowars’ Alex Jones for a group of men who were arrested earlier this month for an alleged “murderous Jade Helm 15 retaliation plot.” “This right here is all because of a bunch of words from Alex Jones,” Knezovich said. “Alex Jones started the Jade Helm fire. Words become reality.” The sheriff pointed to the Bundy Ranch as well, accusing supporters of looking for a “trigger” to take on the government. “There are people out there looking for that trigger,” he said. “They were praying that trigger would be at Bundy Ranch.” A vocal supporter of the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that similarly and falsely links law-abiding Americans to domestic extremism, Knezovich states that such groups are breeding a generation of Americans who distrust their government. “You will not have a next generation to defend this country,” the sheriff said. “You will have all taught them to hate and distrust this nation.” “Alex Jones makes a ton of money selling fear. Matt Shea is an elected official who gets elected selling fear.”
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So he has to be the world's only Jue sheriff. Charleston had black Jue police chief, but I don't think he was a commie like this creep. Glad he got embarrassed this way, whether he admits it or not!
Hard to imagine Ozzie being elected to any office; what a goof.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I really wish people would learn to use the word "compare" correctly.
Southern Poverty Law Center SPLC and Morris Does are both freaks. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Yes?
I suggest the next president be addressed as "Chancellor" as befits Weimar America.
John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. 99% of the time "compare" is used in a political context, it is used wrong. As in "NYT compares George Bush to Hitler!" or "History prof compares Confederate flag supporters to KKK!" Or, "You can't compare Planned Parenthood doctors to Josef Mengele!" What they mean is "liken to", not "compare". You can compare anything to anything; the act of comparing two things per se doesn't mean that you are equating them. Indeed, we often compare things just to see how they differ (compare and contrast). Using "compare" to mean "liken to" is sloppy and indicates that the writer (or speaker) is not very bright and/or not very honest.
Some people call me a gangster of love. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
I think usage may have cut a permanent path in that definition long time ago. "2. To liken; to represent as similar, for the purpose of illustration."
From the olde school, I'll go with "liken."
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Moses and Shakespeare are blessing you :-) "Pastor, if the King James Bible was good enough for St. Paul, I think it should be good enough for us today" -- old lady. I need MORE party, gang. It's only 10:30 EST!.......
Get down, you funky grammarians!
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Speaking with Infowars, Rep. Shea expressed outrage at Knezovich’s latest comments and also the article’s analysis on a local pastor. “This right here is all because of a bunch of words from Alex Jones,” Knezovich said. The sheriff pointed to the Bundy Ranch as well, accusing supporters of looking for a “trigger” to take on the government. “There are people out there looking for that trigger,” he said. “They were praying that trigger would be at Bundy Ranch.” A vocal supporter of the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that similarly and falsely links law-abiding Americans to domestic extremism, Knezovich states that such groups are breeding a generation of Americans who distrust their government. Tensions High as 'Oath Keepers' Descend on Ferguson in Full Military Gear - with 4 min. YT video at sputniknews.com 11.08.2015 They call themselves the “Oath Keepers,” an organization of former military, police, and first responders, who seek to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."They wear bulletproof vests and communicate through two-way radios. They carry pistols attached to their hips as a secondary measure. Their primary tools are automatic assault rifles. "I’m happy that we’re able to defend ourselves. It’s been our right for a long time," one member told NBC, speaking about the state’s open carry laws. Missouri allows licensed individuals to openly carry firearms, provided they’re not doing so in an "angry or threatening manner," though that caveat is certainly up for interpretation. While they may consider themselves as defenders of freedom, others have a hard time seeing them as anything other than a right-wing militia fueled by a shared love of the Second Amendment. The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization, has described the group as a "fiercely anti-government, militaristic group." "Their presence was both unnecessary and inflammatory," St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said, according to Reuters. Still, the question remains: who did send in the civilian cavalry? The Oath Keepers made headlines last month when the group took it upon itself to guard military recruitment centers. Blaming the US government for failing to prevent a shooting which left four dead in Tennessee, the Oath Keepers took up arms before local authorities asked them, politely, to please stop. It’s entirely possible that the organization’s emergence in Ferguson is a similar voluntary fashion. But according to [ "There were problems here, there were people who got hurt. We needed to be prepared for that," John said, according to Reuters. Infowars has denied any affiliation with Oath Keepers. "Despite the remark by ‘John,’ Infowars did not hire the Oath Keepers to protect its journalists reporting from the embattled Missouri city," reads a statement from the website. "The Oath Keepers went to Ferguson on their own without consulting with Infowars." The website also claims that the allegations are an attempt by the mainstream media to link Infowars with extremist groups. One reason I posted that is because it sounds like Infowars was not only distancing itself from any association with Oathkeepers in Ferguson then but was equating them to an extremist group; instead of to a grouping of Constitutionalist Patriots (which the Infowars video of last December in the Opening Post was supposedly concerned about because of interview statements made by Knezovich's Deputy). Another reason for posting those comments, along with those by the Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC-supporter, Sheriff Knezovich, etc., is that it all seems somewhat similar to the UK's shiftings away from Civic solidarity and beneficial community empowerments to more Police State measures, statist economics modus operandi and so on. Two forerunners of the gov-upsurge "revisings" there were the London area riots in 2011 and the alleged 2013 terror attack in Woolwich on a Military-based target (reportedly: soldier Lee Rigby), soon before Edward Snowden and the USA NSA became World News. Archiving some references on the UK's scrapping of it's Big Society pretenses for bigger Police State agendas of the ruling classes: In March 2010, The Daily Telegraph wrote: "We demand vision from our would-be leaders, and here is one who offers a big one, of a society rebuilt from the ground up".[27] In April 2010 The Times described the Big Society as "an impressive attempt to reframe the role of government and unleash entrepreneurial spirit".[28] During the course of the 2010–15 government the Big Society declined as an instrument of government policy. David Cameron did not use [the] term in public after 2013 and the phrase ceased to be used in government statements.[51] 2011 England riots - Wikipedia YouTube example: London Riots - Rioters attack Police in Woolwich!(UPDATE) - 2 minutes The 2011 English summer riots revisited - Telegraph But I fear there is more to it than that. For something rather odd started to happen, even as events were unrolling: we were told, [t]hese riots were [not] about race ... the political class and the mainstream media ... led by the Prime Minister, began an extraordinary exercise of what, with reference to George Orwell’s Newspeak, we might call New Sight. Firmly donning his magic spectacles, which rendered him unshakeably colour blind, David Cameron proclaimed the new truth: “It wasn’t race riots”. He was echoed from the other end of the political spectrum by Max Wind-Cowie of the Leftish think-tank Demos, who asserted even more confidently: “This is not about race at all.” The Prime Minister proclaimed the “moral collapse” of society. And Iain Duncan Smith declared the riots would be as important a turning point for the Cameron Government as 9/11 had been for Tony Blair. 4um Refs. for review of the 2013 UK Police State blitz: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag? -- Posts #10 ... #11 [Prevent strategy] ... #20 ... + Sweden summit info at another Woolwich discussion. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're right, i did not even notice the subtlety but now that you have pointed it out, it is clear as day and yet another reason i loath aj. He didnt say that the oath keeprs are being mislabled or misrepresented. He didn't stand up for them at all but rather threw them under the bus.... and yet he still has fans and followers. I don't get it. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
OUT OF CONTEXT -- that is SO trite!!!! How dare any of these cons pull that one out of the bag anymore. LIARS!!
He didnt say that they oath keeprs are being mislabled or misrepresented. He didn't stand up for them at all but rather threw them under the bus.... and yet he still has fans and followers. I don't get it. The Infowars article at the opening post didn't mention Oath Keepers, so I wouldn't have noticed either without reading the foreign news-source reporting of the issues. Whether Infowars did or didn't intend to stereotype Oath Keeper Constitutionalists as an extremist group, it should clarify the matter promptly with an unambiguous address of explanation. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That seems incongruous to me. I thought Jones was a self proclaimed "defender of the Constitution". I wonder why he is apparently distancing himself from Oathkeepers? During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Hardly a reason to push him down the garbage disposal in any case.
No? Hypocrisy isn't a good enough reason? Sigh. People didn't stop listening when he broadcast the phoney russian invasion on new years eve 2000. People didn't Stop listening when he betrayed the folks in trinidad. People didn't stop listening when he tried and failed to beat another host at the radio station. People didn't stop listening when he attempted to hijack the austin protest...... It is like aj has a free pass to double speak because he touches on issue of tyranny...but according to aj the right way to correct this tryanny is.by writing our.congressmen and distancing ourselves from radicals like the oath keepers... I swear he is like th pied pipper leading his fans towards the cliff. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
Writing Congressmen has more impact that people think, if they would just DO it -- and call and visit them. You can't name a rightist leader of whom bad stuff isn't alleged including D. Duke.
No, i whole heartedly disagree. At this point writing congress rats is useless in my opinion. And i speak from experience. I used to write my reps. I stopped after noticing the replies were being computer generated from templates and those templates would never have anything to do with my concerns.... And that is the ultimate flaw in the system. Just because they are representing you doesn't mean they have to pay attention. Hence all the people with deep pockets getting all the attention. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
CONgress does not give one fat rat's ass what we think. We don't give them enough jack to care what we think. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The Oath Keepers made headlines last month when the group took it upon itself to guard military recruitment centers. Blaming the US government for failing to prevent a shooting which left four dead in Tennessee, the Oath Keepers took up arms before local authorities asked them, politely, to please stop. It’s entirely possible that the organization’s emergence in Ferguson is a similar voluntary fashion. But according to [ "There were problems here, there were people who got hurt. We needed to be prepared for that," John said, according to Reuters. Infowars has denied any affiliation with Oath Keepers. "Despite the remark by ‘John,’ Infowars did not hire the Oath Keepers to protect its journalists reporting from the embattled Missouri city," reads a statement from the website. "The Oath Keepers went to Ferguson on their own without consulting with Infowars." The website also claims that the allegations are an attempt by the mainstream media to link Infowars with extremist groups. Me at #14: it sounds like Infowars was not only distancing itself from any association with Oathkeepers in Ferguson then but was equating them to an extremist group; instead of to a grouping of Constitutionalist Patriots Bill D Berger at #18: That seems incongruous to me. I thought Jones was a self proclaimed "defender of the Constitution". I wonder why he is apparently distancing himself from Oathkeepers? To recap and update for the topic-posters (flagged consecutively) and any other readers, my main concern was with the last article-statement underlined above, indicative that Infowars was disassociating from Oath Keepers as an "extremist group". Since then, I was able to locate the official statement at Infowars, which had been referenced by the sputnik.com article. However, it sounded rather more critical of Oath Keepers when read fully in context there than it did in that article reporting about it. Here's a linked copy: INFOWARS DID NOT HIRE OATH KEEPERS by INFOWARS.COM | AUGUST 11, 2015 The corporate media insists Oath Keepers were hired by Alex Jones and Infowars to protect journalists in Ferguson, Missouri. [1.75 minute YouTube: Media Lies About Oath keepers Published on Aug 11, 2015 by The Alex Jones Channel Infowars never paid Oath keepers for protection.] Newsweek reported this morning: Despite the remark by “John,” Infowars did not hire the Oath Keepers to protect its journalists reporting from the embattled Missouri city. The Oath Keepers went to Ferguson on their own without consulting with Infowars. This was confirmed by Infowars reporter Joe Biggs from Ferguson this morning. He said the Oath Keepers arrived in Ferguson to assist business owners and residents protect their property from looters and arsonists. The claim allegedly made by a member of the Oath Keepers has provided a pretext for CBS News to link Alex Jones and Infowars to extremist groups, including white supremacists. Most other research confirmed that Infowars/Alex Jones is still very supportive of Oath Keepers, such as this Washington Post quote of Jones (at the last link of the official Infowars statement): ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Or did Infowars and OKs agree for the the former to appear to denounce the latter for purely strategic purposes? That'd be OK with me -- it's simply the kind of semiotic theater the enemy does all the time. One must hope that D. Trump's present slams of Hilldebeast aren't a perfect example of the same thing.
A vocal supporter of the Southern Poverty Law Center
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Sheriff Compares Constitutionalists to ISIS
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Marxism: steal everything
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I suggest the next president be addressed as "Chancellor" as befits Weimar America.
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I need MORE party, gang. It's only 10:30 EST!.......
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Spokane County Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich linked “rhetoric” from supporters of the U.S. Constitution to violent anti-government groups and ISIS this week in an exposé on the officer’s fight against “homegrown extremists.”
a new factor could add to tensions in a racially charged environment: a group of four white men, voluntarily patrolling the streets with military-grade weaponry.
the leader of the group, someone] known only as John, the Oath Keepers were present to protect a journalist from conservative website Infowars. The stated aim was to create a climate that empowered local people and communities, building a "big society" that would take power away from politicians and give it to people.[6] In UK politics the Big Society concept applies to domestic policy in England only.
A year after the riots in England ... amnesia has swept over our political class, and now it’s almost a case of “Riots? What riots?”.
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The video brought about an immediate backlash after receiving nationwide attention, causing Knezovich to accuse Infowars of “hatemongering” and taking the deputy’s comments out of context.
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You're right, i did not even notice to subtlety but now that you have pointed it out, it is clear as day and yet another reason i loath aj.
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....it sounds like Infowars was not only distancing itself from any association with Oathkeepers in Ferguson then but was equating them to an extremist group; instead of to a grouping of Constitutionalist Patriots
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Hardly a reason to push him down the garbage disposal in any case.
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Excerpts from the sputniknews.com article 11.08.2015 quoted at #14:
the leader of the group, someone] known only as John, the Oath Keepers were present to protect a journalist from conservative website Infowars. Corporate media falsely reports Infowars hired Oath Keepers to protect its journalists
Led by a man who gave his name only as John, the group, whose members wore bulletproof vests and carried sidearms in addition to combat-style rifles, said they had come to protect a journalist from the conservative “Infowars.com” Web site.
“I think the Oath Keepers is one of the best things to happen to America since the American revolution,” Jones wrote. ”There are two camps of critics of Oath Keepers: the ignorant people who believe everything they read, and the cunning tyrants who want the treasonous and lawless federal government to march ahead unopposed.”
Evidently, Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson were reporting for Infowars in Ferguson where an officer-involved shooting had recently occurred [1.5 min. video at 1:17-1:19]. Missouri Oath Keepers voluntarily went there to help, if needed, to protect people, property and their Infowars friends. They were questioned by the Police Chief and told that there was a legal issue about them needing a security license, whether they had been hired for that or not [4.75 min. video at 1:06-1:20]. The Infowars statement was probably intended to fend off being involved in such a court dispute. Even so, the last paragraph of it reads more like a turncoat defamation of Oath Keepers than it does a Constitutionalist Patriot rebuke of CBS and Corporate Media. Should be edited, imo, or others who might not research further than that could maybe get such a disturbing impression.
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