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Title: Who Knew Trump Would Get ANCHOR BABIES Right? - Is a Constitutional Scholar
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URL Source: http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/w ... -was-a-constitutional-scholar/
Published: Aug 23, 2015
Author: The Common Constitutionalist
Post Date: 2015-08-23 13:57:58 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: donald trump, 2016, anchor baby
Views: 137
Comments: 5

Yesterday, I wrote an article regarding Donald Trump's immigration platform, or, more to the point, how to prevent illegal immigration and what to do with the ones who are already here. You may review it here.

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In it, I referenced The Donald's now infamous retort to Chuck Todd, who claimed that, by deported all illegals, Trump would be breaking up families and attempting to deport people with birthright citizenship. I quoted Trump telling Todd that he would keep the families together, "but they have to go." I can't remember a time when one statement has caused so much angst.

Robert Tracinski at The Federalist argues that deporting birthright citizens would be a direct assault on the Constitution and "the thousand year history of English common law."

He says to do so, "requires precisely the sort of thing conservatives are supposed to be against." He explains that, at the time of the founding, America embraced birthright citizenship - that "for the Founders, rejecting jus soli or birthright citizenship would have meant either greatly restricting the growth and expansion of the new nation or, more likely, creating a system in which there was a large and growing subpopulation of people who were disenfranchised in the land of their own birth. An idea totally incompatible with a government based on the consent of the governed."

Tracinski then moves on to the 14th amendment, which is the centerpiece of the argument for birthright citizenship. The 14th amendment was the second post-Civil War amendment and was written to bestow citizenship on the freed slaves.

Like Tracinski, I too argued that Trump couldn't just deport "birthright citizens."

So now, I am here to eat crow, as it were. I thought I recalled the 14th amendment sufficiently to disagree with Trump, I was wrong—so are Tracinski and anyone else who hold up this amendment as proof that these illegals are, in fact, citizens.

And, of course, it took my favorite and most knowledgeable constitutional scholar, Mark Levin, to remind me of this.

The 14th amendment, ratified July 9, 1868, reads: "Section1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

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If one wishes to fully understand the Constitution, one must also read what the Founders said and wrote regarding it. This is what is called original intent. By doing so, one can glean not only what they wrote but the motive behind it, which can be found in many letters the founders wrote to each other and, of course, the Federalist Papers. In short, go back to the source.

And Levin did just that. He writes that Senator Jacob Howard authored the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. "He [Howard] told us what he meant. He defined who would fall within the jurisdiction of the United States."

This is what Howard said: "Every person born within the limits of the United States, subject to their jurisdiction, [meaning the states - their jurisdiction] is, by virtue of natural law and national law, a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great issue in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, supported Howard, contending that "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" meant "not owing allegiance to anybody else...subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States."

Well, it doesn't get much clearer than that. There can be no question of his intent and no longer any question of what he meant by "and subject to their jurisdiction." In other words, Levin writes: "You can't self-immigrate. You can't claim jurisdiction because you happen to walk into the United States," and you can't magically become a citizen if both your parents have fidelity to another nation.

So shame on me for not looking more closely at the amendment and just assuming the amendment had not been bastardized like everything else in the Constitution. Thank you, Mark Levin, for setting me straight.

And who knew The Donald would get it right? But he did, whether he knows it or not.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

I suspect that Trump has a herd of really bright wonks studying each and every issue that he'll discuss, and it seems that they're original intent constitutionalists.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-08-23   14:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

I suspect that Trump has a herd of really bright wonks studying each and every issue that he'll discuss, and it seems that they're original intent constitutionalists.

How is this possible when theDonald believes in social medical care, such as 0bamaKare?

Pridie Nones  posted on  2015-08-23   16:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1)

It seems. Otoh, it seems Trump is running some pretty good interference for Hillary, and right when she needs it most.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-08-23   16:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Obnoxicated (#3)

The complaint is heard that immigration is Trump's only known conservative stance except for the Bible being his (GROANNNN) "favorite book". Checking his website and feeling sure it's going to list at least a few more good solid positions on issues...... well, try it yourself:

www.donaldjtrump.com/positions< /a>

Doesn't look good!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-08-23   20:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Robert Tracinski at The Federalist argues that deporting [birthright citizens the foreign nationals born to immigration lawbreakers] would be a direct assault on the Constitution and "the thousand year history of English common law."

Tracinski and his ilk are undermining the Constitution and the birthright of all American citizens born of American parentage, too -- as if everyone born here, to illegal alien invaders or not, has a geographic birthright to American citizenship and American parentage is only incidental for determining birthright citizenship if born in a foreign country.

Also, America isn't England:

A Founding Father quoted at federalistblog.us:

“The common law of England is not the common law of these States.” – George Mason

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-08-24   7:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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