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Title: The Cowardly Push to Get Women into Combat
Source: time.com
URL Source: http://nation.time.com/2013/07/25/t ... push-to-get-women-into-combat/
Published: Jul 25, 2015
Author: Mark Thompson interviewing
Post Date: 2015-09-07 12:44:17 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Robert Maginnis
Views: 308
Comments: 20

AUTHOR Q&A

July 25, 2013

Earlier this year, the Pentagon lifted the ban on women serving in U.S. combat units – including elite special-operations units like the Navy’s SEALs – if they can clear the physical and mental hurdles. While official Washington has saluted and moved on to other matters, there remains a rumble of opposition, especially evident when chatting with soldiers and Marines. Some argue that the existing standards – which already have kept several women from passing the Marines’ grueling infantry officers course – will basically act as a bar to women in the more demanding kinds of combat.

But Robert Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and West Point graduate, fears that won’t happen. He spells out what he sees as the dangers of opening combat billets to women in his new book, Deadly Consequences: How Cowards Are Pushing Women into Combat. His key concern is that, under political pressure, the military will ease its standards, resulting in a less-capable force. Battleland recently conducted this email chat with him.

What’s the key thing you learned in writing Deadly Consequences: How Cowards Are Pushing Women into Combat?

Pentagon brass are kowtowing to their political masters and radical feminists to remove exemptions for women in ground combat in defiance of overwhelming scientific evidence and combat experience.

This craven behavior is terribly dangerous for our armed forces, our national security, and especially the young women who will be placed in harm’s way.

Pentagon officials insist they won’t lower standards to enable more women in combat units. Do you believe them?

I don’t believe them, and neither should the American people.

The Obama Administration and the Pentagon say they will maintain high standards “to ensure that the mission is met with the best-qualified and most capable people, regardless of gender,” in the words of former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta.

Personnel policy, however, is driven by the “diversity metrics” outlined in the 2011 Report of the Military Leadership Diversity Commission.

Diversity, not military readiness, is the highest priority.

General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has admitted as much. In the press conference announcing the rescission of the 1994 rule excluding women from ground combat units, he said, “If we do decide that a particular standard is so high that a woman couldn’t make it, the burden is now on the service to come back and explain to the secretary, why is it that high?”

The proper question is “Do we have the personnel we need to meet the current high standards for combat units?”

The answer right now is yes.

There is no shortage of able-bodied male volunteers who meet the existing, battle-tested standards for ground combat positions.

So why ask the services to consider changing the standards? Because this has become more about politics than fielding the most capable fighting force.

What do you see as the three biggest risks to letting women serve in the combat arms?

There are a multitude of risks—far more than most people realize, especially those without military experience. Among the many risks I discuss in “Deadly Consequences” are these three:

— First, standards will be lowered. As a practical matter, there has to be a certain minimum number of women in combat units for the policy to succeed. That can be accomplished only by “gender norming” the standards for combat service. Lower standards will inevitably degrade combat effectiveness, and the nation will be less secure. There is also good evidence that the policy will harm military recruitment and retention.

— Second, women who serve as ground combatants, whether by choice or under compulsion, will suffer disproportionate physical and psychological harm.

— Third, the already serious problem of sexual assault in the military will get worse. Notwithstanding the Administration’s wishful thinking, this prediction is borne out by the statistics.

What do you think will happen, given the push to let women serve in combat, if the nation ever needs to reinstitute the draft?

Lifting all combat exclusions for women virtually guarantees that the Supreme Court will declare male-only conscription unconstitutional.

And a return to the draft is far more likely than most people realize. The unsustainably high cost of the all-volunteer force, especially with $17 trillion in national debt, and the expected requirements of future military operations will probably lead to a resumption of the draft, however politically unpopular it might be.

When that happens, women will be drafted and forced into ground combat roles.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff endorse the idea of women serving in combat. Are they the “cowards” you refer to in your subtitle?

They demonstrate a cowardice of silence because they know better. The scientific evidence and the lessons of combat experience are utterly one-sided: women are unsuited for ground combat service.

Congress has the constitutional responsibility to set the rules and regulations governing the armed forces (Article I, Section 8).

Unfortunately, Congress is as cowardly as the Joint Chiefs.

Putting women in combat is as historic a change of military policy as anything I can think of, yet neither house has held full hearings on the question in over 20 years.

The politicians are running scared.

You said letting openly gay men and women serve in uniform would be a disaster, and likely lead to problems with recruiting and retention. None of that has come to pass. So why should we pay attention to your arguments about women in combat?

It is much too early to assess the effects of open homosexuality in the military.

The Pentagon has not released any external or internal surveys on recruiting and retention since “don’t ask, don’t tell” was repealed. The Pentagon survey conducted prior to the repeal demonstrated substantial opposition within the ranks, which continues today.

What we do have is the Pentagon-sponsored 2013 Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Office survey, which found a giant increase in unwanted male-on-male sexual contact since the repeal.

According to the New York Times, 13,900 active-duty men and 12,100 active duty women said they had experienced unwanted sexual contact in 2012, the first full year after repeal of the homosexual ban.

The proportion of female victims is much higher, of course, but the Pentagon obviously has a serious problem with male-on-male sexual assaults.

Is there cause and effect here or merely correlation?

It is too early to say, but there is certainly no basis for declaring the new policy on homosexuality a success.


Poster Comment:

"Congress has the constitutional responsibility to set the rules and regulations governing the armed forces (Article I, Section 8)." -- not the Executive branch, not the Judicial branch, not Pentagon Policies nor any office or branch of the Armed Forces, not the Council on Foreign Relations and not the UN [See: usconstitution.net: AIS8 + 4um Reference].

Recommending both links within the opening article.

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political pressure ... the Council on Foreign Relations ... the UN

More on the foreign political pressures of "diversity management" to fashion combat for women at 4um Title: "U.S. military pressed to design special line of combat boots just for women" - Post #4: info on UN Women HQ, CFR/Council on Foreign Relations, genderandsecurity.org and Handbook of International Relations.

From a July 24, 2013 book review at amazon.com of Deadly Consequences: How Cowards are Pushing Women into Combat:

The REAL war on women is pushing us into combat

Maginnis shows that the arguments being made (by radical feminists, leftist politicians, and politician-like top military brass) in favor of women in combat dismiss and ignore the most important considerations of the problem. While they argue that it is an issue of equality, Maginnis shows why the scientific biological differences between men and women put women at a serious disadvantage on the battlefield, destroy operational standards and military readiness.

women are injured twice to four times as much as men, or more. They are leaving deployments at three times the rate of men, and mostly for non-combat-related issues. This is not enhancing our ability to fight, as feminists argue, it's absolutely destroying it (that is the goal). The toll of putting women into combat units will be taken in greater female casualties, motherless children, psychological turmoil, sexual assaults, and more brutal torture if captured by the enemy than men historically have endured. This, he rightly points out, is the real war on women.

Pushing women into combat units sets everyone up for failure, and the enemy cares nothing for diversity quotas. In fact, he says, they have historically fought more viciously when women are on the battlefield. He takes each oft-cited country that has tried putting women in combat and exposes that they lowered their standards (Canada) , don't actually put their women at the front (Israel), haven't had a need for serious military readiness (New Zealand, Norway, Germany) or abandoned the policy altogether (Russia).

From examiner.com June 13, 2014: Israeli study finds, 'Women Don't Belong in Combat' - Dothan Marine Corps - Examiner.com

A new Israeli study claims after 13 years of research involving women participating in combat roles in the IDF that women are not suited to be in combat units, according to the website Arutz Sheva.

Col. (res.) Raza Sagi, a former infantry regiment commander, declared:

"The feminist experiment in the Israeli military a failure." Lochamot Betzahal.

He noted the higher rates of "serious injury among women serving in combat units." Sagi, like many, believe women were allowed into combat units based on a [series] of campaigns launched by "radical political groups" that pushed for women to be allowed in combat.

We all know that men also suffer from injuries during their combat duties, but the studies prove that women have a much higher percentage rate of incurring a serious injury.

It's a ridiculous notion that most feminists and those who believe women should be in combat have the idea that there's no difference between men and women serving in the military.

"The book describes ludicrous measures by which women's lesser suitability for combat roles is masked. These include lowering the bar of requirements for women wishing to enter combat units, placing benches next to walls that trainees jump over (only for the women to use), running laps in circles (instead of straight-line runs from point A to point B) to make it less obvious that the women are lagging behind the men, and more, according to the Arutz Sheva article.

The same exact things that happened in Israel, the lies, misleading intentions and lowering the training standards is beginning to occur here in the U.S. In Jan. of 2013, the Obama administration announced its intentions "to change the long-standing combat exclusion policy that limited women to support jobs in the military;

At 4um Title: "U.S. military pressed to design special line of combat boots just for women" - Post #11:

News & Commentary - Center for Military Readiness

Article February 20, 2015: New British Report Shreds Case for Women in Direct Ground Combat - News & Commentary - Center for Military Readiness

Also:

Article June 9, 2015: Israeli Defense Force Decides: Armored Tanks Will Stay All-Male - News & Commentary - Center for Military Readiness, excerpts:

While some American military leaders are preparing to order women into combat arms units such as the infantry by January 2016, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) and the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) are moving in the opposite direction. The Israeli and British decisions to keep certain land combat units all-male reflect extensive field tests and U.S. Marine Corps research confirming major differences in the physical capabilities of military women and men in the combat arms.

Israel exists under constant threats, so most able-bodied citizens are conscripted to serve in the military. On May 18 the Jewish Press quoted the Hebrew-language YnetNews.com in reporting that even with personnel shortages, IDF officials have decided that women will not be assigned to armored tank units

Washington Times reporter Rowan Scarborough researched the largely-unreported news from Israel and wrote a front-page story that should give American policy-makers pause: [1]

Women's Combat Roles in Israel Defense Forces Exaggerated, Military Traditionalists Say [May 25, 2015]

In the article Center for Military Readiness President Elaine Donnelly commented, “Uniformed Israeli women patrol the borders or help to train men for combat positions, but these important missions do not involve ground combat, meaning deliberate offensive action against the enemy. None of America's allies, much less potential adversaries, are treating women like men in the combat arms.”

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Co-Ed Combat sites:


Co-Ed Combat by Kingsley Browne - Conservative Book Club
conservativebookclub.com/book/co-ed-combat

Co-ed Combat: The New Evidence That Women Shouldn't Fight the Nation's Wars Hardcover – November 8, 2007 by Kingsley Browne
amazon.com/Co-ed-Comb...dnt-Nations/dp/1595230432
amazon.com/Co-ed-Comb...dnt-Nations/dp/1595230432...&linkCode=as2&

The Truth About Women in Combat - The Daily Beast
thedailybeast.com/art...the-truth-about-women-in- combat.html

Coed Combat Units - The Weekly Standard
weeklystandard.com/ar...-combat-units_697822.html
weeklystandard.com/ar...-combat-units_697822.html?page=2
weeklystandard.com/ar...-combat-units_697822.html?page=3

Why Not All-Female Combat Units - TIME.com
nation.time.com/2013/03/2...-all-female-combat-units/

CONSTRUCTING THE CO-ED MILITARY - ELAINE DONNELLY*
scholarship.law.duke.edu/...rticle=1130&context=djglp

CMR COMPILES DEFINITIVE SUMMARY OF FINDINGS ON CO-ED BASIC TRAINING - Search - Center for Military Readiness
cmrlink.org/content/article/34471

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>Gasp< Time rag calls for SEGREGATION! How can they even USE this word, such a painful reminder of Jim Crow? "of course women are perfectly capable of killing other human beings" -- oh yeah, they're that all right as any Forensic Files fan knows.

www.mintpressnews.com/wom...-unspoken-truth-domestic- violence/196746/

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