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Title: A Nation Under God
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Mother Jones
URL Source: http://motherjones.org/news/feature/2005/12/a_nation_under_god.html
Published: Dec 1, 2005
Author: John Sugg
Post Date: 2006-01-21 21:48:52 by Red Jones
Keywords: Nation, Under
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Comments: 41
A Nation Under God News: Let others worry about the rapture: For the increasingly powerful Christian Reconstruction movement, the task is to establish the Kingdom of God right now—from the courthouse to the White House. By John Sugg December/January 2006 Issue TRINITY CHAPEL in suburban Atlanta’s Cobb County is hardly the picture of a revolutionary outpost. It’s a stylishly modern Church of God—a denomination that, though conservative, is certainly mainstream. Parishioners are drawn from a community whose average income is a comfortable 35 percent above the national norm, whose tree-lined country roads intersect McMansion subdivisions. If Norman Rockwell were painting suburban sprawl, he’d likely pick Cobb County. On a Friday last April, Trinity’s parking lot filled with SUVs and luxury sedans as about 400 faithful gathered inside the sanctuary. The church was host to Restore America, a rally to “celebrate faith and patriotism” sponsored by Christian publisher American Vision. In the lobby, neatly blue-blazered youths were hawking So Help Me God, Roy Moore’s account of his dethroning as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Tables were piled with textbooks for homeschoolers, tomes denouncing evolution, booklets waxing nostalgic for the antebellum South. That afternoon the congregants, who’d come to the conference from conservative churches around the region, would hear from Sadie Fields, president of Georgia’s Christian Coalition, and they’d sway in rhythm as country crooner Steve Vaus sang “We Must Take America Back.” But the marquee pitchman of the day was Moore. Ruggedly handsome, with the military bearing he acquired at West Point, Moore has gained a rock-star following on the Christian right—a Moses to lead the chosen from a godless society. The judge has a stunning memory for long literary passages and judicial opinions, and he chants them in the singsongy, down-home style of Southern demagogues from Theo Bilbo to George Wallace—“God” is “Gawud,” with an upward lilt. When he proclaimed that “God is still sovereign, no matter what federal judges say,” the crowd tittered and applauded. When he intoned that “there is no right to sodomy in the Constitution,” they cheered. When he roared that unless judges “acknowledge God,” they “should be impeached,” the righteous noise shook the rafters. It could have been nothing more than a half-hour rebel yell—except that Moore is more than the latest prophet of the religious right. He stands a good chance of being the next governor of Alabama; he’s also arguably the single most significant politician to owe his ascendancy to Christian Reconstruction—an obscure but increasingly potent theology whose top exponents hold that Christian crusaders must conquer and convert the world, by the sword if necessary, before Jesus will return. Moore has never declared himself a Reconstructionist. But he is a frequent orator at gatherings whose organizers are part of the movement. The primary theologians, activists, and websites of Reconstruction laud him as a hero. Moore’s lawyer in the Ten Commandments fight, Herb Titus, is a Reconstructionist, as are many of his most vocal supporters, including Gary DeMar, the organizer of the Restore America rally and the head of American Vision, one of the most prolific publishers of the movement. Reconstruction is the spark plug behind much of the battle over religion in politics today. The movement’s founder, theologian Rousas John Rushdoony, claimed 20 million followers—a number that includes many who embrace the Reconstruction tenets without having joined any organization. Card-carrying Reconstructionists are few, but their influence is magnified by their leadership in Christian right crusades, from abortion to homeschooling. Reconstructionists also exert significant clout through front organizations and coalitions with other religious fundamentalists; Baptists, Anglicans, and others have deep theological differences with the movement, but they have made common cause with its leaders in groups such as the National Coalition for Revival. Reconstruction has slowly absorbed, congregation by congregation, the conservative Presbyterian Church in America (not to be confused with the progressive Presbyterian Church [USA]) and has heavily influenced others, notably the Southern Baptists. George W. Bush has called Reconstruction-influenced theoretician Marvin Olasky “compassionate conservatism’s leading thinker,” and Olasky served as one of the president’s key advisers on the creation of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. Bush also invited Reconstructionist Jack Hayford, a key figure in the Promise Keepers men’s group, to give the benediction at his first inaugural. Deposed House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, though his office won’t comment on his religious views, governs with what he calls a “biblical worldview”—one of Reconstruction’s signature phrases. And, for conspiracy buffs, two heavy contributors to the Chalcedon Foundation—Reconstruction’s main think tank—are Howard Ahmanson and Nelson Bunker Hunt, both of whose families played key roles in financing electronic voting machine manufacturer Election Systems & Software. Ahmanson is also a major sponsor of ultraconservative politicians, including California state legislator and 2003 gubernatorial candidate Tom McClintock. Yet for all its influence, Reconstruction is almost invisible to the media and secular society. Atlanta is ground zero for most Reconstruction activity—home office to DeMar’s publishing house and home district to movement prophet Larry McDonald, who served four terms in Congress in the 1970s and 1980s—but the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has done only one major article on the movement. The entire Lexis-Nexis database includes only 43 articles from all of the U.S. media that make reference to Reconstruction, and only a handful of those explore the movement. “A hundred years ago, newspapers published the sermons preachers preached on Sunday,” notes Ed Larson, a University of Georgia historian. “Everyone knew what the Baptists believed, or the Lutherans or the Presbyterians. That’s no longer the case. And it has worked to the benefit of Reconstructionists as they doggedly pursued their goal.” Reconstructionists aren’t shy about what exactly it is they are pursuing: “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise,” Gary North, a top Reconstruction theorist, wrote in his 1989 book, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism. “Those who refuse to submit publicly…must be denied citizenship.” WITH HIS KHAKI PANTS and checkered shirts, Gary DeMar could be one of a million guys meeting weekly in men’s groups at churches around the country. Bright and articulate, he’s soft-spoken until he gets in front of a crowd. His publishing house distributes hundreds of tracts, more than 20 of them written by DeMar himself, with titles such as The Politically Incorrect Guides to Islam (and the Crusades), which promises “all the disturbing facts about Islam and its murderous hostility to the West,” and The Marketing of Evil, which covers everything “from easy divorce and unrestricted abortion-on-demand to extreme body piercing and teaching homosexuality to grade-schoolers.” I first met DeMar 18 months ago at his church, Midway Presbyterian, in the Atlanta suburb of Powder Springs, where he was teaching a class on government. During the session, a teenage homeschooler talked about how he had tried in a paper to prove that the family is a form of “Christian government.” “You don’t have to prove that,” DeMar gently chided, and then added, with more heat: “That’s established—established by God!” DeMar’s lecture focused on the “three governments”—family, church, and state—all of which, he told me, should be ruled by God-fearing men. The Old Testament—with its 600 or so Mosaic laws—is the inflexible guide for the society DeMar and other Reconstructionists envision. Government posts would be reserved for the righteous, as long as they are male. There would be thousands of executions a year, with stoning a preferred method because it would turn the deaths into “community projects,” as movement theologian North has noted. Sinners in line for the death penalty would include women who commit adultery or lie about their virginity, blasphemers, witches, children who strike their parents, and gay men (lesbians, however, would be spared because no specific reference to them can be found in the Books of Moses). DeMar told me that among Reconstructionists he is considered something of a liberal, because he’d execute gays only if they were caught indulging in sodomy. “I’m happy to just drive them back into the closet,” he said. In introducing Moore at the Trinity Chapel rally, DeMar told the crowd that he supports a “jurisdictional separation of church and state.” But he was not mounting a defense of the First Amendment so much as outlining an organizational distinction. In his book Liberty at Risk, DeMar writes that “the State cannot be neutral towards the Christian faith. Any obstacle that would jeopardize the preaching of the Word of God…must be opposed by civil government.” Besides facilitating evangelism, Reconstructionists believe, government should largely be limited to building and maintaining roads, enforcing land-use contracts, and ensuring just weights and measures. Unions would not exist, and neither would unemployment benefits, Social Security, and environmental protection laws. Public schools would disappear; one of the movement’s great successes has been promoting homeschooling programs and publishing texts used by tens of thousands of homeschooling families. And, perhaps most importantly, the state is “God’s minister,” as DeMar puts it in Liberty at Risk, “taking vengeance out on those who do evil.” A major task for the government key Reconstructionists envision is fielding armies for conquest in the name of Jesus. Reconstruction’s premises may fly in the face of mainstream Christianity, and some of its leaders’ beliefs would probably surprise even the movement’s own foot soldiers. But what has made the theology such an explosive addition to public life is not its dogma on individual issues so much as its trumpet call to action. This is a faith in which religion is not an influence on politics; it is politics. FOR DECADES AFTER the 1925 Scopes monkey trial, Christian fundamentalists were almost invisible in civic discourse. Then, in 1981, a book by scholar Francis Schaeffer, A Christian Manifesto, heralded a counterattack. America, Schaeffer argued, was careening into the abyss of humanistic secularism. Christians needed to take bold action to restore biblical principles and erase divisions between religion and civic life. To ignite the movement, Schaeffer mapped out a battle campaign—a crusade against abortion, which, he said, “would be worth spending much of our lifetimes to fight against.” For years, the antiabortion movement had been mostly Catholic. Schaeffer understood that the cause had the potential to galvanize broad masses of Protestants. “Schaeffer made abortion an issue for Christians more than anyone else, and he commanded Christian soldiers to start marching,” says the University of Georgia’s Larson. Manifesto sold almost 250,000 copies the year after Ronald Reagan became president—a period when the nation was veering to the right after becoming exhausted from the social movements of the previous two decades. If Schaeffer was Reconstruction’s John the Baptist, Rushdoony was its pope. Born in 1916 to Armenian immigrants, Rushdoony graduated from the University of California-Berkeley before becoming an ardent foe of secular education and the author of a series of texts that redefined conservative theology. Rushdoony, who died in 2001, articulated a doctrine called “presuppositionalism.” All issues are religious in nature, he posited, and people don’t have the right or the ability to define for themselves what’s true; for that they must turn to a literal reading of the Bible. His defining tome, the 800-page Institutes of Biblical Law, was published in 1973. But because of its extremism and overt racism—Rushdoony denied the Holocaust and defended segregation and slavery—Institutes and its author were largely ignored in mainstream circles until the movement launched by Schaeffer found its intellectual grounding in Rushdoony’s writings. At the heart of Rushdoony’s argument were two biblical passages. Genesis 1:28 commands men to have “dominion” over “every living thing.” And in Matthew 28:18-20, the “Great Commission,” Jesus commands his followers to proselytize to the world. Thus was born dominion theology. (Not all dominionists are Reconstruction apostles—but the differences are a matter of theological finesse, and political strategies are largely indistinguishable.) Adam and Eve broke their covenant with God, and Satan seized dominion. Christian Reconstruction claims it has a reconstituted covenant with God and the right to a new dominion in his name. In this worldview, the mandate for Christians is not just to live right or to help their neighbors: They are called upon to take over or eliminate the institutions of secular government. This is what sets Reconstruction apart from the conventional Christian right and gives it a key advantage in organizing. Traditionally, groups like Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority were “premillennial”: They believed that humanity was inevitably headed for Armageddon, which would most likely arrive with a nuclear blast, whereupon Christ would appear in the Second Coming and set things right. “The debate was over whether Brezhnev was the Antichrist,” says the University of Georgia’s Larson. Reconstruction’s alternative was “postmillennialism”: Christ would not return until the church had claimed dominion over government, and most of the world’s population had accepted the Reconstruction brand of Christianity. The postmillennial twist offered hope to the pious that they could change things—as long as they got organized. (Reconstructionists angrily denounce end-times visions like those of Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series: If these are the Last Days, American Vision’s website points out, “then why bother trying to fix a broken world that is about to be thrown on the ash heap of history? Why concern ourselves with education, healthcare, the economy, or peace in the Mideast? Why polish brass on a sinking ship?”) For premillennialists, Reconstruction’s revolutionary philosophy offered an opportunity to turbocharge the religious right. Most conservative churches opposed abortion, for example, but Reconstruction-influenced groups such as Randall Terry’s Operation Rescue were willing to field soldiers and take the fight to the enemy. This not only emboldened activists, it gave Reconstructionists a chance to spread their organizing message: If you want to do God’s work, this needs to be God’s nation. Similarly, Baptist morality focused on personal choices, such as avoiding drinking. But Reconstructionists didn’t tell believers to shun sin. They said to conquer it, even if the price was jail or martyrdom. Paul Hill, the antiabortion activist executed two years ago for the 1994 murders of abortion clinic workers in Pensacola, Florida, had been a minister in the Reconstruction-dominated Presbyterian Church in America. The old left—the Communist Party and its many splinters—used organizing tactics called popular fronts, in which people were recruited through specific causes into a movement tacitly guided by the Party. Reconstruction has married those Leninist tactics to the causes of the right—abortion, evolution, gay marriage, school prayer. Gary North wrote in 1982, in an effort to reach Baptists,“We must use the doctrine of religious liberty…until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy constructing a Bible-based social, political, and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.” Nowhere at the Restore America rally did anyone hoist a banner for Reconstruction; those attending came to develop a united front supporting such things as displaying the Ten Commandments in public buildings. But they were also introduced—and recruited—to the broader program. Reconstruction’s major impact has been through helping to found and guide cross-denominational and secular political organ-izations. The Council for National Policy—a group that holds meetings for right-wing leaders, once dubbed “the most powerful conservative group you’ve never heard of”—was founded in 1981 as a project of top John Birch Society figures (see “The Fountainhead”). Its members included Rushdoony, Gary North, Tim LaHaye, former Reagan aide Gary Bauer, and activist Paul Weyrich, who famously aimed to “overturn the present power structure of this country.” Another group, the Coalition on Revival, brings together influential evangelicals to produce joint statements and theological white papers. North and DeMar are among the coalition’s most influential members; one of its founding documents is signed by 116 Christian right activists, including Rushdoony, mega-evangelist D. James Kennedy, and Roy Jones, a top staffer at the Republican Senatorial Committee. When I last saw Gary DeMar, he was shepherding Roy Moore through a crowd of true believers at the Restore America rally. As they walked by, I asked Moore, “Do you favor a theocracy?” The judge turned and looked at me, shook his head, frowned, and walked away. But DeMar, in our interview, had already answered the question. “All governments are theocracies,” he said. “We now live in a secular humanist theocracy. I want to change that to a government with God at its head.” John Sugg is senior editor for the Creative Loafing group of alternative newsweeklies. Before joining Tampa's Weekly Planet in 1995, he wrote and edited for the Miami Herald, Atlanta Constitution, Palm Beach Post, and American Lawyer. He is at work on a book on the history of the antievolution movement in Georgia.
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#1. To: All (#0)
as I understand the dominion christians, they want to use government as an instrument of god. and they want to use US military power as god's tool. and they are the judges it seems. these dominion christians are numerous in the ranks of military chaplains today. in Iraq dominion christian chaplains patrol with the soldiers and before they go out on patrol they stand around and hold hands and during their prayers they say 'lets go kill Iraqis for jesus' just like in a football pre-game pep talk by the coach. I may misunderstand the dominion christians, but from my understanding I really don't like them. Don't they know that man doesn't produce much that's good including the government. to me they're awful, the dominion christians.
Wish it was true ... secular humanist theocracy --- ain't so bad ! Wake up America - sleeping beauty ! We have been buried by an ... atheist communist fascist cult --- satanic conspiracy ! We have been buried by an ... atheist communist fascist cult --- satanic conspiracy ! webmaster@freerepublic.com top enemies of the republic ... aclu naacLp * freepers * un nea cults
I cant disagree with you re FR being a cult.. hey they're supporting the right party.. the party of the marxist neocons.
How about evangelical christians ... believe in pluralistic society - SECULAR limited govt - separation of state from religion - ideology - cults --- one that allows free speech - Liberty not an establishment of a psuedo science de facto religion monopoly excluding all others at it is presently practiced by evo atheist nazis !!
Marxist - hayforkers are ... social engineers - protectionists - working class socialist --- psuedo intellectual elites !
Statist thugs - bullies - dupes ! The Atheist - statist freeks ignorantly think they got their computers - cars - cell phones from evolution - govt ... they owe their livelihood - allegiance to it --- they know nothing about human intelligence - FREEDOM - God - creation - design obviously even hate - despise them ! The grass root FR money rxxjxx is using to ... promote liberal weeds - poison - monsters --- eradicate conservatism ! Years ago good republicans were going to close down the federal education monopoly - establishment ... freepers have colonized --- are now franchising it !
Odin told me to skin you alive, alkie.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
True.. Sounds like a description of the Republican party ..Oh that's right FR is a reflection of what the R's are like.. a microcosm. Hey so is LP.. COME TO THE LIGHT ..
Architecture d arc ... going to run the french out of america --- burn - bull doze their ivory towers to the ground !
The FRENCH? WTF?
lodwick is not going to be happy, it looks like byeltsin or his evil twin is back.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Hey I like byeltsin for some odd reason.. like playing anagrams!
I do agree with this statement above. People develop idols that they believe in. this is true of people who belong to a religious group and people who do not belong to a religious group. This is true in politics in professions in every walk of life in fact. real christians believe that idols are for destruction. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0891077383/104-4941368-8036707
looks deep
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. You mean the Christian kind ... the kind that went around the world enslaving nations from Africa and South America and Indonesia. You mean the fathers of seduction raping and pillaging the world for profits? Or the make-believe theocracy that is in your mind like Spanish Inquisition ... you dumb-fuck?
LIVE FREE OR whine ! ... liberals stealth freep liberal flame across my scope - gun --- pow pow pow pow pow ! WORK - LIVE FREE - FIGHT - sacrifice - OR keep trying - KILL ! ... conservatism !
When fChristian refers to the French its a smack at Kerry.
Lord .. I thought that was so over?
Theocracy means a God - creator ... sorta generic --- don't even like authority - any !
liberal...kook, melvins hater!
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
stealth freep liberal flame across my scope - gun --- pow pow pow pow pow ! WORK - LIVE FREE - FIGHT - sacrifice - OR keep trying - KILL ! ... conservatism ! Well it seems I've gotten to the point that I have more in common with 'liberals' (I dont mean the leadership.).. these days than the crazies.. that is the neocon rightwingers.. ..
yes, it is a very deep book. I read it many years ago. it is like 1500 pages long. Each chapter is like a book in its own. It is very deep. the guy is an intellectual and a half. it is very christian and he really de-constructs the idols of our age. I think it came out in the 1970's. he takes on the idols of the religious world, the political world, the media, business, the intellectuals, etc. I lent this book to a guy who never returned it, but he told me it was the best book he ever read. the dominion christians, they will build their own idols. and they will be immune to thinking that they could be wrong. They'll have no humility. they'll do evil and justify it with their idols. Always remember one simple rule - man cannot be trusted. That is why our founding fathers knew that government had to be limited in its powers. The dominion christians are dangerous. They can be compared to zionists. and they love israel too.
Hm haiku again like we did last summer?
stealth freep liberal flame across my scope - gun --- pow pow pow pow pow ! WORK - LIVE FREE - FIGHT - sacrifice - OR keep trying - KILL ! ... conservatism ! Thank you for clearing that up.
IMPEACH MONKEYBOY!
apple slices add moisture to low grade buds all are so happy
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
laughing...
Ha! Maybe he didn't just forget. They'll have no humility. they'll do evil and justify it with their idols. The torture evil I simply can't make any sense of. What's the point? Their minds must be so twisted.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. more tremendous wisdom from the book of Dak. but to each his own - I like mine dry; easier - cleaner burning. It's written in the book of Red, chapter 3 verse 9. I also like the book of Dylan, chapter 1 verse 1 - 'everybody must get ... '
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
How?
exactly, they justify torture. and that is insane. They support giving little babies those shots that result in autism. They love depleted uranium. and they support all this thinking it is a holy cause. It goes back to the simple statement that we should be thinking about the paradigm of good vs bad and not all these idols we have like 'liberal' and 'conservative'. and it's reached the point that we can't discuss things with the dominion christian types. You tell them about DU and they think you are anti-american and a liar. because they have turned their tv and mainstream media and fox news etc into an idol. and they won't listen to other sources. the idol worshiping has gotten out of hand. People really do need to worship god and to know the true spirit that is god. Otherwise destruction awaits.
Nope ... some of these folks live and breathe elections based upon FOXNEWS. Its an ongoing dilemma for them.
How? How about knock offs - irregulars ... 2nd hand --- inherited ! Ever hear of born - again ?
You are born again? Is this your claim to fame or the scarlet letter of deceit you live behind?
In the area of ... words - ideas - action I'm more than up to the challenge --- so help me God ! don't say I didn't warn you !
So answer my questions as opposed to drifting off the keyboard.
What's yours ... rubbish picker --- garbage collector !
Are you sure you are up to this? Did you take notice that you have not answered my simple questions yet, here you are asking all sorts of invectives about my job? C'mon, I know you are up to it. Answer my earlier questions.
In the area of ... words - ideas - action - DESIGN - PLANS I'm more than up to the challenge --- so help me God ! For me to know - you to find - knocked out !
If you know so much about God's plans why don't you share a little bit of the knowledge and your brothers and sisters out? You constantly complain about JR of FR and GL of LP about limiting your concepts. Well, here you are on F4UM to create the perfect capability. And yet I sense you are reticent to help us. Why? Is this all a deep secret?
I am modifying my opin of you. You aren't up to anything. As a result, I have determined you lied to me fChristian, as always. Just like your backing of GWBush, another Goddamned liar.
#2. To: Red Jones (#0)
“All governments are theocracies,” he said. “We now live in a secular humanist theocracy. I want to change that to a government with God at its head.”
#3. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#2)
communist fascist cult
#4. To: Red Jones (#1)
the dominion christians.
#5. To: Zipporah (#3)
the party of the marxist neocons.
#6. To: Zipporah (#3)
#7. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#6)
#8. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#6)
Statist thugs - bullies - dupes !
#9. To: Dakmar (#7)
#10. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#9)
going to run the french out of america -
#11. To: Zipporah, lodwick (#10)
~James Madison
#12. To: robin (#11)
lodwick is not going to be happy, it looks like byeltsin or his evil twin is back.
#13. To: All (#0)
“All governments are theocracies,” he said. “We now live in a secular humanist theocracy.
#14. To: Red Jones (#13)
"He who marries the spirit of an age, soon finds himself a widower."
~James Madison
#15. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#2)
Wish it was true ... secular humanist theocracy --- ain't so bad !
#16. To: Zipporah (#10)
#17. To: Zipporah (#10)
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
When fChristian refers to the French its a smack at Kerry.
#19. To: buckeroo (#15)
you dumb-fuck?
#20. To: Zipporah (#18)
#21. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#16)
LIVE FREE OR whine ! ... liberals
#22. To: robin (#14)
looks deep
#23. To: Dakmar (#20)
iberal...kook, melvins hater!
#24. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#16)
LIVE FREE OR whine ! ... liberals
#25. To: Zipporah (#23)
#26. To: wbales (#24)
Thank you for clearing that up.
#27. To: Red Jones (#22)
I lent this book to a guy who never returned it, but he told me it was the best book he ever read.
~James Madison
#28. To: Dakmar (#25)
#29. To: Zipporah (#23)
CD player done gone into the Neil Young stuff: :)
#30. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#19)
Theocracy means a God - creator ... sorta generic --- don't even like authority - any !
#31. To: robin (#27)
#32. To: Zipporah (#18)
Lord .. I thought that was so over?
#33. To: buckeroo (#30)
sorta generic
#34. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#33)
#35. To: buckeroo (#34)
deceit you live behind?
#36. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#35)
#37. To: buckeroo (#34)
claim to fame
#38. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#37)
#39. To: buckeroo (#38)
#40. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#39)
For me to know - you to find
#41. To: Architecture - 3000 ! (#39)
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