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Title: World War III - Who Will Be Blamed?
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URL Source: http://stormcloudsgathering.com/ww3-who-will-be-blamed
Published: Sep 12, 2015
Author: StormCloudsGathering
Post Date: 2015-09-12 10:10:03 by christine
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Views: 722
Comments: 23

World War III - Who Will Be Blamed? [Sources & Transcript] 11.Sep.2015 | SCGSCG If you want to start a to war, the unwashed masses must be convinced to send their brothers, sons and fathers to die on the front lines. The specter of an external enemy must be etched into their collective mind through trauma, exaggeration and repetition. History must be whitewashed, twisted and cherry picked down to a politicized nursery rhyme. At no point should the real motives or consequences of such an endeavor be discussed.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

As always, it will be some patsy ffop that launches the debacle.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-12   10:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

For a mental consideration, we should address the opposite view of the future by accepting the desired interest of this video.

The US to bring all military home, declare neutrality in all foreign affairs, destroy all nuclear weapons, what would be the world situation with the major political/military antagonist no longer on the world scene??????

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-12   11:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

"Who will be blamed" The loser

Darkwing  posted on  2015-09-12   13:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

I'd like to see. Since WW2 there have been 248 armed conflicts on earth and the US has started 201 of them.

christine  posted on  2015-09-12   23:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine, 4 (#0)

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-09-13   6:37:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Guys our age that were duped into the Vietnam debacle were just as ignorant as the young men being maimed and killed today in the middle-east. Most of the youth being snared into war around the globe are simply trying to earn a living, and many of them are earning death.

The real enemy is the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK GOVERNMENT. Owned and operated by foreign interests that have every intention of destroying what was an experiment in freedom and individual rights. The bankers and their toadies will kill people all around the globe in order to achieve their goal of an international dictatorship.

Being forced to accept ideals (as demon-strated in the picture you posted) that are diametrically in opposition to our own beliefs and ideals at the point of a gun or threat of incarceration by the most criminal government on earth is a diabolic tyranny that is encountering very little resistance.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-09-13   8:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

Most of the youth being snared into war around the globe are simply trying to earn a living, and many of them are earning death.

Truth.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-09-13   10:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222, Jethro Tull (#6)

Guys our age that were duped into the Vietnam debacle were just as ignorant as the young men being maimed and killed today in the middle-east. Most of the youth being snared into war around the globe are simply trying to earn a living, and many of them are earning death.

Having been down that road, somehow to me "duped" is not an exact, fitting characterization of the past.

Those of us at the bottom of the social ladder had a very realistic view of our future in life.

Fear, abject fear, took us to war most of my life. Witnessing boys dragged from their homes in handcuffs because they refused to go, never leaves ones mind. I can still see it today. Fear we all experienced.

Along came Korea and I saw dozens of kids in leg irons, chains and handcuffs, being flown to Korea and certain death. Their crime, they did not want to die.

The Vietnam debacle brought us to "hiring" people to kill for us rather than using fear. The upper classes were all for that as they knew full well it would be those at the bottom, that would do all the dying.

Now the pendulum is swinging back to a draft. The government realizes it has not the money to "hire" the poor anymore. They will go back to dragging the poor off once again, the upper classes will approve.

Fear will once again replace "hire" or "duped".

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   10:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#2)

The US to bring all military home, declare neutrality in all foreign affairs, destroy all nuclear weapons, what would be the world situation with the major political/military antagonist no longer on the world scene??????

Perhaps it would be a good start if our intelligence spooks quit sticking their noses into the domestic affairs of friends a foe alike, ever stirring up hornets' nests that require the "duped" and the "hired" to suit up and trade bullets with the worst that the third world has to offer.

Perhaps it is not necessary to retire from the world stage entirely. It might suffice if we stopped acting like idiots.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-09-13   11:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#9)

Perhaps it is not necessary to retire from the world stage entirely

Consider if we did....

Russia would then extend from the English Channel to Alaska.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   11:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Russia would then extend from the English Channel to Alaska.

Why would she consider such lunacy, and how could it be achieved if she did?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-13   12:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#10)

Russia would then extend from the English Channel to Alaska.

Should Russia ever telegraph a punch of such dimensions, lots of Polish, German and French boys would suddenly discover common cause. Even Ivan would balk before walking into that buzz saw.

While Russia may feel losses on the Baltic coast keenly and may have some claims on its southwest frontier, I don't see wholesale Euro-conquest on Russia's agenda.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-09-13   12:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod, randge (#11)

In Soviet archives are the pre WWII plans for the Russian push to the Channel. From within and by force. The rise of Hitler thwarted those plans.

The Soviets had the worlds largest paratroop army in the world, over a million men.

Other than Germany, Western Europe will not fight, they never have. That was proven in two world wars. It took Americans to save them, twice.

Putin has boasted he could be in ten western capitols within a week...SADLY THAT IS TRUE...

Had the US withdrawn from Europe in 1945, Russia would have been on the Channel in a week.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   13:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Putin has boasted he could be in ten western capitols within a week...

Let's keep our feet on the ground, shall we?

'If I wanted, Russian troops could not only be in Kiev in two days, but in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw or Bucharest, too,' Putin was quoted as threatening, according to Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko. - teapartyorg.ning.com/foru...-troops-could-be-in-five- nato-capitals-in-two-days

Its not beyond the pale for Putin to try to bull Porky in this manner, but I take whatever these Ukranian putschists say with a grain of salt.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-09-13   13:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#14)

Let's keep our feet on the ground, shall we?

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Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   13:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, randge, 4 (#13)

Everyone war games; we have games for everywhere from Canada to all of latin America, to shooting down our own planes and blaming everyone from Cuba to everyone in the ME, and the rest of the known world.

That's why they're called war games. Usually, cooler, more sane minds prevail.

But not always, see PNAC and 911.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-13   14:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

?

If we're gonna quote or paraphrase someone, let's aim for a minimum of accuracy.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-09-13   14:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#17)

Any particular paraphrase?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   14:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#16)

That's why they're called war games.

War games and war plans are of no similarity.

Having experience in both, I really do understand quite well what both constitute.

Stalins "war plans" from Soviet archives are readily available on the internet.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-09-13   14:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222 (#6)

by the most criminal government on earth is a diabolic tyranny that is encountering very little resistance.

^^that^^

not just from the american people, but most perplexing to me, countries the world over.

christine  posted on  2015-09-13   14:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom, 4 (#19)

I don't see the difference. They're both just the dreams of olde, fat, generals sitting around a map drinking too much vodka and playing what-if with their pins and marks-a-lots.

Until a plan or a game is enacted, it's nothing.

In 2015, it would be impossible to enact plans of 60 years ago, sweeping across Europe completely un-noticed and un-hindered, un-opposed, and not blown to smithereens from the sky with today's technology.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-13   15:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Darkwing (#3)

"Who will be blamed" The loser

Of course.

DWornock  posted on  2015-09-13   19:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#1) (Edited)

As always, it will be some patsy ffop that launches the debacle.

Pre-staged ffop scripting, possibly:

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Detailed floor plans of the tower were posted on the New York City's Department of Finance website in May 2011, resulting in an uproar from the media and citizens of the surrounding area, who warned that the plans could potentially be used for a future terrorist attack.[86]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-09-17   12:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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