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Title: Two people just played 20 questions by reading each other’s thoughts
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URL Source: http://www.sciencealert.com/two-hum ... -the-other-person-is-thinking/
Published: Sep 24, 2015
Author: FIONA MACDONALD
Post Date: 2015-09-24 02:05:20 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 325
Comments: 29

ScienceAlert...

Scientists in the US have linked up the brains of participants almost 1.5 km apart, allowing them to play a 20 questions-style game using nothing but their thoughts.

This is the first experiment to demonstrate that two brains can be linked up directly to allow one person to accurately guess what's on the other's mind, and it's a pretty huge deal.

The experiment involved a question-and-answer game, but instead of asking each other questions in person, the participants were put in separate buildings and were not allowed to talk to each other or communicate using anything but thoughts transmitted over the Internet.

Using this system, participants were able to correctly guess the object that their partner was thinking of 72 percent of the time.

"This is the most complex brain-to-brain experiment, I think, that's been done to date in humans," lead researcher Andrea Stocco from the University of Washington said in a press release. "It uses conscious experiences through signals that are experienced visually, and it requires two people to collaborate."

During the experiment, one participant - "the respondent" - was hooked up to an electroencephalography (EEG) cap, which recorded all their brain activity. Meanwhile, their partner - "the inquirer" - was sitting in a room around 1.5 km away, and had a magnetic coil positioned around their head.

Each round, the respondent would think of an object, say a dog, and the inquirer would then click on a yes or no question like, "Is the object an animal?" which would appear on a screen in front of their partner. Depending on the answer, the respondent would concentrate on one of two LED lights in front of them.

And this is where things get really cool. When the respondent concentrated on the "yes" light, their brain pattern activated the magnetic coil over the inquirer's head, causing them to see a visual hallucination called a 'phosphene'. This most commonly takes the form of a flash or a thin line of light, and it would let the inquirer know that the answer was yes. No flash of light meant no. From there, they could ask more questions before identifying what they thought the item was.

The researchers repeated the experiment over 20 rounds - 10 control games where the brain-to-brain link wasn't working and 10 proper rounds - and took strict precautions to make sure no one could cheat.

The participants were able to guess the objects correctly in 72 percent of the real rounds, compared to only 18 percent of the control rounds. And the team believes many of those incorrect guesses were caused by the inquirers not being able to recognise the phosphene, or visual hallucination, that signalled a 'yes' response.

"They have to interpret something they're seeing with their brains," said one of the researchers, Chantel Prat. "It's not something they've ever seen before."

The team hopes that their research will one day allow them to directly transfer signals from one person's brain into another, helping to effectively 'upload' knowledge.

It could even allow healthy brains to 'tutor' ones that are impaired - for example, the technology could transfer signals from a healthy person's brain directly into the brain of someone in a coma, or someone with a neurodegenerative disorder such as Alzheimer's disease.

"Imagine having someone with ADHD and a neurotypical student," said Prat. "When the non-ADHD student is paying attention, the ADHD student's brain gets put into a state of greater attention automatically."

There's a long way to go before we're at that stage, but in the two years since the first direct brain-to-brain connection was established - by the same research team, incidentally, back in 2013 - we've already made some pretty exciting progress. We're looking forward to seeing what happens next.

The results have been published in PLOS ONE.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Mamma mia, I wish they'd stop this.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-24   4:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

It's really nothing new. Probably was the usual form of communication among primitives, preschoolers can do it, dogs, witches, Most of us lose it after shifting to prefrontal cortex.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-09-25   1:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#2)

What are you basing all that on? Sounds like literal fairy tales.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-25   5:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Mind control is not necessary to read other people's thoughts. Some people already have that ability. I can pick up on the thoughts of people I work with pretty much most of the time and it is why I avoid them. You have to be extremely sensitive to the point of being hyper sensitive to be able to have such an ability. Few of us have this innate gift.

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-25   14:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

What are you basing all that on?

Experience, inference.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-09-25   23:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tatarewicz (#5)

You've witnessed telepathy among primitives, preschoolers, dogs or witches?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-26   1:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NeoconsNailed (#6)

Primitives (our ancestors), witches} inferred; preschoolers, dogs: yes.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-09-26   22:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tatarewicz (#7)

Please go on.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-27   2:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

It's referred to as natural communication.

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-27   14:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: purplerose (#9)

How were you able to determine the preschoolers and dogs were communicating naturally?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-27   19:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

Children and animals have one thing in common: they are pure in spirit until they are programmed by adults how to act, think and talk. Animals are naturally capable of using natural communication as it is part of their psychic ability. Children are also born with this ability as they are "Pure" in spirit until they become socialized by their parents and the educational process on thinking logical and practical and in communications.

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-27   19:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: purplerose (#11)

Sheer poetry, but obviously an answer in the negative.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-27   19:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

There is nothing poetic about my answer. The only people "negative" are those who choose to disbelieve in this because all of us are born with this ability while some of us actually use it. Why do you think the CIA wants those kind of people with those abilities in the first place? They use them for psychic warfare on our enemies which is something that I want nothing to do with whatsoever.

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-27   20:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: purplerose (#13)

Correct, the CIA, et al, actively seek out those with any psychic abilities for their uses.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-27   21:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: purplerose, NeoconsNailed (#9)

It's referred to as natural communication.

How were you able to determine the preschoolers and dogs were communicating naturally?

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-27   22:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: StraitGate (#15)

How were you able to determine the preschoolers and dogs were communicating naturally?

Kids, because they're not yet contaminated.

Dogs, and other animals, because they cannot be contaminated, imo

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-27   22:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod, NeoconsNailed (#16)

Kids, because they're not yet contaminated.

Dogs, and other animals, because...

"Because" might answer why (if I knew what you were talking about).

But NN and I have asked how, not why.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-27   22:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod, StraitGate (#16)

Your response said it best!

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-27   22:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: purplerose (#18)

You still haven't explained HOW you were you able to determine that the preschoolers and dogs were communicating naturally.

May we know?

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-27   23:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: StraitGate (#19)

May we know?

By observation. If you haven't seen it you never will.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-27   23:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Two people just played 20 questions by reading each other’s thoughts

They did NOT read each other's thoughts. The communication was unidirectional. The only "reading of thoughts" that took place was by means of an electroencephalography (EEG) cap to monitor brain activity on the "sender" who was concentrating on one of two LEDs that were flashing at different rates, and the readings were analyzed and reduced to a simple binary (yes or no) result. The result was transmitted via the internet (though it might just as well have been by telephone; the 1.5 km separation is a trivial figure), and a transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) coil was used to modulate neural activity in the "receiver". All the receiver had to do was detect the presence or absence of the magnetic pulses -- the pulses per se did not convey any meaningful information such as images or thoughts.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-28   1:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#20) (Edited)

By observation. If you haven't seen it you never will.

WHAT observation, for instance. And why won't I ever see it if I've never seen it -- because I'm unworthy for questioning it?

Only specific instances will do. "My dog Rover was taught to run a difficult maze. When he got home, he had what appeared to be a silent conversation with my dog Cindy. She was the next test case, and she ran it correctly on the first try. Then the same thing next happened with my dog Fido."

Or "We taught my preschooler Susie to tie her shoes. The next day our toddler Joey, who has never seen someone tie their shoes, suddenly did it."

I'm not being facetious. If it's a matter of belief, that's one thing. If of observation, that's something else entirely.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-28   2:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: StraitGate (#19)

I really don't need to explain something that is already given. And yes, children and animals do have that ability to communicate. It is why they tend to shun adults because in the adult sense such forms of communication are non-existence and instead delusional thinking. But some of us know way better than that. :)

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-28   14:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: purplerose (#23)

I really don't need to explain something that is already given.

OK, I note your unwillingness to explain how you were able to determine that the preschoolers and dogs were communicating "naturally". But frankly, your being unwilling to explain how you came to that determination makes me suspect that you are UNABLE to explain how.

If the how had been to me "already given", I would not have asked.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-28   22:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: StraitGate (#24)

operationmeditation.com/d...telepathic-communication/

purplerose  posted on  2015-09-29   12:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: purplerose (#25)

Thanks.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-09-30   22:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

C2C: Sunday - October 4, Host: George Noory Guests: Dr. Carol Osborne

In the first half, George Noory welcomed integrative veterinarian Dr. Carol Osborne, who is a pioneer in anti-aging medicine and longevity research for pets. She discussed "the sixth sense" of pets, which she believes is responsible for a lot of the paranormal and psychic activities they are able to detect. This sixth sense, she suggested, may allow pets to "perceive the electromagnetic fields and the barometric changes in the Earth's atmosphere," and explain why animals have an instinctive knowledge to move to higher ground when a tsunami is imminent.

Dogs have an incredible sense of smell that is 10,000 times greater than humans, and are currently being trained to detect diseases such as early stage cancer which gives off a slight scent. Regarding pets' abilities to find their way home after being gone for years, they might have a psychic connection with their owners, as well as iron oxide crystals in their brains that align with the Earth's poles, kind of like a magnet, she reported. Osborne also detailed cases where dogs and cats seem to be reacting to unseen entities or energies, as well as owner's reports of visitations from deceased pets, such as when they feel something swish by their leg, or nuzzle against them.

feel something swish by their leg

Could be just a randomly activated memory of a swish when the pet was alive.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-10-06   6:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tatarewicz (#27)

Lovely but it still doesn't help your #2.

Animal intelligence clearly rivals humans' in many specific instances. #1, none of them need any sex education -- a great mystery. #2, the stuff you mention, plus the way they swarm choreographically in the air or sea. Some truly wondrous cases:

http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2015/10/the-vast-journey-of-the-fourth- generation/

Those bugs don't even need to communicate telephathically -- they're born knowing where to go, even if 4k miles away. We've all heard of animals who sense when an earthquake is coming, act exactly as if they're seeing a ghost etc. which is a great mystery and probably will remain so for the rest of time.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-06   9:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: NeoconsNailed (#28)

animals who sense when an earthquake is coming

Animals which were able to sense vibrations and/or smell pre-earthquake gases and took off survived and predominate today. There may even be a field effect associated with earthquakes.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-10-06   22:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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