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Title: Why the Holocaust Could Not Have Happened
Source: Badlands
URL Source: http://littlegeneva.com/badlands/?p=1139
Published: Jan 23, 2006
Author: Badlands
Post Date: 2006-01-23 19:35:51 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: Holocaust, Happened, Could
Views: 1308
Comments: 189

Having read emotional letters from Jewish writers in the press, I feel compelled to comment myself.

I am acquainted with military history and have read substantially on the subject. One Jewish writer stated that he was not even alive at the time of the Second World War. As another writer stated, there are always two sides to the coin. Well, I was not alive at that time either, so it follows that the only source of information available to the post-war generations is history as it was written down for us.

History has not and never will be recorded objectively, as every historian writes according to his own subjective view and in his own book will try to prove his own thesis. The mass-murder of six million Jews, however, is a myth. This is admitted and proved primarily by British and American authors, and while withholding my own views, here is some information to consider:

According to evidence led in a paper entitled “The Third Reich”, three to four million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz alone. This is mathematically impossible. Auschwitz was in operation for four years. Let’s assume only three million people were killed here — in one year, that would be 750,000 or 62,500 a month — or 2,083 a day!

According to the German Christian Democratic delegate, Eric Blumenfeld of Hamburg, who was incarcerated at Auschwitz, killings only took place at night, for reasons of secrecy — a period of 12 hours. Thus, 2,082 people should have been killed every 12 hours out of 24 for 1,460 days (four years).

Assuming the corpses were buried, and seeing that sand is four tenths heavier than the human body (proportionately), at an average of 50 kilograms per body, 70 kilograms of sand would be displaced per corpse [a kilogram is equal to 2.2 pounds for practical purposes]. At 2,083 bodies a day, with a corpse mass of 104.2 metric tons, this would be 145.8 metric tons of soil to be removed daily!

In four years, assuming there were “only” 3 million bodies buried, this would leave 212,868 metric tons of soil piled up somewhere. Where is it? There is also the argument that the bodies were burned (also a mathematical impossibility). The calculations are based on figures and evidence from the ultra-modern and efficient crematorium at Dortmund in Germany. To burn one corpse completely requires 31 kilograms of coal. The 2,083 people allegedly killed in Auschwitz daily would have required more than 65 metric tons of coal, which was extremely valuable to the war effort — each day. For Germany, this was impossible.

Burning the bodies was impossible for another reason. In the most modern crematoriums today, one body requires about 2? hours to be completely cremated. Even if Auschwitz had had 100 burning chambers, the 3 million corpses would have taken 15 years to cremate, burning only in the 12-hour period each day.

Each body produces on average 2 kilograms of ash. Three million corpses would create 6,000 metric tons of ash. This ash, all 6,000 metric tons of it would make quite a heap. Where were all these ash-heaps after the war?

In closing, I would like to add that all recorded history is on paper and on paper you can write anything, even that 6 million Jews were killed. Paper is patient!

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#95. To: A K A Stone (#65)

There is nothing in the world wrong with wanting to reclaim your homeland.

How is it the so-called "Jews" homeland? What right do they have to it? Do you really think a God who won;t even hear the prayer of those that reject his Son Jesus Christ would be on the side of such people in any way shape or form? Israel was established again in 1948 by the devil himself, God had nothing to do with it. God did promise that land to Abraham's seed. Only problem is that the so called "Jews" of today and many other people never have figured out that Abraham's seed is composed of those that worship God in truth and spirit and have unwavering faith that Jesus is the Son of God, and that we are saved through his sacrifice on Calvary and live for him with all of their heart. Those people are the true Jews, those people are the real children of God and the real rightful and eventual owners of the state of Israel. Yes, Christians will rule Israel and so-called "Jews" will not be welcome in way shape or form.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-24   22:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: RickyJ (#92)

IMO people aren't born as "Jews" they become one when the reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Jesus himself called them devils, vipers, serpents. He proclaimed how extremely unlikely that they would be able to escape the eternal damnation of hell given their current condition and the prospects that they would change. "Jews" are the enemies of Christ. Any Christian that embraces the demonic state of Israel, is a Christian in name only, just like the "Jews" of today are Jews in name only.

Do you realize how idiotic you sound?

Christ was the KING OF THE JEWS... born a Jew and died a Jew... Like it or not, so was Mary & Joseph... LOL... If you actually believe your bible, you'd know that Jesus was the messiah born to fulfill the prophesy of the JEWS... and guess what RJ? If it wasn't for the Jews demanding the Jesus be put to death, there'd be NO CHRISTIANITY, NO SALVATION... Know why? BECAUSE IT WAS ALL PROPHESY...ALL PLANNED IN ADVANCE... Jesus had to die on the cross as a sacrifice to win forgiveness for all the damned sinners in the world... dead ones, live ones, and ones yet unborn... or did you not get that part about it being necessary for him to die at the hands of his fellow Jews? Jesus NEVER called "the Jews devils, vipers, and serpents"... He called certain individuals that, NOT THE JEWS as a group.

BTW, I suppose that I should clue you that I don't accept Jesus as "my Lord & Savior"... I'm an agnostic (not a Jew as you seem to think anyone who doesn't accept Jesus is)... Fact is, I USED to be a believer, a B.A.C., till I wised up and realized that the bible is a fallible historical document, a great set of guidelines to live by, and the world's best loved FAIRY TALE... Realistically, it can't possibly be true... the contradictions... the mistakes... the absurdities... and you dare to cast doubts on events in modern history that can be verified? I'm totally amused by that contradiction in you... but disgusted by your twisted hatred.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: RickyJ (#94)

It's only a very pitiful people that owe their positions in life to such deceitfulness. I'll give them credit for being good liars though; in that area they are experts.

You give CREDIT to good liars? Why am I not surprised...?

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: RickyJ (#95)

How is it the so-called "Jews" homeland? What right do they have to it? Do you really think a God who won;t even hear the prayer of those that reject his Son Jesus Christ would be on the side of such people in any way shape or form? Israel was established again in 1948 by the devil himself, God had nothing to do with it. God did promise that land to Abraham's seed. Only problem is that the so called "Jews" of today and many other people never have figured out that Abraham's seed is composed of those that worship God in truth and spirit and have unwavering faith that Jesus is the Son of God, and that we are saved through his sacrifice on Calvary and live for him with all of their heart. Those people are the true Jews, those people are the real children of God and the real rightful and eventual owners of the state of Israel. Yes, Christians will rule Israel and so-called "Jews" will not be welcome in way shape or form.

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: siagiah, red jones (#98)

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

Not any off balance that the zionists, from what I can tell. GEEZ this religon thinggy.

I like Red Jones outlook " I would rather break bread with a humble God fearing Muslim, than a Tammy Fay" Mis- quoted by tom007.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   0:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: tom007 (#99)

I like Red Jones outlook " I would rather break bread with a humble God fearing Muslim, than a Tammy Fay" Mis- quoted by tom007.

And I as well.

All fanatics, whatever stripe they wear, are dangerously unstable because they focus all their being onto one area and can't handle it if something forces them to question their belief. They must destroy the messenger that causes this discomfort. It doesn't matter what ideology or cause they are embracing: good, bad, or ugly... their fanatical focus on it is what defines them and what determines their direction. Amazingly enough, the profound hatred I see in RELIGIOUS fanatics exceeds that of any other stripe~!!

If Jesus were to walk among us today, MOST of his followers would reject him for not being a "true Christian"... Sad, but true. It is THEY who are clueless but ya just can't tell 'em anything because they believe they know Jesus in their hearts. Sadly, if there's a devil in this world, it's most likely the devil they are embracing. Jesus NEVER advocated the hatred justified in his name.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: siagiah, RickyJ, Tom007 (#98)

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

siagiah, it is your perogative to speak agains the bible if you want. But I feel I should tell you that this is what you are doing. RickyJ is only expressing the standard view of the bible. Right in the old testament (jewish part of the bible) it says that the seed of abraham is those who believe and not those who are the biological seed. and it says expressly that the blessings bestowed on the jews are for those who are the believers, not the biologcial seed. I would not say that all jews reject god, but many do. if you do an opinion survey among the israelis, they will tell you this themselves. in matthew jesus told some jewish clerics directly that his father would take away their blessing and give it to a nation that brings forth the fruits of god. in revelation in john's vision jesus did say that in the season of the end there would be many who claim to be jew, but are really with synagogue of satan.

I was just thinking today how ironic it is that jesus was born in bethlehem which is part of modern-day palestine. all evidence is that jesus was racially and ethnically just like the palestinians of today. and look how many of the jews have chosen to specifically hate that group of people.

It is your choice siagiah to be a scoffer and a denier. but you should know that it is your choice and what choice you're making.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-01-25   9:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Red Jones. Tom007, RickyJ (#101)

Right on, Red:

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-25   10:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Zoroaster (#102)

To: Red Jones. Tom007, RickyJ

Right on, Red:

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

I hope you aren't suggesting that I fit your aforementioned profile. I did not "call" anyone anything, most particularly not any of the "epithets" you listed. I simply stated my professional opinion about a person whose on line statements indicate a fanatical personality full of hate for their fellow man. That kind of problem requires professional help lest he become consumed in his own hatred! Suggesting that those who disagree with your fantasies are agtiprop disrupters is a wee bit over the top and bordering on pretentious... ROFLMAO... So get over yourself already...

None of you can deny your HATRED for the Jews... and regardless of where a body stands on the subject of "god"... I believe we can ALL AGREE that Jesus did not stand for HATRED... but then, most of his "followers" believe otherwise...

PSSST, the old testament was fulfilled when Jesus died on the cross. The old testament is no longer valid or binding... or didn't you know???? LOL

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: siagiah (#103)

PSSST, the old testament was fulfilled when Jesus died on the cross. The old testament is no longer valid or binding... or didn't you know???? LOL

Matt. 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I agree with much of what you said. Just not that part. :)

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Zoroaster (#102)

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

Kind of how you throw zionist around all the time.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#104)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The fulfillment referenced here is CHRIST'S DEATH ON THE CROSS... that was the fullfullment of the old testament. Elsewhere he states that the ten commandments were written to show man that he could NOT reach heaven on good deeds alone because it is humanly impossible never to break them. Therefore, he paid the price for one and all and laid done his only law: love one another as I have loved you.

You may all believe that I am not acquainted with the bible... au contraire... I studied the bible for many years and was a B.A.C. just like you... What changed? A bite from the tree of knowledge and as they say, you cannot unring a bell... I cannot go back to blissful innocence... But that doesn't mean I have forgotten the things I read and knew.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: siagiah (#106)

The fulfillment referenced here is CHRIST'S DEATH ON THE CROSS... that was the fullfullment of the old testament. Elsewhere he states that the ten commandments were written to show man that he could NOT reach heaven on good deeds alone because it is humanly impossible never to break them. Therefore, he paid the price for one and all and laid done his only law: love one another as I have loved you.

I agree!! Here's the exact verse.. there were two actually:

Matt 22: 37And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'

38"This is the great and foremost commandment.

39"The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

40"On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: siagiah (#106)

Till heaven and earth pass

They haven't passeed.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: siagiah (#106)

You may all believe that I am not acquainted with the bible...

I noticed you know about the bible. You just don't accept it.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   11:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: A K A Stone (#108)

Till heaven and earth pass

They haven't passeed.

Jesus was the fulfillment of the law.. as He said.. the law and the prophets.. you seem not to understand that ..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   11:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Zipporah (#110)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I understand that, don't you.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   11:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: A K A Stone (#111)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I understand that, don't you.

LOL! So you dismiss His words right? Jesus was the fulfillment of the law.. and the new covenant in His blood was the fulfillment of all that the prophets and the law foretold.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Zipporah (#112)

you are partially right imo. It also says till ALL be fulfilled. ALL hasn't been fulfilled yet. Heaven and earth has not passed. We are still waiting on the second coming.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   11:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone (#113)

you are partially right imo. It also says till ALL be fulfilled. ALL hasn't been fulfilled yet. Heaven and earth has not passed. We are still waiting on the second coming.

So Jesus was a liar.. I see..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   11:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: A K A Stone (#109)

I noticed you know about the bible. You just don't accept it.

Of course I accept it... but not as the written word of God... It is the interpretation of God's words written and edited by MEN through the ages... FALLIBLE men with agendas.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   12:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: A K A Stone (#113)

To: Zipporah

you are partially right imo. It also says till ALL be fulfilled. ALL hasn't been fulfilled yet. Heaven and earth has not passed. We are still waiting on the second coming.

Read some more AKA... there is much you apparently don't understand or have not yet seen... PEACE... it's all good, at least you aren't laden down with hatred for others... THAT, in itself, speaks volumes for your sincerity... and sincerity is a trait I personally value

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   12:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Zipporah (#112)

LOL! So you dismiss His words right? Jesus was the fulfillment of the law.. and the new covenant in His blood was the fulfillment of all that the prophets and the law foretold.

You were probably raised by Christian fundamentalists, as I was, but with me it didn't take, though I don't reject Christ. I like to think of myself as a free thinker. I try not to criticize genuine Christians, such as you, and I am suspicious of posters who resort to name calling and character assassination to discredit other posters of whatever religious beliefs. All folks, or I should say decent folks, follow their own God-given light.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-25   12:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Zoroaster (#117)

You were probably raised by Christian fundamentalists, as I was, but with me it didn't take, though I don't reject Christ. I like to think of myself as a free thinker. I try not to criticize genuine Christians, such as you, and I am suspicious of posters who resort to name calling and character assassination to discredit other posters of whatever religious beliefs. All folks, or I should say decent folks, follow their own God-given light.

Wrong.. I wasn't.. I was raised unchurched until my mother became a Christian when I was a teenager.. I rebelled and didnt do the church thing.. I didnt go to church till much later .. and it was after I became a Christian.. and that didnt happen at a church.. but at home reading the bible. And that was after I met a 'real' Christian..one that never asked me to church..never preached to me, gave me a bible or pointed at sin.. or say that I wasnt saved.. what she did was did as Jesus said.. and that is what led me to the bible. It's the love of God thru Christians that lead people to salvation ..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   12:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: siagiah (#116)

Read some more AKA... there is much you apparently don't understand or have not yet seen... PEACE... it's all good, at least you aren't laden down with hatred for others... THAT, in itself, speaks volumes for your sincerity... and sincerity is a trait I personally value

Oh..thanks I guess that's it..I'll keep studying them.. .. :P

Thanks siagiah.. much appreciated..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   13:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Zipporah (#119)

Oh..thanks I guess that's it..I'll keep studying them.. .. :P

Thanks siagiah.. much appreciated..

Lois, Lois, Lois... I was talking to AKA STONE... I grabbed his comment to you, I wasn't DIRECTING it at you... LOL... silly gal... Ah NOES U do yer homewerk... tee hee...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   14:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: siagiah (#120)

Lois, Lois, Lois... I was talking to AKA STONE... I grabbed his comment to you, I wasn't DIRECTING it at you... LOL... silly gal... Ah NOES U do yer homewerk... tee hee...

ROFL! I thought you were being facetious.. LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   14:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: siagiah (#103)

None of you can deny your HATRED for the Jews...

Your self-flattery equals your self-loathing!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-25   19:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: SKYDRIFTER (#122)

Your self-flattery equals your self-loathing!

What are you talking about? Truly, I have no idea where this came from. I wasn't referring to YOU with that remark about "none being able to deny their hatred for the Jews"... I **thought** I was directing it at a couple of posters who very clearly despise Jews just for existing... You weren't amongst them...

So.... ??????? and even if you thought I was directing it at you... WHAT does your remark mean? I don't get where you are coming from... All sarcasm and/or jest aside... Please explain?

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   22:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: siagiah, Red Jones. Tom007, RickyJ (#103)

None of you can deny your HATRED for the Jews...

I can. Your statement is unsuportable and ridiculous. Ask Joan Strait, my neighbor, a widow, and a very seet person, whose driveway and sidewalk I, or my children, shovel snow for her, and check on her well being if we don't see her for awhile. She has us on speed dial.

Nor much HATERD there, siagiah, for you? Sorry to dissapoint.

And there is my good friend Mark Sternberg. And Richard Strauss.

You have assumed much, S. I would open my eyes and mind a little.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   22:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: siagiah (#123)

**thought** I was directing it at a couple of posters who very clearly despise Jews just for existing... You weren't amongst them...

O brother.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   22:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: All (#125)

who very clearly despise Jews just for existing..

This whole scholck is geting a little thin.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   22:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: tom007, siagiah (#124)

the quote I said that you almost quoted correctly was 'I'd rather throw my lot in with a pious muslim than a christian zionist'.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-01-25   22:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Red Jones (#127)

I Stand corrected. Thanks RJ.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   23:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: tom007 (#126)

This whole scholck is geting a little thin.

Whatever... if you don't see the blatant hatred spewing out of SOME of the posters on this thread, fine... I don't care. I was simply giving my opinion of it all which is why everyone's here, non?... I guess that's not okay with you? No biggie... I didn't really expect to be understood by the folks I was addressing with my remarks. It ain't easy being green... latah...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   23:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: siagiah (#123)

I was directing it at a couple of posters who very clearly despise Jews just for existing...

If Jews were merely existing, there would be no problem. If Israel wasn't ethnically cleansing the Palestinians and milking the American treasury, there would be FAR fewer problems--far less public relations difficultites for Jews. If Zionists and liberal Jews were so active in organizations and entities detriemntal to American society, culture and government, there would be FAR fewer problems--far less public relations difficultites for Jews..

A WHOLE LOT of them getting onto the PNAC/AIPAC/SPLC/NAACP/JINSA/Israel/ACLU/ADL/Hollywood/federal media bandwagon is what creates problems. Behaviors and conduct effecting OTHERS create problems--merely existing hurts no one and bothers no one except in your Zionist protectionist and defensive mind. Those Jews wishing to live thier lives and exist like the rest of us should turn thier ire towards thier brethren in the aformentioned organizations and entities.

But you KNOW that, don't you?

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-25   23:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: siagiah (#129)

if you don't see the if you don't see the blatant hatred spewing out of SOME of the posters on this thread, fine... I don't care. on this thread, fine... I don't care.

I do not read every post, yet I cannot recollect "you don't see the blatant hatred spewing out of SOME" I don't think it is there.

I do see concerns that the tribe has infiltrated into the workings of government with their chavanistic ideology, but I hardly can call there concerns "Hatered", can you?

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   23:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: wbales (#130)

Those Jews wishing to live thier lives and exist like the rest of us should turn thier ire towards thier brethren in the aformentioned organizations and entities.

Roger that. I keep waiting for the Jewish community to publically condemm the extreamist zionist policies, and the silence is defening.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   23:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: wbales (#130)

A lot more of them should be joining JPFO (Jews for the Preservatio of Firearms Ownership) instead. There is an organization whose ideas will be far more effective at ending "Holocausts" no mater who perpetrates them than all the PNACs, AIPACs, SPLCs, NAACPs JINSAs, Israel, ACLUs and ADLs in the world. The only way to stop "Holocausts" is to ARM THE POTENTIAL VICTIMS whoever they might be.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-01-25   23:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: wbales (#130)

Behaviors and conduct effecting OTHERS create problems--merely existing hurts no one and bothers no one except in your Zionist protectionist and defensive mind.

OBVIOUSLY you haven't read my posts above or you'd KNOW that your statement here is exactly the OPPOSITE of my stated position on zionism and its affects on America. You are assuming and you DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FOLKS ASSUME don't you? Try again W... You are totally off base in your response to me.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   0:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: tom007 (#131)

I do see concerns that the tribe has infiltrated into the workings of government with their chavanistic ideology, but I hardly can call there concerns "Hatered", can you?

No, I don't consider THAT hatred... Strangely enough, I SHARE that view but you'd know that if you'd actually bothered to read what I actually said...

Isn't it funny (odd, not haha) how people can read the same thing as another and not see the same thing? Or maybe it's because they DIDN'T read it but simply assume they know what it says because someone ELSE who didn't read it but posted responses as if they did gives them the wrong impression so others just presume they know what's there when they actually don't?... personally, because I know you are intelligent and CAN READ & COMPREHEND, I'm leaning heavily towards the latter.

I maintain that certain individuals here have posted hatefilled posts that cannot be construed as anything BUT hatred for THE JEWS AS A WHOLE read straight up and when you read between the lines... and that their disdain is NOT simply a conflict with them over political zionism that HURTS AMERICA.

I also maintain that my posts CLEARLY state my view that ZIONISM is bad for America, that putting ISRAEL's interests before America's is just plain WRONG in my opinion... HOWEVER, aside from THAT particular activity, I have no problem whatsoever with THE JEWS.

After actually re-READING the posts above, in all honesty, can you say that is true of each and every one of the posters who responded here? That there is NO UNDERCURRENT OF HATRED permeating several posts? I believe that you will see my point if you review the thread with an eye for the thoughts BEHIND the words... Give it a shot... You just might be surprised at how wrong you are about what I actually said and think...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   1:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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