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Title: Why the Holocaust Could Not Have Happened
Source: Badlands
URL Source: http://littlegeneva.com/badlands/?p=1139
Published: Jan 23, 2006
Author: Badlands
Post Date: 2006-01-23 19:35:51 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: Holocaust, Happened, Could
Views: 1268
Comments: 189

Having read emotional letters from Jewish writers in the press, I feel compelled to comment myself.

I am acquainted with military history and have read substantially on the subject. One Jewish writer stated that he was not even alive at the time of the Second World War. As another writer stated, there are always two sides to the coin. Well, I was not alive at that time either, so it follows that the only source of information available to the post-war generations is history as it was written down for us.

History has not and never will be recorded objectively, as every historian writes according to his own subjective view and in his own book will try to prove his own thesis. The mass-murder of six million Jews, however, is a myth. This is admitted and proved primarily by British and American authors, and while withholding my own views, here is some information to consider:

According to evidence led in a paper entitled “The Third Reich”, three to four million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz alone. This is mathematically impossible. Auschwitz was in operation for four years. Let’s assume only three million people were killed here — in one year, that would be 750,000 or 62,500 a month — or 2,083 a day!

According to the German Christian Democratic delegate, Eric Blumenfeld of Hamburg, who was incarcerated at Auschwitz, killings only took place at night, for reasons of secrecy — a period of 12 hours. Thus, 2,082 people should have been killed every 12 hours out of 24 for 1,460 days (four years).

Assuming the corpses were buried, and seeing that sand is four tenths heavier than the human body (proportionately), at an average of 50 kilograms per body, 70 kilograms of sand would be displaced per corpse [a kilogram is equal to 2.2 pounds for practical purposes]. At 2,083 bodies a day, with a corpse mass of 104.2 metric tons, this would be 145.8 metric tons of soil to be removed daily!

In four years, assuming there were “only” 3 million bodies buried, this would leave 212,868 metric tons of soil piled up somewhere. Where is it? There is also the argument that the bodies were burned (also a mathematical impossibility). The calculations are based on figures and evidence from the ultra-modern and efficient crematorium at Dortmund in Germany. To burn one corpse completely requires 31 kilograms of coal. The 2,083 people allegedly killed in Auschwitz daily would have required more than 65 metric tons of coal, which was extremely valuable to the war effort — each day. For Germany, this was impossible.

Burning the bodies was impossible for another reason. In the most modern crematoriums today, one body requires about 2? hours to be completely cremated. Even if Auschwitz had had 100 burning chambers, the 3 million corpses would have taken 15 years to cremate, burning only in the 12-hour period each day.

Each body produces on average 2 kilograms of ash. Three million corpses would create 6,000 metric tons of ash. This ash, all 6,000 metric tons of it would make quite a heap. Where were all these ash-heaps after the war?

In closing, I would like to add that all recorded history is on paper and on paper you can write anything, even that 6 million Jews were killed. Paper is patient!

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#149. To: YertleTurtle (#143)

If Jews were merely existing, there would be no problem.

Exactly.

The only two groups I know that are despised in every country in which they reside are the Roma (Gypsies) because they are thieves, and Jews, quite a few of whom are not only liars and thieves, they attempt to degrade, indeed destroy the culture. If they just minded their own business, there would be no problem. But they never do, and they never learn what the problem is.

Like I said earlier... there are SOME here who blindly hate Jews simply for existing... Parse it all you please, you hate them and even if it's not obvious to you, it's obvious to others...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: wbales (#148)

To: siagiah

Instead of trying to smear certain posters as the "dreaded Jew-Hater", what should be getting your attention--what you should be concerned about--what you should be addressing (if you are an American):

OH? REALLY? IF I'M AN AMERICAN THIS IS WHAT I ***SHOULD*** BE ADDRESSING? Addressing hatred that is staring me in the face should be of no concern to me BECAUSE you've justified it to yourself by parading your stereotypes to defend it?

Get a grip WBales, I AM an American but I will decide what I ***SHOULD*** be concerned with if I dare to call myself an American... You sound just like GWB with his "yer wiff us or yer agin' us" mentality... I expected better from you than for you to be telling others what they **SHOULD** do to be an AMERICAN... and I feel SORRY for you that you don't recognize but DEFEND your own discriminatory remarks against an entire group of people you know ONLY from a stereotypical position...

***spit*** Whatever merit there might be in your "true blue American" way of thinking, it's lost in the interpretation because of your bigoted remarks... I might have bothered to check out your pet cause, but given the rest of your post suggesting that I'm not a REAL American because I'm concern myself with things other than what you care about, I won't bother... you've just hurt your OWN cause by losing a potential supporter...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: siagiah (#149)

there are SOME here who blindly hate Jews simply for existing...

There you go again.

Let's try this:

1) WHY? Why do you think in your opinion someone would hate Jews simply for existing???? No other reason except for merely being. Exactly and specifically WHY?

2) And similarly, succinctly explain to me why Hitler hated Jews? Can you do that?

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   9:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: siagiah (#150)

you've just hurt your OWN cause by losing a potential supporter...

That's hilarious.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   9:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: A K A Stone (#145)

So Jesus was a liar.. I see..

I never said that. He said till ALL!!!

Basically that IS what you are saying.. #1 you cannot cherry pick verses without considering the context..

Then what was Jesus referring to? Consider the scripture you referenced in Matthew with this in Luke 21:33 .. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Back to Matthew 5:18 in context.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Now what did he mean? Jesus meant that nothing would stop the fulfillment of His purpose on earth.. That is to fulfill the Law.. and bring a new covenant between man and God..in His blood.

Continuing IN CONTEXT in Matthew:

20 "For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

21 "You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'

22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

What was Jesus trying to convey? Jesus was directly challenging the Pharisees, scribes and the Talmudic tradition.. what was ADDED to scripture and had become MORE important than the law itself. He was saying its the essense of the law not the tradition of men .. And that is reason He made this reference: "and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven"..

So His message was #1 saying that nothing could or would stop the fulfillment of his mission #2 that religious leaders were misleading the people and that they needed to return to God and His law..and that He was going to deliver them from their taskmasters.. the Pharisees and scribes that perverted God's word.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: wbales (#152)

That's hilarious.

CLEARLY you know zilch about politics and public relations. Even less about gaining supporters for important causes... Laugh all you like, you've inadvertantly SUPPORTED your enemy by dismissing a potential, PROBABLE ally... You don't care? Well BLAME YOURSELF and those like you for turning off Americans who might have given you the time of day once upon a time.

Ever wonder HOW your "enemy" has gained such prominence? Your actions and you could be the posterchild for their training manual on how to steal YOUR supporters.

Think about it...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: siagiah (#150)

Here are some more questions (agree or disagree). Let's see how you respond to a discussion on the merits and substance.

1. The UN should have the right and authority to create a nation for the specific benefit of a particular group of people on land primarily inhabited by another group of people.

2. Putting Israel where it is was a good idea that is working out well.

3. Israel’s religious/ethnic/race specific Right of Return is compatible with Democratic principles.

4. Jews had no involvement in the Russian Revolution.

5. In 1930s Germany, Jews did nothing to antagonize or provoke the lunatic Hitler.

6. The number of 6 millions Jews killed by Hitler in WWII is accurate.

7. Anyone questioning and/or doubting the 6 million number denies the entire holocaust.

8. America and Americans have a duty to support and defend Israel.

9. Israel treats Palestinians within its control with dignity, equitably and fairly.

10. Saddam Hussein/Iraq was a direct and immediate threat to America and Americans so as to require immediate military intervention by the US military.

11. Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were goods friends and partners in international terrorism.

12. Osama Bin Laden was never associated with any agency of the American federal government.

13. Saddam Hussein never received any ambiguous diplomatic signals from the United States prior to Gulf War I.

14. Shooting machine guns and rockets from helicopter gunships down into villages and neighborhoods cannot be terrorism.

15. Bulldozing/razing homes/businesses and/or agricultural fields cannot be considered terrorism.

16. The reason terrorists high-jacked and crashed jets into the World Trade Centers was because they hate our freedoms, elections, religion, way of life.

17. America’s middle eastern foreign policy, in general, and support of Israel, in particular, had nothing to do with 09/11.

18. OPEC--not American oil merchants--is reaping most of the profits from increased American domestic oil/gas prices.

19. The American federal government was absolutely clueless about 09/11 prior to 09/11.

20. There were no market/securities transactions out of the ordinary prior to 09/11.

21. Back just before Gulf War II started and during the UN debates concerning same, France is just as wrong now as they were then.

22. Muslims are determined to take over and rule the world and, especially, the United States.

23. Muslims possess the actual capability to take over and rule the world and, especially, the United States.

24. Trying to establish a democracy in an Muslim Arab country by military force is a good idea.

25. It is a proper function of the American federal government to establish “democracies” in other countries around the world-- overthrowing existing governments by force, if necessary.

26. America and Americans have the excess and available cash to establish “democracies” in other countries around the world-- overthrowing existing governments by force, if necessary.

27. Bush’s stance on illegal immigration and America’s borders is consistent with Homeland Security.

28. Prior to and during the attack, Israel had no idea that the USS Liberty was an American ship.

29. USS Liberty crew who maintain that Israel knew that their ship was American prior to the attack are mistaken or are anti-semites.

30. Having a lobby for a foreign government as the second most powerful lobby in Washington, DC is good for America and Americans.

31. The WWII Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC should have been built before the American Military WWII Memorial.

32. The WWII Holocaust is more significant and historically important then the Russian Revolution Holocaust or any other Holocaust.

33. Israel’s military dealings with China is none of America’s business.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   9:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: siagiah (#154)

Don't be scared. Try to answer my questions.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   9:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: wbales (#151)

There you go again.

Let's try this:

1) WHY? Why do you think in your opinion someone would hate Jews simply for existing???? No other reason except for merely being. Exactly and specifically WHY?

2) And similarly, succinctly explain to me why Hitler hated Jews? Can you do that?

Hate NEEDS NO REASON to exist...

Teach the children who their enemy is when they're young and you've got 'em for life. They'll never know the REAL reason they hate someone. What has any Jew done to you or someone you know that justifies your personal hatred of them?

We're not talking ZIONIST controls on America, we're talking JEWS, the people in the streets that you do so love to hate...

While you're at it, why don't YOU try to explain to the rest of why folks hated Blacks and enslaved them for generations? Go on, make your day.

btw, Hitler was a Jew. Half blood, I believe.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: wbales (#155)

I'm not scared of you W... I have to go to the hospital. I'll be back later...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-26   9:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: siagiah (#157)

Nevermind.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   10:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: siagiah, All (#123)

Siag,

The problem is "Israel." However you want to re-package the matter, that racial- religious fetish-state has reached into the American way of life to the extreme that one either sucks up to the "Jewish" state or is forced to defend themselves against a clever bunch of parasites.

The ADL got me kicked off as a writer for Col. Hackworth's online magazine; seems I that oppose the 'official' story of 9-11 and the War Crimes of the Bush Cabal. Should I think highly of them?

Yeah, I have Jewish friends that I like, too.

Israel/Jews have no license to run over the rest of the world, because they have such a high opinion of themselves. They paractice racism, then point the finger at others.

Your assignemnt of "hate" is way out of order. "Fear?" For damned sure.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-26   11:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: siagiah, Christine, Diana, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Bayonne, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#150)



Ah, Siag, you've been to "Disinformationist School!"

That 'stress' on "hate" - add the invocation of of the "shame" mechanism - gave you away.

Or, will you deny that?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-26   11:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: siagiah (#157)

btw, Hitler was a Jew. Half blood, I believe.

Way wrong info. There was an interesting case made for it; but it fell through.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-26   11:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: A K A Stone, YertleTurtle (#144)

The only two groups I know that are despised in every country in which they reside are the Roma (Gypsies) because they are thieves, and Jews, You slipped up, you didn't call them zionists, you made clear it is jews. lol

Zionism is a relatively new political phenomenon. If you look closely at history and not jump to conclusions you will see this.

Also see The Fable of the Ducks and the Hens to gain more clarity into how this group operates to undermine, subvert and control. It's a good analogy IF you pay attention to history.

Zionism is the greater danger at the present since it is a secular and racist ideology. I have no problem with devoutly religious Jews since they are also interested in social justice and peace and harmony. It's their conniving, greedy brethren with who adhere to the doctrines Talmudic revenge with whom I have a problem.

In case you didn't notice, that was the basis of the Bolshevik Revolution and the murder of millions of Russian Orthodox Christians, which included the entire family of Tsar Nicholas II who was the spiritual leader of the Eastern Orthodox Church.

See also The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel for more clarity on this.

There are differing groups among the Hasidim (Jewish Orthodoxy and Reform Judaism) and it can seem confusing at times. I didn't say it would be easy. After all, I'm still learning myself since much of this is only visible to the Jews themselves.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-01-26   11:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: siagiah (#157)

Hate NEEDS NO REASON to exist...

You see, this is where your basic premise is faulty.

I prefer to think of it as being proud that my ancestry is white, Christian and European. What is wrong with White Pride? Every other ggroup has its own orgnizations to promote themselves, but white Europeans shouldn't? That is a guilt trip and a half. Leave me off that bus to perdition.

This wrong-headedness is known as muticulturalism and is a product of the twisted Zionist mind. It is also known and Cultural Communism. It has its roots in the Marxist Frankfurt School and is the basis of the political correctness movement which has undermined our cultural, moral and ethical standards. It is also the antithesis of traditional American classical liberalism.

I could go on, but I would have to write a book on here.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-01-26   12:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: siagiah (#149)

Like I said earlier... there are SOME here who blindly hate Jews simply for existing... Parse it all you please, you hate them and even if it's not obvious to you, it's obvious to others...

Goodbye, troll.

You now join the hallowed bozo filter ranks along with AKA Stone.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-26   20:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: BTP Holdings (#164)

I prefer to think of it as being proud that my ancestry is white, Christian and European. What is wrong with White Pride? Every other ggroup has its own orgnizations to promote themselves, but white Europeans shouldn't? That is a guilt trip and a half. Leave me off that bus to perdition.

This wrong-headedness is known as muticulturalism and is a product of the twisted Zionist mind. It is also known and Cultural Communism. It has its roots in the Marxist Frankfurt School and is the basis of the political correctness movement which has undermined our cultural, moral and ethical standards. It is also the antithesis of traditional American classical liberalism.

well explained!

christine  posted on  2006-01-26   20:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: tom007, wbales (#132)

To: wbales

Those Jews wishing to live thier lives and exist like the rest of us should turn thier ire towards thier brethren in the aformentioned organizations and entities.

Roger that. I keep waiting for the Jewish community to publically condemm the extreamist zionist policies, and the silence is defening.

I have to disagree with that thought, the Jews who just want to live their lives in peace have no responsibility towards the behavior of their neocon brethren, they are only responsible for their own actions. No one should be judged as a group, though it is too easy to do sometimes. But there are Jews out there who just want to live their lives and be left alone.

Just like we are not responsible for the behavior of all people who are racially/ethnically/religiously similar to us.

Diana  posted on  2006-01-26   21:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: siagiah (#135)

I have no problem whatsoever with THE JEWS.

THE JEWS is not a monolithic entity.

I'm sure there are quite a few of them who regard themselves first as human beings, and individual ones at that.

Diana  posted on  2006-01-26   21:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Diana (#167)

That was perfect, Diana. Not even Democrats are responsible for what other Democrats do, much as that bothers them. :)

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-26   21:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Diana (#167)

well said, Diana.

christine  posted on  2006-01-26   21:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: siagiah, wbales (#154)

CLEARLY you know zilch about politics and public relations. Even less about gaining supporters for important causes...

siagiah, could you please tone down the arrogance a bit?

There are posters on here who have various viewpoints, and they should be allowed to express themselves without being put down and called names.

Also I don't see you answering valid questions posters are posing to you, instead all I see are flying insults from your quarter.

None of us has the right to play God, only He has the proper information and knowledge to judge.

Diana  posted on  2006-01-26   21:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Diana, christine, Dakmar (#167)

Zionists, Israel Firsters, and liberal Jews are the great majority of Jews. When a sufficient number of an identifiable group exhibit adverse and onerous behavior and if the innocent among them complains concerning the negative attitude which developes towards that entire group, the innocent among them should FIRST direct thier ire towards the bad actors within the group AND NOT TOWARDS COMPLAINING PARTIES outside the group.

Anti-semitism has become a shield and a first strike smear tactic for Zionists, Israel Firsters, and liberal Jews.

NK Jews, inter alia, are my ally in the issue as they are not enablers, supporters of, or exhibit silent acquiesence toward Zionists, Israel Firsters and/or liberal Jews.

It goes without saying (except, of course, every other month or so when some bonehead raises the issue and issues the smear) that there are good America first conservative Jews. That there are very few of them is not my fault.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   21:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: wbales (#172)

NK Jews, inter alia, are my ally in the issue as they are not enablers, supporters of, or exhibit silent acquiesence toward Zionists, Israel Firsters and/or liberal Jews.

Agree

christine  posted on  2006-01-26   21:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: christine (#173)

Suppose I am a good America first conservative Jew:

When I hear valid, reasonable, and rational questions and concerns being raised by a fellow American about Zakheim, Wolfowitz, Perle-- ADL/PNAC/AIPAC/Israel/SPLC/Hollywood/federal media ect. and so forth and so on...

is my first reaction to be: "Well, what a Jew Hater."??

No.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-26   21:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: wbales (#174)

you're right. point well made.

christine  posted on  2006-01-26   22:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: wbales (#172)

Not all "liberal" jews are hardcore bolshevik frankfurt school mind-warpers either. They seem more kinda UAW than Trotsky if you ask me.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-26   22:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: wbales (#174)

Suppose I am a good America first conservative Jew:

When I hear valid, reasonable, and rational questions and concerns being raised by a fellow American about Zakheim, Wolfowitz, Perle-- ADL/PNAC/AIPAC/Israel/SPLC/Hollywood/federal media ect. and so forth and so on...

is my first reaction to be: "Well, what a Jew Hater."??

No.

You are'nt rebutting an average Jewish US citizen, you are rebutting an account designed to entrap you or something.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-26   22:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Diana (#167)

No one should be judged as a group, though it is too easy to do sometimes. But there are Jews out there who just want to live their lives and be left alone.

Just like we are not responsible for the behavior of all people who are racially/ethnically/religiously similar to us.

Your arguement is sound and your point well taken. If your brother robs a bank, that does not require you to speak out against bank robbing.

Nights are getting shorter by six minutes a day ( more or less).

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-26   22:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: YertleTurtle (#165)

You now join the hallowed bozo filter ranks along with AKA Stone.

Who cares? Besides, you've saved me the trouble... LOL...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-27   0:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Diana (#168)

THE JEWS is not a monolithic entity.

I'm sure there are quite a few of them who regard themselves first as human beings, and individual ones at that.

Yes, I know that. There's prolly no point in explaining what I was trying to say. I don't think it matters anyway.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-27   0:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Diana (#171)

Sia: CLEARLY you know zilch about politics and public relations. Even less about gaining supporters for important causes...

To: siagiah, wbales

siagiah, could you please tone down the arrogance a bit?

There are posters on here who have various viewpoints, and they should be allowed to express themselves without being put down and called names.

Also I don't see you answering valid questions posters are posing to you, instead all I see are flying insults from your quarter.

Well golly gee, this bonehead (wbales remark) can't possibly answer their "valid" questions even though their questions have NOTHING to do with my accusation that certain folks hate Jews as a group, not jsut for their zionistic actions.

As for the questions, I didn't have an opportunity to even read the questions before the poster told me "don't be scared"... and when I said that I'd return later... ( BECAUSE I HAD to go to the hospital and was there for over 15 hours, life isn't all about THIS place) he said not to bother since I apparently wasn't fast enough for him... so I didn't bother... At 2 am, would YOU bother? Tonight, I just walked in the house a half hour ago (midnight). If you think I'm gonna waste my time sifting through THEIR accusations against me to defend myself against their ridiculous charges, you're quite mistaken.

Terribly sorry if I've offended you with my obviously annoyed manner on this thread. It would seem that I am certainly not alone in my transgressions... but then, why notice that when you can focus on the stranger in the midst? They can say whatever they want against me and accuse me of all sorts of absurd things... but I'm arrogant for responding in kind... yup... sure... you might be shocked to learn that posters on other forums insist that I'm an antisemite... too funny, eh? know why? Because it seems as if no one bothers to HEAR what anyone else is saying... some don't even listen to their OWN words... or so it seems to me sometimes...

BTW, I pointed out to the poster that he was LOSING converts to his cause by HIS statements... something I'd EXPECT he'd show a tad of concern about if he REALLY cares about his pet cause. PR is all about WINNING CONVERTS to your "side", not turning them against you. That's what he succeeded in doing. He failed to notice that I was 80% on his side and the 20% against, was strictly for the clumping of all Jews into his little vision of evil that needed to be weeded out. Sorry, that sounds WAY too much like Nazi Germany's views of them... and that sickens me... so I pointed it out. That's it, that's all, and that ain't gonna change anytime soon... bozo the clown's insults aside.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-27   0:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: wbales (#174)

Suppose I am a good America first conservative Jew:

When I hear valid, reasonable, and rational questions and concerns being raised by a fellow American about Zakheim, Wolfowitz, Perle-- ADL/PNAC/AIPAC/Israel/SPLC/Hollywood/federal media ect. and so forth and so on...

is my first reaction to be: "Well, what a Jew Hater."??

No.

If that WAS what happened here, I'd agree with you... but it's NOT what happened here... You came in late. If you didn't read the bazillion posts prior to your entry, you might skim them now? Maybe you'd see a few things a tad bit differently... then again, maybe not... but I maintain that your suggestion about what happened here DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE... at least not universally...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-27   0:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: siagiah (#139)

because they hate the JEWS... that's why.

That's all the "Jews" of today have, hype and slogans!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-28   19:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: RickyJ (#183)

That's all the "Jews" of today have, hype and slogans!

Let it go RickyJ... Life's too short.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-29   1:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: siagiah (#184)

Let it go RickyJ... Life's too short.

You got that right! Life is too short to be wasted on lies.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-29   22:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: RickyJ (#185)

Gee...for some reason, I can't see post #184.

OH, yeah...bozo...nevermind.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-29   22:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: wbales (#186)

Gee...for some reason, I can't see post #184.

He/She claims to not be a "Jew", yet it seems it is all He/She ever talks about is defending "Jewish" lies. You're right, a bozo if I ever saw one. Sure wish they had this feature on LF, Kudzu would end up talking to herself only.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-29   22:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: RickyJ (#187)

Sure wish they had this feature on LF, Kudzu would end up talking to herself only.

lololol

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-29   22:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: RickyJ (#187)

He/She claims to not be a "Jew", yet it seems it is all He/She ever talks about is defending "Jewish" lies. You're right, a bozo if I ever saw one. Sure wish they had this feature on LF, Kudzu would end up talking to herself only.

Ricky J, contrary to your opinion, I am not a Jew, never was, never will be. I also talk about lots of things besides Jews and their particular interests and/or the deceptions you claim.

Defending the majority of innocent Jews from charges that their asshole ZIONIST brethren deserve is all I did.

Commenting on the fact that your posts IMPLY a strong dislike/hatred for Jews as a people that includes not only the Zionist assholes but the good Jews with them is completely within the scope of this forum and quite allowed. From my POV, it is actually YOU who has the problem. I don't care whether you "get it" or not nor do I care if you, wbales, and yertleturtle "bozo" me forever. Obviously you've all decided all you care to know about me, what I think, and what/who I am, so why do you bother to make comments to me anymore? Are you trying to piss me off into bozoing you? LOL... I can just as easily just ignore you if I want to or not, if I want to do that.

Get over yourself already. It's so yesterday to keep this silliness up.

btw, I'm a "she". You can tell wbales that his using the bozo filter is certainly no loss to me. LOL

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-30   15:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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