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Title: Why the Holocaust Could Not Have Happened
Source: Badlands
URL Source: http://littlegeneva.com/badlands/?p=1139
Published: Jan 23, 2006
Author: Badlands
Post Date: 2006-01-23 19:35:51 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: Holocaust, Happened, Could
Views: 1320
Comments: 189

Having read emotional letters from Jewish writers in the press, I feel compelled to comment myself.

I am acquainted with military history and have read substantially on the subject. One Jewish writer stated that he was not even alive at the time of the Second World War. As another writer stated, there are always two sides to the coin. Well, I was not alive at that time either, so it follows that the only source of information available to the post-war generations is history as it was written down for us.

History has not and never will be recorded objectively, as every historian writes according to his own subjective view and in his own book will try to prove his own thesis. The mass-murder of six million Jews, however, is a myth. This is admitted and proved primarily by British and American authors, and while withholding my own views, here is some information to consider:

According to evidence led in a paper entitled “The Third Reich”, three to four million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz alone. This is mathematically impossible. Auschwitz was in operation for four years. Let’s assume only three million people were killed here — in one year, that would be 750,000 or 62,500 a month — or 2,083 a day!

According to the German Christian Democratic delegate, Eric Blumenfeld of Hamburg, who was incarcerated at Auschwitz, killings only took place at night, for reasons of secrecy — a period of 12 hours. Thus, 2,082 people should have been killed every 12 hours out of 24 for 1,460 days (four years).

Assuming the corpses were buried, and seeing that sand is four tenths heavier than the human body (proportionately), at an average of 50 kilograms per body, 70 kilograms of sand would be displaced per corpse [a kilogram is equal to 2.2 pounds for practical purposes]. At 2,083 bodies a day, with a corpse mass of 104.2 metric tons, this would be 145.8 metric tons of soil to be removed daily!

In four years, assuming there were “only” 3 million bodies buried, this would leave 212,868 metric tons of soil piled up somewhere. Where is it? There is also the argument that the bodies were burned (also a mathematical impossibility). The calculations are based on figures and evidence from the ultra-modern and efficient crematorium at Dortmund in Germany. To burn one corpse completely requires 31 kilograms of coal. The 2,083 people allegedly killed in Auschwitz daily would have required more than 65 metric tons of coal, which was extremely valuable to the war effort — each day. For Germany, this was impossible.

Burning the bodies was impossible for another reason. In the most modern crematoriums today, one body requires about 2? hours to be completely cremated. Even if Auschwitz had had 100 burning chambers, the 3 million corpses would have taken 15 years to cremate, burning only in the 12-hour period each day.

Each body produces on average 2 kilograms of ash. Three million corpses would create 6,000 metric tons of ash. This ash, all 6,000 metric tons of it would make quite a heap. Where were all these ash-heaps after the war?

In closing, I would like to add that all recorded history is on paper and on paper you can write anything, even that 6 million Jews were killed. Paper is patient!

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#1. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

There is no doubt that Germany murdered significant numbers of Jews. Whether it was 6 million, 300 million, or 600,000 isn't the important part that folks need to remember. The outrageous murder of citizens done with the silent approval of the populace or done in spite of disapproval due to a fear of reprisal for speaking out is the important part. Genocide can and does happen and we must not allow it. There is no doubt that the Holocaust DID happen.

I wasn't there. I wasn't even born until a generation after the war ended. BUT my dad was there as part of the liberation forces. He saw the prison camps and plenty of dead bodies. He saw the crematoriums and gas chambers. Mass graves and trains loaded with dead people being shipped out of there for burial elsewhere. (that explains some of where the mountains of ash are) He has no reason to lie to me about it. He has no reason to lie to you either. He's not a Jew, a nazi, or related to anyone who profited or died. He was simply a soldier drafted to go there. What he said he saw, I wholeheartedly believe he saw. I also believe those who survived to tell the tale. I believe that what they witnessed really happened.

You can't credibly say that the holocaust did not happen. You can dispute how many died. Individual witnesses can only speak of groups in the thousands. They don't have the vision of 6 million. Only those who presided over the murders had any clue how many fellow human beings they murdered... so therefore, were there 6 million? I dunno, nobody really knows the precise numbers... but THAT'S the only part that can be reasonably disputed.

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-23   20:17:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: siagiah (#1)

There is no doubt that Germany murdered significant numbers of Jews

There is a difference between the 700,000 to 1.2 million who actually died, and six million who didn't.

By the way, did you know Communism was originally called "Jewish Bolshevism" because the Communist Party was 90% Jewish -- and they killed 60 million Russians?

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-23   20:27:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

Unless I'm mistaken Yertle, you stated agreement that the holocaust did not happen. Are you wavering in your belief now or did I misunderstand your point in posting this article?

I won't dispute numbers with you because I don't have any knowledge of how many REALLY died. However, your focus on the difference between 1.2 million and 6 million gives me cause to wonder if you are suggesting that 1.2 million is an acceptable number of dead Jews, collateral damage maybe?? therefore it's not a holocaust but an inevitable result of war? Forgive me but I don't understand your position on this??

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-23   20:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: siagiah (#5)

Unless I'm mistaken Yertle, you stated agreement that the holocaust did not happen. Are you wavering in your belief now or did I misunderstand your point in posting this article?

I won't dispute numbers with you because I don't have any knowledge of how many REALLY died. However, your focus on the difference between 1.2 million and 6 million gives me cause to wonder if you are suggesting that 1.2 million is an acceptable number of dead Jews, collateral damage maybe?? therefore it's not a holocaust but an inevitable result of war? Forgive me but I don't understand your position on this??

There have been lots of holocausts, not just one. King Leopold may have killed up to 10 million Congolese. Why do you not know about that, or the 60 Russians?

Were those 10 million Congolese acceptable, or the 60 million Russians?

Exaggerating one holocaust and ignoring all the others causes nothing but trouble.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-23   20:47:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: YertleTurtle, Zipporah, Robin, Dakmar, All (#9)

There have been lots of holocausts, not just one. King Leopold may have killed up to 10 million Congolese. Why do you not know about that, or the 60 Russians?

Were those 10 million Congolese acceptable, or the 60 million Russians?

Exaggerating one holocaust and ignoring all the others causes nothing but trouble.

Of course the other genocides were not acceptable. Whatever did I say that suggested that I thought they were? I'm confused by your disjointed responses and assumptions about my thoughts.

YOU posted an article saying that the GERMAN HOLOCAUST DID NOT HAPPEN. That is the topic of this thread and the debate you chose to have?? If you'd RATHER debate the concept of an eye for an eye (others were murdered by Jews so the murder of Jews is A-okay with you) or discuss how much you apparently dislike Jews in general, go for it, but at least stay on topic within your own thread!! Don't fault me for not knowing what you want to discuss if you don't even know.

To answer your final shot, I don't think that the world is IGNORING all the others, I think that modern day ZIONISTS are just better at keeping theirs "front page" for their own politically motivated reasons... but THAT'S another story unrelated to whether the largescale MURDER of unknown numbers of Jews did or did not happen. I'm NOT on board with the ZIONIST movement or their manipulative politics in the USA... even though I recognize that the holocaust DID happen.

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-23   20:58:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: siagiah (#12)

YOU posted an article saying that the GERMAN HOLOCAUST DID NOT HAPPEN

The holocaust, defined as the sacred six million, DID NOT happen. Holocaust, strictly defined, means to consumed by fire. Dresden was a holocaust; "the Holocaust" that most people believe happened, with four million people gassed and incinerated at Auswitz, thousands of people a day for four straight years without a break, didn't.

Pay some attention to the math in the article. Break it down by people per minute and you'll realize it's utterly impossible for "the Holocaust" to have happened.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-23   21:33:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: YertleTurtle (#29)

Yertle, it's not worth the effort to discuss further with you. Believe whatever you want. I couldn't care less.

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-23   21:35:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: siagiah (#31)

I couldn't care less.

Live in your fantasy world all you wish.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-23   21:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: YertleTurtle (#32)

Live in your fantasy world all you wish

Why thank you~!! It's so kind of you to grant me that permission... Now I'll grant you permission to run along now... Certainly there is some grave financial injustice being committed by some rogue, self-serving Jew that requires your immediate attention lest they get away scot free with their crime

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-23   21:41:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: siagiah (#33)

Live in your fantasy world all you wish. Why thank you~!! It's so kind of you to grant me that permission... Now I'll grant you permission to run along now... Certainly there is some grave financial injustice being committed by some rogue, self-serving Jew that requires your immediate attention lest they get away scot free with their crime

You're welcome.

By the way, Jews in the last 2000 years have been expelled from some 80 countries. Every wonder why? Zoroaster explained quite well in his post below.

I repeat: you live in a fantasy world.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-24   5:37:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: YertleTurtle, Zipporah, robin (#40)

The Holocaust is the lynchpin of Jewish supremacy whose champions often assume moral superiority over their opponents because of alleged victimhood, a special relationship with God, membership in a special "elite" or "chosen tribe," and a kind of aloof "highminded" snobbishness that accrues because of the weightiness of their preoccupations, their altruism, and their willingness to sacrifice themselves (and others) to their cause. After all, who can bear to deal with common goys when one is trying to save Yahweh's darlings from goy beasts. The Jewish supremacists can show great indignation when goys are "insensitive" enough to challenge these claims.

In his little box of insidious propaganda the Jewish supremacist keeps many cunning devices, tricks, lies for his Zionist attack dogs to deceive and circumvent decent, honest Americans, and he is never so happy as when he is working these evil things and seeing them go. His favorite trick, right out of the Frankfurt School of Political Correctness, is to call anyone who disagrees with his Holocaust fanasty an anti-Semite. He has worn out his keyboard in working this trick. By calling Americans who question their government’s committment to the holocaust myth anti-Semites, he can identify these Americans with Nazis and claim that threats to Israel can only come from right-wing fanatics.

Don’t overestimate the significance of Zionist trolls on this forum and elsewhere. To be sure, they are a very vocal contingent, but you must keep in mind that they often post on public forums under false pretenses, which in itself should ring alarm bells.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Americans couldn’t care less about Israel, so any Zionist troll who claims to be a loyal American is automatically suspect as being something other than what they claim to be. After all, we are all well acquainted with this tactic. Every agent provocateur and agitprop expert wants to create the false impression that there is a groundswell of support for his cause among the general populace. Hence, its entirely natural that Jewish activists would pose as gentiles, often with elaborate disguises (Catholics, Army Officers, Marines, Vietnam Vets, WWII vets, you name it). Very often there is a single individual posting under various aliases, claims of nationality, etc. to create the illusion of wide- scale, nay, nearly unanimous support for the cause.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-24   8:39:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Zoroaster (#41)

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Americans couldn’t care less about Israel, so any Zionist troll who claims to be a loyal American is automatically suspect as being something other than what they claim to be.

I agree with this statement, and it’s also true that they have managed to inculcate most Americans with a political correctness that causes a knee-jerk loyalty to all things Israel. Lately, I’ve been receiving most of my MSM news from greater NYC area. The amount of anti-Iranian propaganda that is flowing here is beyond belief. So I agree with you. These rats are about to widen the war in the Middle East, based on a perceived threat to Israel. It’s amazing watching this unfold.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-01-24   9:26:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Noted Jethro,

The constant anti-Iranian propaganda coming from the Electric Jew coincides with increased activity of Zionist trolls on this forum.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-24 09:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Americans couldn’t care less about Israel,

This is the only statement you've made that I fully agree with. As far as I'm concerned, Israel is a manipulative country who uses PC tactics in the U.S.A. to whip Anerican's into supporting pro-Israel doctrine. Israel as a country can explode into smithereens for all I care... and the ZIONISTS holding America by the balls should have their legs chopped off and be sent home in a basket...

That said, the fact still remains that the Jewish Holocaust DID happen and it should not have. It was wrong then, it's wrong now, and forever, it will be wrong to murder people for belonging to a group others love to hate.

The difference between us? You HATE them on every plane. I hate the ZIONIST movement in America that cripples our leaders into supporting proIsrael ideals before proAmerican ideals. THAT is the entire focus of my problem with "the Jews"... I prefer to separate myself from folks like you who just plain HATE THEM...

If you don't see the difference, it's YOUR problem. I won't be pressured to "join you or be agin' you" like our malodorous misleader GWB does with the proZionist bullshit he shoves down our collective throats...

Bottom line, AMERICA FIRST... if Israel benefits, fine... Not the other way around...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-24 13:17:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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