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Title: Why the Holocaust Could Not Have Happened
Source: Badlands
URL Source: http://littlegeneva.com/badlands/?p=1139
Published: Jan 23, 2006
Author: Badlands
Post Date: 2006-01-23 19:35:51 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: Holocaust, Happened, Could
Views: 1250
Comments: 189

Having read emotional letters from Jewish writers in the press, I feel compelled to comment myself.

I am acquainted with military history and have read substantially on the subject. One Jewish writer stated that he was not even alive at the time of the Second World War. As another writer stated, there are always two sides to the coin. Well, I was not alive at that time either, so it follows that the only source of information available to the post-war generations is history as it was written down for us.

History has not and never will be recorded objectively, as every historian writes according to his own subjective view and in his own book will try to prove his own thesis. The mass-murder of six million Jews, however, is a myth. This is admitted and proved primarily by British and American authors, and while withholding my own views, here is some information to consider:

According to evidence led in a paper entitled “The Third Reich”, three to four million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz alone. This is mathematically impossible. Auschwitz was in operation for four years. Let’s assume only three million people were killed here — in one year, that would be 750,000 or 62,500 a month — or 2,083 a day!

According to the German Christian Democratic delegate, Eric Blumenfeld of Hamburg, who was incarcerated at Auschwitz, killings only took place at night, for reasons of secrecy — a period of 12 hours. Thus, 2,082 people should have been killed every 12 hours out of 24 for 1,460 days (four years).

Assuming the corpses were buried, and seeing that sand is four tenths heavier than the human body (proportionately), at an average of 50 kilograms per body, 70 kilograms of sand would be displaced per corpse [a kilogram is equal to 2.2 pounds for practical purposes]. At 2,083 bodies a day, with a corpse mass of 104.2 metric tons, this would be 145.8 metric tons of soil to be removed daily!

In four years, assuming there were “only” 3 million bodies buried, this would leave 212,868 metric tons of soil piled up somewhere. Where is it? There is also the argument that the bodies were burned (also a mathematical impossibility). The calculations are based on figures and evidence from the ultra-modern and efficient crematorium at Dortmund in Germany. To burn one corpse completely requires 31 kilograms of coal. The 2,083 people allegedly killed in Auschwitz daily would have required more than 65 metric tons of coal, which was extremely valuable to the war effort — each day. For Germany, this was impossible.

Burning the bodies was impossible for another reason. In the most modern crematoriums today, one body requires about 2? hours to be completely cremated. Even if Auschwitz had had 100 burning chambers, the 3 million corpses would have taken 15 years to cremate, burning only in the 12-hour period each day.

Each body produces on average 2 kilograms of ash. Three million corpses would create 6,000 metric tons of ash. This ash, all 6,000 metric tons of it would make quite a heap. Where were all these ash-heaps after the war?

In closing, I would like to add that all recorded history is on paper and on paper you can write anything, even that 6 million Jews were killed. Paper is patient!

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#69. To: A K A Stone (#61)

YertleTurtle didn't author this piece, Stone. Yours is the stupid ass comment.

christine  posted on  2006-01-24   14:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: BTP Holdings (#66)

Bullshit! Prove the modern day Ashkenazi Jews have any claim to it whatsoever.

Prove Ashkenazi

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   14:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine (#69)

YertleTurtle didn't author this piece, Stone. Yours is the stupid ass comment.

I quoted the article text and responded to the article not anythingyertleturtle said.. His name automatically comes up in the reply since he posted it.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   15:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#71)

in the future then, when you're calling someone a nazi, it would be prudent to make that clear.

christine  posted on  2006-01-24   15:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Bayonne (#50)

The extermination of 6,000,000 Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe during World War Two was scientifically and demographically impossible. In 1946 the Swiss Red Cross estimated between 500,000 and 1,500,000 died during this period. As you wrote in a previous post, the 6,000,000 martyrs who replaced Christ on the Cross came much later, 1978, and it's now become the lynchpin of Jewish supremacy.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-24   15:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: christine, turtle (#72)

in the future then, when you're calling someone a nazi, it would be prudent to make that clear.

I went back and reread it. You're right, i'm sorry

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   15:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Zoroaster (#73)

As you wrote in a previous post, the 6,000,000 martyrs who replaced Christ on the Cross came much later, 1978, and it's now become the lynchpin of Jewish supremacy.

The jews aren't superior.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   15:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Prove Ashkenazi

Do you know the difference between the Israelites of the Bible and the modern day jews?

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-01-24   15:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: BTP Holdings (#76)

The Bible talked about them being scattered all over the earth. There are also lost tribes. It also says they will return to the land.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   15:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#77)

The Bible talked about them being scattered all over the earth. There are also lost tribes. It also says they will return to the land.

You've got lots of ground to cover on this. Do you know there was more than one exile? And which time periods did they cover? And do you know the conditions under which they may return?

As I said, there is much more to this. I can't recall how much reading I've done to find these things out for myself. I'm remiss in my study of the Bible itself, but I do have proper reference material here now if I need to look further.

You can't begin to see the truth and lies of the modern era until you study and know the truth of history as best you can. This is the main reason so much of it has been purposefully hidden from us. We can't know who we are and where we are going unless we know where we have been. It's that simple.

I must go out again. I'm late and need to get some work done outside before dark.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-01-24   16:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone, Buckeroo, Christine, All (#65)

There is nothing in the world wrong with wanting to reclaim your homeland.

The Serbs tried it, but were driven back by the Clinton forces (and the unmentionable Muslim "Ethnic Albanians"), serving the "New World Order."

The American Indian knows how beaten he is. He doesn't even try.

The Pallies are trying to just hold their ground, as Israel runs them further into the desert. Contrary to some propaganda, not all Pallies are 'Johnny-come- latelies.'

Where does one draw the line?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-24   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Bayonne (#56)

The proper title, The Holocaust, was not introduced into the culture until about 1976. In 76, Dustin Hoffman made a movie involving Nazis called The Marathon Man. In it, there is no mention of The Holocaust™.

really?

christine  posted on  2006-01-24   16:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine (#80)

The proper title, The Holocaust, was not introduced into the culture until about 1976. In 76, Dustin Hoffman made a movie involving Nazis called The Marathon Man. In it, there is no mention of The Holocaust™. really?

I've seen the movie many times, and it's true -- there is not one mention of the Holocaust. And the movie is about the murderous Dr. Mengele.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-24   19:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Prove Ashkenazi

How did so many Jews end up looking pure European or American and not Semitic? I know a Jewish woman who has blond hair and blue eyes and looks about as Jewish as I do -- and I have blond hair and blue eyes from Scottish/German ancestry.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-24   19:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: YertleTurtle (#82)

Stone gets off on the 'off the turnip truck' trip...bozo it. It's not even interesting to quiz the account on stunning 'ignorance'...It's sorely time to get rid of the drift wood.

“Yes, but is this good for the Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-01-24   19:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Zoroaster (#73)

The extermination of 6,000,000 Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe during World War Two was scientifically and demographically impossible.

That is exactly right. It is logistically impossible to kill such an amount of people in death camps. The gas chambers and ovens would have been going full- blast every second of the day and night for four full years. Nothing could have broken down or had to be replaced. Eighty people an hour would have been gassed and incinerated for those four years, for those "4.1 million" at Auswitz alone.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-24   19:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: YertleTurtle, All (#84)

Where is it alleged that the ovens were exclusively the death instrument for any population of Jews? Starvation, disease, exposure and other forms of murder were the primary killer in any of the camps.

No one in their right mind (save propagandists) asserts that such a number of Jews died in the gas chambers and/or ovens. That's a psyops angle, only - I don't care who uses the number.

That doesn't alter the truth of the "holocaust," whatever the factual number may be.

Is the "holocaust" propaganda? Of course it is; max distorted - but still propaganda - pre-Christmas TV stuff. Guilt-trip the Christians out of more foreign aid for Israel!

(It works!)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-01-24   19:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: YertleTurtle (#82)

How did so many Jews end up looking pure European or American and not Semitic? I know a Jewish woman who has blond hair and blue eyes and looks about as Jewish as I do -- and I have blond hair and blue eyes from Scottish/German ancestry.

because they come in various sizes colors some are even black.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   20:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Eoghan (#83)

Hi Eoghan....have a nice day.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   20:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#86)

How did so many Jews end up looking pure European or American and not Semitic? I know a Jewish woman who has blond hair and blue eyes and looks about as Jewish as I do -- and I have blond hair and blue eyes from Scottish/German ancestry. because they come in various sizes colors some are even black.

Goodbye, troll.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-01-24   20:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: YertleTurtle (#84)

That is exactly right. It is logistically impossible to kill such an amount of people in death camps. The gas chambers and ovens would have been going full- blast every second of the day and night for four full years.

The math always bothers me too, Yertle. Never mind the inefficiency of the method of death. Talk about labor intensive! Weren't the Germans known for efficiency? I don’t buy the number.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-01-24   20:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: YertleTurtle (#88)

Bye turtle. Nice meeting you. There really are some black ones. I saw it on the news years ago. I think they came from Ethiopia. I remember the footage of them getting off the plane. This was late eighties or early nineties. I never knew they had black jews at the time, i was surprised.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-24   20:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Bayonne, Zoroaster, Bluegrass (#50)

Did you all catch the LF thread that Blugrass posted about the magic Six Million number that was floated shortly after WWI? That didn't fly so it was tried again post WWII. The link was either posted or referred to here.

IMPEACH MONKEYBOY!

wbales  posted on  2006-01-24   22:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Zoroaster (#39)

The low birthrate among Jews is a continuing echo of Nature’s way of weeding out evil.

IMO people aren't born as "Jews" they become one when the reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Jesus himself called them devils, vipers, serpents. He proclaimed how extremely unlikely that they would be able to escape the eternal damnation of hell given their current condition and the prospects that they would change. "Jews" are the enemies of Christ. Any Christian that embraces the demonic state of Israel, is a Christian in name only, just like the "Jews" of today are Jews in name only.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-24   22:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SKYDRIFTER (#85)

Guilt-trip the Christians out of more foreign aid for Israel!

(It works!)

Only for the false Christians, just like the false Jews, which are one and the same.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-24   22:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: wbales (#91)

Did you all catch the LF thread that Blugrass posted about the magic Six Million number that was floated shortly after WWI? That didn't fly so it was tried again post WWII. The link was either posted or referred to here.

It's only a very pitiful people that owe their positions in life to such deceitfulness. I'll give them credit for being good liars though; in that area they are experts.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-24   22:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: A K A Stone (#65)

There is nothing in the world wrong with wanting to reclaim your homeland.

How is it the so-called "Jews" homeland? What right do they have to it? Do you really think a God who won;t even hear the prayer of those that reject his Son Jesus Christ would be on the side of such people in any way shape or form? Israel was established again in 1948 by the devil himself, God had nothing to do with it. God did promise that land to Abraham's seed. Only problem is that the so called "Jews" of today and many other people never have figured out that Abraham's seed is composed of those that worship God in truth and spirit and have unwavering faith that Jesus is the Son of God, and that we are saved through his sacrifice on Calvary and live for him with all of their heart. Those people are the true Jews, those people are the real children of God and the real rightful and eventual owners of the state of Israel. Yes, Christians will rule Israel and so-called "Jews" will not be welcome in way shape or form.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-01-24   22:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: RickyJ (#92)

IMO people aren't born as "Jews" they become one when the reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Jesus himself called them devils, vipers, serpents. He proclaimed how extremely unlikely that they would be able to escape the eternal damnation of hell given their current condition and the prospects that they would change. "Jews" are the enemies of Christ. Any Christian that embraces the demonic state of Israel, is a Christian in name only, just like the "Jews" of today are Jews in name only.

Do you realize how idiotic you sound?

Christ was the KING OF THE JEWS... born a Jew and died a Jew... Like it or not, so was Mary & Joseph... LOL... If you actually believe your bible, you'd know that Jesus was the messiah born to fulfill the prophesy of the JEWS... and guess what RJ? If it wasn't for the Jews demanding the Jesus be put to death, there'd be NO CHRISTIANITY, NO SALVATION... Know why? BECAUSE IT WAS ALL PROPHESY...ALL PLANNED IN ADVANCE... Jesus had to die on the cross as a sacrifice to win forgiveness for all the damned sinners in the world... dead ones, live ones, and ones yet unborn... or did you not get that part about it being necessary for him to die at the hands of his fellow Jews? Jesus NEVER called "the Jews devils, vipers, and serpents"... He called certain individuals that, NOT THE JEWS as a group.

BTW, I suppose that I should clue you that I don't accept Jesus as "my Lord & Savior"... I'm an agnostic (not a Jew as you seem to think anyone who doesn't accept Jesus is)... Fact is, I USED to be a believer, a B.A.C., till I wised up and realized that the bible is a fallible historical document, a great set of guidelines to live by, and the world's best loved FAIRY TALE... Realistically, it can't possibly be true... the contradictions... the mistakes... the absurdities... and you dare to cast doubts on events in modern history that can be verified? I'm totally amused by that contradiction in you... but disgusted by your twisted hatred.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: RickyJ (#94)

It's only a very pitiful people that owe their positions in life to such deceitfulness. I'll give them credit for being good liars though; in that area they are experts.

You give CREDIT to good liars? Why am I not surprised...?

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: RickyJ (#95)

How is it the so-called "Jews" homeland? What right do they have to it? Do you really think a God who won;t even hear the prayer of those that reject his Son Jesus Christ would be on the side of such people in any way shape or form? Israel was established again in 1948 by the devil himself, God had nothing to do with it. God did promise that land to Abraham's seed. Only problem is that the so called "Jews" of today and many other people never have figured out that Abraham's seed is composed of those that worship God in truth and spirit and have unwavering faith that Jesus is the Son of God, and that we are saved through his sacrifice on Calvary and live for him with all of their heart. Those people are the true Jews, those people are the real children of God and the real rightful and eventual owners of the state of Israel. Yes, Christians will rule Israel and so-called "Jews" will not be welcome in way shape or form.

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: siagiah, red jones (#98)

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

Not any off balance that the zionists, from what I can tell. GEEZ this religon thinggy.

I like Red Jones outlook " I would rather break bread with a humble God fearing Muslim, than a Tammy Fay" Mis- quoted by tom007.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-25   0:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: tom007 (#99)

I like Red Jones outlook " I would rather break bread with a humble God fearing Muslim, than a Tammy Fay" Mis- quoted by tom007.

And I as well.

All fanatics, whatever stripe they wear, are dangerously unstable because they focus all their being onto one area and can't handle it if something forces them to question their belief. They must destroy the messenger that causes this discomfort. It doesn't matter what ideology or cause they are embracing: good, bad, or ugly... their fanatical focus on it is what defines them and what determines their direction. Amazingly enough, the profound hatred I see in RELIGIOUS fanatics exceeds that of any other stripe~!!

If Jesus were to walk among us today, MOST of his followers would reject him for not being a "true Christian"... Sad, but true. It is THEY who are clueless but ya just can't tell 'em anything because they believe they know Jesus in their hearts. Sadly, if there's a devil in this world, it's most likely the devil they are embracing. Jesus NEVER advocated the hatred justified in his name.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   0:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: siagiah, RickyJ, Tom007 (#98)

My professional evaluation of you? You're most definitely delusional and seriously mentally ill. Seek help for it before it's too late.

siagiah, it is your perogative to speak agains the bible if you want. But I feel I should tell you that this is what you are doing. RickyJ is only expressing the standard view of the bible. Right in the old testament (jewish part of the bible) it says that the seed of abraham is those who believe and not those who are the biological seed. and it says expressly that the blessings bestowed on the jews are for those who are the believers, not the biologcial seed. I would not say that all jews reject god, but many do. if you do an opinion survey among the israelis, they will tell you this themselves. in matthew jesus told some jewish clerics directly that his father would take away their blessing and give it to a nation that brings forth the fruits of god. in revelation in john's vision jesus did say that in the season of the end there would be many who claim to be jew, but are really with synagogue of satan.

I was just thinking today how ironic it is that jesus was born in bethlehem which is part of modern-day palestine. all evidence is that jesus was racially and ethnically just like the palestinians of today. and look how many of the jews have chosen to specifically hate that group of people.

It is your choice siagiah to be a scoffer and a denier. but you should know that it is your choice and what choice you're making.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-01-25   9:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Red Jones. Tom007, RickyJ (#101)

Right on, Red:

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-01-25   10:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Zoroaster (#102)

To: Red Jones. Tom007, RickyJ

Right on, Red:

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

I hope you aren't suggesting that I fit your aforementioned profile. I did not "call" anyone anything, most particularly not any of the "epithets" you listed. I simply stated my professional opinion about a person whose on line statements indicate a fanatical personality full of hate for their fellow man. That kind of problem requires professional help lest he become consumed in his own hatred! Suggesting that those who disagree with your fantasies are agtiprop disrupters is a wee bit over the top and bordering on pretentious... ROFLMAO... So get over yourself already...

None of you can deny your HATRED for the Jews... and regardless of where a body stands on the subject of "god"... I believe we can ALL AGREE that Jesus did not stand for HATRED... but then, most of his "followers" believe otherwise...

PSSST, the old testament was fulfilled when Jesus died on the cross. The old testament is no longer valid or binding... or didn't you know???? LOL

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: siagiah (#103)

PSSST, the old testament was fulfilled when Jesus died on the cross. The old testament is no longer valid or binding... or didn't you know???? LOL

Matt. 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I agree with much of what you said. Just not that part. :)

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Zoroaster (#102)

Agtiprop disrupters are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

Kind of how you throw zionist around all the time.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#104)

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The fulfillment referenced here is CHRIST'S DEATH ON THE CROSS... that was the fullfullment of the old testament. Elsewhere he states that the ten commandments were written to show man that he could NOT reach heaven on good deeds alone because it is humanly impossible never to break them. Therefore, he paid the price for one and all and laid done his only law: love one another as I have loved you.

You may all believe that I am not acquainted with the bible... au contraire... I studied the bible for many years and was a B.A.C. just like you... What changed? A bite from the tree of knowledge and as they say, you cannot unring a bell... I cannot go back to blissful innocence... But that doesn't mean I have forgotten the things I read and knew.

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: siagiah (#106)

The fulfillment referenced here is CHRIST'S DEATH ON THE CROSS... that was the fullfullment of the old testament. Elsewhere he states that the ten commandments were written to show man that he could NOT reach heaven on good deeds alone because it is humanly impossible never to break them. Therefore, he paid the price for one and all and laid done his only law: love one another as I have loved you.

I agree!! Here's the exact verse.. there were two actually:

Matt 22: 37And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'

38"This is the great and foremost commandment.

39"The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

40"On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-25   10:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: siagiah (#106)

Till heaven and earth pass

They haven't passeed.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   10:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: siagiah (#106)

You may all believe that I am not acquainted with the bible...

I noticed you know about the bible. You just don't accept it.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-01-25   11:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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