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Title: 53 years ago, the Cuban Missile Crisis began
Source: http://microsites.jfklibrary.org/cmc/
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Published: Oct 17, 2015
Author: Kennedy Library
Post Date: 2015-10-17 08:19:06 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1588
Comments: 29

I was just a kid in the 8th grade but I remember it like it was yesterday. The link provided gives a good overview of the crisis from the Kennedy Library.


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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I was just a kid

Kennedy was an amateur at geo/political world affairs, more interested in women than adult real world.

Kruschev on the other hand was an old, hardened, poker player.

The only thing Kennedy had in his favor was the action was only 90 miles away, Kruschev was handicapped being thousands of miles away.

Militarily Kruschev would be a loser, nuclear being his only option. He was not that stupid so he backed down.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-10-17   8:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#2)

The only thing Kennedy had in his favor was the action was only 90 miles away, Kruschev was handicapped being thousands of miles away.

Militarily Kruschev would be a loser, nuclear being his only option. He was not that stupid so he backed down.

Your observation is supported by history.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-10-17   10:02:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

At that point in history, this country would have suffered greatly, Russia however would have been made a nuclear wasteland, end to end.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-10-17   10:41:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14) (Edited)

At that point in history, this country would have suffered greatly, Russia however would have been made a nuclear wasteland, end to end.

I know you are right about this. But, such a great nuclear exchange would have likely brought about a "nuclear winter" scenario.

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter

Nuclear winter (also known as atomic winter) is a hypothetical climatic effect, most often considered a potential threat following a countervalue, or city- targeted, nuclear war. Climate models suggest that the ignition of 100 firestorms that are comparable in intensity to that observed in Hiroshima in 1945 would produce a small nuclear winter.[1] The burning of these firestorms would result in the injection of soot into the Earth's stratosphere, producing an anti-greenhouse effect, that lowers the Earth's surface temperature. With the the the models concluding that the size of this effect, from the cumulative products of 100 of these firestorms, would unmistakably cool the global climate by approximately 1 °C for two to three years; with which the authors speculate, but do not model, would have global agricultural losses as a consequence.[2]

Whereas a much larger number of firestorms,[quantify] which are assumed to be the result of any city-targeted, US-Russia total war, is modeled to cause a much deeper nuclear winter, with catastrophic summer cooling by about 20 °C in core agricultural regions of the US, Europe and China, and by as much as 35 °C in Russia.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-10-17   10:52:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings (#16)

I was 20 years olde at the time of my first A-bomb delivery briefing by NSA/SAC.

One has no delusions after such. We all came out much older.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-10-17   11:07:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#18) (Edited)

I was 20 years olde at the time of my first A-bomb delivery brie briefing by NSA/SAC.

One has no delusions after such. We all came out much older.

We all have points in our lives that can be identified as "turning points" in our development and the way we perceive the world.

I'm not sure what mine was, but I had some very great experiences growing up in Chicago. I worked concert security for years for extra money.

Three bus loads of us went to Saugerties, NY to work Security for Woodstock '94.

We had "All Access" wrist bands. We would go in the breakfast line and they would change the guard on the front gate. There were three food lines, so we would go thru and eat, then go thru again since those guys never seen us before. We would just go in a different line the 2nd time around.

We were doing all we could to get as much food as we could. We were burning maybe 3,500 calories/day and they were feeding us maybe 2,500. One day we ate the night crew's lunch and they had to replace it. We all came out of there a lot leaner, and meaner. The best meal they had for us was softshell crab. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-10-17   11:29:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BTP Holdings (#20)

We all have points in our lives that can be identified as "turning points" in our development and the way we perceive the world.

I'm not sure what mine was, but I had some very great experiences growing up in Chicago. I worked concert security for years for extra money.

Three bus loads of us went to Saugerties, NY to work Security for Woodstock '94.

We had "All Access" wrist bands. We would go in the breakfast line and they would change the guard on the front gate. There were three food lines, so we would go thru and eat, then go thru again since those guys never seen us before. We would just go in a different line the 2nd time around.

We were doing all we could to get as much food as we could. We were burning maybe 3,500 calories/day and they were feeding us maybe 2,500. One day we ate the night crew's lunch and they had to replace it. We all came out of there a lot leaner, and meaner. The best meal they had for us was softshell crab. ;)

There's a lesson in your story about how ridiculous it is for America to be accused of "consuming more than it produces" and its "carbon footprint" not being comparable to third worlders when our Military is being misused as World Policers and our country expected to produce defensive arms and food supplies, too, for nations that aren't sufficiently producing their own.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-11-04   22:34:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: GreyLmist (#28)

There's a lesson in your story about how ridiculous it is for America to be accused of "consuming more than it produces" and its "carbon footprint"

I'm glad you noticed. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-05 09:07:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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