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Title: Trump-Bush feud fires up over 9/11
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/ ... igration-terror-attacks-214905
Published: Oct 19, 2015
Author: By Daniel Strauss
Post Date: 2015-10-19 03:55:06 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 122
Comments: 4

The feud between Donald Trump and Jeb Bush over the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks escalated on Sunday as Trump argued that his hard-line stance on immigration would have prevented the attacks while Bush defended his brother's handling of them.

In an interview on "Fox News Sunday," host Chris Wallace asked Trump what he would have done differently in response to an earlier suggestion that then-President George W. Bush was partially at fault for the attacks. And Trump insisted he is not blaming the former president for them.

"Jeb [Bush] said 'We were safe with my brother. We were safe.' Well, the World Trade Center just went down. Now, am I trying to blame him? I'm not blaming anybody, but the World Trade Center came down, so when he said we were safe, we were not safe. We lost 3,000 people. It was one of the greatest — probably the greatest catastrophe ever in this country," the Republican presidential hopeful said.

If he were president, Trump said, it would have been different.

"I am extremely, extremely tough on people coming into this country," Trump said. And if he were president then, he said, he doubted "those people would've been in the country. … There's a good chance that those people would not have been in the country.

"With that being said," he added, "I'm not blaming George Bush, but I don't want Jeb Bush to say 'My brother kept us safe,' because Sept. 11 was one of the worst days in the history of this country."

In an interview with CNN's "State of the Union," Bush said Trump doesn't seriously address how he would handle foreign policy as president.

"Across the spectrum of foreign policy, Mr. Trump talks about things as though he's still on 'The Apprentice,'" the former Florida governor said of his rival for the Republican presidential nomination.

"My brother responded to a crisis, and he did it as you would hope a president would do. He united the country, he organized our country and he kept us safe," Jeb Bush said. "And there's no denying that. The great majority of Americans believe that."


In an earlier interview with Bloomberg's Stephanie Ruhle, Trump said of George W. Bush, "He was president, OK? Don’t blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president."

"The World Trade Center came down during his reign," Trump added.

The comment sparked a flurry of criticism, and Jeb Bush's presidential campaign has since released an attack ad lampooning Trump on national security.
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Here's Jeb's comeback ..

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-19   3:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Trump Doubly Correct On Bush And 9/11: His Watch, And He Weakened Arab Airline Screening

Donald Trump has done it again: a crowd of GOP Establishment types is frothing with fury because he has pointed out that as President George W. Bush bore responsibility for 9/11

“When you talk about George Bush, I mean — say what you want — the World Trade Center came down during his time,” Trump said.

Bloomberg’s Stephanie Ruhle then interrupted and said Trump couldn’t blame Bush for the attacks that left nearly 3,000 Americans dead.

“He was president, okay?” Trump responded. “Blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”

Trump faces backlash for blaming ex-President George W. Bush for 9/11 Erin Kelly USA Today October 17, 2015

In fact of course Trump is technically correct in his (actually very moderate) remark. Navies the world over, for instance, regard the captain of a ship as invariably responsible in principle for the fate of his vessel, regardless of the circumstances. His observation is far less controvertible than his (defensible) comment on ‘Tokyo Rose’ John McCain.

But as it happens, there is more justice in his assertion than perhaps Trump may remember. As Steve Sailer pointed out in Ten Years Ago–9/11 Remembered, Bush`s War On Profiling Forgotten

Here`s an article I wrote for UPI on the evening of 9/11:

LOS ANGELES, Sep. 11 — Ironically, in an attempt to appeal to the growing number of Arab-American and Muslim voters, exactly eleven months ago George W. Bush called for weakening airport security procedures aimed at deterring hijackers.

On Oct. 11, 2000, during the second presidential debate, the Republican candidate attacked two anti-terrorist policies that had long irritated Arab citizens of the U.S….

Bush said during the nationally televised debate, “Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what`s called secret evidence. People are stopped, and we got to do something about that.”

… In the debate, Bush conflated two separate policies that Arab-Americans and Muslim-Americans felt discriminate against them: the heightened suspicions faced by Middle Eastern-looking travelers at airport security checkpoints and the government`s use of “secret evidence” in immigration hearings of suspected terrorists.

Steve noted that although these remarks had immediate electoral utility Bush did actually do something about Arab profiling and stern policing

…the Bush Administration publicly agrees with the civil rights organizations that even a nonracial airport profiling system that had merely a disparate impact on Arabs and Muslims would be objectionable…To ensure that no disparate impact is occurring, the Bush Administration carried out in June a three-week study, first planned by the Clinton Administration, of whether or not profiling at the Detroit airport disparately impacts Arabs

…the number of Arab immigrants detained on secret evidence has dropped sharply. Hussein Ibish of the American Arab Anti-discrimination Committee told UPI in June, “Two years ago there were 25 in prison,” he said. “Now we`re down to only one.”

He further points out that in 2005 the U.S. Air ticket agent who had checked in the terrorist leader Mohammed Atta said

“I got an instant chill when I looked at [Atta]. I got this grip in my stomach and then, of course, I gave myself a political correct slap…I thought, `My God, Michael, these are just a couple of Arab businessmen.”

Sadly, a very substantial case can be made that Bush 43’s actions did facilitate the World Trade Center atrocity.

And his irresponsible fecklessness about Arabs continued as James Fulford observed in January 2002 in Er…Why Does Bush Have An Arab Bodyguard Anyway?

As usual, Trump is on to something.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-19   4:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0) (Edited)

Quite a contrast in just the picture -- the firy, rarely (thank God) grinning Trump vs the perpetual cherubic uniter. YEECCCHCHHHH on Jewb! YEECCCHCHHHH YEECCCHCHHHH YEECCCHCHHHH YEECCCHCHHHH!

And YEECCCHCHHHH on Trump if he does what I think he will!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-19   4:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

We'll know soon enough.

Doesn't really matter who is 'elected.'

Its over for this miserable place.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-19   4:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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