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Title: eGOP Ryan prepares to ascend to speaker; mess awaits
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URL Source: http://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/politi ... -ascend-to-speaker-mess-awaits
Published: Oct 24, 2015
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2015-10-24 15:04:14 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 184
Comments: 11

WASHINGTON (October 24, 2015) — The honeymoon might be over before it even begins for House Speaker-in-waiting Paul Ryan when he is elevated to the top job this coming week.

The Wisconsin Republican, on track to prevail in secret-ballot GOP elections Wednesday and in a full House vote Thursday, would take over at a moment of chaos notable even for a Congress where crisis has become routine.

Lawmakers are barreling toward a Nov. 3 deadline to raise the federal borrowing limit or face an unprecedented government default, and there's no plan in sight for averting it.

Crucial highway funding authority is about to expire, requiring a short-term extension that no one supports.

And early December will bring the next chapter in the government shutdown wars, with a must-pass deadline for spending legislation a ripe opportunity for brinksmanship.

It's all happening amid fierce fighting among Republicans, on Capitol Hill and in the presidential campaign, as angry voters demand change and establishment-aligned politicians do battle with outsiders and hard-liners. This is the atmosphere that produced Ryan's candidacy for speaker after the incumbent, Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, announced his resignation under conservative pressure, and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., abruptly bowed out. That led party leaders to draft a reluctant Ryan.

Now Ryan, the GOP's 2012 vice presidential nominee, will face immediate — and perhaps competing — tasks: passing must-do debt and spending bills likely to be opposed by a majority of Republicans, even while he attempts to unite a badly fractured House GOP.

"I don't know that it's going to be the honeymoon suite. It might be some economy version," said Rep. Matt Salmon of Arizona, one of the conservative rebels who forced Boehner out by threatening what would amount to a vote of no confidence on the House floor.

But Salmon and other Republicans said Ryan would get leeway for how he navigates the immediate crises he inherits, including the debt ceiling, if it's not dealt with before he assumes the speakership.

"If we get six months down the road and nothing's really changed, if we get eight months down the road and nothing's really changed, then I think it's 'Everybody needs to get a helmet' time," said GOP Rep. Mark Amodei of Nevada. "There's a reason John Boehner decided to resign."

After announcing his surprise plans last month to leave Congress on Oct. 30, Boehner expressed a desire to "clean the barn" of messy must-pass legislation, rather than leave it for his successor to deal with. The debt limit was top of the list, given the impending deadline and the reluctance of most Republicans to pass an increase without accompanying spending cuts the White House is ruling out.

But Boehner has yet to announce his approach, after leadership backtracked on tentative plans to get the ball rolling with legislation linking a debt limit increase to deep spending cuts and a balanced budget plan. That bill faced certain rejection in the Senate, and partly as a result was looking short of votes among House Republicans.

Now, though GOP leaders won't yet say so, it seems inevitable that the House will end up voting on a "clean" debt ceiling increase devoid of spending cuts or other attempts at reform. Such legislation would pass with almost entirely Democratic votes. As of now GOP leaders are claiming they may not even be able to muster the 30-odd Republicans who would be needed to get it through.

It's a situation certain to provoke howls from the GOP base, especially if it ends up being the first item on a newly installed Speaker Ryan's to-do list. Although most GOP lawmakers, including tea party-backed conservatives, seem inclined to give Ryan a pass, the same may not be true of voters egged on by conservative talk radio and outside groups.

"If we have to do a clean debt limit vote on the first day ... if certain people want to say that's a signal of things to come, that it's more of the same, that's kind of unfair," said GOP Rep. Tom Rooney of Florida.

Ryan formalized his candidacy for speaker only after winning the support of the three major caucuses in the House GOP, representing moderate Republicans, mainstream conservatives and hard-liners. But his support from the latter group, the Freedom Caucus that pushed Boehner to the exits, will be contingent on making good on promises of changes to House rules and procedures, aimed generally at including rank-and-file lawmakers in decision-making and opening up the legislative process.

Ryan's speakership will rise or fall largely on whether he can make a sustained peace with the obstreperous group, which has routinely banded together to bring down leadership-backed legislation it opposes or force confrontation on issues like immigration or trade.

For now, at least some of the hard-liners are sounding an optimistic tone of unity for the House GOP.

"For several years we've been dealing with eating crumbs off the table," said Salmon, the Freedom Caucus member. "Now we've got the opportunity to sit at the table and actually partake in the meal and I think that's a new day."

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The Wisconsin Republican, on track to prevail in secret-ballot GOP elections Wednesday and in a full House vote Thursday, would take over at a moment of chaos notable even for a Congress where crisis has become routine.

Am I imagining things or are our headlines becoming indistinguishable from Argentina's?

Help me out here -- is the Speaker position emptied when a new president comes in? Hope Ryan achieves immediate vilification from all sides once in office and doesn't escape it till he leaves. His golden parachute will then dry all his tears, but it could be a great spectacle till then.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-24   15:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

The speaker is determined by a majority of the house members, which "usually" follows party lines.

Rhino Ryan should please most there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-10-24   16:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2)

So he's in til he retires or is toppled?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-24   16:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-24   16:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#4)

Looks like a combo of the play and flick. Would somebody finally tell us why they glorify this fool? Oh yeah Lloyd Webber's a Jue.

The video is one of the worst I've ever wasted $2 on at the thrift shop. Madonna at her ugliest. It's actually an oratorio, not a musical play or rock opera -- weird as all get out. Commercials for the Bwy production always used to make it look full of life -- maybe it was, I doubt it.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-24   17:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

Andrew Lloyd Webber is a Church Of England christian and a patron of a charity called the "Open Churches Trust" to get churches open to the general public.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-24   17:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

They're voted on every mid-term election, or unless one resigns, dies, or otherwise the position is vacated.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-10-24   17:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6)

I'm sure I've seen it re his father (whose music I've played), but can't find a trace of it just now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lloyd_Webber

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-24   21:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

I looked for it also and found no evidence of it in either him or his father.

So how long have you been playing the skin flute?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-25   1:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#9)

You must be drunk.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-25   1:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

JUST kidding!

;>)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-25   1:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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