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Title: Alert! Windows 10 to Automatically Download to Your PC
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URL Source: http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/10/windo ... -your-pcs/#JabLeYQo8hPrQYfR.99
Published: Nov 2, 2015
Author: wnd
Post Date: 2015-11-02 10:25:16 by Itistoolate
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Views: 224
Comments: 25
Not interested in installing Windows 10 on your computer after reading news reports indicating Microsoft will track your online behavior and save your search queries, private emails and contents of private folders, including photos? Too bad. You may not be given much of a choice. Microsoft’s Windows 10 is preparing to automatically download onto computers currently installed with Windows 7 or 8 – without the computer users’ knowledge, London’s Guardian reported. According to the report, Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will become a “recommended update” in 2016, and anyone who has automatic updates activated will have the new program installed automatically on their PC. After it has downloaded, the Windows 10 installer will begin. At that point, users will need to actively cancel Windows 10. That is, if they aren’t in the habit of just hitting “OK” when presented with a prompt, as many users often do. In the meantime, until 2016, the Windows 10 upgrade will be considered “optional” and could still be downloaded if a user has the computer set to install automatic updates, which can be disabled. “If you choose to upgrade (our recommendation!), then you will have 31 days to roll back to your previous version if you don’t love it,” said Terry Myerson, executive vice president of Microsoft’s Windows and Devices group.
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)
The total information awareness police state rolls on.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
NSA has total access via Microsoft Windows Read more at www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-h...dows/#2BqRlJ343otIXKsV.99
Go to the Start menu (lower left tray), type in "automatic updates", once there lose the checks in the appropriate boxes.
I did, if you 'shut down' it RESETS to automatic update when you restart.
Not that it's perfect, but I'm most pleased with this 2011 Mac. IMO, a truly superior OS. YMMV “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Thanks for the suggestion, unchecked. Had updates already disabled on my tablet running windoze 8.1, it only has a 32gb HDD and the previous updates just totally ate all the free space left on that tiny hdd... Can't imagine what windoze 10 would do! Found it suspicious that they were offering a free upgrade, microsoft are not in the business of just giving away free and newly released OS. Sticking to Windoze 7 for my pc. Thanks for the info! Sounds like they're not forcing or sneaking it on us, thank God. Making a note to turn the updates off New Yeat's Eve. Maybe it is time to go to Mac or Linux. How much of a hassle to transfer all your stuff -- if it's even possible? Install Linux on present machine and just open everything with it? Have heard it's doable.
Penguinite is the Linux guru here.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Please comment and SAVE US, Ping!!
Penguinite is the Linux guru here. It's Pinguinite, not Penguinite. John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: How to End the Refugee Flood Wait a minute, it's already happening? http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/09/11/microsoft-is-auto-downloading- 6gb-to-your-pc-without-permission/ The thing appears in my hard drive dating from the time that article appeared. How to get rid of it properly: http://superuser.com/questions/886098/what-is-the-windows-bt-folder Great tool with which I found it= https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack Golly, an official answer from MS – http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8- windows_install/how-do-i-delete-windowsbt-after-failed-windows-8/d15416e8- fd5a-4d4e-b04b-5907a4f6c623?auth=1 I went to do the Disk Cleanup option recommended there and elsewhere, but under downloaded program files it said 0 bytes, and this thing wasn't on the list? And it didn't give me a “view files” option on other categories. “Total amount of space you can gain = 733 MG” most of it apparently under System Error Memory Dump Files. As usual I want to take recommended advice but get lost in how to. I tried deleting the abomination via Ransack which usually works but it says I need Administrator permission. Another picnic I'm sure...... THIS STINKING BUSINESS IS JUST LIKE WHEN THEY FORCED US TO COMBINE GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE!!! Sorry, trying to Auto Link all this even with HREF was a disaster.
Thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Unless you've blocked auto-updating on your device(s), it WILL happen. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
It is, not a guru here but I installed linux mint on Anarch's pc and the subsequent releases. You can even have a dual boot with both Linux and windoze both installed on your pc, that is an option you can also explore to see and get the feel of Linux. There are also different Linux distros. Here is a beginners list. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947333/operating-systems/the-best-linux- distributions-for-beginners.html There is also a lot of documentation on how to install those and with mint, what I remember is that you can give it a test run without installing it with the live cd option. If you do wish to do a full clean install, you will need to back up everything you wish to keep from your current pc. Maybe you can create a partition if your HD is big enough to store all the files you wish to keep and then, go from there. My one-word response to all this: Linux Linux is very user friendly, and there are ways of running windows programs on it if there are no linux programs that do what the windows programs do. It gives a graphic desktop interface with web browsers of your choice, and OpenOffice, which will open and manage MS Word docs, excel sheets, power point docs and all that. My current recommendation is Linux Mint / Cinnamon. I use that and it installs easily. I think anyone can do that without any linux expertise. You should also be able to make your PC dual bootable, so when you turn it on, you choose whether you want windows or linux. That's a good option for people who know nothing about linux and want to try it out for a few weeks while still keeping the option to go back to Windows to get the everyday things done that they need to get done. Once you learn how to do all those things in linux, you're ready to make that the primary OS. Here's the download page. www.linuxmint.com/download.php You can download an "iso" file that you burn to a DVD in Windows, and then you use that to boot up. Just make sure you choose the correct ISO depending on whether you have an older 32 bit or newer 64 bit computer. There are a few variants on the page to choose from but the first option on the top (Cinnamon) is for general personal use. Booting up on the disk lets you try it out without installing anything to the HD. Most operations will be slower starting up only because it's using the DVD drive instead of the HD to do things, so give it some latitude that way, but otherwise enjoy. So for the cost of a blank DVD, anyone can try out Linux Mint.
Thank you! How would you recommend dumping the Win 10 file? It almost seems no user ultimately has a choice in whether to upgrade to it.
I say it WILL happen eventually no matter what you do. All you can do is delay the inevitable, or leave windows behind for good. Maybe you could hang on for a year continually blocking and stuff but eventually, if you want your PC to be fully functional, you'll just have to let the latest MS stuff do what it wants to do. It's kinda like when the "Know your Customer" stuff first came out. It was soundly rejected by the population, after which it was mandated and is now par for the course.
Will it happen even if we use Mint/Cinnamon on top of 7? I love my prsent computer, I spent easily 40 hours researching before settling on this model.
Sorry, I don't have that info. All I could say is to turn off auto-updating as already suggested, refuse all offers to update things, and otherwise do the best you can to keep your OS as it is. And if you are serious about leaving windows get that blank DVD and start trying out linux tonight.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947333/operating-systems/the-best-linux- distributions-for-beginners.html My experience with various distributions has been disappointing. Most I've tried (in the past) just haven't worked well, either because they are outdated and not working well with the latest hardware designs, or because they don't have the robust development time put into them to work with the wide variety of hardware components that people have. For beginners, rather than confuse them with big lists, I would recommend trying Linux Mint first. Spending time trying out various distros that might not work well is just a source of discouragement. Start with something that does work. I say that without looking at the link you gave. Maybe it's got good and helpful info for beginners. I don't know, but I do know beginners have a very high likelihood of success by just downloading Linux Mint, burning a DVD, and booting up with it. Correct. If the install is done properly, there's a 99% chance it can be done without harming existing data. But it's not 100%, especially if it's done by someone inexperienced Linux so.... correct. Correct.
MS Will get it's way, eventually. It's simply something that can't be prevented indefinitely, except by leaving Windows behind. But yes, you can run Linux on top of Windows7, as if Linux were a windows application. That's also a good option for trying out linux. You can do that with vmware player. See VMWare.com. I have that and use it to run Windows on my Linux PC, as an application, for those rare times when I need a native windows environment.
My last puterdoctor gat me installing VMWare Player and said just use that and there's nothing any outsider can change on your HD. No?
VMWare has good advantages when it comes to security. It doesn't change the fact that your windows setup can be infected the same way it can when it's installed natively on the PC. But it does mean the damage is usually limited. What you can do is right after you install windows into Vmware, you can shut windows down and make a backup of the files in linux that contain the entire "world" of that windows installation. Then if the Windows install gets contaminated, all you need to do is close the windows session running in vmware, then close vmware, then in linux, delete the files that define that entire "world" of windows and restore the copies of the files you made in your backups, then restart vmware and windows. You'll be back with a brand new fresh and uncontaminated version of windows. It doesn't require a painful and time consuming reinstall of windows. It's as easy as restoring a few (ok large) files from backup. The only thing is you can share a folder in windows with one in linux, and that's a pontential way for a virus to escape the virtual world it's otherwise locked into. But Linux is generally immune to any viruses that are geared toward windows, and if you rarely share those folders then.... Of course you can also make periodic backups of your windows files, so if you do have lots of things setup in windows, then any restore will only set you back to whatever point it was at when you did the last backup.
Whew -- complicated. I've been blessed with fantastic computer docs, cheap or free, most of my internet years -- but they're gone with the wind. What we did was install VMW on a working Windows computer, not the other way around. Would you mind evaluating this solution -- or is there simply no way around Win 10? LATER: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/12/microsoft- confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/2/
I really know only a minimal amount about Windows. The guy does sound like he knows what he's talking about. It looks like he's demonstrating things on a Windows 8 machine, and it seems simple enough to follow. I do think he's right about one thing though. No matter what disabling you do, MS can and no doubt will do another update thing in the future which will again require similar type steps to opt out of it. It's just a matter of time.
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#3. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#5. To: Itistoolate (#2)
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Some people work hard at being offended
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#8. To: NeoconsNailed, Penguinite, 4 (#7)
#9. To: Lod (#8)
#10. To: Lod, Pinguinite (#8)
To: NeoconsNailed, Penguinite, 4
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
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#11. To: PnbC (#10)
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#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)
For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade.
#14. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)
Some people work hard at being offended
#15. To: Lod, NeoconsNailed (#8)
#16. To: Pinguinite (#15)
#17. To: Lod, NeoconsNailed (#13)
Unless you've blocked auto-updating on your device(s), it WILL happen.
#18. To: Pinguinite (#17)
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#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#16)
Thank you! How would you recommend dumping the Win 10 file? It almost seems no user ultimately has a choice in whether to upgrade to it.
#20. To: SilverStorm (#14)
There are also different Linux distros. Here is a beginners list.
what I remember is that you can give it a test run without installing it with the live cd option.
If you do wish to do a full clean install, you will need to back up everything you wish to keep from your current pc.
Maybe you can create a partition if your HD is big enough to store all the files you wish to keep and then, go from there.
#21. To: NeoconsNailed (#18)
Will it happen even if we use Mint/Cinnamon on top of 7?
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#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)
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