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Title: Rebekah's METHODICAL ILLUSION may be Rebekah herself
Source: James Fetzer Blogspot
URL Source: http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/201 ... usion-may-be.html#comment-form
Published: Nov 5, 2015
Author: James Fetzer
Post Date: 2015-11-05 19:31:48 by Southern Style
Keywords: None
Views: 607
Comments: 7

Thursday, November 5, 2015

Rebekah's METHODICAL ILLUSION may be Rebekah herself


by Jim Fetzer

From multiple sources, the evidence continues to mount that Rebekah Roth has been playing the role of a stewardess-turned-9/11-investigator rather than being "the real deal". It was always a rather incredible evolution from "Coffee, tea or me?" to the straight scoop about what really happened to those airplanes and passengers on 9/11. This is rather on the order of Clark Kent turning into Superman or Kara Zor-El turning into Supergirl. That's the order of the transformation we are given by Rebekah about herself.

Not to denigrate airline stewardesses (or hostesses, the more common term today), but this woman has too much intellectual power to have ever chosen such a pedestrian career. Rebekah is super smart, extremely intelligent and remarkably articulate. My impression is that she has a photographic memory and has been well-rehearsed for her role in bringing the truth about 9/11 to the public--but there is a price to pay, because her story about 9/11 appears to have covert motives with regard to passengers and planes.
                           

During the Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference in Champaign-Urbana, IL (22 September 2013), for example, I had laid out evidence that all four of the 9/11 crash sites had been fabricated or faked. One element of that proof--far from the most important, but significant, nonetheless--was that Bureau of Transportation Statistics records show that Flight 11 (North Tower) and Flight 77 (Pentagon) were not even scheduled for flight, which makes it very difficult to believe how they could have landed at the airport where Rebekah claims all four planes landed and the passenger phone calls were recorded.

Since we also have FAA Registration Records that show the planes used for Flight 93 (Shanksville) and for Flight 175 (South Tower) were not formally deregistered (or taken out of service) until 28 September 2005, we confront the apparent problem: How can planes that were not even in the air have crashed on 9/11? and how can planes that crashed on 9/11 have still been in the air four years later? My surmise is that Rebekah Roth was conjured as the solution to the problem with her rather fanciful tale.

The BTS Records

Gerard Holmgren, for example, an Australian blues musician, had noticed early on that records from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics did not show Flight 11 (North Tower) or Flight 77 (Pentagon) as even having been scheduled that day. Rebekah goes out of her way to trivialize BTS records as nothing but marketing devices, as though the US government did not need to maintain information about flights across the country. She tries too hard to convince us they are meaningless--and for very good reason:


If the BTS records are correct, then Rebecka's story about the planes cannot be true; they refute her.


Dennis Cimino spent six hours on the phone with Rebekah and was convinced that she was not "the real deal" on multiple grounds, among which was her declaration that shutting down the transponder would have made the plane invisible to radar, which, as I have previously explained, is not the case, since the transponder sends out a signal identifying the plane, while the planes image on radar is the effect of radio waves being reflected from an object in the air. The first does not affect the second.

Who is Rebekah Roth?

In the discussion thread about my earlier blog about Rebekah Roth, "Rebekah Roth's METHODICAL DECEPTION: Pros and Cons" (21 September 2015), Jeannon has offered her reflections on listening to her interview with Chip Tatum, whom I know and like. I am a bit troubled that someone who has a background with the CIA would be taken in by Rebekah Roth, but there are too many signs for her to be taken seriously. Dennis had already determined from her phone number that she resides in Langley, which pissed her off when he made that observation. That suggests someone with something to hide.


According to several sources, I have been told that Rebekah's real name is Monika Gainor. She appears to be working for the CIA, which no doubt appreciated her gifts for instant memorization and smooth articulation. She has blonde hair, but wears a brunette wig and glasses to disguise her identity. They have also told me that, far from being exceptionally skilled at research, she plagiarized (actually, stole) a terabyte of data from a long-time student of 9/11 and appropriated his last 10 years of research as her own.  "Rebekah" frequently claims she has "a terabyte of information", which is stunning by itself.


Now, I am fallible and capable of making mistakes. My sources are highly credible, however, and what they have told me supports my interpretation of her role as that of reaffirming the existence of the planes and passengers on 9/11. As I explained at the Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, a great deal of evidence substantiates that none of those planes crashed on 9/11. Since none of the planes crashed, none of the passengers aboard them could have died in crashes that did not take place. I believe Monika has been assigned to skate around the evidence to restore the planes and the passengers as elements of the official account.

Rebekah's interview with Chip Tatum

I am sure that Rebekah/Monika will learn of this blog in short order, so I want to extend an invitation to her to come on my show, "The Real Deal", to discuss this and explain why I and my sources are wrong and why she is "the real deal".  I will line up my sources and their sources to address these issues on the show, where she will have the opportunity to confront her accusers and set the record straight. In case she does not know how to reach me, my email address is jfetzer@d.umn.edu. I look forward to hearing from her. In the meanwhile, here is a recent interview of her with Chip Tatum, formerly with the CIA:


Someone I have found to be exceptionally objective and who follows my blogs has posted comments about the interview, which I want to share more widely. Jeannon has no axe to grind and, in my view, provides a litmus test of Rebekah in relation to her host, Chip Tatum, whom I know personally. So I invite everyone to compare their impressions of "Rebekah" based upon this interview and comment on these issues below. I am sure everyone who wants to know the truth about 9/11 appreciates the point:

  • JEANNON October 31, 2015 at 8:18 AM 
    Random thoughts on listening to Chip Tatum’s interview of Rebekah Roth. 
    Roth explains her coming to the 9-11 truth scene so very late as that she was like most people who at first thought something about the official story being told sounded very wrong to her but she just decided to put it aside or put it in the back of her mind. 
    She made a remark about “retired professors” “who really didn’t know the airline business” and their faulty 9-11 truth ideas. She said she had to “weed through some really weird nonsensical conspiracies”, this probably being another swipe at the “retired professors” who don’t have a clue about the airline industry. 
    There is some indication that Rebekah Roth is a strong supporter of Dr. Judy Wood’s ideas. How strong a supporter and the nature of the relationship of these two entities, I do not know, but this might explain Roth’s ad hominems against Dr. Fetzer but also a special dislike by Roth of all things Fetzer. 
    Roth makes a big deal about her 30 years experience as an “airline professional” and her extensive regular training sessions with the FAA. 
    Roth also makes a big deal of her saving all the newspaper articles and news and writings on CIA etc and geopolitical matters over the years to help her with her writing endeavors. Again, message is she is a knowledgeable “expert.” 
    According to Rebekah.... 
    BTS [Bureau of Transportation Statistics] data base was created in the 1990s just for the passengers. Apparently people, presumably like misguided 9-11 truth researchers, who read those statistics and saw where Flights 11 and 77 were not even recorded as flights at all just “didn’t know what she knows” about that data base just being relatively unimportant marketing type database, and of course again alluding to her superior inside knowledge of how the airline industry works. 
    She also suggests the BTS numbers were often and padded for various reasons and that flight numbers associated with accidents or whereon “terrorist attacks supposedly occurred” were retired and that may be why those Flight numbers somehow got taken off the BTS data set. She treats the entire BTS data as sort of a joke among the insiders and is of light importance and low validity/accuracy of data. [But not of such light importance to Gerard Holmgren who was possibly murdered because of his discovering and taking seriously the lack of BTS recording of Flights 11 and 77.] 
    A few asides here …. 
    McGann [who has also posted comments on my earlier blog about Rebekah] made good comment about we really do not even know if Rebekah Roth is her real name or much of anything at all about who she is and what her background is. This inability to search out and verify new players on the 9-11 truth scene is typical throughout my years of study of 9-11 since 9-11-01. 
    The name, Rebekah Roth, naturally strikes many as the Jewish name that it is.
    All I can say is that Roth is working for the anti-truth faction of 9-11 research. And the plotters or perps or whatever you want to call them are now more and more injecting the “Zionist / Jew” ideas into the mix. They actually appear to be pointing us toward the Zionists-did-it idea but the pointing as usual is done in a dishonest and crooked way so as to confuse and frustrate. 
    The two main areas of inquiry that are of most importance to the perpetrators to hide in various sophisticated ways are the truth that there were no commercial airline crashes at any of the four sites on 9-11 and the role played by Zionists at the top levels of the U S government at the time of the event. Continually and to this day, the perps are putting out new misinfo and disinfo videos, books, and articles and they all contain many methodical illusions. 
    Rebekah Roth is what we now refer to as a “crisis actor.” She lays it on pretty heavily throughout this interview and makes me “run for the Tums”, that is, she causes me acute dyspepsia. 
    Reply
My (tentative and fallible) conclusion is that Rebekah is indeed a "crisis actor", as Jeannon observes, where she is doing her best to convince the public that she has unique insights into 9/11, that there were real planes and real passengers involved, where their deaths did not come about from plane crashes but were compliments of other agents of the government who were involved. It's fascinating stuff--and if she wants to respond and demonstrate that she really IS "the real deal", I will be glad to hear from her. I will contact my sources and set up a show, where a confrontation between them can take place and we can lay the controversy about her, if not about 9/11, to rest. I look forward to hearing from Rebekah.
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#1. To: Southern Style (#0)

Thanks, the 911 "truth" industry marches on.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-11-05   19:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Southern Style (#0)

Ryan Dawson says Fetzer is an idiot. He calls him uncle Festus. I pay no attention to Fetzer. There are serious 911 investigators.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2015-11-05   20:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1)

the 911 "truth" industry

There's certainly an abundance of information available to support nearly anyone's opinion of what occurred on 9/11.

Fetzer may make some valid points in regards Roth's background but by the same token, his no planes position also seems suspect, i.e., how does an identifiable woman get herself photographed in a hole made by a holographic plane?

Personally, I like Judy Woods, her premise is far-fetched on its' face, esp. the use of a hurricane as an energy source for beam weapons but as Rumsfeld so succinctly put it "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-11-05   20:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Southern Style (#3)

You're correct, but 'till I see something better, I'm with the remote controlled planes from AZ doing the deed in NYC. And a missile or drone into the Pentagon. 93 was a shoot-down from the get-go.

I could certainly be wrong about the NYC events, but I don't think so about the other two.

Whatever, fedgov's story is a bad, bad, fairy-tale.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-11-05   20:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4) (Edited)

...a missile or drone into the Pentagon. 93 was a shoot-down from the get-go.

On that, I will completely agree.

I listen to M. Rivero from time-to-time and he's quite insistent that a plane hit the Pentagon, he's even gone so far as to hang up on callers wanting to dispute this. That seems pretty strange, it's as if his entire credibility is threatened if you disagree with him on that particular point.

I used to send him money, on a monthly basis, but I stopped because of that. Guess I might be as narrow-minded as he.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-11-05   21:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Southern Style (#5) (Edited)

Agree, anyone who believes that a full-sized, fixed wing airliner hit the Pentagon is nuts, on that point.

Mike otherwise does excellent work.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-11-05   21:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Southern Style (#3)

...how does an identifiable woman get herself photographed in a hole made by a holographic plane?

Holographic jets don't make engine noise either, which you can hear from both jets as they approached their targets. Especially the first plane, which can clearly be heard.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-11-06   0:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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