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Title: Loose Change 2nd Edition on Google Video
Source: Google Video
URL Source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d ... 581991288263801&q=loose+change
Published: Jan 27, 2006
Author: Dylan Avery/Louder Than Words production
Post Date: 2006-01-27 13:22:46 by valis
Keywords: Edition, Change, Google
Views: 3106
Comments: 156

An ARG reader has noticed that Google Video is now hosting a streaming version of Loose Change 2nd edition (hopefully with Dylan Avery’s permission)

For those who have seen it, this link serves as a handy reference. For those who have not, after viewing, you’ll probably want to pick up a copy or two. (1 image)

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#21. To: Ziporah (#0)

The only downloadable video I find are:

http://www.loosechange911.com/trailer.wmv (which doesn't mention put options)

http://video.google.com/videogvp/LooseChange2ndEditio.gvp?docid=- 5137581991288263801

(which doesn't actually download anything - just a 1kb file)

What did you have in mind?

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-27   18:49:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Starwind (#21)

Not the trailer..The video itself. The video mentions put options.. I think it's within the first 1/2 hour ..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   19:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zipporah, Starwind (#24)

Yes, I'm watching it now, about 16 minutes into it.

robin  posted on  2006-01-27   19:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: robin (#25)

Yes, I'm watching it now, about 16 minutes into it.

Please take notes on whatever is said about "put options", when, what stock...

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-27   19:39:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Starwind (#27)

Please take notes on whatever is said about "put options", when, what stock...

I can't get the video to play, but I'm guessing they're talking about United Airlines:

Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIA’s Highest Ranks

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-27   20:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Dakmar (#30)

I can't get the video to play

drats. i wonder why that is. it started playing for me as soon as i hit the link.

christine  posted on  2006-01-27   20:15:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#33)

I downloaded to my Mac, and QuickTime would not play it. However, I also have VLC (Video Lan Client) software, which is freeware, and that played it just fine. So I suggest trying different programs to play it. See if you can find VLC for your platform (Windows, I suppose, if you're a masochist) and try playing it with that.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-01-27   20:19:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Elliott Jackalope, Orangedog (#35)

However, I also have VLC (Video Lan Client) software, which is freeware, and that played it just fine.

I have VLC as well (on W2K Pro), but it won't play the stream, nor do I see what link is used to download without playing the entire video.

From this page:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change

Manually Download the video:
http://video.google.com/videogvp/LooseChange2ndEditio.gvp?docid=- 5137581991288263801

Which works, but it is only a 659B file which VLC doesn't play either (it reports nothing to play).

So, please, how did you download the video, from what link, did you do it without using Google's Player, and what version of VLC do you have?

Thanks for any tips.

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-29   10:38:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Starwind (#131)

Maybe this will help:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=VLC_media_player

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-29   10:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Zipporah (#133)

Thank you.

Are you able to manually download the google LooseChange2ndEditio.gvp video file and play it with VLC, and what version/platform are you using, please?

I have 8.4a but I'm running an 8.5 beta.

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-29   11:01:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Starwind (#134)

Thank you.

Are you able to manually download the google LooseChange2ndEditio.gvp video file and play it with VLC, and what version/platform are you using, please?

I have 8.4a but I'm running an 8.5 beta.

When I opened the page the file automatically played.. so I didnt play this in VLC but.. here's some info that may help if you want to play it in VLC:

"Google Video offers plenty of free videos to waste your time. Some are of extremely poor quality, some are pretty good. Some are amateur movies of kids joking about, some are about backyard birding. Unfortunately, downloading is not always that simple. If you try to download and watch a movie, Google wants you to install its video player. I wasn't sure I wanted that on my computer though, so I figured I would opt to “manually download the video”. Which only gave me a “.gvp” file. When I opened this in Wordpad, it turned out to simply be a file containing metadata on the movie, including a URL to download the movie from. That URL led me to an avi version of the movie, which I could then download and watch in my own version of vlc (I read somewhere that the Google player is based on vlc). So this could be a way to still watch unprotected movies while being offline. Downloading also has the benefit of a better picture quality, compared to watching it online, as streaming video. "

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-29   11:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Zipporah (#136)

Thank you. Back later.

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-29   11:47:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Starwind (#137)

Don't wanna nag you, but can you also watch Painful Deceptions? It goes into detail that I think you will appreciate. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-01-29   12:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: christine, zipporah, robin (#141)

Ok, so I watched both "Loose Change 2nd Edition" and "Painful Deceptions"

I'd recommend them to anyone who has little or no knowledge of the 9/11 controversy over who is responsible or culpable.

However, to those of us familiar with the controversy, I don't see that either adds anything new to the debate.

As I said earlier, I never believed the government's version and neither video added to that disbelief.

Nor do I find any credibility in the claims that the option and stock trades demonstrate foreknowledge.

Regardless, obviously someone had foreknowledge, as these were planned events and not pilot error, no matter who was piloting. Stock/option/bond trades are not required to establish proof of foreknowledge, and I (none of us) have the factual information of who conducted what trades so as to specifically identify who had foreknowledge. I'm sure the government had some knowledge immediately prior, but regardless of whether that was "picked up from chatter" or leaked, or received as a tip-off - it didn't come from market trades, and market trades aren't needed to establish that someone knew in advance. Of course someone knew, and there were undoubtedly "leaks" but to whom, and the bigger question is who planned 911 and why? I don't believe it was done to have an opportunity to go short on airline stocks or cash in an insurance policy (policies that weren't finalized at the time).

Nor do I find anything new about Larry Silverstein's alleged involvment. I don't know why he said "Pull It" regarding building 7, it is curious, but were I on a jury knowing what little I do today, I would not convict. Everything else regarding Silverstein's involvment, seems standard business, albeit cutthroat business (we are talking multi-billion dollar NY real estate).

As I said, I never accepted the government version. OTOH, the "planted shaped explosive, controlled demolition" theory, while the best explanation, doesn't for me answer the question of how all those charges (250 floors over some 3 buildings x dozens of columns) got planted and triggered without some building occupant catching on, or some "whistle blower" tip off. It's been suggested that radio receivers were used - I can't find info that anyone does that and I question the reliability of such a technique. Having watched a number of documentaries on controlled demolition, they're always drilling holes to get those charges positioned "just so", and then they run wires, and repeatedly check circuit continuity. I don't see how that was done in the months leading up to 9/11, regardless of who owned the buildings. Obviously, as agreed, some kind of explosive seems the best explanation, but the known techniques for planting them don't seem to apply. I've have wondered if some kind of gaseous or particulate explosive might have been pumped into the vents, elevators, core beams etc.... but I dunno.

Obviously as the debris has been carted away, the government didn't want to find out. But then the government's story and invetsigation never held up anyway.

As for motive. I don't believe it was money or gold as some theories would argue.

While I didn't know about the" Northwood" stuff specifically, I'm not surprised as the geopolitical jousting by various spy organizations are always looking for ways to create a pretext or frame someone. I doubt ours are any different.

But did our own government plan it, encourage it, allow it, or just fail to stop it, I don't know. I can imagine other ways to establish a pretext for war (especially if war is the forgone result) with far less complication than 911. But then I never said they were smart, rather I've argued the opposite.

To point out all the fallacies of the government's story, and then simultaneously argue how clever the government is to have pulled it off while getting caught in a cover-up, seems to me contradictory.

Starwind  posted on  2006-01-29   18:38:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Starwind (#143)

  All floors were not rigged. Once the core was cut, the weight took care of the rest. About every 10 floors or so were rigged.

  There were plenty of "powerdowns" and "cablewiring" maintence carried out prior to the event. WTC 1 and 2 fell in less than 10 seconds and WTC 7 fell in around 6 seconds. All three had pools of melted iron and metal at their base. Girders had the signs of sulfication. These buildings were not brought down by some cheap dynamite charges you would see on some cartoon, thermite and thermate were used with some other charges. Pure intell/military operation.

  I know its hard to fathom the mindset of these murders, but their world, military, Zion, corporate vision, supercedes any humankind decency.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-02-03   8:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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