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Title: Loose Change 2nd Edition on Google Video
Source: Google Video
URL Source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d ... 581991288263801&q=loose+change
Published: Jan 27, 2006
Author: Dylan Avery/Louder Than Words production
Post Date: 2006-01-27 13:22:46 by valis
Keywords: Edition, Change, Google
Views: 3184
Comments: 156

An ARG reader has noticed that Google Video is now hosting a streaming version of Loose Change 2nd edition (hopefully with Dylan Avery’s permission)

For those who have seen it, this link serves as a handy reference. For those who have not, after viewing, you’ll probably want to pick up a copy or two. (1 image)

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#38. To: robin, starwind (#37)

September 6-10, 2001: Suspicious Trading of Put Option Contracts on American and United Airlines Occur

A. B."Buzzy" Krongard.

Suspicious trading occurs on the stock of American and United, the two airlines hijacked in the 9/11 attacks. “Between 6 and 7 September, the Chicago Board Options Exchange [sees] purchases of 4,744 put option contracts [a speculation that the stock will go down] in UAL versus 396 call options—where a speculator bets on a price rising. Holders of the put options would [net] a profit of $5 million once the carrier's share price [dive] after September 11. On September 10, 4,516 put options in American Airlines, the other airline involved in the hijackings, [are] purchased in Chicago. This compares with a mere 748 call options in American purchased that day. Investigators cannot help but notice that no other airlines [see] such trading in their put options.” One analyst later says, “I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in ten years of following the markets, particularly the options markets.” [Associated Press, 9/18/01; San Francisco Chronicle, 9/19/01]

“To the embarrassment of investigators, it has also [learned] that the firm used to buy many of the ‘put’ options ... on United Airlines stock was headed until 1998 by ‘Buzzy’ Krongard, now executive director of the CIA.” Krongard was chairman of Alex Brown Inc., which was bought by Deutsche Bank. “His last post before resigning to take his senior role in the CIA was to head Bankers Trust—Alex Brown's private client business, dealing with the accounts and investments of wealthy customers around the world.” [Independent, 10/14/01]


People and organizations involved: Deutsche Bank, American Airlines, Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System, Chicago Board Options Exchange, United Airlines

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-27   20:58:46 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Arete, BTP Holdings, Eoghan, Zoroaster, wbales, BrianS, Jethro Tull (#38)

ping

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-27   21:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#38)

Weird:

"Deutsche Banc Alex Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of the options." The same source told the newspaper, "Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks."

Unusual trading in the stocks of companies that were tenants in the World Trade Center:

Morgan Stanley; Dean Witter & Co. (An investment bank that had occupied 22 floors in the World Trade Center)

The Independent of London reported that "In the first week of September, an average of 27 put option contracts was bought each day" for shares of Morgan Stanley. "The total for the three days before the attacks was 2,157." ---Independent, 10/14/01

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Wasnt Morgan Stanley the firm that employed Indira Sangh.. the whistleblower re PROMIS?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   21:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: valis (#0)

Bout halfway through, is a great presentation of the real material.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-27   21:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: tom007 (#41)

what part are you referring to?

christine  posted on  2006-01-27   21:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: tom007, christine (#41)

What I liked is that they showed a variety of info using logic, engineering, follow the $$, historical stuff (Northwoods), tracing pilots, passengers, possible scenarios; all with supporting newsreels, quotes, audio clips, video, & interviews.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." ~Hermann Wilhelm Göring

robin  posted on  2006-01-27   21:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dakmar (#38)

Thanks Dak. I think I'm suffering from information overload at the moment.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." ~Hermann Wilhelm Göring

robin  posted on  2006-01-27   21:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#43)

What I liked is that they showed a variety of info using logic, engineering, follow the $$, historical stuff (Northwoods), tracing pilots, passengers, possible scenarios; all with supporting newsreels, quotes, audio clips, video, & interviews.

Same here.. it wasnt like the first video.. mainly physical evidence.. This video was much better because of the way it presented all you mentioned.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   21:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#42)

O - Just saying I'm about halfway through the video.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-27   21:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Zipporah (#45)

The narration is well done too.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." ~Hermann Wilhelm Göring

robin  posted on  2006-01-27   21:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin (#47)

The narration is well done too.

It really was and I'm glad they included the Northwoods document in detail.. for that was what first made me question 9/11.. it was that document.. that was the beginning.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   22:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Zipporah (#48)

I seem to require being told things several times before they really sink in. I heard about Northwoods before, but honestly didn't know what all the chatter was about until watching this.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." ~Hermann Wilhelm Göring

robin  posted on  2006-01-27   22:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: robin (#49)

I seem to require being told things several times before they really sink in. I heard about Northwoods before, but honestly didn't know what all the chatter was about until watching this.

Someone sent me the link from the GWU National Security Archives to the document.. I printed it out and read it.. I was absolutely shocked when I read it.. Total parallel.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   22:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Elliott Jackalope (#13)

They can't even tell you how many laws there are that you have no right to be ignorant of, but they can arrest you for breaking any one of them that they decide you've broken. Welcome to tyranny.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't they whisk you away without arresting you, telling you what you are being charged with, or letting anyone know they snatched you in the first place? You just become another statistic for the missing persons list... So why even worry about knowing the laws?

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2006-01-27   22:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: all (#49)

Any way you look at it the towers came down from the top. The other controlled demos go down from the bottom. That buildings should go down upon them selves isn't suprising, as buildings are empty boxes of air.

I'm darn sure not saying something is amiss here, but these are my observations.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-27   22:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Dakmar (#38)

A. B."Buzzy" Krongard.

Yeah, Buzzy had his fingers in the pie somewhere along the line. What does this say? It says if the CIA had anything whatsoever to do with 9-11, you can bet Bush the Elder knew exactly what was coming. And the financing of global terror is definitely in the repertoire of the Bush Crime Family. This would also include the Saudis and Zionists, though the Zionists are still considered to be competitors of a sort. The money power is the main link.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-01-27   22:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: tom007 (#52)

it looks to me like they come down from the bottom--like any controlled implosion or demolition. remember the implosion of the murrah building in okc? it came down the same way as did building 7.

is it peter jennings in that one clip who says, "anybody whose ever watched a building demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this you have to get at the under infrastructure to bring it down." ?

christine  posted on  2006-01-27   22:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: BTP Holdings (#53)

New scrutiny of airlines options deals

This is from Sep 19, 2001:

The Chicago Board Options Exchange said yesterday that it is looking into an unusual spike in trading in two airline stocks in advance of last week's terrorist attacks.

As reported in The Chronicle, options trading in the stocks of the parent companies of American and United airlines was unusually heavy in the three trading days prior to the attack.

That activity is the focus of an international investigation in the United States and several other countries that is trying to determine whether people with advance knowledge of the attacks sought to profit from the trading.

Four American and United planes, along with their crew and passengers, were hijacked on Sept. 11. Three were used in the terrorist attacks against the twin towers of the World Trade Center and against the Pentagon. The fourth crashed in rural Pennsylvania.

Both airlines' stocks fell precipitously when trading resumed on Monday, with shares of UAL, the parent of United, dropping 43 percent, and shares of AMR, the parent of American, dropping 39 percent. Both recovered slightly yesterday, with UAL rising $1.49 to close at $18.99, and AMR rising $2, to close at $20.

The Chicago Exchange, the largest options market in the nation and the board on which United options are officially listed, experienced volume eight times its normal levels in the trading of UAL Corp. put options on the Friday before the attack.

The purchaser of a put contract is guaranteed the right to sell a specific amount of shares at a specified price by a certain date. The purchaser profits from the deal when the share price drops lower than the agreed sale price.

Lynn Howard, the exchange's chief spokeswoman, said, "As is usual, CBOE is conducting an investigation of trading prior to the news event." Howard declined to elaborate on the specific nature of the inquiry. Sources who have agreed to speak on condition of anonymity say government investigators are also looking at the trades.

Exchange officials and market markers in San Francisco refused to discuss the inquiry.

On the day before the terrorist attack there was a spike of 25 times the normal levels in the trading ratio of UAL put options, with larger-than- average volume coming through the Pacific Exchange.

Dale Carlson, a vice president of the Pacific Exchange, refused to comment on whether an inquiry is taking place there in the trading of put options on UAL or any other security.

A floor broker with TFM Investment Group, the market maker in UAL options at the Pacific Exchange, also refused to comment.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-01-27   22:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#42)

I watched the thing all the way through. One thing stuck in my mind.

Flight 93's phone calls, but the most important thing, was the fact that they stated the plane landed in Ohio, all the passengers diembarked and went to the NASA hangar.

I guess a smart person would go there, armed with luminol and a few of those lights, and see what REALLY happened to the passengers of Flight 93.

Either that, or they were sent to another planet via space aliens.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-01-27   23:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#54)

it looks to me like they come down from the bottom-

I am confused by this. From what I see, the towers come down starting from the top stories and colapse from there onto the lower floors.. Seems pretty clear from the multiple videos.

The top floors collapsed before the lower ones - that's what I see.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-27   23:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: tom007 (#57)

I am confused by this. From what I see, the towers come down starting from the top stories and colapse from there onto the lower floors.. Seems pretty clear from the multiple videos.

The top floors collapsed before the lower ones - that's what I see.

Right and if you watch as it was shown on the video as each floor collapsed explosions were seen on lower floors..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   23:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: tom007 (#57)

For more detail on the explosions go to this film 9/11 Eyewitness:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=9%2F11+eyewitness

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-27   23:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: tom007 (#57)

i guess a better description is, to me, it looks as if the source of the collapse comes from the bottom as with any controlled demolition. i don't believe there is any way that the heat from the fire in those upper floors could possibly collapse the buildings straight down in that manner. it would have burnt out and the damage would have been restricted to those top floors.

i recommend watching 'Painful Deceptions'. you can watch it here-- http://question911.com/. Eric Hufschmidt shows the contruction of the buildings in great detail. there is absolutely no way the fire alone could have brought them down.

christine  posted on  2006-01-27   23:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#56)

I guess a smart person would go there, armed with luminol and a few of those lights, and see what REALLY happened to the passengers of Flight 93.

does that hangar still exist? did he say? and if it does, i doubt seriously that they would let "a smart person" in there with luminol and a few of those lights.

like he said in the video, we'll most likely never know what happened, but we do know what didn't happen.

christine  posted on  2006-01-27   23:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Zipporah (#59)

Off sub, what was that http://XXXbuddada.com site you posted a week or so ago? Had a guy doing the ukalale that I need to watch again. If you please.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-27   23:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All (#62)

at http://XXXbuddada.com

OMG it's a hot link, I am not going there - it was something like sublime Buddada (memo to self, think before using "xxx" as a cipher on the web)was to link a video, IIRC.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-28   0:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: tom007 (#62)

Off sub, what was that http://XXXbuddada.com site you posted a week or so ago? Had a guy doing the ukalale that I need to watch again. If you please.

I dont recall! .. It was a video?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-28   0:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Zipporah, christine (#64)

dont recall! .. It was a video?

Yes - maybe Christine, you internet divias get confused in my neolithic mind.

"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially-induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

tom007  posted on  2006-01-28   0:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#12)

  I`ll buy it. The work is great and should be rewarded.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   7:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine (#23)

  The drills that had been run for weeks prior, helped to confuse the controllers involved. Everyone knew that the planes were "hijacked" but no fighters were scrambled for over 40min, and then when they were, they were flown out of a far air force base, and were not even flying supersonic to get there.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   7:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Zipporah (#48)

  I forget what year it was, either 2000 or 2001, the Pentagon had a mock, computer, model, paper terrorist drill that had a airliner crashing into the Pentagon. There is somewhere on the internet the picture and info with a plane inside the ring, smashed up, with military officials standing around.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   7:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Kamala (#68)

I forget what year it was, either 2000 or 2001, the Pentagon had a mock, computer, model, paper terrorist drill that had a airliner crashing into the Pentagon. There is somewhere on the internet the picture and info with a plane inside the ring, smashed up, with military officials standing around.

Hmm I dont recall if that photo was in the video or not..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-28   7:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: tom007 (#52)

  As the explosions continued, the top started to go, and the core was completely taken out, and the towers fell back into, pretty much there own footprint. Every floor didn't need to be rigged, if you watch closely, about every 5-10 floors are being blown as it was a top down demo. A couple months prior, CDI practiced on two giant abandoned watertowers in NY. No reason was ever given for the destruction of these watertowers.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   7:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine (#60)

  WTC 7 was a classic bottom up demo. It had the crimp and everything. Pools of molten iron and steel were found at all three sites, which is a dead give away of explosives.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   7:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Starwind (#21)

(which doesn't actually download anything - just a 1kb file)

The google video site is a little confusing. If you download the google video player and click the link to download the video, it will download all of it to a folder that the video player sets up on your computer. The player itself and it's install program seem harmless enough. In XP, mine was defaulted at my documentsmy videosgoogle videos. It also saves the video in google's video format (.gvi), so if you are having trouble finding the folder you can search your hard drive for all files under that extension. However I don't know if that format can easily be converted to avi or mpeg for burning to a video cd or dvd.

Nothing says "poor workmanship" like wrinkles in your duct tape.

orangedog  posted on  2006-01-28   7:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: tom007 (#52)

Any way you look at it the towers came down from the top. The other controlled demos go down from the bottom.

As to WTC 1 & 2 that's the way I see it, too (top down).

WTC 7 was without doubt controlled (went from bottom up).

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-28   7:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Zipporah (#69)

http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Contingency_Planning_Photos.html

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-01-28   8:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Kamala (#74)

Good lord.. thanks for the link... rather revealing to say the least..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-28   8:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Kamala (#67)

ah! i had forgotten that. thanks, mark.

christine  posted on  2006-01-28   10:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: tom007 (#65)

here's the redo with a different narrator of Painful Deceptions, tom. i've not seen this yet myself.

click

christine  posted on  2006-01-28   10:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Kamala, tom007 (#70)

Every floor didn't need to be rigged, if you watch closely, about every 5-10 floors are being blown as it was a top down demo.

ah ha. there's the difference then between 7 and 1 and 2.

christine  posted on  2006-01-28   10:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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