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Title: Col. Fletcher Prouty discusses the Gary Powers U2 flight
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URL Source: https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search ... 8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002
Published: Nov 29, 2012
Author: YouTube
Post Date: 2015-11-29 12:01:46 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: None
Views: 1985
Comments: 16

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

What is his basic thesis on this? It sounds here www.prouty.org/sabotage.html like people who opposed Eisenhower's late-life peace campaign set Powers up to unwittingly stoke the Cold War back up to fever pitch.

I'd assume wikid's lying a lot here..... but I confess Prouty's jolliness concerns me. He and the interviewers have a great laugh over the fact that the Pentagon had a whole office dedicated to lying coverups.

Conspiracyscope, a good-looking channel

www.youtube.com/user/Cons piracyScope

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   6:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

Prouty was an intelligence agent during WW II. At the end of the war he was at a Navy base on Guam, where all the guns were in storage for an invasion of Japan.

Two ships set sail. He asked the Harbor Master where they were headed. One was going to Pyongyang, the other to Haiphong. They were sending them the guns to start the next two wars. Nice government, huh?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-30   6:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

Yep! Truth, justice and the American way......

www.youtube.com/watch? v=aON148ZNmSI

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   7:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Total nonsense.

Disinformation long after the fact.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-30   9:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

YES YES YES.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   9:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

The Russians always knew when to expect the U2 overflights.

Do you know how?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-30   11:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

No, how?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-30   11:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

No, how?

Elint information can be gathered any time.

Aerial photography can only be gathered in day light and with clear skies.

Whenever a large high pressure was forecast to move into northwest Russia, they knew the U2s would be coming. Takeoff was Pakistan, landing in Norway. It was just a matter of time until it ended badly.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-30   11:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Okay, thanks. I was reading up on it after my previous reply.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-30   11:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

A longer route was Turkey to Norway.

During those years the Turks, Pakis, and Norwegians stood with us. Difficult now to cast them aside.

The Russians had spies on the ground in Bodo Norway that kept them informed of all flights.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-30   11:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#7) (Edited)

Lee Harvey Oswald...

jfk.hood.edu/Collection/W...ssell%20Mae/Item%2025.pdf

--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...

war  posted on  2015-11-30   12:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#11)

Whoa!! Everything in that article makes perfect sense.

Now I don't know what to believe.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-30   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Whoa!! Everything in that article makes perfect sense.

The Oswald as Cold Warrior always made more sense to me than the lone *nut* BS...

--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...

war  posted on  2015-11-30   13:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#8)

Elint

Elint = Electronic Intelligence

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-30   17:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#14)

Elint = Electronic Intelligence

Yes...

As trite as it may seem to many here, unknown brave men die doing what has to be done in the real world.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-30   17:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15) (Edited)

If it has to be done, though, it's only because people like them won't stay home to fix amerika first. No?

What kind of world would it be if our millions and millions of troops since 1914 had poured all that time and talent into fighting the NWO, lobbying to expose and jail the commies IN WASHINGTON, running and helping to elect real people to office, poll watching, leafleting towns and cities against tax increases, sounding off at city and county council meetings, naming the Jue in all directions...... ad inf.

They wouldn't have needed to start a single organization. Hundreds have existed toward these exact goals -- many died a lonely death as other priorities prevailed.

THREE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND in World War Jue alone, friends. OVER a third of a million prime young white men and women DEAD -- for diversity! :-(

In short, Cyni, if they'd all done what you're doing now, a century of much different history perhaps.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   17:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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