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Title: Paging Badeye and BeAChooser!
Source: Firedoglake and The Washington Monthly
URL Source: http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/
Published: Jan 30, 2006
Author: Jane Hamsher; Steve Clemons
Post Date: 2006-01-30 08:40:49 by h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t
Keywords: BeAChooser!, Paging, Badeye
Views: 697
Comments: 118

"From the comments: 'My theory is that a lot of the creepy freepers who post on lefty sites are just low-level right-out-of-college cubicle jockeys at right wing think-tanks. They're getting paid to skulk around and regurgitate winger talking points. Just a theory of course.

Have you ever noticed that a lot of them tend to post a lot during business hours and then disappear on the weekends? I guess that's when their busy date-raping one another ...' I've noticed this a lot over at the HuffPo. There seem to be a couple of people whose job it is to just jump in and leave right-wing talking points at the top of every thread. It doesn't happen if you post at night, and then they won't show up until business hours the next day."

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/

Firedoglake provides a link to this poster comment at The Washington Monthly:

"Hey guys,

I interviewed for a guerilla marketing business that targeted web forums.

I was told that if I accepted the job, I was to have at LEAST 50 identities on as many forums as I could muster (they wanted 100 eventually), with a goal of 5 posts an hour. The posts had to be well thought out, and the idea was that I was to establish multiple identities with a history on the forums, so that when the timing was right a well written but subtly placed marketing post could be finessed in. And regular visitors would recognize the post as coming from a long time poster.

They had 12 people working there full time, and were hiring 10 more. You do the math. No wait, I'll do it for you: that's 880 posts a day (if minimum was met). However he said the better ones could do around 8 or 10 an hour. And they had different "verticals" so there was the sports guy, and the politics guy, the hentai, excuse me I mean anime guy, etc.

But the most critical point was this: develop and integrate the identity. No random "HEY SONY IS AWESOME BUY THIS" stuff.

Kinda spooky.

P.S. Five posts AN HOUR? Sound like anyone you know..."

Posted by: Phobos Deimos on January 29, 2006 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_01/008107.php#810427

To Christine and Zipporah and others who tried to explain all this to me: Boy, when you guys are right, you're really, really, right. I was skeptical, but no more!

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#2. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#0)

P.S. Five posts AN HOUR? Sound like anyone you know..."

Closer to 5 posts a minute!! .. Internet propaganda is important stuff! I wonder if the posters mentioned have gotten in touch with their feminine side with any of their identities ?? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-01-30   9:15:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Badeye seems to post at a rate greater than one post every two minutes. I assume that's a lot of the reason he refuses to provide links, so that he can keep up that pace. And his posts are certainly not well thought out.

BeAChooser's posts, on the other hand, are so long that they're a pain to read through.

aristeides  posted on  2006-01-30   9:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Badeye seems to post at a rate greater than one post every two minutes.

Badeye craves attention. He likes to have the first post and last word.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2006-01-30   15:07:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Badeye craves attention.

And sometimes he gets more attention than he bargained for: Link to one of the more brutal trauncings that Boteye was ever treated to.

orangedog  posted on  2006-01-30   15:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: orangedog (#23)

Good stuff.

What I also find amusing is how often he boasts about his house, Hummer, big-screen TV, surround-sound system, and DVD collection.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2006-01-30 15:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Wow! Babeye was, indeed, handed his ass in that link.

wbales  posted on  2006-01-30 19:15:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

4. To: Badeye, Neil McIver, Goldi-Lox, Arete, Orangedog, Sarcasm1 (#32)

You boasted several times about your business experience:

Stocks Rise as Oil Eases - post #19

I own my companies, I employ people. I have a pretty good idea of whats what when it comes to economic matters, having been sucessful in my own right for over a decade now, after having survived a recession, a bubble burst, and a trillion dollar plus attack on our country that brought my cash flow to a halt for six months or more, and resulted in my writting off six figures worth of bad debt in the past 16 months.

Consumer Spending Rebounds Sharply - post #1

While I'm waiting I've been doing what I always have done the past eight years....make money, create jobs, share the wealth.

Economy Grows at Slower Pace Than Expected - post #1

But profits are up by 17.9 percent from a year ago.

My various businesses reflect this number almost exactly. Tells me reinvestment into companies will be the "thing to do" in the fourth quarter, as well as new job creation.

So what strikes me as odd, is you claim to be the owner of several businesses, employ people, create jobs, and share the wealth presumably generated by those businesses. Yet I note several inconsistencies:

having been sucessful in my own right for over a decade now I always have done the past eight years

So which is it - over a decade or eight years?

brought my cash flow to a halt for six months or more, and resulted in my writting off six figures worth of bad debt in the past 16 months My various businesses reflect this number almost exactly [profits are up by 17.9 percent from a year ago]

So which is it - zero cash flow for six months and six figure writeoffs or profits up about 18 percent?

So I asked you what kind of business you had, and you said (posts #4 & #24):

Several, most involved with the gathering of information from various courthouses and reselling to employment screening companies, but not all. S-corp's and LLC's, measured in eight digits.

But the profit and/or loss of S-corps and LLC's flow through to its owner(s), so unless you're bonusing your employees you're not sharing any wealth.

Further the management of several S-corps or LLC's that are presumably large enough to gross 8-digits ($10-99M) would be quite time consuming, beyond the ability of the average corporate manager with just one such company.

But I figure, well maybe you are an industrious guy. Except that I notice you spend all your time posting on LP, every few minutes, all day every day except Sundays and last Saturday, and that doesn't include the time you spend posting on Free Republic and other sites.

Your Monday-Friday posting behaviour is generally 8:45-9:04 AM thru 14:45 -16:00 PM and Saturday 9:40-10:40 AM thru 11:15-13:15 PM

Never on Sunday

Badeye 82 posts in 7 hours on Monday 2004-08-27 09:10:26 thru 2004-08-27 16:05:53 Badeye --- posts on Sunday 2004-08-29 Badeye --- posts on Saturday 2004-08-28 Badeye 41 posts in 2.5 hours on Friday 2004-08-27 09:10:26 thru 2004-08- 27 16:05:53 Badeye 93 posts in 6 hours on Thursday 2004-08-26 09:09:10 thru 2004-08- 26 15:06:32 Badeye timeout Wednesday 2004-08-25 Badeye timeout Tuesday 2004-08-24 Badeye timeout Monday 2004-08-23 Badeye timeout Sunday 2004-08-22 Badeye timeout Saturday 2004-08-21 Badeye 124 posts in 9 hours on Friday 2004-08-20 08:41:28 thru 2004-08- 20 17:26:00 Badeye 94 posts in 6.5 hours on Thursday 2004-08-19 09:23:15 thru 2004- 08-19 16:05:41 Badeye 50 posts in 9.25 hours on Wednesday 2004-08-18 09:08:40 thru 2004-08-18 18:21:08 Badeye 116 posts in 5.5 hours on Tuesday 2004-08-17 09:13:28 thru 2004- 08-17 14:39:41 Badeye 60 posts in 7.5 hours on Monday 2004-08-16 09:06:49 thru 2004-08- 16 14:49:10 Badeye --- posts Sunday 2004-08-15 Badeye 28 posts in 1.5 hours on Saturday 2004-08-14 09:37:18 thru 2004- 08-14 11:12:56 Badeye 26 posts in 2 hours on Friday 2004-08-13 09:01:02 thru 2004-08-13 11:02:30 Badeye 73 posts in 7.3 hours on Thursday 2004-08-12 08:37:34 thru 2004- 08-12 16:05:42 Badeye 71 posts in 6.3 hours on Wednesday 2004-08-11 09:03:43 thru 2004- 08-11 15:20:34 Badeye 86 posts in 7 hours on Tuesday 2004-08-10 09:22:15 thru 2004-08- 10 16:15:58 Badeye 48 posts in 5.25 hours on Monday 2004-08-09 09:48:43 thru 2004- 08-09 15:02:26 Badeye --- posts Sunday 2004-08-08 Badeye 38 posts in 2.5 hours on Saturday 2004-08-07 10:37:17 thru 2004- 08-07 13:15:05 Badeye 22 posts in 3.6 hours on Friday 2004-08-06 14:41:30 thru 2004-08-06 16:21:37 Badeye reinstated Friday 2004-08-06 14:41:30 So that's 1,052 posts (plus I assume you read at least 1,052 posts made to you) = 2,104 interactions in 88.7 hours for 23.72 interactions per hour, or about once every 3 minutes, assumng you only read 1 post and respond. Obviously, if you read more than one post before responding (but you don't seem to read that much) your rate would be even higher.

In fact, posting on LP seems to be 'your life'

Bottom line, even once every three minutes from roughy 9 AM to 4 PM Monday- Friday and 10 AM to 1 PM on Saturdays (never evenings or on Sunday), you seem like you don't have internet access at home (very odd for someone who owns and manages several small businesses) or you are someone elses employee and you're using your company computer for LP access instead of doing your work, or maybe you really do use the Cincinnati Public Library for your internet access and they're closed evenings and Sundays.

Or maybe you don't have a regular job, entrepreneur that you are. So, when do you get time to build business & companies, manage employees, create jobs...you know, all that 'captain of industry' stuff you claim to do?

Considering your flawed understanding of economics and business and your posting patterns, it appears rather than a company owner and manager, you seem to be, well, a troll, and a dishonest one at that:

Neil McIver had you pegged as a liar here in CAMPAIGN DRAMA ROCKS DEMOCRATS-Breaking, sirens up - post #1731 in which he explained why he banned you.

Since Goldi-Lox reinstated you, you have continued to lie at least to me, as I have confronted you here:

Bush Team on Defensive Over al-Qaeda Leak - post #65

Mortgage Applications Fall For Second Week - post #38

U.S. Weekly Jobless Claims Rise 10,000 To 343,000 - post #27 and post #34

So, your response to my final question in post #32:

Appreciate your patience. Still trying to get a handle on your business scale.

Large enough that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to running small businesses, tax codes on the same, etc etc etc.

Sorry, given the nature of this particular forum, I'm not inclined to reveal anything further. No offense, I'm sure you understand the reason.

I suspect the reason you won't respond is you don't know what a plausible response would be, because you don't have any businesses, you don't run any business, you've never associated with anyone who has (your personality would isolate you from those who have), and you're probably just a day-time courthouse employee, spending most of his day posting on LP, at the public's expense.

Starwind posted on 2004-08-30 20:43:31 ET Reply Trace

Orangedog, I remember reading that. I enjoyed reading it again. I copied it onto here because I think it should be required reading for all who visit LP-- something that some of us still do (but only when we want a really good laugh.)

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2006-01-31 15:34:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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