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Title: People who curse a lot have better vocabularies than those who don't, study finds
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URL Source: http://www.sciencealert.com/people- ... an-those-who-don-t-study-finds
Published: Dec 16, 2015
Author: BEC CREW
Post Date: 2015-12-16 06:56:44 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 3863
Comments: 129

Science Alert...

If someone’s ever accused you of sounding less intelligent because you swear too much, don't worry - science has got your back. A new study has found that those who have a healthy repertoire of curse words at their disposal are more likely to have a richer vocabulary than those who don’t.

This challenges the long-held stereotype that people swear because they can’t find more intelligent words with which to express themselves. As Stephen Fry once said, "The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just f*cking lunatic."

Psychologists Kristin Jay and Timothy Jay of Marist College and the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts (not clear if related) came up with the hypothesis that people who are well-versed in curse words are more likely to have greater overall language fluency too.

For the first experiment, they gathered 43 participants (30 women) aged between 18 and 22 years, and first asked them to rattle off as many swear or taboo words as they could in 60 seconds. Next, they had to recite as many animal names as they could in 60 seconds. The researchers used animal names as an indication of a person's overall vocabulary and interest in language.

As any intelligible American English taboo word or phrase was considered fair game, the participants ended up generating a total of 533 taboo words, including the rather obscure "cum dumpster" and "ass pirate". The participants also submitted to so-called FAS tasks, which are standardised verbal fluency tests.

In a second experiment, another 49 participants (34 women) aged between 18 and 22 were asked to perform a similar task - this time they were asked to write down as many curse words and animal names starting with the letter "a" as they could. They also completed FAS tasks to assess their overall language fluency.

Publishing in the journal Language Sciences, the researchers also found that expressive curse words were generated at higher rates than slurs, and there was little difference between what the female and male participants could come up with. "[C]onsistent with findings that do not show a sex difference in taboo lexicon size, no overall sex difference in taboo word generation was obtained," they report.

They found that the ability to generate curse words was not an index of overall language poverty - in fact, they found that taboo fluency is positively correlated with other measures of verbal fluency.

"That is, a voluminous taboo lexicon may better be considered an indicator of healthy verbal abilities rather than a cover for their deficiencies," the researchers conclude. "Speakers who use taboo words understand their general expressive content as well as nuanced distinctions that must be drawn to use slurs appropriately. The ability to make nuanced distinctions indicates the presence of more rather than less linguistic knowledge, as implied by the POV [Poverty of Vocabulary] view."

Now, of course, it should be said that the sample size for this study was small, but until a larger cohort can be assessed, we can look to one of the greatest living masters of the English language, Stephen Fry, for his view. Watch below as he discusses the joys of swearing, and feel that sweet, sweet vindication. But just remember: dropping "ass pirate" into a job interview is still not advised.

Read these next:

How learning a new language changes your brain - at any age How the language you speak changes your view of the world Link found between low intelligence and falling for pseudo-profound statements


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Uncouth who vent their follies verbally would tend to be more pedantic as a result of this exercise.

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#72. To: NeoconsNailed (#71)

"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow

Dakmar  posted on  2015-12-16   20:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#72)

I dig the 1975 eponymous record -- classy folk-pop they never equaled again.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-16   20:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Dakmar (#70)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-12-16   20:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#74) (Edited)

That film highlighted the core weakness of matriarchal societies, writ large as poor choices in selecting exciting over responsible mating partners.

Thanks for posting, gross as it was. :)

"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow

Dakmar  posted on  2015-12-16   21:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Dakmar (#75) (Edited)

How did you get that out of it?

That is unbelievable and I can't find a thing on it. Enjoy collecting the worst/funniest/grossest evidence of how "enlightened" the "noble savages" are. OK, from the youtube page via Translate: It is a rite of rebellion " pétomaniaques " Komas among tribes. The Komas tribes come from Nigeria and Cameroon. Their story begins 200 years ago , the Komas Northern Cameroon took refuge in the Monts Alantika to escape the Islamic invaders who wanted to make slaves . Today remained free but can not recover their land, they taunt their former oppressors.

If Obongo sees this, maybe this will become the troops next anti-Islamofascist strategy :-3

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-17   0:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: NeoconsNailed (#2)

cussing screamingly funny

Agree; but then the cursing often lightens a depressing situation.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-12-17   2:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Artisan (#4)

"F YOU!"

Has shock value and stops the one bugging you who, if you used PCness would continue wasting your time.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2015-12-17   2:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Dakmar (#69)

I jumped the shark when I saw the first instance of trans-eponymous miscommunicated threads.

"Jumped the shark" ???

StraitGate  posted on  2015-12-17   9:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Tatarewicz (#78)

"F YOU!" Has shock value and stops the one bugging you

Good point. But a slap upside the head with a stout stick of stove wood works just as well.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-12-17   9:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Artisan (#4)

this comes from someone who understands that repression of emotions and/or thoughts, and fear of expressing them, is very unhealthy and disfunctional.

Good point, Artisan; I agree. But aren't we talking about how one expresses his thoughts and emotions? An occasional outburst is quite understandable; after all, the world is full of annoyances large and small. But someone who doesn't even try to bridle his tongue, but continually spews crass filthiness, is selfish and rude. Obscene language is litter to the hearer's (or reader's) mind, like the trash that invading "refugees" are now leaving on the side of formerly pristine German roadways.

StraitGate  posted on  2015-12-17   9:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Did the study control for circumcision?

A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2015-12-17   13:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Cynicom (#35)

So why doesnt 4um start promoting Trump?

I can't think of any good reason not to support him.

Not that he can "make America great again". He can't.

But because the anti-white Republican establishment needs to be destroyed.

I think those stridently against him here are not honest about their motives.

A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2015-12-17   13:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#83)

Not that he can "make America great again". He can't.

America is going down.

I would rather go down fighting versus on our knees like we are now.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-17   13:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Cynicom (#84)

I appreciate that sentiment. Better to die well.

A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2015-12-17   13:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: StraitGate (#81)

this comes from someone who understands that repression of emotions and/or thoughts, and fear of expressing them, is very unhealthy and disfunctional.

Good point, Artisan; I agree. But aren't we talking about how one expresses his thoughts and emotions? An occasional outburst is quite understandable; after all, the world is full of annoyances large and small. But someone who doesn't even try to bridle his tongue, but continually spews crass filthiness, is selfish and rude. Obscene language is litter to the hearer's (or reader's) mind, like the trash that invading "refugees" are now leaving on the side of formerly pristine German roadways.

Very well said, and Scripture backs up your point (or i should probably say that you endorse the Scriptural instruction). i don't know the verses but they are probably easy to find. There is one about it's not important what goes into your mouth, (referring to all the Jewish rules,) but rather, it's important what comes out of one's mouth.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   13:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#83)

I can't think of any good reason not to support him.

Not that he can "make America great again". He can't.

But because the anti-white Republican establishment needs to be destroyed.

I think those stridently against him here are not honest about their motives.

As for me, i'm not 'stridently' against trump,. i'm sort of ambivalent about him.

but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit. especially lately, he has been amping it up. if cruz or rubio said the exact same lines, they'd be demonized here at 4um. that is the absurdity of it all. people are mesmerized by these MFing actor politicians like 7th grade schoolgirls. I would expect more from a caliber of 4um,. it is a bit too much.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   13:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: All (#87)

gee, i'm sorry i cussed twice in a thread about how bad cussing is. see what i mean about how it's engrained? sorry about that to anyone offended. ;-/

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   13:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Artisan (#88)

Dirty words in the news :-3

Justice! In September, federal judge Cathy Seibel ordered the town of Liberty, New York (100 miles from New York City), to stand trial for failure to teach police and prosecutors proper free-speech law -- thus giving plaintiff Willian Barboza revenge for his arrest for writing a "crude" message on the speeding ticket he paid three years ago. Seibel ruled that Barboza's phrase (urging intercourse upon the manure-like town) posed no "imminent" threat and, besides, was obviously just a complaint about government services. Seibel also raised the possibility that money damages will come from the prosecutor's own pocket. [Associated Press via Yahoo News, 9-16-2015]

www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-17   14:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Artisan (#87)

but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit.

I think you're plain wrong.

How many Jews were happy that, in response to questioning the feasibility of a wall, he said "Ask Israel".

By opposing Trump, Jewish Republicans are running a real risk of raising too much cognitive dissonance in the base.

Bring it on.

A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2015-12-17   17:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#90)

but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit.

I think you're plain wrong.

what exactly do you think i'm wrong about? The jew stuff he's been babbling for YEARS, he says he's been pro israel since he was born just like his daddy. he endorses bibi in hebrew, his first ad says he will "PROTECT ISRAEL."

the anti-gun, open border stuff hes been advocating for years also.

So when you say "I'm wrong", do you say I'm wrong to point out Trump's own words and record? or I'm wrong because you support all his stated positions?

This is just a starter:

MORE INFO ON TRUMP:

MUST SEE VIDEO: "My name is Donald Trump and I'm a BIG FAN of Israel" (Trump Endorses Netanyahu 1/15/13)

Donald Trump Endorsement for Prime Minister Netanyahu
Published on Jan 15, 2013 - In an unprecedented move, the U.S. billionaire and world-renowned entrepreneur, Mr. Donald Trump, took part in a video showing his support for the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu and The Likud Party in general elections in Israel next week: "Vote for Benjamin, terrific guy, terrific leader, great for Israel."

Donal Trump Wishes Israel Happy 60th Birthday in New York Times Square Celebration May 13, 2008

In the month of May 2008, on the Reuters and Nasdaq screens (next to the police station) are showing clips of Hollywood stars greeting "Happy Birthday" to the 60th Anniversary of the state of Israel.

Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.'

Excerpts from: Trump Does Drastic 180 on Syrian Immigrants In less Than A Month, His Desperate, Gullible Supporters Don't Even Notice

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to." - Donald Trump on Syrian refugees into the United States, less than 30 days ago


This week, it was reported: Donald Trump says he'd send back Syrian refugees taken in by the US

But less than a month ago, he said what he would really do, the exact opposite! It was widely reported worldwide:

On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon.


Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.:

MUST READS:

....

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   18:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: All, neoconsnailed, straitgate, greylmist, titorite (#91)

Donald Trump Vows To 'Protect Israel' In First Campaign Radio Ad 11/8/15

Listen to it here:

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   18:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Artisan (#92) (Edited)

Donald Trump Vows To 'Protect Israel' In First Campaign Radio Ad

We always knew this was the case with Trump. Now the question is, what can we do about it, and who is the best choice for President? Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-12-17   18:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: BTP Holdings (#93)

I vote for "none of the above". It's far from perfect but gives me a cleaner conscience.

Trump appears to be evolving our way on good things, but appearances can deceive, and have done so quite consistently with GOP presidents going back at least since...... well, don't make me conjure that rogue's gallery again.

There is only one thing to do -- keep the rightward pressure on him and hope for a miracle.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-17   18:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: NeoconsNailed (#94)

vote for "none of the above". It's far from perfect but gives me a cleaner conscience.

Trump appears to be evolving our way on good things, but appearances can deceive, and have done so quite consistently with GOP presidents going back at least since...... well, don't make me conjure that rogue's gallery again.

There is only one thing to do -- keep the rightward pressure on him and hope for a miracle.

that very brief list i posted above of Chump's documented record would make anyone here RECOIL in disgust immediately if it were ANYONE else, any candidate of any party.

But because he's a gruff actor reading good lines, they fall for it hook line and sinker.

it's a very peculiar phenomenon to observe.. (and 'peculiar' is putting it VERY NICELY.)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   19:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: NeoconsNailed (#76)

How did you get that out of it?

Read this, or try to, anyway. I had to quit reading it after a few sentences, it was that annoying

Black Matriarchy: Deconstruction of the Black Family

Count the stereotypes and win useless prizes!

"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow

Dakmar  posted on  2015-12-17   19:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Artisan (#87)

people are mesmerized by these MFing actor politicians like 7th grade schoolgirls. I would expect more from a caliber of 4um,. it is a bit too much.

Martin, I disagree. Everyone here has said they hate his neoconism and hate his support of Israel and sickening praise of Netanyahu. But you know very well that if he didn't do that, he'd not have a chance in hell. There is no politician except for Ron Paul that has ever spoken out against Israel. You saw what happened to him. Anti-semite. Anti-semite.

Given that we're either going to get Jeb or Hillary if Trump weren't in the race, don't you agree that with Trump we at least have a chance to fix some very important issues? For me, it's amusing and satisfying to see what he's done to Jeb! Who can stand the thought of another F'ing (see my amazing vocab?) Bush or Clinton in the WH!

christine  posted on  2015-12-17   20:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine (#97)

It is amazing how many people would rather go down with the ship (Clinton/Bush) instead of taking a chance in a lifeboat.

The lifeboat may not make it, but there is a chance. The USA Titanic is half under water already.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-17   20:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#97)

Given that we're either going to get Jeb or Hillary if Trump weren't in the race

I have to ask, where are all these primary votes for Jeb coming from? Do they, the Bush family, have that large a beloved following, frightened workers, or insincere officialdom? I don't know anyone who likes Jeb Bush.

"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow

Dakmar  posted on  2015-12-17   20:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: christine (#97)

he's not gonna deport anyone, i will put money on it.

first of all people here do not even seem to be familiar with the US Immigration system and they have NO CLUE how it actually works. I on the other hand, do.

I accomplished things that most people spend thousands and thousands of dollars to lawyer to do in immigration court. I dont need lawyers.

people can't simply be 'kicked out' or 'tossed out' of the USA.

every one of these '11 million' which is actually more like 25 million or more, would be legally entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing, with appeals, etc. This is assuming the govt could find them.

that is the law. I bet no one here has ever even HEARD of such a thing.

Instead, people think its some sort of huckleberry hound cartoon episode,.

furthermore, if people here listened to the pro-european nationalist shows such as david duke and his guests, they'd realize that those people in the know are actually WISE to the TRUMP SCAM, they don't trust him one bit. he even said he'd "let the good illegals back in." I pasted it above. does ANYONE here even read what trump actually says? can't they see how f-ing stupid those lines are that trump's reading? Do people here want "the good ones to come back in"?

He's reading his script to trick and sucker the people. that's all.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-17   20:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Artisan (#100)

Art...

I find 4um members to be rather well read, intelligent, non deserving of such damnation and vitriol.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-17   20:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Artisan (#100)

The good news about your rants is that they're contained to an audience of a few dozen, the bad part is they are becoming borderline obsessive. Trump is a better bet than Hillary for countless reasons, all of which are domestic in nature. On foreign policy all these candidates are a push, altho kudos to Trump for opposing the ‘03 Iraqi war and Hillary's deposing of Gaddafi in Libya. So that’s it. If the choice is Hillary or Trump I’m voting for Trump 2x, once in PA and once in NJ. It's really simple stuff. Rage on.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/mooning/rude-santa-claus.gif

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-12-17   20:55:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Artisan (#100)

every one of these '11 million' which is actually more like 25 million or more, would be legally entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing, with appeals, etc. This is assuming the govt could find them.

Says who? Obama? Is an illegal who is apprehended crossing our Southern border by a border patrol agent, "entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing" before being returned? Of course not, so tell me why someone who is here illegally x 6-months would be treated differently than a spontaneous apprehension?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-12-17   21:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Jethro Tull (#103)

Mexico deports an average of 1200 "illegal Americans" back to the US every month of the year.

Trump could do 10,000 Messican illegals very easily a month.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-17   21:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Cynicom (#104)

Mexico has far more draconian immigration laws than does the US.

christine  posted on  2015-12-17   21:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Cynicom (#104) (Edited)

AGree!

Disgusted  posted on  2015-12-17   21:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Cynicom (#104)

30% of the occupants of our prison system are illegals. Further, app that same % are in on our jails waiting trial. If someone believes that a sovereign nation, as damaged as we are, can't deport this subset immediately they're doing drugs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2015-12-17   21:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Disgusted (#106)

We have "illegal Americans" in Mexico but in the US we have "undocumented refugees".

Trump would adjust that disparity.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-17   21:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Cynicom (#101)

Damnation and vitriol????

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-17   22:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Dakmar (#96) (Edited)

Read this, or try to, anyway. I had to quit reading it after a few sentences, it was that annoying

Black Matriarchy: Deconstruction of the Black Family

Pretty tiresome article all right. What I don't get is how matriarchalism is epitomized by a tribe of African savages that farts ritually to commemorate harrassment by muslim slavers 200 years ago. Wild Africans act stupid because wild Africans act stupid. If they're societies are matriarchal, that's just part of the deal.

It must be admitted they've never invented an atom bomb or national bank, the ultimate icons of idiocy..... speaking of which, while this page is still stuck in the 4th dimension, here's a whole page of gliberal nuttiness which includes a backhanded slap at Stormer

www.oddee.com/item_99537.aspx

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-17   23:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Artisan (#95)

Like I said, party politics is religion for most people -- they refuse to listen to reason OR EXPERIENCE.

And they refuse to listen to NN, who asserts again THERE ARE NO CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS FROM NORTHEASTERN STATES and damnably few from anywhere else!!!!

"I'm a political atheist" -- Doug Casey.

"Smarter words were never spoken" -- NN.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-18   0:32:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#102)

The good news about your rants is that they're contained to an audience of a few dozen,

Bwahaha! Dream on!

Maybe YOUR posts or shows were heard by 'a few dozen,' mine, try millions. then you'd be getting warmer. That's why the U.S. Congress, Senate, U.N. DOJ, & DHS, Harvard, JPMorgan, etc visit my site every day. Trust me though, they don't visit here. And that's actually one of the reasons i like it here, It's anonymous and private, even though it's a 'public' 4um.

If you like a self proclaimed zionist who's always spouted about banning guns and giving a path to citizenship, that's your choice. have at it. I've already told you at least 3 times i couldn't care less who you cheer for. But I'm an actual conservative and don't fall for the b.s. Good luck with it though. You will need lots of luck.

You never proved anything about your alleged (completely unproven) cheering muzzies, you cant even refute my facts. Trump's record annoys you, because you cannot refute it. It is his own words. Your jew-breitbart link was a complete joke, i went through and shredded it. did you even read or comprehend any of it? No reply.

This is not a place for intellectuals. You are not a skilled debater. Go ahead with your vulgar ad hominem attacks again, since that appears to be your only armor.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-18   0:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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