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Title: People who curse a lot have better vocabularies than those who don't, study finds
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URL Source: http://www.sciencealert.com/people- ... an-those-who-don-t-study-finds
Published: Dec 16, 2015
Author: BEC CREW
Post Date: 2015-12-16 06:56:44 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 3664
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Science Alert... If someone’s ever accused you of sounding less intelligent because you swear too much, don't worry - science has got your back. A new study has found that those who have a healthy repertoire of curse words at their disposal are more likely to have a richer vocabulary than those who don’t. This challenges the long-held stereotype that people swear because they can’t find more intelligent words with which to express themselves. As Stephen Fry once said, "The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just f*cking lunatic." Psychologists Kristin Jay and Timothy Jay of Marist College and the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts (not clear if related) came up with the hypothesis that people who are well-versed in curse words are more likely to have greater overall language fluency too. For the first experiment, they gathered 43 participants (30 women) aged between 18 and 22 years, and first asked them to rattle off as many swear or taboo words as they could in 60 seconds. Next, they had to recite as many animal names as they could in 60 seconds. The researchers used animal names as an indication of a person's overall vocabulary and interest in language. As any intelligible American English taboo word or phrase was considered fair game, the participants ended up generating a total of 533 taboo words, including the rather obscure "cum dumpster" and "ass pirate". The participants also submitted to so-called FAS tasks, which are standardised verbal fluency tests. In a second experiment, another 49 participants (34 women) aged between 18 and 22 were asked to perform a similar task - this time they were asked to write down as many curse words and animal names starting with the letter "a" as they could. They also completed FAS tasks to assess their overall language fluency. Publishing in the journal Language Sciences, the researchers also found that expressive curse words were generated at higher rates than slurs, and there was little difference between what the female and male participants could come up with. "[C]onsistent with findings that do not show a sex difference in taboo lexicon size, no overall sex difference in taboo word generation was obtained," they report. They found that the ability to generate curse words was not an index of overall language poverty - in fact, they found that taboo fluency is positively correlated with other measures of verbal fluency. "That is, a voluminous taboo lexicon may better be considered an indicator of healthy verbal abilities rather than a cover for their deficiencies," the researchers conclude. "Speakers who use taboo words understand their general expressive content as well as nuanced distinctions that must be drawn to use slurs appropriately. The ability to make nuanced distinctions indicates the presence of more rather than less linguistic knowledge, as implied by the POV [Poverty of Vocabulary] view." Now, of course, it should be said that the sample size for this study was small, but until a larger cohort can be assessed, we can look to one of the greatest living masters of the English language, Stephen Fry, for his view. Watch below as he discusses the joys of swearing, and feel that sweet, sweet vindication. But just remember: dropping "ass pirate" into a job interview is still not advised. Read these next: How learning a new language changes your brain - at any age How the language you speak changes your view of the world Link found between low intelligence and falling for pseudo-profound statements Poster Comment: Uncouth who vent their follies verbally would tend to be more pedantic as a result of this exercise.
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I worked at the florist shop as a delivery man in Chicago when I was a young. The designers were all fags, and they all had trouble with hemorrhoids. The anus is an exit, not an entrance. ROTFLMAO!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I find the jarring illogic of amerikan cussing screamingly funny and understand foreigners do too. Famous real graffiti: 1st person wrote: Gravity sucks. 2nd person added: Isaac Newton hates you. 3rd person added: F*** him if he can't take a joke. Of course extreme verbal vulgarity is another thing amerika is popularizing all over the world via cultural imperialism. Those who've mainstreamed it in this country, virtually all Jues, are held up as defining First Amendment heroes.
It's not surprising that a foul mouthed snarky smart aleck would try to justify his own verbal depravity by citing this "study" that supposedly proves that having some prowess employing crude insults derived from scatology and copulation correlates positively with lexical breadth and ability. The smartest people I know rarely cuss. And somehow all the great authors of the past were able to convey their deepest thoughts without using the language of the gutter or the ghetto.
That made me feel dumb just READING that! LoL. Actually i have found that 'cussing', and in particular use of the F word, was heavily promoted and normalized in the culture, of those growing up in the 70s and 80s. I'm not saying its RIGHT,and of course i never used this type language with parents or adults. But I'll admit I have often said that sometimes, there is just no better or more appropriate word to use. this comes from someone who understands that repression of emotions and/or thoughts, and fear of expressing them, is very unhealthy and disfunctional. it can lead to all sorts of other problems. Using God's name in vain, on the other hand, is completely off limits and a different matter entirely. it's against the 10 commandments. I guess that is why people using the f word does not bother me. I've used it plenty myself. that doesn't mean that is what i or anyone should aspire to. just being honest. Additionally - Using the F word TOWARDS another person, "F YOU!" is also another matter entirely, and shows a lack of Christian charity, as we saw here yesterday. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Some 4um denizens must have extensive vocabularies.
Anyone who can brush past the thousands of American citizens killed by Illegal Invaders knows little of Christian charity.
Anyone who can brush past the thousands of American citizens killed by Illegal Invaders knows little of Christian charity. i wasn't brushing them off or saying they were unimportant. you said that they were more important than my video of trump, but you posted that in the thread i started, where the topic itself was my video of trump. so i don't know what illegal aliens killing americans has anything to do with my trump topic. I told you I've known of that issue for decades, and trump mentioning it is great, but to me, it's nothing new. glenn spencer, barb coe, terry anderson, jim gilcrhist, etc al covered that ad nauseum for decades, by the way where was trump during all of that???? nowhere to be found. he was too busy leading jew parades and endorsing bibi, donating to harry reid, and saying that guns should be banned. LoL. Like i said before, I don't care if you or anyone endorses trump, have at it. Doesn't make any difference to me. You should go to one of his rallies, they are fun. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
It may be true of those who use cuss words sparingly (like >ahem!< myself) but I really doubt it is true of those whose every third word in a conversation. It brings to mind a ridiculous conversation I've heard at the back of a bus a seat or two behind me (n.b. strong language!): Passenger 1: "Sheeit" I won't divulge the ethnicity of the passengers, you can use your imagination. But imagine this witty banter going on for 5 or 10 minutes nonstop. Not only did it make my eyes roll, but wtf, could they possibly be talking about? Real life experiences such as this make me strongly question the premise of this article. John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: How to End the Refugee Flood Where was Trump? Where were
you when I interviewed Coe & Spencer, numerous times on my own dime, for WTTM
920 AM in the mid 90's? And, BTW, why should it matter when a person comes
"online" as long as the conversion happens? Hell, if it weren't for confession
(Reconciliation?) would there be a Catholic Church? Trump is in a unique
political position because of his stance on illegal aliens and not on some
unanswered question you tossed at him as he passed by. Your thread was ABOUT YOU
and FOR YOU in that published articles earn you money based on Internet hits.
The more provocative and alarming the article the more clicks generated. Easy
money, but vapid content. Welcome to cyber space journalism. We're not talking
news but rather ambush journalism that, in the end, adds nothing to the alarming
national debate we’re in.
Fucking A right! Please don't ban me, Moderator, I couldn't resist.
I take it that is an affirmative? I confess to learning a few new words in the military when I was young.
I learned lots about racism, sexism and cursing when I became a military member. I was so sweet and innocent prior to joining. Look at me now.
My late mother was a teacher. I don't think I ever heard her swear. The only time she came close was when I was about 10 years old and she was admonishing me for my frequent fighting: "StraitGate, I don't care if they call you everything from a bitch to a bastard -- you don't have to get in a fistfight over it." My dad -- now, that's a different story.
Ack..... One thing I did find during Korean war, we had NO atheists.
While on leave during the holidays and with a few adult beverages in me I said, "Pass the fucking salt" at dinner in my parents' home. It was a slip of the tongue. I swear it. Dead silence followed. I did get the salt. Edit: Upon reflection I think I said, "Please pass the fucking salt." There, that makes it better.
You're still proud of that, aren't you. A perfect microcosm of what military involvement does for people -- "bad manners". This thread started out banally and proceeded to total degradation.
Not at all, asshole. I'm embarrassed by it. I just wanted to post the truth.
Tom, no offense intended, but if you think that 'freedom4um.com' generates enough hits to earn a dime, you don't know much about earning cash on the internet. LOL. There's like a dozen of us who post here! My stuff is on the big sites, and it gets plenty of hits, always has. Not because its sensational, but because the content is solid and unique, its not simply a regurgitation of headlines as many other alt sites do. That's why mainstream corporate newspapers mention my stuff too. Which, you may realize, is QUITE THE FEAT given my stances on the holohoax, 9/11, etc. I post it here at 4um as well simply because i like to share with ya'll, it's fun, and like to get your feedback. I'm not sure what 'vapid' means, but if i had really wanted to do an 'ambush journalism,' as you called it, i could've stood up during the Q&A when i was 8 feet from them in the front row for an hour, and made international news. Believe it or not, I am actually more polite than that, which is why my training led me to make the decision not to do it. Neither of them seemed like bad guys and i did not want to interrupt them, even though, Trump actually said 'WE NEED MORE OF THAT!" when someone in the rafters stood up and tried to jibber something at him. Heck, when he said that he was practically begging me to do it! as i said before, go ahead and support trump. , have at it. I do not, the'y don't even count the votes anyway. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
i disagree. Philip Giraldi and Wayne Madsen, both former spooks, for fedgov, have both come out strongly pointing out that trump is avoiding the inconvenient fact that israelis not only cheered, but were arrested, and actually took part in 9.11. so this muslim thing, is nothing more that twofold obfuscation of the real scandal, and to continue the so called war on terror, which is a contrived hoax, to drum up support for this PNAC neocon foreign policy we've had for almost 2 decades now. only now, unlike on 9/11. the muslim terrorism is real, in large part since the USA has agitated, encouraged and funded more of it. This issue of Israeli treachery and jewish terrorism is a very important issue to get into the public arena. That is the basis of all these wars, terrorism, and lies. I believe it's more important now than ever. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Don't listen to him -- he's gone crazy. I don't recognize this place from just 10 days ago.
Drama queen. I'd find a picture, but it isn't worth my time.
I don't think he's crazy, just very pissed off and agitated. I can relate to that, so i try not to take it personal. when i first went on the internet in the 1990s i would get pissed off like that too. (but i was in my 20s! LoL.)
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Well will one of you dishing out all this spite explain what a discussion forum's for? Obviously the sharing of valuable information and building the freedom movement. Where does attacking fellow participants enter in? This is something new over that past week -- well, it's been a while. It's SICK. It wasn't there before, now it's everywhere. You want a picture, Freddy boy, try looking in the "fucking" mirror. How's that for some good "shit"? It may interest you to know you're demoralizing the moderator. You people think places like this grow on trees? You're dead wrong and seem to want to find out the hard way.
I'm looking for the ignore button on you. I think it is called bozo which fits you to a T.
Exactly who do you think you are to lay down this kind of marker? Tell us what you mean and why anyone would take you into confidence is beyond me given who you are.
Congratulations, you've pushed the BS one post farther. WOW, almost 150 views on this garbage while numerous real news threads in 4um die of neglect! Such valorous keyboard kommandos we have.
Congratulations, you've pushed the BS one post farther. WOW, almost 150 views on this garbage while numerous real news threads in 4um die of neglect! Such valorous keyboard kommandos we have.
I'm guessing your parents named you StraitGate because as a child they used to have to tell you to straiten up and walk right.
And the reason you're insulting him or anybody is -- what? I honestly want to know. "I don't think he's crazy, just very pissed off and agitated" -- Artisan. Is somebody going to explain why people are very pissed off and agitated at fellow 4um posters all of a sudden? It wasn't happening 10 days ago, now it is. I'm, all ears. C'mon, give.
American Muslims celebrated on 9/11. It happened, it's a fact verified by countless people, from the Mayor, to the police commissioner. Both my wife & I recall some of the very same media reports that I've posted here on 4um. To disregard them to ignore reality. As for Trump publicly adopting your foreign policy suggestions, there would be no quicker way to obscurity. It's enough for me that every vestige of Jewish power has been trained against him from day 1. That he's still viable has left me shaking my head. If the election were today either he or Hillary would be our next president, so the choice is obvious. And you can rest assured those ppl voting for Hillary will have their votes both registered and counted. I never suggested that articles on 4um generated you income. You do earn it from articles posted elsewhere. So yes, inflammatory material is the friend of internet journalists.
Did you mean to post the exact same comment to both me & Fred or have you suffered a "spell."?
Of course I meant it. Look how few replies things are getting while this idiocy goes on and on: freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/latestarticles.cgi And I understand you're a MODERATOR here???
4um's fine the way it is. If I wanted an echo chamber where everybody walks in lockstep, I'd go back to FR.
"I don't think he's crazy, just very pissed off and agitated" -- Artisan. Is somebody going to explain why people are very pissed off and agitated at fellow 4um posters all of a sudden? It wasn't happening 10 days ago, now it is. I'm, all ears. C'mon, give.
So why doesnt 4um start promoting Trump? The alternative is the Hag....
Do forums promote?
Who are you to judge 4um content? Aren't you one of the KooKs who sees crisis actors at every crime scene?
That's not an insult. It's an example of erudition, which is what this thread was about. His momma named him StraitGate, ah'ma call him StraitGate. You know, to walk with a certain gait.
Does this further abuse means there are further going to be no answers to my questions?
See? You have no answers, just more of the same "shit". ERUDITION? What are you "on"?
I'm not quite ready to promote Trump, but he's got my attention. The jury's still out, for now. Let's see where he takes us, Cyni. Hopefully, it won't be to war. Btw, when did JT become a mod?
I've both answered AND exposed you and it's very unbecoming.
In your own fevered imagination. Look how few replies things are getting while this idiocy goes on and on:
If it's answers you seek, go talk to the Lama.
Should Hillary win 4um won't exist, so I consider this our last hope to stop the flood of socialism.
OK, since you insist. Help us with this.....
Yeah, sarcasm -- really hip. But look how few replies things are getting while this idiocy goes on and on:
That's easy -- if you believe the SPLC we really are on different planets. I wrote a 4- part (or was it 8) series of articles for the Nationalist Times exposing the piece's inaccuracies. Nice congratulations came from around the country when that smear job appeared. My picture was with that article but the fiends took it off after we appropriated it.
wow, if he made the SPLC list that's something to be quite PROUD of, in my opinion. It means he's EFFECTIVE in fighting the real enemy (and it ain't cheering muslims.) ;-)
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Thank you, Martisan. It was a great day, and on the 10th anniversary of it I sent an engraved announcement to friends, family AND the SPLC...... just kidding :-3
it's not really anything new. this 4um, from what i understand, was a spin-off of another or two or three forums, and there have been spin-offs from this one too. it's simply human nature. as far as spiteful attacks, you're right, it is sick. People get too riled up over all this stuff. you ought to see some of the flame wars etc that were around here especially when the 4um was more busy and had more posters. many people have self-expelled from this place, some got booted. sometimes they give dramatic farewells, sometimes not, and sometimes they leave and come back a dozen times. Very melodramatic. The good thing is, posting or reading stuff on the internet is probably the least important thing anyone does. It's little more than an amusing diversion. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
If you call selling bogus law classes to dimwitted rubes "fighting the real enemy" we have very different ideas on effective fighting, not to mention the stupidity of loading local courts up w/bogus liens.
Thanks for those reminders, but I must disagree. The gliberal establishment is furious about sites just like this one -- how many links have we shared on their plans to throttle the internet! 4um is better than 90% in terms of quality in my experience, it's a priceless resource for not only learning and A-C-T-I-O-N but fantastic cameraderie except for these rare werewolf episodes. I think every one of us regards 4um as a needed hangout for true freedom lovers -- well prolly them too deep down. As I've said, for me it fills a huge gap left when the Nationalist Times forum folded. Incidentally you sports fans might enjoy its replacement IN ADDITION TO 4um: www.castefootball.us/forums/a ctivity.php The purely socio-political thread is called Don's Pub -- can't lay hands on it just now.
You go on smearing and obsessing all you want over it, and we'll go on freeing the oppressed. Say hello to Morris!
Hey professor, do 4um members get a discount?
The status of this country is this... The horse is out of the barn, the barn is afire, the insurance has been cancelled, the firemen are laid off. It is now crunch time. All one has to do is take a look at what is available, time is running out.
If they're veterans, as a matter of fact they do. Want to sign up for the next tax court seminar?
It's little more than an amusing diversion. Is that your personal appreciation of the internet or are you speaking for everyone?
Just so we're clear, I wouldn't touch you, or anything you're involved in, with a 10' pole.
its my opinion of 'internet forums.' thats why people should not become too invested in them. the internet in general, on the other hand, (which forums and social media can be a part of, if people use them) is a very powerful tool of influence for society at large. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Well, spend the rest of the year on your new shiny new Hate NN project if you like. I'm told you normally return to your regular forum persona after working out your demons.
No hate in me, it's about trust.
OK..Your original did not specify...forums... On forums I have met and jousted with some very interesting and intelligent people.
This is Mr. Moser???? ""The remarkable thing about Ginger's threat was that it was anything but remarkable. Since the 1980s, a coalition of common-law "Patriots," far-right Christian activists, neo-Confederates and "not-in-my-backyard" reactionaries have waged a spirited war against county officials working to bring good government and New South prosperity to this traditionally turbulent slice of upstate South Carolina."""
I hope they're successful in restoring our rich Southern heritage, but pitching legal remedies to rubes never ends well.
Mr. Moser and his ilk should move to NYC or Tel Aviv where they would be more at home.
+1 Well said.
I didn't take it as an insult at all, thanks. As a child I did need a lot of correcting -- probably more than average. When my first grade teacher came to the house to meet with my mother, I surreptitiously listened in through the air vent. I almost laughed out loud when, after she told my mother "Sometimes StraitGate throws awful temper tantrums", my mother feigned astonishment: "Really? MY StraitGate?" That really is a precious memory, as my mother died suddenly and unexpectedly a few days after my birthday last spring. BTW, my 4um moniker alludes to Matthew 7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I jumped the shark when I saw the first instance of trans-eponymous miscommunicated threads.
"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
"Swear" words are really nothing more than Saxon words that the Norman conquerers deemed vulgar. Fart jokes, however... Now that's some high French Culture right there! "Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
TEMTs, the hounds of cyberspace :-]
"Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
I dig the 1975 eponymous record -- classy folk-pop they never equaled again.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
That film highlighted the core weakness of matriarchal societies, writ large as poor choices in selecting exciting over responsible mating partners. Thanks for posting, gross as it was. :) "Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
How did you get that out of it? That is unbelievable and I can't find a thing on it. Enjoy collecting the worst/funniest/grossest evidence of how "enlightened" the "noble savages" are. OK, from the youtube page via Translate: It is a rite of rebellion " pétomaniaques " Komas among tribes. The Komas tribes come from Nigeria and Cameroon. Their story begins 200 years ago , the Komas Northern Cameroon took refuge in the Monts Alantika to escape the Islamic invaders who wanted to make slaves . Today remained free but can not recover their land, they taunt their former oppressors. If Obongo sees this, maybe this will become the troops next anti-Islamofascist strategy :-3
Agree; but then the cursing often lightens a depressing situation.
Has shock value and stops the one bugging you who, if you used PCness would continue wasting your time.
"Jumped the shark" ???
Good point. But a slap upside the head with a stout stick of stove wood works just as well.
Good point, Artisan; I agree. But aren't we talking about how one expresses his thoughts and emotions? An occasional outburst is quite understandable; after all, the world is full of annoyances large and small. But someone who doesn't even try to bridle his tongue, but continually spews crass filthiness, is selfish and rude. Obscene language is litter to the hearer's (or reader's) mind, like the trash that invading "refugees" are now leaving on the side of formerly pristine German roadways.
Did the study control for circumcision?
A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
I can't think of any good reason not to support him. Not that he can "make America great again". He can't. But because the anti-white Republican establishment needs to be destroyed. I think those stridently against him here are not honest about their motives. A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
America is going down. I would rather go down fighting versus on our knees like we are now.
I appreciate that sentiment. Better to die well.
A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
Good point, Artisan; I agree. But aren't we talking about how one expresses his thoughts and emotions? An occasional outburst is quite understandable; after all, the world is full of annoyances large and small. But someone who doesn't even try to bridle his tongue, but continually spews crass filthiness, is selfish and rude. Obscene language is litter to the hearer's (or reader's) mind, like the trash that invading "refugees" are now leaving on the side of formerly pristine German roadways. Very well said, and Scripture backs up your point (or i should probably say that you endorse the Scriptural instruction). i don't know the verses but they are probably easy to find. There is one about it's not important what goes into your mouth, (referring to all the Jewish rules,) but rather, it's important what comes out of one's mouth. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Not that he can "make America great again". He can't. But because the anti-white Republican establishment needs to be destroyed. I think those stridently against him here are not honest about their motives. As for me, i'm not 'stridently' against trump,. i'm sort of ambivalent about him. but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit. especially lately, he has been amping it up. if cruz or rubio said the exact same lines, they'd be demonized here at 4um. that is the absurdity of it all. people are mesmerized by these MFing actor politicians like 7th grade schoolgirls. I would expect more from a caliber of 4um,. it is a bit too much. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
gee, i'm sorry i cussed twice in a thread about how bad cussing is. see what i mean about how it's engrained? sorry about that to anyone offended. ;-/
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Dirty words in the news :-3 Justice! In September, federal judge Cathy Seibel ordered the town of Liberty, New York (100 miles from New York City), to stand trial for failure to teach police and prosecutors proper free-speech law -- thus giving plaintiff Willian Barboza revenge for his arrest for writing a "crude" message on the speeding ticket he paid three years ago. Seibel ruled that Barboza's phrase (urging intercourse upon the manure-like town) posed no "imminent" threat and, besides, was obviously just a complaint about government services. Seibel also raised the possibility that money damages will come from the prosecutor's own pocket. [Associated Press via Yahoo News, 9-16-2015]
I think you're plain wrong. How many Jews were happy that, in response to questioning the feasibility of a wall, he said "Ask Israel". By opposing Trump, Jewish Republicans are running a real risk of raising too much cognitive dissonance in the base. Bring it on. A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
I think you're plain wrong. what exactly do you think i'm wrong about? The jew stuff he's been babbling for YEARS, he says he's been pro israel since he was born just like his daddy. he endorses bibi in hebrew, his first ad says he will "PROTECT ISRAEL." the anti-gun, open border stuff hes been advocating for years also. So when you say "I'm wrong", do you say I'm wrong to point out Trump's own words and record? or I'm wrong because you support all his stated positions? This is just a starter: MORE INFO ON TRUMP: MUST SEE VIDEO: "My name is Donald Trump and I'm a BIG FAN of Israel" (Trump Endorses Netanyahu 1/15/13) Donal Trump Wishes Israel Happy 60th Birthday in New York Times Square Celebration May 13, 2008 Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.' Pro-Choice! Pro Amnesy! Pro Oprah! All The Reasons You Should Not Vote For Donald Trump Excerpts from: Trump Does Drastic 180 on Syrian Immigrants In less Than A Month, His Desperate, Gullible Supporters Don't Even Notice But less than a month ago, he said what he would really do, the exact opposite! It was widely reported worldwide: On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon. Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.: MUST READS: .... "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Donald Trump Vows To 'Protect Israel' In First Campaign Radio Ad 11/8/15 Listen to it here: "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
We always knew this was the case with Trump. Now the question is, what can we do about it, and who is the best choice for President? Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I vote for "none of the above". It's far from perfect but gives me a cleaner conscience. Trump appears to be evolving our way on good things, but appearances can deceive, and have done so quite consistently with GOP presidents going back at least since...... well, don't make me conjure that rogue's gallery again. There is only one thing to do -- keep the rightward pressure on him and hope for a miracle.
Trump appears to be evolving our way on good things, but appearances can deceive, and have done so quite consistently with GOP presidents going back at least since...... well, don't make me conjure that rogue's gallery again. There is only one thing to do -- keep the rightward pressure on him and hope for a miracle. that very brief list i posted above of Chump's documented record would make anyone here RECOIL in disgust immediately if it were ANYONE else, any candidate of any party. But because he's a gruff actor reading good lines, they fall for it hook line and sinker. it's a very peculiar phenomenon to observe.. (and 'peculiar' is putting it VERY NICELY.) "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Read this, or try to, anyway. I had to quit reading it after a few sentences, it was that annoying Black Matriarchy: Deconstruction of the Black Family Count the stereotypes and win useless prizes! "Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
Martin, I disagree. Everyone here has said they hate his neoconism and hate his support of Israel and sickening praise of Netanyahu. But you know very well that if he didn't do that, he'd not have a chance in hell. There is no politician except for Ron Paul that has ever spoken out against Israel. You saw what happened to him. Anti-semite. Anti-semite. Given that we're either going to get Jeb or Hillary if Trump weren't in the race, don't you agree that with Trump we at least have a chance to fix some very important issues? For me, it's amusing and satisfying to see what he's done to Jeb! Who can stand the thought of another F'ing (see my amazing vocab?) Bush or Clinton in the WH!
It is amazing how many people would rather go down with the ship (Clinton/Bush) instead of taking a chance in a lifeboat. The lifeboat may not make it, but there is a chance. The USA Titanic is half under water already.
I have to ask, where are all these primary votes for Jeb coming from? Do they, the Bush family, have that large a beloved following, frightened workers, or insincere officialdom? I don't know anyone who likes Jeb Bush. "Besides, I was anxious to take the wheel, the man in pink pyjamas showing himself a hopeless duffer at the business." - Marlow
he's not gonna deport anyone, i will put money on it. first of all people here do not even seem to be familiar with the US Immigration system and they have NO CLUE how it actually works. I on the other hand, do. I accomplished things that most people spend thousands and thousands of dollars to lawyer to do in immigration court. I dont need lawyers. people can't simply be 'kicked out' or 'tossed out' of the USA. every one of these '11 million' which is actually more like 25 million or more, would be legally entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing, with appeals, etc. This is assuming the govt could find them. that is the law. I bet no one here has ever even HEARD of such a thing. Instead, people think its some sort of huckleberry hound cartoon episode,. furthermore, if people here listened to the pro-european nationalist shows such as david duke and his guests, they'd realize that those people in the know are actually WISE to the TRUMP SCAM, they don't trust him one bit. he even said he'd "let the good illegals back in." I pasted it above. does ANYONE here even read what trump actually says? can't they see how f-ing stupid those lines are that trump's reading? Do people here want "the good ones to come back in"? He's reading his script to trick and sucker the people. that's all. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Art... I find 4um members to be rather well read, intelligent, non deserving of such damnation and vitriol.
The good news about your rants is that they're contained to an audience of a few
dozen, the bad part is they are becoming borderline obsessive. Trump is a better
bet than Hillary for countless reasons, all of which are domestic in nature. On
foreign policy all these candidates are a push, altho kudos to Trump for
opposing the ‘03 Iraqi war and Hillary's deposing of Gaddafi in Libya. So that’s
it. If the choice is Hillary or Trump I’m voting for Trump 2x, once in PA and
once in NJ. It's really simple stuff. Rage on. http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/mooning/rude-santa-claus.gif
Says who? Obama? Is an illegal who is apprehended crossing our Southern border by a border patrol agent, "entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing" before being returned? Of course not, so tell me why someone who is here illegally x 6-months would be treated differently than a spontaneous apprehension? Mexico deports an average of 1200 "illegal Americans" back to the US every month of the year. Trump could do 10,000 Messican illegals very easily a month.
Mexico has far more draconian immigration laws than does the US.
AGree!
30% of the occupants of our prison system are illegals. Further, app that same %
are in on our jails waiting trial. If someone believes that a sovereign nation,
as damaged as we are, can't deport this subset immediately they're doing drugs.
We have "illegal Americans" in Mexico but in the US we have "undocumented refugees". Trump would adjust that disparity.
Damnation and vitriol????
Black Matriarchy: Deconstruction of the Black Family Pretty tiresome article all right. What I don't get is how matriarchalism is epitomized by a tribe of African savages that farts ritually to commemorate harrassment by muslim slavers 200 years ago. Wild Africans act stupid because wild Africans act stupid. If they're societies are matriarchal, that's just part of the deal. It must be admitted they've never invented an atom bomb or national bank, the ultimate icons of idiocy..... speaking of which, while this page is still stuck in the 4th dimension, here's a whole page of gliberal nuttiness which includes a backhanded slap at Stormer
Like I said, party politics is religion for most people -- they refuse to listen to reason OR EXPERIENCE. And they refuse to listen to NN, who asserts again THERE ARE NO CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS FROM NORTHEASTERN STATES and damnably few from anywhere else!!!! "I'm a political atheist" -- Doug Casey. "Smarter words were never spoken" -- NN.
Bwahaha! Dream on! Maybe YOUR posts or shows were heard by 'a few dozen,' mine, try millions. then you'd be getting warmer. That's why the U.S. Congress, Senate, U.N. DOJ, & DHS, Harvard, JPMorgan, etc visit my site every day. Trust me though, they don't visit here. And that's actually one of the reasons i like it here, It's anonymous and private, even though it's a 'public' 4um. If you like a self proclaimed zionist who's always spouted about banning guns and giving a path to citizenship, that's your choice. have at it. I've already told you at least 3 times i couldn't care less who you cheer for. But I'm an actual conservative and don't fall for the b.s. Good luck with it though. You will need lots of luck. You never proved anything about your alleged (completely unproven) cheering muzzies, you cant even refute my facts. Trump's record annoys you, because you cannot refute it. It is his own words. Your jew-breitbart link was a complete joke, i went through and shredded it. did you even read or comprehend any of it? No reply. This is not a place for intellectuals. You are not a skilled debater. Go ahead with your vulgar ad hominem attacks again, since that appears to be your only armor. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
there you go talking shit again. I'm doing drugs now, eh? why don't you do your own research for once? If you think someone can be deported without an ICE hearing you're clueless. But if it makes you happy, go with it. have you ever been to court or dealt with USCIS? wait. do you know what USCIS even is? Life is not a ball game or a sitcom with trump reading the punch lines. He even said that he'd 'let the good ones back in.' You probably don't even know he has said that. Like i said listen to the 20 year old white nationalists, they apparently study this stuff more than you. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
why don't you post what you know about the immigration and deportation process?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Remember Operation Wetback -- and that a government will do whatever a sufficiently enraged population wants it to. There's a 1 in 10,000 this country will get that mad -- virtually sure never to happen in the TV and fluoride age, bt theoretically possible. The establishment lives in mortal dread of such an uprising -- that's the interesting part. See? I just got lured into this endless, circular dustup again too, supporting both sides in the wacko "People who curse a lot have better vocabularies than those who don't, study finds" tradition!
Wow, I hit a nerve I see. I honestly had no idea you were an open border freak, but I should have known given your religious proclivity. The Catholic Church has been nothing short of disgusting when it comes to illegals, but you know this. Incidentally, for someone who loves to take deep bows for your anti govt. positions you sure are compliant when it comes to the open invasion of our nation. So yeah, illegal aliens in our prison system can be deported and it won't involve impossible judicial hurdles like you & fellow Illegal Lovers like to present. I never said ICE wouldn't be involved I simply challenged your assertion that any administrative hearing would be so cumbersome as to be impossible. If you care to go deeper into the subject research Operation Wetback for a legal prescient. I'm sure the ACLU, and other left-wing affiliates are still smarting over the removal of 1.5 million no count Mexicans, but Eisenhower was decisive & resolved the issue satisfactorily. There you go again, just as predicted. You have very little self cotnrol, always attacking the person when youc can't win an argument. I just posted a brand new thread which should explain to you how the system works, Just because I know how the system works, does not mean i am for open borders. I'm just not so ignorant as to believe that illegal aliens are "magically put on some bus and driven to TJ" as soon as a cop or border agent picks them up. That's not how it works. Comprende? The article explains that appeals courts on the east and west coast just ruled on this in October. They point out that it does indeed drag out for years., just like I told you before. When someone is scheduled for an immigration hearing they have a right to bond every 6 months, and these things DRAG OUT FOR YEARS., if the person wants them to. I also posted the actual church teaching on immigration from the CCC. It actually says that nations have a right to secure their borders and kick out illegals. But alas you probably didn't bother reading the actual CCC either because you have your preconceived beliefs to the contrary. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
We have all the necessary immigration
laws already in place, they simply aren't being followed. As to the 9th Circuit
ruling (the most liberal Circuit in the nation), a president with conviction
would ignore it, boot illegal prisoners out of the country and let the thugs in
black robes piss their pants while they kick it up to the Supremes. If Trump did
that the nation (save for the leftist loons/Libertarians) would cheer. Crippling
rulings like this can't be ignored you say? They can and are and have been by
every past president in my lifetime. All Trump would have to do is ink an EO
declaring a national emergency (how about bankruptcy since we're technically in
default) and launch Operation Boot the Bastards. It's way past time we stopped
being tied up in knots by politically connected lawyers posing as justices. To what end? I have no need nor desire to impress anyone, that is childs play.
We need a new thread to keep this going. How about "People who don't know algebra are better at math than people who do, study finds" ?
702 views and rising........
well finally a normal reply without name calling, great job JT. You say we already have laws in place, and you're right. No.1 law being ignored is that they let illegals swarm in. If your theory is that trump would ignore the long-held & practiced convoluted , dragged-out process of deportation hearings, I think that is pretty far-fetched. Remember, Trump is the guy who not even 90 days ago said that the USA needs to let more muslim refugee immigrants swarm in from Syria. I posted about 5 links just above documenting his insane open-border words, including a link from your favorite site, breitbart! He then flipped 180 27 days later, and said he'd kick the ones he let in, out. Anyone discerning who listens to what this clown says can see it is completely contradictory silliness. You claim I'm an 'open border freak'? Yeah im friends with jim gilcrhsit and barb coe and terry anderson and sonny sardo and im for open borders, JT. do you know how stupid that sounds? I'm not the one who said we need to let muslims from syria swarm in here, your hero Trump said that stupid shit. Got it??? That's what I mean by MINDLESS. This place is absolutely mindless. BTW this deportation hearing process wasn't established 2 months ago with those east and west coat rulings- it's been there for YEARS. all those rulings did was allow MULTIPLE bail hearings every six months.) If you think trump will go in there and turn the whole thing on its head, that is very hopeful on your part but I'd say naive thinking. I would actually like for him to explain in detail how he plans to pull this off, instead of talking in vague sound bytes. The fact is that you trust politicians way more than i do. This guy's policy position record does not prove him trustworthy. Now I just got at least a dozen new posters for this place yesterday, maybe more. Because i get things done. As far as i know there probably would have been many more, if it wasn't for all these personal attacks you've been rampaging the past few days. Unless you're trying to sabotage christine's forum why don't you stop acting like a venemous _____ and scaring all the new people off. Unless you want this place to remain just the ten regular posters and watch them die off of old age one by one until it's just me and titorite. and remember, they're coming from the DAILY PAUL, that is a RON PAUL site, and they probably don't support Trump. Get the ____ OVER IT. You make it VERY DIFFICULT for me to be charitable. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I'm not the one who said we need to let muslims from syria swarm in here, your hero Trump said that stupid shit. Got it??? That's what I mean by MINDLESS. This place is absolutely mindless. If you think trump will go in there and turn the whole thing on its head, that is very hopeful on your part but I'd say naive thinking. Now I just got at least a dozen new posters for this place yesterday, maybe more. Because i get things done. Let's put your carping about Trump's Syrian refugee comment to rest. One day after making an off handed comment to a reporter he walked it back Washington (CNN)—A day after saying the U.S. should accept more Syrian refugees, Donald Trump seemed to back track on the idea Wednesday He now correctly calls it a Trojan Horse and is suggesting formal registration for Muslims entering the country. Where that goes, who knows, but he began a national conversation that is important to our safety. Nothing is going to be turned on it's head politically should Trump win (and stop with the snarky BS, he isn't my hero), at least immediately, but it's campaign promises like this than make him the most unique campaign figure since George Wallace . Anyone else saying this? And as far as you getting things done, I've told you more than a year ago in PM that I see you accomplishing two things with your activism, 1) you'll get arrested and 2) you will blow your marriage to hell. I hope neither happens but I'm an excellent judge of character and in you I see someone with an inflated sense of self coupled with a tinge of mania. FYI, Coe died in 2013, and she was a friend of the radio show I did. She was no friend of the pederast Cardinal Mahony, the epitome of an open border freak. Glenn Spencer supports Trump https://twitter.com/glennspencer8/status/663487898348490752 You make it VERY DIFFICULT for me to be charitable. So I should be anything but myself? Did you pitch Freedom4um to these folks or "Artisan's Musings"? And go to you know where with your charity. The day I'd need it from you is the day I hope I'm 6' under. Trump changed his mind the next day after saying that we need to let syrians swarm in because it's humanitarian?? Once again, complete bullshit. He waited a month to flip his 180, I even posted the links for you. It was widely reported in the press internationally long before he changed his position. Second: You want to talk about 'mania'? look in the mirror. You're the one who becomes unhinged at a moments notice over petty political topics, and uses people's personal information which they have either confided in you as a friend, to find their identities to post links to their real names as you did this week, and as you did with your supposed friend last year. You're the one who acts very nasty, vindictive, unstable, and immature. As far as my writing and activism, you're the one who has praised it for years, so good try but fail in back-peddling now. Now all of the sudden I am nothing but a sensationalist, according to you., because i don't like your clown candidate. You turn on people on a dime like a rabid pit bull. That's a shame for you, and for anyone who trusts you. as far as being 6 feet under, our imminent death is a good thing to always keep in mind, since any one of us could die at any second. I'm going to confession and Mass this afternoon with my wife, how about you? "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Glenn Spencer supports Trump https://twitter.com/glennspencer8/status/663487898348490752 Yes, Barb Coe would most certainly support Trump if he was running. This is illustrated by the controversy about the REAL ID ACT when it was proposed. There was quite the controversy about the REAL ID Act among the crowd at CCIR in garden grove. Ron Paul came out strongly against REAL ID, as well as Alex Jones, and anyone else who was opposing Bush's tyranny at the time. COe, spencer, terry anderson, etc, on the other hand, thought that real id was the magic pill that would effectively fight against illegals. Terry and Barbara both acknowledged the valid concerns about REAL ID, because they did have libertarian and anti-tyranny sympathies, but they were convinced that the benefits of the REAL ID legislation outweighed the risks. People had sincere and principled, ideological differences about that issue. Likewise, in a similar way, they would have these same differences about trump as the alleged magic candidate who's gonna "boot out all the illegals." For example, Ron Paul said yesterday that Trump is a complete fraud and an establishment candidate. He is right. One can claim that ron's saying that only because his son is running, but that isn't backed up by evidence. Spencer, he is a zionist. just like jim gilchrist and tom tancredo, two pro-border people who on foreign policy slather up to isreal and are both rabid fundie protestant zionists. Spencer kicked an RBN host off his ranch when the man brought up 9/11 truth to Spencer many years ago. Which is certainly his right, it just reveals their true mindset. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
in reality its quite comical that in retrospect, the REAL ID act, which was signed into law, did nothing whatsoever to stop illegals from swarming in and staying by the millions, and had no detrimental or noticable effect on civil liberties, at least not yet. (although just this month there came out news stories about how certain people will not be able to fly domestically in certain states with driver licenses as id since those states opted out of real id.) "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Do you know why they allow the illegals to stay? Because they are a cheap source of labor. They will never boot them out, and neither would Trump if he were in the Oval Office. The corporations run the country, and the U.S. itself is a corporation according to the Act of 1871. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
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#4. To: StraitGate, neoconsnailed (#3)
It's not surprising that a foul mouthed snarky smart aleck would try to justify his own verbal depravity by citing this "study" that supposedly proves that having some prowess employing crude insults derived from scatology and copulation correlates positively with lexical breadth and ability.
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freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...tNum=186132&Disp=125#C125
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Passenger 2: "Fuck"
1: "Fucking ass, man"
2: "Sheeit"
1: "muthafuck"
2: "sheeit"
1: "ass, man"
2: "sheeit"
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
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it's nothing new. glenn spencer, barb coe, terry anderson, jim
gilcrhist, etc al covered that ad nauseum for decades, by the way where was
trump during all of that????
#10. To: Cynicom (#5)
Some 4um denizens must have extensive vocabularies.
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I was so sweet and innocent prior to joining. Look at me now.
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We're not talking news but rather ambush journalism that, in the end, adds nothing to the alarming national debate we’re in.
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I don't recognize this place from just 10 days ago.
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It may interest you to know you're demoralizing the moderator.
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Congratulations, you've pushed the BS one post farther. WOW, almost 150 views on this garbage while numerous real news threads in 4um die of neglect! Such valorous keyboard kommandos we have.
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Does this further abuse means there are further going to be no answers to my questions?
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HERE
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Well will one of you dishing out all this spite explain what a discussion forum's for? Obviously the sharing of valuable information and building the freedom movement. Where does attacking fellow participants enter in? This is something new over that past week -- well, it's been a while. It's SICK. It wasn't there before, now it's everywhere.
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I'm not quite ready to promote Trump,
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#58. To: Artisan (#51)
The good thing is, posting or reading stuff on the internet is probably the least important thing anyone does.
#59. To: NeoconsNailed (#57)
If they're veterans, as a matter of fact they do. Want to sign up for the next tax court seminar?
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#62. To: NeoconsNailed (#61)
Well, spend the rest of the year on your new shiny new Hate NN project
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cussing screamingly funny
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"F YOU!"
#79. To: Dakmar (#69)
I jumped the shark when I saw the first instance of trans-eponymous miscommunicated threads.
#80. To: Tatarewicz (#78)
"F YOU!" Has shock value and stops the one bugging you
#81. To: Artisan (#4)
this comes from someone who understands that repression of emotions and/or thoughts, and fear of expressing them, is very unhealthy and disfunctional.
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#83. To: Cynicom (#35)
So why doesnt 4um start promoting Trump?
#84. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#83)
Not that he can "make America great again". He can't.
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#86. To: StraitGate (#81)
this comes from someone who understands that repression of emotions and/or thoughts, and fear of expressing them, is very unhealthy and disfunctional.
#87. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#83)
I can't think of any good reason not to support him.
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but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit.
#91. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#90)
but i simply point out he is a complete jew toady, always has been, he admits it, who says a lot of evil neocon shit.
Donald Trump Endorsement for Prime Minister Netanyahu
Published on Jan 15, 2013 - In an unprecedented move, the U.S. billionaire and world-renowned entrepreneur, Mr. Donald Trump, took part in a video showing his support for the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu and The Likud Party in general elections in Israel next week: "Vote for Benjamin, terrific guy, terrific leader, great for Israel."
In the month of May 2008, on the Reuters and Nasdaq screens (next to the police station) are showing clips of Hollywood stars greeting "Happy Birthday" to the 60th Anniversary of the state of Israel.
Celebrities posing with Jewish Chabad "orthodox" fanatics, wearing kippahs, posing with Israeli War Criminals...
"The only [candidate] that's going to give real support to Israel is me," said the 69-year-old Trump. "The rest of them are all talk, no action. They're politicians. I've been loyal to Israel from the day I was born. My father, Fred Trump, was loyal to Israel before me. The only one that's going to give Israel the kind of support it needs is Donald Trump."
This week, it was reported: Donald Trump says he'd send back Syrian refugees taken in by the US
Silly Man Believes government is his 'suggar daddy', cries "Trump's gonna take care uh da people! Take care uh da babies! White liddle babies, black liddle babies!"
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Donald Trump Vows To 'Protect Israel' In First Campaign Radio Ad
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#95. To: NeoconsNailed (#94)
vote for "none of the above". It's far from perfect but gives me a cleaner conscience.
#96. To: NeoconsNailed (#76)
How did you get that out of it?
#97. To: Artisan (#87)
people are mesmerized by these MFing actor politicians like 7th grade schoolgirls. I would expect more from a caliber of 4um,. it is a bit too much.
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Given that we're either going to get Jeb or Hillary if Trump weren't in the race
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every one of these '11 million' which is actually more like 25 million or more, would be legally entitled to a lengthy and convoluted immigration hearing, with appeals, etc. This is assuming the govt could find them.
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Read this, or try to, anyway. I had to quit reading it after a few sentences, it was that annoying
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#112. To: Jethro Tull (#102)
The good news about your rants is that they're contained to an audience of a few dozen,
#113. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
Says who? Obama?
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Wow, I hit a nerve I see. I honestly had no idea you were an open border freak, but I should have known given your religious proclivity. The Catholic Church has been nothing short of disgusting when it comes to illegals, but you know this. Incidentally, for someone who loves to take deep bows for your anti govt. positions you sure are compliant when it comes to the open invasion of our nation.
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#119. To: Artisan (#114)
why don't you post what you know about the immigration and deportation process?
#120. To: NeoconsNailed (#115)
See? I just got lured into this endless, circular dustup again too, supporting both sides in the wacko "People who curse a lot have better vocabularies than those who don't, study finds" tradition!
#121. To: StraitGate (#120)
#122. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
#123. To: Artisan (#122)
#124. To: Artisan (#123)
Had Coe lived, her comments below sound like she'd be a Trump supporter, as Glenn Spencer is.
#125. To: Artisan (#122)
and remember, they're coming from the DAILY PAUL, that is a RON PAUL site, and they probably don't support Trump. Get the ____ OVER IT.
#126. To: Jethro Tull (#125)
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#127. To: Jethro Tull (#124)
Had Coe lived, her comments below sound like she'd be a Trump supporter, as Glenn Spencer is.
#128. To: All (#127)
#129. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
launch Operation Boot the Bastards
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