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Title: Hilarious Blacksmith Uses Science To Shut Down Insane ‘Fire Can’t Melt Steel’ 9/11 Truthers
Source: The Federalist/Liberty's flame
URL Source: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=43753&Disp=All
Published: Dec 19, 2015
Author: Some idiot on the internets
Post Date: 2015-12-22 15:07:46 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 4192
Comments: 37

Give this man a medal. In just two minutes, blacksmith Trenton Tye of Purgatory Ironworks uses science to hilarious effect to mock 9/11 truthers who insist the 2001 terrorist attacks were a conspiracy. And why are these nutters convinced the whole thing was an inside job? Because fire can’t melt steel (Seriously, read through that entire 9/11 conspiracy theory thread. It is amazing.)

Tye, a professional metalworker based in Georgia, has had enough. He filmed the following video to prove to science-hating 9/11 conspiracy mongers once and for all that structural steel will absolutely lose its structural integrity if it gets too hot:

“So I am taking time out of my busy day to try to put to rest one of the more moronic things I have seen on the Internet lately, and that’s saying something,” Tye tells the camera. “‘Jet fuel only burns at 1,500 degrees and since steel melts at 2,700 degrees, 9/11 was a conspiracy!'”

“What I am upset about is the retarded metallurgical things that you guys are saying. I’m not arguing the facts,” Tye says. “Jet fuel does in fact burn at 1,500 degrees. Some carbon steels will start melting at 2,300 degrees. But if you hold this up as a reason for conspiracy, you are an idiot!”

To prove his point, Tye compared the structural strength of a room-temperature piece of steel to the strength of one that had been heated to 1,800 degrees in his workshop’s furnace.

“It’s very hot, but not melted,” Tye notes by tapping the piece of steel on an anvil.

“Half-inch solid steel. Check it out,” Tye says as he bends the solid steel rod back and forth using only his pinkie finger. “It’s a freakin’ noodle!”

“Your argument is invalid. Get over it!” Tye exclaims as he drops the mic by dropping the glowing steel rod. “Find a job!”

We salute you, Trenton Tye. You are a real American hero. Godspeed.


Poster Comment:

The usual cast of simpletons over at Liberty's Flame are hailing this ass-clown as an "expert" in building construction and structural design and that this video proves once and for all that the Official Narrative is true.

Kevin Ryan has an excellent rebuttal here :

Propaganda Can’t Melt Steel Beams

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#2. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

I've tried to tell the conspironuts here many times fire does not melt steel but it softens it - a lot. That comes from being raised in a steel-mill town.

Turtle  posted on  2015-12-22   15:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

You could live three lifetimes in a steel town, Turtle, and you still wouldn't know squat.

I knew when I opened up this stupid video that the first thing I'd hear would be the draft of the forge burner. That's where you get your 1800°F.

When the aircraft hit the WTC, the jet fuel, basically kerosene, was not oxygenated by a draft. Kerosene, at standard atmospheric pressure, burns with an open flame temperature of around 300°C. That's less than 600°F.

600°F doesn't do shit to steel, particularly in the case of the massive heat sinks constituted by the huge interior support columns that held those structures up.

And as has been pointed out time and again, and is still worth repeating, most of the organic liquid fuel consumed in the break up of the aircraft spilled out and was consumed exterior to the WTC buildings in the fireballs seen from numerous camera angles that day.

randge  posted on  2015-12-22   16:24:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge, Turtle (#3)

And as has been pointed out time and again, and is still worth repeating, most of the organic liquid fuel consumed in the break up of the aircraft spilled out and was consumed exterior to the WTC buildings in the fireballs seen from numerous camera angles that day.

Not only that, but the NIST report points out that the jet fuel was consumed within the first few minutes. Any fires after that would have been simple office fires fed by furniture, papers, and office equipment.

Certainly nowhere close to the amount of heat necessary to soften steel.

Even IF the entire floor underneath the damaged upper structure simply vanished into thin air, the complete collapse of the UNDAMAGED lower structure was impossible for it have happened without the use of controlled explosives. And even IF the drop of the upper structure by the space of several floors below would have occurred, there is NO possible way for the complete collapse to have occurred in roughly the same amount of time as if there was NOTHING underneath the upper structure at all (ie. it would not have collapsed at free fall speed, nor anywhere CLOSE to it).

FormerLurker  posted on  2015-12-22   17:38:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#12) (Edited)

Not only that

Thank you Lurker.

"Not only that," but just boatloads besides attached to every aspect of what happened that day. The anomalies found with respect to the persons involved, the targets in questions with each and every event are endless and beg the attention of all but the pathologically incurious.

The latter category includes most of our fellow "citizens."

They are living in the country that they deserve.

randge  posted on  2015-12-22   18:31:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: randge (#19)

pathologically incurious

Perfect.

Lod  posted on  2015-12-22 18:50:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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